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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Thanks for all those interesting links, Sherry. Many were new to me.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
The defense made a calculated preemptive strike and held a press conference to try to promote their spin on information that they know will come out sooner or later (hopefully sooner) in an effort to lessen the impact of the damage this informatoin will do to their clients. Simple as that.
They gave us the information that they wanted us to have yesterday. Information they wanted us to know. It's not the truth. It's not verifiable. It is self-serving. They are not trying to help anyone but themselves/their clients.
I don't know what leads LE are following, but something has made the DT very uncomfortable and it was important enough that they felt the immediate need to treat us all to a free all-you-can-eat buffet of word salad in an attempt to minimize it's effect.
And truth be told, it has kept us busy.
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They gave us the information that they wanted us to have yesterday. Information they wanted us to know. It's not the truth. It's not verifiable. It is self-serving. They are not trying to help anyone but themselves/their clients.
I don't know what leads LE are following, but something has made the DT very uncomfortable and it was important enough that they felt the immediate need to treat us all to a free all-you-can-eat buffet of word salad in an attempt to minimize it's effect.
And truth be told, it has kept us busy.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
kellikat wrote:Thanks for all those interesting links, Sherry. Many were new to me.
You're Welcome!~
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Just unbelievable that there are no leads after this much time. None of the cast of characters appear to be mastermind criminals, but yet they are outsmarting the police so far. It's just so frustrating!
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
This case has been a cluster of a mess...right from the beginning. I fear Baby Lisa is gone forever. This case reminds me of poor little HaLeigh Cummings
Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Yes, i was just thinking of Haleigh today. Another case gone cold with no suspects. Again, one of those lowlifes know what happened and refuse to talk. There oughtta be a law!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrr.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Baby Lisa Iriwin case turns focus on new witness
Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/baby-lisa-iriwin-case-turns-focus-on-new-witness#ixzz1djtpnELe
Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/baby-lisa-iriwin-case-turns-focus-on-new-witness#ixzz1djtpnELe
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
So this guy "Dane" had the phone that night AND he has fallen off the face of the earth? Oh...and LE says he's not a suspect nor a POI. Why hide then? Things that make you go hhhmmmm???
Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Why is it that this case has so many suspicious players who are only interested in covering their own butts.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Missing baby Lisa Irwin mystery phone man says he had phone that got call from Irwin family cell
Posted: 7:48 AM
Last Updated: 6 hours and 29 minutes ago
Russ Ptacek, nbcactionnews.com
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - In his first comments, the Baby Lisa mystery phone man said he has “no connection” to the missing baby, but he and his father acknowledge he did have the phone that received a call from one of the missing Irwin phones.
Police have said he is not a suspect, so we are not identifying him by his last name.
“The truth will rise to the top,” the mystery phone man, Dane said. “I have no connection with Megan Wright or the missing child.”
Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-mystery-phone-man-says-he-had-phone-that-got-call-from-irwin-family-cell
Posted: 7:48 AM
Last Updated: 6 hours and 29 minutes ago
Russ Ptacek, nbcactionnews.com
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - In his first comments, the Baby Lisa mystery phone man said he has “no connection” to the missing baby, but he and his father acknowledge he did have the phone that received a call from one of the missing Irwin phones.
Police have said he is not a suspect, so we are not identifying him by his last name.
“The truth will rise to the top,” the mystery phone man, Dane said. “I have no connection with Megan Wright or the missing child.”
Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-mystery-phone-man-says-he-had-phone-that-got-call-from-irwin-family-cell
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
This case just seems to be getting stranger by the second. In one sense I believe that an accident occurred which Deborah has covered up. But then I also cannot dismiss the sightings of a man carrying a baby and the connection between Jersey and Megan ... which makes me also suspect that Jersey may have snatched Lisa.
And of course with LE being so tight lipped this case is also being pushed forward with lots of speculation. Is Kansas LE always this tight lipped?
And of course with LE being so tight lipped this case is also being pushed forward with lots of speculation. Is Kansas LE always this tight lipped?
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Mommy knows where baby is hidden, but she won't tell.
She knows she won't luck out with a jury like Casey's.
IMO
She knows she won't luck out with a jury like Casey's.
IMO
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Missing Baby Lisa Irwin Case at Three Months; New Lead Found
By William Browning | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Thu, Jan 5, 2012
KCTV out of Kansas City, Mo., reports the lawyers for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin say new leads have been found and are being followed in the case of missing baby Lisa Irwin. One is listed as "promising," even though authorities have said the number of tips has dwindled.
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* The current lead has supposedly been in the works for weeks. Authorities aren't commenting on the new lead, although family members have said they want to talk about the lead to the public. They aren't sure when the baby's parents or their attorneys will discuss the lead.
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http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-case-three-months-lead-003500357.html
By William Browning | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Thu, Jan 5, 2012
KCTV out of Kansas City, Mo., reports the lawyers for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin say new leads have been found and are being followed in the case of missing baby Lisa Irwin. One is listed as "promising," even though authorities have said the number of tips has dwindled.
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* The current lead has supposedly been in the works for weeks. Authorities aren't commenting on the new lead, although family members have said they want to talk about the lead to the public. They aren't sure when the baby's parents or their attorneys will discuss the lead.
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http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-case-three-months-lead-003500357.html
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
For your info, Deb Bradley , Jeremy Irwin and their attorney Joe Tacopino will be guests on the
Dr. Phil Show this Friday, 2-3-12.
Check your local listing for time and channel if you get the Dr. Phil Show in your viewing area.
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http://drphil.com/shows/
Dr. Phil Show - 2-3-12
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Friday - February 3, 2012
Missing in a Moment: Baby Lisa
Ten-month-old baby Lisa disappeared from her home on October 3, 2011 and hasn't been seen since then. Her parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, say Lisa was abducted from her crib that fateful night. In this Dr. Phil exclusive, the distraught couple, joined by their attorney, Joe Tacopina, breaks their three-month silence. Did Deborah, who admits to being drunk the night Lisa went missing, have any involvement in the baby's disappearance? How does she explain reports that she failed a polygraph test? And why have Deborah and Jeremy been accused of being uncooperative? Plus, hear the couples' explanation for their apparent inconsistent recollections about which lights were on in the house and the mysterious phone call reportedly made from Deborah’s cell phone on the night Lisa went missing. Then hear from the private investigator who has been searching for Lisa: where does he think the baby is, and why does he believe she’s still alive? Don't miss this Dr. Phil exclusive.
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Valhall of The Hinky Meter has written numerous articles about the Lisa Irwin case.
The Hinky Meter members are following this case closely and they update the thread(s) as news unfolds in the Lisa Irwin Case. There are numerous Links to mainstream media articles and other sources posted on the thread(s).
You do not have to be a member of The Hinky Meter to read in the Forum.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=60
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Websleuths on the Lisa Irwin Case
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2012/02/20/websleuths-radio?utm_source=BTRemail&utm_medium=ShowReminder
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2012/02/20/websleuths-radio?utm_source=BTRemail&utm_medium=ShowReminder
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Witness in Lisa Irwin case now facing stabbing charge
Updated: Feb 22, 2012 3:26 PM EST
By Chris Oberholtz, Multimedia Producer
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager
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Greathouse became embroiled in the search for Lisa because he had access to a cell phone that has a connection to the case.
Authorities wanted to know whether Greathouse had a phone in question when someone using Bradley's cell phone attempted to call a cell phone owned by Megan Wright at 11:57 p.m. Oct. 3.
Wright said investigators have questioned her four times about a cell phone call made from one of Bradley's cell phones just a few hours before her daughter was reported missing.
Greathouse had access to Wright's phone and police wanted to know if the phone call was intended for him. Greathouse talked to police and reportedly has denied any involvement in Lisa's disappearance.
Read more: http://www.kctv5.com/story/16969868/witness-in-lisa-irwin-case-faces-stabbing-charge
Updated: Feb 22, 2012 3:26 PM EST
By Chris Oberholtz, Multimedia Producer
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager
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Greathouse became embroiled in the search for Lisa because he had access to a cell phone that has a connection to the case.
Authorities wanted to know whether Greathouse had a phone in question when someone using Bradley's cell phone attempted to call a cell phone owned by Megan Wright at 11:57 p.m. Oct. 3.
Wright said investigators have questioned her four times about a cell phone call made from one of Bradley's cell phones just a few hours before her daughter was reported missing.
Greathouse had access to Wright's phone and police wanted to know if the phone call was intended for him. Greathouse talked to police and reportedly has denied any involvement in Lisa's disappearance.
Read more: http://www.kctv5.com/story/16969868/witness-in-lisa-irwin-case-faces-stabbing-charge
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Megyn Kelly@megynkelly
Just taped 2-part i'view w/Baby Lisa's parents. Did someone use her dad's CC on a website that changes baby names?? Tune in 2day 1p on FNC!
Lisa Irwin News for today
Just taped 2-part i'view w/Baby Lisa's parents. Did someone use her dad's CC on a website that changes baby names?? Tune in 2day 1p on FNC!
Lisa Irwin News for today
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Snipped from Stolat's comment on Developing Stories:
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Jeremy Irwin claims that someone stole his debit card one month after Lisa was reported missing. DID ANYONE REMEMBER THIS IMPORTANT DETAIL? This was news to me and more importantly, why is it news to the media? This would have been an important aspect of the search had it been made known (assuming it had been true). Jeremy claims that a charge on his stolen card was made to an overseas site that changes baby names for a fee. What he doesn't add is that it is not a site dedicated to changing only baby names, but people's names in general.
From the article:
During the interview, Ann Curry said an NBC producer looked at the charges on Jeremy Irwin’s credit card, and they appear to lead to a website for a stationery paper company.
“I don’t know why it takes you there now,” Jeremy Irwin responded, “but when we first found out about this in December, that’s where it used to go was the website where you can change someone’s name online.”
Well, I think this is pretty simple to answer -- someone needs to look at Jeremy's computer and review the cache folder for his internet page hits. Stuff will be cached there - icons graphics - anything relating to the page as it appeared when he *allegedly* viewed it and saw what he claims. Someone could be able to tell based on what is cached there if he really saw it as he claims.
Did he take any screenshots when he saw that site??? Did he print off pages from that site?? My guess is no - and conveniently so. But if FBI really wanted to - they could validate this claim. My suspicion is that based on the fact they say it didn't generate any leads tells me there is a very good reason why -- and that this is yet another excuse for them to point the finger at someone else. Hence their complaint:
"Bradley said while she understands the police and FBI have jobs to do, the answers she has received about her daughter are unacceptable. "
Just as her answers and lack of SEARCHING of any kind on her part are unacceptable as well. But such is life when you've returned back to 100%.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-parents-hope-fraudulent-debit-card-charge-leads-to-break-in-case
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http://www.realitychatter.com/t3810p180-developing-stories#140185
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Wow, Stolat, I never heard he was missing a CC. Why do they keep throwing red herrings out there. If life is back to 'normal' and it seems LE cannot find her or good leads, why bring it up?
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tesstruhart wrote:Wow, Stolat, I never heard he was missing a CC. Why do they keep throwing red herrings out there. If life is back to 'normal' and it seems LE cannot find her or good leads, why bring it up?
I don't know, but perhaps if they feel LE is still building a case against them they still need to throw out herrings.
I wonder if they are claiming her on their taxes as a dependent. I wonder what proof is needed to claim a dependent on taxes and does the IRS check against missing childrens records to jutify the claim of dependency?
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tesstruhart wrote:Wow, Stolat, I never heard he was missing a CC. Why do they keep throwing red herrings out there. If life is back to 'normal' and it seems LE cannot find her or good leads, why bring it up?
And according to this article -- they KNEW about it 4 weeks after her disappearance! This is not something they are claiming is new. Why now?? Why come out with this now? Perhaps the IRS is calling bullshit on their taxes and # of dependents.
And someone explain to me why they didn't cancel their so-called stolen card one month after it was stolen??? You can still track a stolen card even after you cancel it. I did. You can still see when/where someone *attempted* to use your cold card (hot card means it's still active and non-reported as stolen).
And in fact, if they didn't cancel it -- what proof do we have that they weren't the ones who tried to use it and stage a fraud charge??
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/baby-lisa-irwin-clue-debit-card-name-changing-website_n_1532786.html
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Ann - Tx wrote:
Snipped from Stolat's comment on Developing Stories:
Stolat wrote:
Jeremy Irwin claims that someone stole his debit card one month after Lisa was reported missing.
-- Was this reported to LE?
DID ANYONE REMEMBER THIS IMPORTANT DETAIL? This was news to me and more importantly, why is it news to the media? This would have been an important aspect of the search had it been made known (assuming it had been true). Jeremy claims that a charge on his stolen card was made to an overseas site that changes baby names for a fee.
--Now most people would have used a stole bank card for gasoline (just swipe it) or WalMart purchases, etc. Who would have thought to take the baby, the cell phones, AND a bank card JUST to change the baby's name?
What he doesn't add is that it is not a site dedicated to changing only baby names, but people's names in general.
From the article:
During the interview, Ann Curry said an NBC producer looked at the charges on Jeremy Irwin’s credit card, and they appear to lead to a website for a stationery paper company.
-- Stationery company? As in printing of flyers and stuff?
“I don’t know why it takes you there now,” Jeremy Irwin responded, “but when we first found out about this in December, that’s where it used to go was the website where you can change someone’s name online.”
--- Now how would he know that?
Well, I think this is pretty simple to answer -- someone needs to look at Jeremy's computer and review the cache folder for his internet page hits. Stuff will be cached there - icons graphics - anything relating to the page as it appeared when he *allegedly* viewed it and saw what he claims. Someone could be able to tell based on what is cached there if he really saw it as he claims.
Did he take any screenshots when he saw that site??? Did he print off pages from that site?? My guess is no - and conveniently so. But if FBI really wanted to - they could validate this claim. My suspicion is that based on the fact they say it didn't generate any leads tells me there is a very good reason why -- and that this is yet another excuse for them to point the finger at someone else. Hence their complaint:
"Bradley said while she understands the police and FBI have jobs to do, the answers she has received about her daughter are unacceptable. "
Just as her answers and lack of SEARCHING of any kind on her part are unacceptable as well. But such is life when you've returned back to 100%.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-parents-hope-fraudulent-debit-card-charge-leads-to-break-in-case
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http://www.realitychatter.com/t3810p180-developing-stories#140185
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Maybe Deb needed a dye job. Doesn't she get her hair done before every new TODAY show she appears on? I'm sure they'll pay for her salon expenses in exchange for an interview.
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Deed Poll info and links from web:
Foreign National:
" It is unlikely a Deed Poll issued by us will be effective changing your name unless you have a specific purpose for the Deed Poll document. For example, you may be applying for British citizenship and the British Embassy you are dealing with have advised you to apply to us for a Deed Poll so your new British passport is issued in your new name."
http://www.deedpoll.org.uk/WhoCanApply.html
Foreign National:
" It is unlikely a Deed Poll issued by us will be effective changing your name unless you have a specific purpose for the Deed Poll document. For example, you may be applying for British citizenship and the British Embassy you are dealing with have advised you to apply to us for a Deed Poll so your new British passport is issued in your new name."
http://www.deedpoll.org.uk/WhoCanApply.html
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http://www.deedpoll.org.uk/CanIChangeMyChildsName.html#Section6
" A child's legal name can easily be changed by Deed Poll providing everyone with parental responsibility (PR) for the child consents to the name change. If your child is 16 years of age or over (or approaching their 16th birthday), they must apply for their own Deed Poll for which parental consent is not required.
Parental responsibility is a legal term and this article will enable you to understand the meaning of parental responsibility and determine who has parental responsibility for your child and who needs to consent to your child's name change. For quick access, we have listed this article's contents below. However, we urge you to read the whole article for a full understanding of the issues relating to changing a child's name. You will also find information in this article about the situations where you may be able to change your child's name without the consent of the father."
" A child's legal name can easily be changed by Deed Poll providing everyone with parental responsibility (PR) for the child consents to the name change. If your child is 16 years of age or over (or approaching their 16th birthday), they must apply for their own Deed Poll for which parental consent is not required.
Parental responsibility is a legal term and this article will enable you to understand the meaning of parental responsibility and determine who has parental responsibility for your child and who needs to consent to your child's name change. For quick access, we have listed this article's contents below. However, we urge you to read the whole article for a full understanding of the issues relating to changing a child's name. You will also find information in this article about the situations where you may be able to change your child's name without the consent of the father."
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Jeeeez Louiseeeeeeeeeeeeee, it sounds crazy that anyone would steal a debit card from Jeremy, ANYONE that knows anything about the case wouldn't have bothered stealing it as the Bradwin's didn't have cell phone service they claimed BECAUSE they had not paid the bill, the phones were turned off. They didn't have any money to steal, LOL.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Vinnie P is highlighting Baby Lisa's case on the debit card issue, at least it's something, anything to keep Lisa's name in the news.
I am really suprised as to why they come forward now, Mike Brooks said it "doesn't make sense."
Oh good grief, a body analysis person is on giving her opinion, Susan Constantine, I don't give a rat's ass about anything she offers, they are not facts, jmo.
Mike Brooks harping on the couple still NOT being interviewed seperately.
I am really suprised as to why they come forward now, Mike Brooks said it "doesn't make sense."
Oh good grief, a body analysis person is on giving her opinion, Susan Constantine, I don't give a rat's ass about anything she offers, they are not facts, jmo.
Mike Brooks harping on the couple still NOT being interviewed seperately.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Some please put Lisa's parent's in touch with Skank or another Anthony. They really have no idea how to divert, gain sympathy( ie funds) and keep themselved in the news.
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Good point, Art. Why are theycoming out with this now ? It is important NOW ?? Do they need to go on a national tv show and have their attorney present ? Are they afraid Ann Curry might ask something they shouldn't discuss ? I am with Mike Brooks, doesn't make sense. Vinnie is wondering that right now too !art tart wrote:Jeeeez Louiseeeeeeeeeeeeee, it sounds crazy that anyone would steal a debit card from Jeremy, ANYONE that knows anything about the case wouldn't have bothered stealing it as the Bradwin's didn't have cell phone service they claimed BECAUSE they had not paid the bill, the phones were turned off. They didn't have any money to steal, LOL.
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Another thing, didn't LE take the home computers ?
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Screaming JVM is focusing on Baby Lisa, at least for part of the hour, she has Judge Mary Ann Gunn & wendy murphy. Both critical of the Bradwin's for not doing as LE ask, to interview seperately.
I am even suprised they made the effort to appear on the TODAY show.
I am even suprised they made the effort to appear on the TODAY show.
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.art tart wrote:Screaming JVM is focusing on Baby Lisa, at least for part of the hour, she has Judge Mary Ann Gunn & wendy murphy. Both critical of the Bradwin's for not doing as LE ask, to interview seperately.
I am even suprised they made the effort to appear on the TODAY show.
Art, you know you can't wait to tighten your biceps with Jane by lifting tomato cans !! Admit, it you can't wait . Dang, it she didn't do that tonight. lol
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Seriously...someone is going to steal your baby and then a month later, come back and steal your debit card to pay for a name change for the baby they stole?? Now there's a serious Hinky Meter gauge going off!!! These people got alot of bad vibes bouncing off them
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LMAO nanshin, that screamin JVM, hell, if she isn't eating food out of dumpsters & complaining about the waste of food, she is showing us all kinds of crazy container's, all in the hopes that we quit using paper plates. Most of the families I know that are using paper plates have little children & claim it's faster, they just dump everything left in the trash & no clean up.
Yep, I'm going to pass on the tomato cans, I like my biceps flabby. LOL!
Yep, I'm going to pass on the tomato cans, I like my biceps flabby. LOL!
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Right Hunters GMa....why change a name of a stolen baby.. what, was Lisa telling everyone her real name. Dumber than a box of rocks these people!
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Hunters G-ma wrote:Seriously...someone is going to steal your baby and then a month later, come back and steal your debit card to pay for a name change for the baby they stole?? Now there's a serious Hinky Meter gauge going off!!! These people got alot of bad vibes bouncing off them
Hunters G ma, You can't help but laugh, did Tacopina really think this was remotely believeable? I realize that the parent's want LE to move on, but until they are satisfied, that's not going to happen.
So many other precious missing w/equally unbelievable stories, SKY & Alya both come to mind, HINKY parents in both cases. I don't think SKY's dad NOR Alya's mother had anything to do with their disappearance, but the Sky's mom & Alya's dad have equally bull chit stories about the alleged abductions. It's disheartening, for all the advances that have been made in forensics & in investigations, we still don't have the ability to persuade an un-named suspect parent to just tell LE where they dumped their baby.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Hunters G-ma wrote:Seriously...someone is going to steal your baby and then a month later, come back and steal your debit card to pay for a name change for the baby they stole?? Now there's a serious Hinky Meter gauge going off!!! These people got alot of bad vibes bouncing off them
I assumed and could be wrong that the credit card went missing the same day the baby did. But they did not say anything in public (Possibly LE told them not to) in hopes that someone would use the card and give them a clue as to where their baby was. But why come out with this info now? I'm stumped on that one. You would think LE would have been all over that 7 months ago.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
art tart wrote:Hunters G-ma wrote:Seriously...someone is going to steal your baby and then a month later, come back and steal your debit card to pay for a name change for the baby they stole?? Now there's a serious Hinky Meter gauge going off!!! These people got alot of bad vibes bouncing off them
Hunters G ma, You can't help but laugh, did Tacopina really think this was remotely believeable? I realize that the parent's want LE to move on, but until they are satisfied, that's not going to happen.
So many other precious missing w/equally unbelievable stories, SKY & Alya both come to mind, HINKY parents in both cases. I don't think SKY's dad NOR Alya's mother had anything to do with their disappearance, but the Sky's mom & Alya's dad have equally bull chit stories about the alleged abductions. It's disheartening, for all the advances that have been made in forensics & in investigations, we still don't have the ability to persuade an un-named suspect parent to just tell LE where they dumped their baby.
Oh they have the means to do it, and I'm not talking torture, they just do not use it.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
SweetT wrote:Hunters G-ma wrote:Seriously...someone is going to steal your baby and then a month later, come back and steal your debit card to pay for a name change for the baby they stole?? Now there's a serious Hinky Meter gauge going off!!! These people got alot of bad vibes bouncing off them
I assumed and could be wrong that the credit card went missing the same day the baby did. But they did not say anything in public (Possibly LE told them not to) in hopes that someone would use the card and give them a clue as to where their baby was. But why come out with this info now? I'm stumped on that one. You would think LE would have been all over that 7 months ago.
Sweet T, I think Jeremy said he noticed the charge on the debit card a month later, I guess that might be when his bank statement came. I too thought I heard Jeremy say his card was stolen a month later but maybe he mis-spoke. Jeremy wasn't home w/his wallet when Baby Lisa was taken so how could the debit card have been taken at the same time, UNLESS he left the debit card at the house. Nothing else was stolen except cell phones that didn't work, strange.
This really stinks to high heaven, JUST now making their first appearance since Dr. Phil, they really didn't have anything to share it seems except to criticize LE as they are not getting acceptable answers. I assume this case is bogged down w/LE not looking past the family.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
Ann - Tx wrote:
Snipped from Stolat's comment on Developing Stories:
Stolat wrote:
Jeremy Irwin claims that someone stole his debit card one month after Lisa was reported missing. DID ANYONE REMEMBER THIS IMPORTANT DETAIL? This was news to me and more importantly, why is it news to the media? This would have been an important aspect of the search had it been made known (assuming it had been true). Jeremy claims that a charge on his stolen card was made to an overseas site that changes baby names for a fee. What he doesn't add is that it is not a site dedicated to changing only baby names, but people's names in general.
From the article:
During the interview, Ann Curry said an NBC producer looked at the charges on Jeremy Irwin’s credit card, and they appear to lead to a website for a stationery paper company.
“I don’t know why it takes you there now,” Jeremy Irwin responded, “but when we first found out about this in December, that’s where it used to go was the website where you can change someone’s name online.”
Well, I think this is pretty simple to answer -- someone needs to look at Jeremy's computer and review the cache folder for his internet page hits. Stuff will be cached there - icons graphics - anything relating to the page as it appeared when he *allegedly* viewed it and saw what he claims. Someone could be able to tell based on what is cached there if he really saw it as he claims.
Did he take any screenshots when he saw that site??? Did he print off pages from that site?? My guess is no - and conveniently so. But if FBI really wanted to - they could validate this claim. My suspicion is that based on the fact they say it didn't generate any leads tells me there is a very good reason why -- and that this is yet another excuse for them to point the finger at someone else. Hence their complaint:
"Bradley said while she understands the police and FBI have jobs to do, the answers she has received about her daughter are unacceptable. "
Just as her answers and lack of SEARCHING of any kind on her part are unacceptable as well. But such is life when you've returned back to 100%.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-parents-hope-fraudulent-debit-card-charge-leads-to-break-in-case
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http://www.realitychatter.com/t3810p180-developing-stories#140185
RC - Developing Stories
IF we had the site, we could do the "Wayback machine" On the site.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
This was nothing more than a PR stunt. I don't have word for how much they pizz me off doin this. It just heaps insult on top of injury. They're liars and they are covering up what happened. They disappeared their baby and it looks like they got away with it. Joe Tacopina should be ashamed of himself as well.
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Re: Lisa Irwin -- Missing 10/4/11
I agree about the PR stunt. I think law enforcement knows where they want to go, but since our parents of the year can't see their way clear to giving them an interview all by their lonesome, I think things are at a standstill. They keep referencing the FBI, however, until their is proof of a kidnapping I don't believe its an FBI case. It belongs locally or at most to the State. They are BS artists.
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