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Post by Justice4all Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:29 pm

Susan has been missing for over two years. Why were the social workers and and judge just finding out about the disgusting images found on Josh's computer back in 2009, and why wasn't the comforter with the blood stain in Josh's storage unit found until last week? The system failed Susan and the boys big time.

I feel really bad for Chuck and Judy. They've had to endure more heartache in the last two years than most people endure in a lifetime.
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Post by Wisteria Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:35 am

In one of the many articles I've perused in the last day, one makes said that the Powells gave the media copies of some pages of Susan's journals. I've never seen any content of the journals in print and assumed this was a piece of bad fact checking on the part of the news gatherer.

Has any excerpts ever been published?

Quite frankly I have a hard time believing that the journals would actually contain the type of information that the Powells claimed and have wondered if they might have been concocting forgeries to support there version of reality.

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Post by Justice4all Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:18 am

Some copies of Susan's journal entries were released to the media, but from the articles I read, most news organizations decided not to publish detailed information from the entries. Less than a week after they were released, a search warrant was executed and Susan's journal was seized. Chuck and Judy Cox were then successful in obtaining a temporary restraining order which ordered the Powells to cease releasing any of Susan's journal entries and ordered them to remove any entries they published on SusanPowell.org or any other site.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Family-releases-Susan-Powells-journals/8j-E2UwtC06kyCHi2qUwyw.cspx

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/128492198.html
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Post by khintx Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:00 am

Justice4all wrote:Susan has been missing for over two years. Why were the social workers and and judge just finding out about the disgusting images found on Josh's computer back in 2009, and why wasn't the comforter with the blood stain in Josh's storage unit found until last week? The system failed Susan and the boys big time.

I feel really bad for Chuck and Judy. They've had to endure more heartache in the last two years than most people endure in a lifetime.

I don't understand why/how this happened. Seems like a whole bunch of folks/agencies dropped the ball. Susan and her children paid with their lives. I don't know how Judy and Chuck are coping. The more I hear, the more disgusted I feel. How could this happen?

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PS: I do not in anyway blame the Social Worker. She did everything she could and is another victim of the Powell's evil- Josh was evil and came from evil.
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Post by khintx Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:02 am

PS: I find it infuriating and insulting that Susan's disappearance is being classified as a murder now. Now? Really? Why not two years ago??? One year ago??? Six months ago??? Three months ago? Two? One? It's like when the CPS in Fla released their findings on Caylee three years after her murder and after the trial was over. Why bother?

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Post by Julie Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:18 am

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PS: I do not in anyway blame the Social Worker. She did everything she could and is another victim of the Powell's evil- Josh was evil and came from evil.

I agree. She held it together pretty well, I think, esp while talking to that 911 operator. At one point when there was a long silence she asked him if he was still there and he said something like Yeah, I'm just still waiting for you to tell me the address. He annoyed me.

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Post by Julie Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:19 am

khintx wrote:PS: I find it infuriating and insulting that Susan's disappearance is being classified as a murder now. Now? Really? Why not two years ago??? One year ago??? Six months ago??? Three months ago? Two? One? It's like when the CPS in Fla released their findings on Caylee three years after her murder and after the trial was over. Why bother?

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I agree, but maybe there was something in the sister's confiscated emails from him alluding to murder?
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Post by khintx Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:35 am

Link for the Funeral streaming

www.life-center.org

11 a.m pst 2 p.m est
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:14 pm


RE: Charlie and Branden Powell Obituary - View/SignGuest Book - WA


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http://www.faofwa.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1389639&fh_id=10210
Curnow Funeral Home Sumner, WA

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The funeral begins at 11 a.m. at Life Center Church, 1717 S. Union Ave. Tacoma.

Watch coverage beginning at 10:30 a.m. Pacific time on KIRO 7's digital channel, 7.2 -- on Comcast channel 117 -- on kirotv.com or watch live on KING5.com Saturday at 11 am.
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:24 pm

khintx wrote:Link for the Funeral streaming

www.life-center.org

11 a.m pst 2 p.m est

Thanks for the Link, khintx. I posted it on The Hinky Meter - Developing Stories
(THM: See Ann-Tx Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:12 am). Hope you don't mind.:
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Live Stream of the Powell boys' funeral - 11 a.m. PST/ 2 p.m. EST

khintx posted the following Link on Susan Powell's thread at Reality Chatter:

www.life-center.org
LifeCenter.org
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Post by Sherry Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:36 pm

I am getting an error with the link to the live stream.
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:37 pm

RE: Powell boys' funeral service coverage - WA

You can click on within the article. Coverage time starts at 10:30 a.m. PST/ 1:30 p.m. EST
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http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/funeral-coverage-braden-and-charlie-powell-begins-/nHZsx/
KIRO - Seattle, WA 2-11-12

Funeral coverage for Charlie and Braden Powell begins at 10:30 a.m.


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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:41 pm

Sherry wrote:I am getting an error with the link to the live stream.
Sherry, I clicked on it earlier and it was fine. There was a beautiful picture of Susan and the boys in a blue background.

I just clicked on it now and got "error" page. Maybe tons of folks are clicking on it.

KING5 and KIRO (Seattle TV stations) will be streaming live also. KIRO starts their funeral coverage at 10:30 a.m. PST and KING5 starts their coverage at 11 a.m PST per their article posted up-thread.
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Post by Sherry Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:47 pm

Thanks, Ann-Tx~
I will try again.
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:36 pm


View the Powell boys' Memorial Service Program here (Scroll down):


http://www.scribd.com/doc/81218910/Charlie-and-Braden-Powell-Memorial-Service-Program
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In Loving Memory Of

Charlie Powell 2005 - 2012

Braden Powell 2007 - 2012
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Post by Piper Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:40 pm

Live stream outside of the Life Center:

http://www.kirotv.com/videos/news/live-event-from-kiro-7-eyewitness-news/vC4c3/
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Post by Piper Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:44 pm

Life Center link again: They are talking now....

http://lifecentertacoma.com/livebroadcast/?parentnavigationid=10091
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:47 pm

KIRO streaming LIVE now. Direct Link:

http://www.kirotv.com/videos/news/watch-live-broadcast-now/vCyCN/
KIRO - WA Live Stream - Powell
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:48 pm

Piper, great minds think alike! lol

I see you posted the Direct Link upthread.
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:56 pm

Here is the Direct Link from KING5 of their Live Stream of the Powell boys' memorial service which they will start streaming at 11 a.m. PST/ 2 p.m. EST:

http://www.king5.com/live-stream/pop-up-ads/Watch-live-now-116248999.html
KING5 - Live Stream video - Powell

Service is about 6 minutes away from starting!
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Post by Sherry Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:59 pm

It was beautiful. Do children know that when they sing at a child's funeral it makes grown-ups all the more teary-eyed? Sad
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Post by Ann - Tx Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:41 pm

The funeral service for Charlie and Branden Powell was beautiful!

It brought tears to my eyes to see the Children's Choir sing. They did a beautiful job!

May Charlie and Branden rest in peace in the loving arms of their mother, Susan Powell,
with their heavenly Father.


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Post by Wisteria Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:06 pm

All I heard at the time was that the Powells wanted to publish the journals on their web site, not that they had actually released any pages. I was under the impression at the time that publishing the journal was an effort to show that Susan was a promiscuous girl in her youth and therefore likely to run off with another man. If they wished to publish them because she was suicidal in her youth, well who wasn't at some point? Josh tried to hang himself, which is probably more than Susan articulating she wanted to die (let's face it, it's a common expression, not to be taken literally as an utterance)

I guess the media decision not to publish the entries released was fairly widespread, since it was news to me that they had them at all.

At the time of the search of the Powell home I remember the journals were one of the things seized.

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Post by Wisteria Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:08 pm

Has anyone come across a link for the funeral online? I wasn't home and couldn't watch and have been looking for it.

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Post by Ann - Tx Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:56 am


RE: Video of the Charlie & Branden Powell Funeral Service - WA

If you were not able to watch the Live Stream of the funeral service, you can watch it here:
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http://www.kirotv.com/videos/news/memorial-service-held-for-charlie-and-braden/vF3tz/
KIRO Seattle, WA 2-11-12

VIDEO (50:45): Memorial service held for Charlie and Braden Powell
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http://www.prod.kirotv.com/videos/news/video-remembrance-for-charlie-and-braden-powell/vF3tm/
KIRO Seattle, WA 2-11-12

Video remembrance for Charlie and Braden Powell (5:05)
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http://www.kirotv.com/gallery/news/slideshow-images-memorial-service-powell-boys/gP2R/#1140829
KIRO Seattle, WA 2-11-12

Slideshow: Images from memorial service for Powell boys
Powell boys memorial service
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http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/hundreds-gather-remember-charlie-and-braden-powell/nHZ2n/
KIRO Seattle, WA 2-11-12

Hundreds gather to remember Charlie and Braden Powell
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Post by Wisteria Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:31 pm

KSTU just reported that searchers at the recycling facility JP was believed to have visited found a map of the state of Utah and books bearing the names of Josh and Susan Powell. The web site doesn't have a link to this portion of the story yet.

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Post by Wisteria Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:44 am

I wonder if there is any way to get the susanpowell.org site closed down. An article I was reading made reference to it, so I checked to see if it is still up. Pure Powell propaganda.

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Post by Wisteria Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:16 am

Some sick bastard has set up a fan page on Facebook for Josh Powell. Totally sick!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Josh-Powell-is-a-hero/215054475257169?sk=wall&filter=1

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Post by Wisteria Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:16 am

Please go to the above facebook page and report it for hate speech and encourage others to do so too.

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Post by khintx Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:48 pm

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16942946/josh-powells-family-wants-burial-near-slain-boys

These people have no boundaries, no shame, and no sense of compassion! What next????!!!! kh

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Josh Powell's family wants burial near slain boys

[snipped]..........Josh Powell's surviving relatives want him buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he killed, the city manager in Puyallup said Wednesday.

Powell's relatives visited the public Woodbine Cemetery and selected a plot about 25 feet from the boys, City Manager Ralph Dannenberg told The Associated Press. They haven't paid for it yet, and any sale is being put on hold because the parents of Powell's missing wife have promised legal action. [snipped]



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Post by khintx Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:50 pm

KIROTVPierceCo KIRO TV Pierce Co
#CityofPuyallup says that unless a judge blocks #joshpowell burial, they will have no choice in allowing his burial near boys.
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Post by Wisteria Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:07 pm

City of Puyallup > Cemetery
www.cityofpuyallup.org › Services
Woodbine Cemetery. 2323 9th Street SW Puyallup, WA 98373. Phone: 253-841-5459. Contact Woodbine Cemetery. The cemetery office is open by appointment ...
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I have phone the cemetery and expressed concerned over desecration of the grave and that this is a problem they do not want happening. Criminals do it to their victims. An outraged public is likely do to likewise.

The cemetery may not be able to refuse him being located elsewhere in the cemetery, but that's still reprehensible.

The cemetery may be unable to refuse burial under ordinary circumstances, but they will not wish to be a magnet for all sorts of filth and people urinating on the grave.

Please phone as a concerned person about the potential problems JP's interment may cause.

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Post by khintx Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:51 pm

THANK YOU CRIMESTOPPERS! THANK YOU SHERIFF PASTOR AND DETECTIVE TROYER!

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Pierce County Sheriff Paul Pastor and Detective Ed Troyer, who heads the anti-crime organization Crimestoppers of Tacoma-Pierce County, responded by buying the two plots on either side of the boys to make sure Josh Powell didn't wind up there. The cost is being paid by Crimestoppers, other organizations and private donations.

also from the link:
Crimestoppers would allow Susan Powell's family to use the plots as they saw fit, and if Crimestoppers raises money beyond the cost of the plots, any extra could be spent on memorials.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/j...-boys-15640919
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Post by Julie Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:52 pm

kh - I just saw that news, I was about to post it, isn't it great!!!!! bounce
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Post by khintx Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:28 pm

It's the best news I've heard in a long time, Jules!
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Post by sitemama Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:32 pm

But, can they still get the plot they were interested in, the one 25 feet from the boys? This cemetary is only interested in the money they are going to get, not the least bit interested in these two precious boys and the Cox family.
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Post by khintx Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:35 pm

sitemama wrote:But, can they still get the plot they were interested in, the one 25 feet from the boys? This cemetary is only interested in the money they are going to get, not the least bit interested in these two precious boys and the Cox family.

Actually, if I am understanding this correctly, it is a City cemetary and they cannot turn folks away. That is the issue. They are bound by their bylaws and city ordinances and so forth. This is not a private or a church cemetery.

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Post by Wisteria Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:52 pm

But they may decide that his grave will be a liability. Call the cemetery and tell them you have concerns about desecration of the grave and that it will be a magnet for trash and trouble. The proper legal term is an attractive nuisance.

The Coxes don't deserve this, nor do those whose loved ones graves would surround JP's.

JP in one of his last emails said he wanted his aunt and uncle in Texas to bury him. Texas is far enough removed he could be buried anonymously.

Perhaps the Cox family should sue the estate of Josh Powell for wrongful death and in doing so get custody of the body to do with as they see fit. If JP's family contend Susan is still alive, then she is next of kin and has the right to the body.

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Post by sitemama Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:00 am

Wisteria said:

[quote]JP in one of his last emails said he wanted his aunt and uncle in Texas to bury him. Texas is far enough removed he could be buried anonymously.[u]

I think that is a good idea, lets send him to Ann and KH in TX and let them dispose of him.
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Post by khintx Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:51 am

Gee, thanks mama.
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Post by Wisteria Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:07 pm

PUYALLUP, Wash — Josh Powell's family has reportedly decided not to bury him in the same cemetery as his two young sons whom he murdered.

Kirk Graves, the husband of Josh Powell's sister Jennifer Graves, said he expected to receive a statement from Josh Powell's mother, Terri Powell, on Thursday saying the family was no longer going to pursue purchasing a burial plot in the Woodbine Cemetery in Puyallup, Wash.

That was also confirmed Thursday by the attorney for Chuck and Judy Cox, Steve Downing.

"They are backing down, and Josh will not be buried there," he said.

Terri Powell released a statement to the media early Thursday afternoon which read:

"We have tried so hard to be loving and considerate and respectful in making Josh's burial arrangements. We love our little Charlie and Braden and want their resting place to be a place of peace and comfort. We have made the determination that Josh will not be buried at Woodbine Cemetery, but are in the process of making other arrangements. Thank you to all who have so lovingly supported us in this time of inexpressible anguish. Our hearts go out to all of you who - like us - are reeling with shock and grief."

Wednesday, controversy erupted when it was learned that Josh Powell's sister, Alina Powell, and his mother had visited the cemetery and expressed interest in buying a burial plot next to Charlie and Braden Powell, who were killed on Feb. 5, just minutes after they were taken to their father's Graham, Wash., home for a supervised visit.

The plan immediately sparked angry reactions from friends and family of Susan Cox Powell, as well as the Pierce County Sheriff's Office, which used words like "disgusting" to describe the situation. Late Wednesday afternoon, Crime Stoppers of Tacoma and Pierce counties in Washington purchased the burial plots on both sides of the grave for $4,000 to prevent Josh Powell from having his final resting place next to his victims.

"We know that Susan is together with Charlie and Braden, they are now safe from all the trials they would have endured in this life. Everyone wanted to do more for them, but they couldn't be in a better place then in heaven. Once again Satan's plans are defeated by the atonement of our savior. We will find Susan."

Thursday morning, Chuck Cox posted a short message on the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page: "We are so thankful for all the support. Your response has been amazing. We will continue to fight and we will find Susan. No one is giving up."

He followed that up an hour later with another message.

"We know that Susan is together with Charlie and Braden, they are now safe from all the trials they would have endured in this life. Everyone wanted to do more for them, but they couldn't be in a better place then in heaven. Once again Satan's plans are defeated by the atonement of our Savior. We will find Susan."

Graves said it was his understanding that the Powell family had possession of Josh Powell's body and that it was at a funeral home in Washington in preparation for whatever plan they come up with. As of Thursday, there had been no funeral for Josh Powell.

Josh Powell has been a key person of interest since his wife disappeared from her West Valley City home in 2009. Susan Powell's family believes she is dead and hopes to bury her body next to her sons when she is found.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=19241483&title=josh-powell-wont-be-buried-in-wash-near-sons-he-killed-&s_cid=featured-1

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Post by Wisteria Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:39 pm

Excerpt:

The Coxes had threatened to move the boys' casket if Josh Powell were interred nearby.
Josh Powell’s relatives had visited the Woodbine Cemetery and initially selected a plot near where 7-year-old Charlie and 5-year-old Braden Powell are buried.

The decision set off a barrage of public anger and prompted two Washington police officers to intervene and buy surrounding plots.

"The bottom line is, Josh Powell will not be near those two boys," Pierce County Sheriff's Sgt. Ed Troyer told Seattle-based radio station KIRO-FM on Wednesday.

Troyer and Sheriff Paul Pastor used their own money and dipped into funds from Crime Stoppers Tacoma-Pierce County to pay for plots two and four at Woodbine Cemetery in Puyallup, Wash.

Pastor told FoxNews.com that it was "a good idea" that Josh Powell's family decided to bury him elsewhere.

"It was completely unacceptable that the killer be buried right next to his victims," he said.

The police officers said they weren’t “too worried” about the nearly $5,000 price tag and encouraged the public to donate to the Crime Stoppers fund. Poster reportedly said he will personally send thank-you notes to anyone who contributes

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/15/josh-powells-family-wants-him-buried-near-sons/#ixzz1maehBEnF

I hadn't thought of moving the boy's grave, but I would probably have done so, if it were me. It's incomprehensible that it would even occur to the Powell clan to bury JP in the same cemetery, let alone leave a grave at all for people to desecrate. With Find a Grave and similar sites, the location would be soon discovered and outraged people would desecrate the grave.

In the Salt Lake City Cemetery there is said to be a grave of an executed murderer (I don't know if this is an urban fold tale or not). It's lore that if you go to the grave at night, walk around it three times and chant something like 'Emo's not dead' that his face will appear in the metal fencing surrounding the grave. It is a popular thing for teens to go searching for Emo's grave and I went once myself with a date (never found the grave). I heard some time later that the cemetery removed everything marking the grave so that it wouldn't attract curiosity seekers.

Cremation makes so much more sense, under the circumstances.

Personally I think the cemetery told the family they could not accept JP for burial because of the attractive nuisance it would create. I don't think the Powells made the decision. They have proven to be a singularly stubborn lot and would fight to the end of time to get their way, no matter who it hurt of how foolish the action. JP's act was the ultimate example of this.

Wow! And people are trashing the police for their handling of the parallel cases. I hope someday the evidence is released so that the public will stop thinking they dropped the ball.

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Post by Wisteria Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:15 pm

Article detailing the filth Josh was instilling in the boys:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53537666-78/powell-charlie-documents-sons.html.csp

I had no idea it was this bad, though I'm not surprised.

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Post by Julie Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:32 pm

Thanks for the links Wisteria.

I had no idea it was that bad either.
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Post by Wisteria Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:29 am

Josh Powell's confidential psychological evaluation includes images of adult on children sex

Updated: 7:23 pm | Published: 6:06 pm
Reported by: Don Hudson

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SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - ABC 4 News has obtained Josh Powell's last and very disturbing psychological evaluation. I want to warn you - before you read on - this is adult themed, graphic in nature and will most likely make you angry, sick and possibly offended.

Dr. James Manley with Pacific Psychology Services in Tacoma, Washington wrote the confidential psychological review. As part of that review he was to look at "approximately 400 images" that were found on Josh Powell's computers. Many were cartoon characters we all know, but what they were doing was nothing to laugh at.

The images included characters from The Simpsons, The Flintstones, Jungle Book, Superman, The Rugrats, Cat Woman and Spongebob - just to name a few. The characters were shown in sexual activities like sodomy, fisting, incest and group sex. Many of the images depicted adult on children sex acts. Dr. Manley called Josh's possession and approval of the images "concerning."

A few images included captions. One between a girl and a man reads, "Come on Daddy, come on, let me finish what I started." And another between a mother and a son says, "Mommy it feels good." Dr. Manley says the "collection of images" suggests Josh has "a high degree of interest" in this type of activity.

Dr. Manley goes on to say, "While the drawings may not be illegal, per se, they were very suggestive of a global approval of sex between an adult and a minor." And he wrapped up his review by saying, "...the reviewed images indicate someone's fantasy-laden view of having sex with children. This is not a healthy parenting perception."

Dr. Manely's last paragraph in this evaluation says they need more information about Josh before saying he could provide a stable, nurturing and safe environment for Charlie and Braden. That is why a pyscho-sexual evaluation was ordered. But as we all know now - Josh took his life and the life of his sons before that could happen.

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Post by Wisteria Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:42 am

Very interesting article with details about what the boys were saying.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865550403/Documents-reveal-disturbing-influence-Josh-Powell-had-on-his-children.html?pg=1

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Post by Sherry Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:06 pm

Websleuths has the Coxes on~
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2012/02/20/websleuths-radio?utm_source=BTRemail&utm_medium=ShowReminder
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Post by Wisteria Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:57 pm

Jp was cremated Friday.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-josh-powell-josh-powells-death-certificate-released-by-washington-health-department-20120221,0,7297723.story

A local artist will be making a statue of Susan Powell for a memorial in Magna (another suburb of Salt Lake City north and west of West Valley City).

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53561579-78/powell-memorial-cemetery-susan.html.csp


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Post by sitemama Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:15 am

That is what they should have done with him, he died in fire, returned to ashes in fire, and will burn for eternity in Hell's fire.

RIP JP!

(rest in pergatory)
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Post by khintx Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:59 am

Josh Powell has been cremated.
Death Certificate here:
http://insideedition.com/lib/pdf/7699/death%20cert.pdf
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