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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:36 am

PTSD test site:

http://www.healthyplace.com/psychological-tests/ptsd-test/
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:18 am

From tawnidilly:
JA laughing at end of court re her PTSD, cameras rolling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LGYHuDDLDQ8

Day 31:
Morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DkP9Nqqwhg

Afternoon:
Dr. Richard Samuels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adTQKWFG-PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Tz81ZRc4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzDXJVaFAN4
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:44 pm

LaViolette will be called as an expert witness for the defense. Here is a preview of her work:

"Gender Fairytales and Domestic Violence" - Alyce LaViolette - 10/16/08
@ 1:25:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vFt8FCrBk6k
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Post by justanopinion Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:24 pm

I am having issues with this expert witness... any testing should be relevant and should consider the current status of the client...

example: when you are testing an individual who may be diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome who is borderline intellectually impaired you would compare the abilities and deficits to those of his/her peers. Not to a person with a normal IQ.. does this person brush their teeth up and down or in circles... (quantified by parental instruction, and age) does this person walk up and down stairs one step at a time or do they place one foot on one step followed by the second foot on the next step (quantified with are there any physical disabilities)

back to JA ... the pathological liar http://depressiond.com/pathological-liar/ her current circumstances plus her socialization, plus people who knew her well, teachers, co-workers, parents, as well as her own writings, testing and interviews, emails, texts and interactions with guards, media contact, letters to the sister, etc..as well as those who knew TA and JA both would all have to be interviewed and evaluated in context to the timing of the interviews and the event. This expert is limited in his field of expertise.. JMO

In addition there would have to be an assessment re: JA personality and affect and mental status from anecdotal evidence from those individuals prior and post event..

Did JA ever have a serious attempt at suicide? Did she talk about suicide prior to June 4th 2008.. Is it ideation or real attempts or in my opinion another BS to garner sympathy or control of others (manipulation).

Mental health is a sliding scale as we all have some of the markers for some diagnostic criterion... OCD do things have a place and always in their place. Do you sometimes wonder after you are in bed if you turned off the stove and locked the doors... do you get up and check?? lol This guy is jumping at straws... and even the new DSM-V is gravely disorganized and incorrect in several places according to one of the Authors and other professionals http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/display-old/article/10168/1425378?pageNumber=1
Psychiatry is a fairly new science as even this "witness" attested to in his discussion on the brain... I believe the quote is similar to "we don't know everything yet! But this is how we think it works"

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Post by justanopinion Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:28 pm

I wanted to add... re: suicide some information and stats..

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/193026.php
What Are the Signs and Symptoms of Suicidal Thoughts?

A symptom is something the patient senses and describes, while a sign is something other people, such as the doctor notice. For example, drowsiness may be a symptom while dilated pupils may be a sign.
Appearing to feel trapped or hopeless
Appearing to have an abnormal preoccupation with violence, dying and/or death
Being in a heightened state of anxiety
Being very moody
Changing personality
Changing routine
Changing sleeping patterns
Consuming (more) drugs
Consuming more alcohol
Engaging in risky behavior, such as driving carelessly or taking drugs
Getting affairs in order
Getting hold of a gun, medications, or substances that could end a life
Giving stuff away
Having depression
Having panic attacks
Impaired concentration
Increased self-criticism
Isolating oneself
Psychomotor agitation - such as pacing around a room, wringing one's hands, taking off clothing and putting it back on, and other such actions
Saying goodbye to others as if it were the last time
Seeming to be unable to experience pleasurable emotions from normally pleasurable life events such as eating, exercise, social interaction or sex
Seeming to have severe remorse
Talking about killing oneself, expressing regret about being alive or ever having been born
A significant number of people with suicidal ideation keep their thoughts and feelings a secret and appear to have no apparent signs.


USA - according to the FDA (Food and Drug Administration), there are about 30,000 completed suicides in America each year, an annual incidence of 0.01%. 80% of suicides are among males. Suicide is the third leading cause of death among 15 to 24 year olds. Twenty per cent of all suicides are among this age group.

United Kingdom - according to the NHS (National Health Service), during the last 20 years suicide rates in the UK have been steadily dropping. In 2006 there were 5,554 completed suicides among people aged at least 15 years. 140,000 people are hospitalized annually in England and Wales after suicide attempts. Three-quarters of all UK suicides are in males, with the highest risk among those aged 25 to 34 years, followed by 35 to 44 years. After accidental death, suicide is the second most common cause of death in males aged 15 to 44.

The NHS adds that according to its research, nearly all completed suicides are among individuals with a mental illness, for example, depression. Approximately ten to fifteen per cent of patients with bipolar disorder die prematurely due to suicide. About 4% of individuals with schizophrenia die by suicide, usually not long after the onset of symptoms.

Sorry this is so long...
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:29 pm

JA flipping handstands after Det Flores leaves room:
July 2008, day of her arrest:


http://video.foxnews.com/v/222833082...aught-on-tape/

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"PTSD MY ASS!!

Ho-leeee shit at that video!

I don't buy into the whole Jodi vs. Casey Anthony thing, but now I'm starting to think it's more like Jodi vs. Amanda Knox.

1. Knox was doing cartwheels at the police station, Jodi's doing handstands
2. Knox lied and tried to pin it on someone who wasn't even there , Jodi's ninjas
3. Both used throat slashes
4. Both were hit in the head (yeah right)
5. Knox's ex got caught trying to board a train outta Dodge, Jodi was pulled over for upside down license place (she got away, though).
6. Knox said police hit her and called her a stupid liar while in custody, Jodi was called a fucking idiot or 5 year old or something
7. Knox's parents are indicted for libel after shit-talking the police, Jodi's mom or Matt or whoever forged those letters
8. Both had prison buddies that were willing to testify to their character
9. Defense attorneys argue that Guede's letter was based on "a feeling" and that his accusations are not based on facts or events he witnessed, Jodi's vengeful hearsay
10. Both were forced to take a gander at their handiwork and looked away (Jodi was peeking, but still)

Looks like Jodi has a role model/hero worship thing going on

Knox ultimately ended up free, though, and I shall shit my pants if that happens with Jodi. I shall pee, too. Stabby bitches. "
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:04 pm

Info on law suit re Dr. Samuels:

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/14/nancy-grace-breaks-news-about-arias-psychologist?clusterId=1303#videoplayer

2000, NJ:
- failed to examine BOTH parties in custody dispute;
-bartered service for dental services; father rec psychiatric service from Samuels.
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Post by justanopinion Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:11 pm

Sanctions from court document show he is required to take an ethics course and show completion...

I am hehehe as he lists it on his CV

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/111271583/Curriculum-Vitae---Richard-M-Samuels-PhD
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:14 pm

Jury info:

Juror No. 1
She is a white female in her 60s and sits closest to the witness stand. She doesn't look at Arias often during her testimony. People in the gallery observed her yawning once during an emotional part of Arias' testimony.

Juror No. 2
He is a white male in his 50s. He takes few notes and usually has his head cupped in his hands as he listens to testimony.

Juror No. 3

She is a white female in her 40s. She takes a lot of notes and often watches prosecutor Juan Martinez as he moves around the courtroom. She has been seen submitting questions.

Juror No. 4
He is a white male in his 60s, and he takes few notes.

Juror No. 5
She is a married, white female in her 30s. She sits on the edge of her seat and is the most visible juror from the gallery because she has a “unique hair style.”

Juror No. 6
She is a white female in her 60s and is also seen taking many notes.

Juror No. 7

He is a white male in his 30s, and he is married. He takes notes and often bites his nails.

Juror No. 8

He is a white male in his 50s and is married. He also takes notes and has been observed submitting questions.

Juror No. 9
He is a white male in his 60s. He wears denim on most days and sits at the end of the jury box. He sits close to the first row of the gallery where Alexander's family sits.

Juror No. 10
He is a white male in his 70s and is married. He has a tattoo on his right arm. He rarely is seen taking notes. He sits the furthest away from the witness.

Juror No. 11
She is a married, white female in her 30s. She takes a lot of notes. She does not look at Arias during testimony. She tends to look straight ahead or down at her notes.

Juror No. 12
She is a white female in her 40s and also takes lots of notes. She swiveled her chair toward Arias during her testimony.

Juror No. 13
He is a white male in his late 60s to early 70s. He wears an audio-enhancing headset provided by the court. He does takes notes.

Juror No. 14
He is a white male in his early 60s who often swivels in his chair. He does not appear to be taking notes.

Juror No. 15
He is a white male in his late 20s or early 30s. He appears to be the youngest member of the jury and takes very few notes. He smiled when Martinez asked Arias if she could predict the future.

Juror No. 16
He is a white male in his 40s.

Juror No. 17
He is a Hispanic male in his late 20s to early 30s. He dresses casually and sometimes slouches so far down in his chair that he is hardly visible to the gallery. He does not appear to be taking notes.

Juror No. 18
She is a white female in her 40s. She is an occasional note taker and she often looks at the gallery during sidebars.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03/15/meet-jodi-arias-jury
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:21 pm

justanopinion wrote:Sanctions from court document show he is required to take an ethics course and show completion...

I am hehehe as he lists it on his CV

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/111271583/Curriculum-Vitae---Richard-M-Samuels-PhD

Page 2, 3rd entry from bottom:
" Ethics in Psychology, Institute for the Study of Human Knowledge, 2000, 17hrs, "

It has to be this entry as ALL the others were listed for AZ and this had NO location provided. Apparently, he took a bunch of other courses that year hoping to bury this one! He was sanctioned in NJ.
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Post by justanopinion Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:15 pm

this obit might be his father...
doesn't mention him being married????

funny that his fathers obit doesn't mention this one being married...

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/DemocratAndChronicle/obituary.aspx?n=Richard-M-Samuels&pid=96860873#fbLoggedOut
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:55 pm

Insanity Plea: AZ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense


Court Upholds Arizona Limits Imposed on Insanity Defense
By LINDA GREENHOUSE
Published: June 30, 2006


" The Supreme Court upheld Arizona's limited approach to the insanity defense on Thursday, ruling that states are not obliged to permit a defendant to argue that mental illness prevented him from forming the requisite intent to commit a crime. "

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE4D81430F933A05755C0A9609C8B63
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Post by Freckles Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:28 am

Lots of JA text docs
The subpoena from Mar 2008 for Wal Mart records, the gas station Tecora records

http://s1309.beta.photobucket.com/user/wasthinking/media/Documents/motiontocompelwalmart_zpsd38f2e6e.png.html?sort=3&o=0
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Post by justanopinion Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:38 pm

Freckles wrote:Could someone screen shoot these messages from Matt M where he admits stating he would lie for JA?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=443092302433584&set=a.443092075766940.1073741831.160510210691796&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=443092265766921&set=a.443092075766940.1073741831.160510210691796&type=1&theater

here they are ....
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:47 pm

Were you crying?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM_8BEriEeI
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:51 pm

"I was there against my will..."
interview with Det Flores

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRJ-oL0xRZc&list=PLYe2dWgF7z52WtA2M0YXQksDII13sL5ZN&index=12
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Juan's style: The art of prosecution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1gBQTM4xwk&list=PLYe2dWgF7z52WtA2M0YXQksDII13sL5ZN
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Det Flores Interview prior to arrest:
Trial day 6
From Tawnidilly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76clRq1lAwc&list=PLYe2dWgF7z52WtA2M0YXQksDII13sL5ZN

Police Interrogation: July 16, 2008
Interview after the arrest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoUB2UzWjtI&list=PLYe2dWgF7z52WtA2M0YXQksDII13sL5ZN
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:14 pm

Arias cries in court w/ showing of Travis' body:
Court testimony, news' reports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obe38582ut8
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:22 pm

Lesser charges of Second Degree Murder: July 7, 2011
Court doc submitted by Nurmi
pdf

http://wildabouttrial.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jodi_arias-Plea-Bargain-document-2011.pdf
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:24 pm

JA: Handstand, more parts included:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCJJpCjbhHc
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:56 pm

NOT a court doc.
Hearing for last Friday was cancelled due to conflict in scheduling by one of the attys:

"Prosecutor Juan Martinez is objecting to the testimony because Samuels will have to define the differences between premeditated murder and heat of passion murder, and it may confuse the jury. At the end of the trial, the jury will be given strict legal definitions for premeditated murder and other lesser included crimes. Martinez said Thursday that Samuels can't be allowed to muddle the jury's understanding of these terms with his own definitions. "

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03/15/jodi-arias-critical-hearing-defense-canceled
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Post by Freckles Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:11 pm


Posted on February 18, 2013 by admin
A Jodi Arias Poem

"In court last week Jodi read the jury a poem she wrote to Travis Alexander sent just a little under a month before she says she killed him in self-defense. The poem is below:

How doth the mind of the lord
See it fitting that I should be bored
That I might compose some poetry
And send it speedily off to theepoem
But I think is that in fact
If I am bored then I must act
For it is my own restless mind
That has responded this way in kind
And for that boredom of which I speak
I am still grateful for it’s not bleak
I am still happy for there is much
I can still do for it and such
Like send an email after three
And read another book you see
So here’s to wishing you a time
That’s full of happiness and rhyme
May your days be full of stimulation
And not just in simulation
But in reality
Just the way you’d have it be"

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/category/jodi-arias/page/2/
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Post by Freckles Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:23 am

ME Autopsy report:
12 pages, pdf

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/redactedtravisautopsy.pdf
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Post by Freckles Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:24 am

Transcripts of PD report:

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/police-files-on-jodi-arias.html?m=1
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Post by Freckles Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:06 am

Taken from docs:
JA/TA timeline events


References

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1 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/31/jodi-arias-timeline_n_2387245.html

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2 http://gma.yahoo.com/jodi-arias-trial-timeline-events-murder-case-173135619--abc-news-topstories.html

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3 http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/

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4 http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/

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5 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/jodi-arias-trial-travis-alexander-graphic-details_n_2435100.html?ref=topbar#slide=1933691

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6 http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/01/jodi-arias-death-penalty-trial-accusatory-911-call-audio

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7 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/112733458/Jodi-Arias-Court-Documents-Feb-2012

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8 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=109828551

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9 http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2012/10/05/jodi-arias-killer-or-victim

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10 http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthread.php?10763-Jodi-Ann-Arias-shot-and-stabbed-her-ex-boyfriend-Travis-Alexander-to-death/page216

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11 https://www.youtube.com/user/arpaionews?feature=watch

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12 http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/01/jodi-arias-travis-alexander-killer-romance




https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ak0vUAK8UbSndFl4X1V3YkZXazU0X25pQndhNVVmbXc&gid=0

Could someone get this printed out? Maybe in a couple of posts?
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Post by Freckles Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:05 pm

pdf
4 pages
slow to load, small print

Martinez filing against introducing the forged letters:

http://twitdoc.com/upload/zou2/ja-forged-letters.pdf
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Post by Freckles Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:06 pm

Stabbed in the back:
Modeling the knife wounds

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/18/jodi-arias-travis-alexander-autopsy-results?clusterId=1303#videoplayer
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Post by Freckles Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:24 pm

http://sharepdf.net/read/70505/mcmi-iii-millon-clinical-multiaxial-inventory-iii

The MCM III test
pdf 12 pages

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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:54 pm

Det Flores: Notes
pdf
1/20 pages

http://wildabouttrial.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Detective-Flores-Investigation-Report.pdf
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:59 pm

Death Penalty in AZ:
Death while in the commission or intent to commit a second/another felony.

JA admits to removing the gun from the scene.
That is a theft IF the gun belonged to Travis.

Here is another source:
" Burglary is typically defined as the unlawful entry into almost any structure (not just a home or business) with the intent to commit any crime inside (not just theft/larceny). No physical breaking and entering is required; the offender may simply trespass through an open door. Unlike robbery, which involves use of force or fear to obtain another person's property, there is usually no victim present during a burglary.

"For example, Dan enters Victor's boathouse through an open window, intending to steal Victor's boat. Finding the boat is gone, Dan returns home. Though he took nothing, Dan has committed burglary. "

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/burglary-definition.html
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:10 pm

Some of the questions on the test:

FYI- may not be actual questions
Below is a list of problems that people sometimes have after experiencing a traumatic event. Please rate on a scale from 0-3 how much or how often these following things have occurred to you in the last two weeks:
0 Not at all

1 Once per week or less/ a little bit/ one in a while
2 2 to 4 times per week/ somewhat/ half the time
3 3 to 5 or more times per week/ very much/ almost always


1. Serious accident, fire or explosion  Yes  No
2. Natural disaster (tornado, flood, hurricane, major earthquake)  Yes  No
3. Non-sexual assault by someone you know (physically attacked/injured)  Yes  No
4. Non-sexual assault by a stranger  Yes  No
5. Sexual assault by a family member or someone you know  Yes  No
6. Sexual assault by a stranger  Yes  No
7. Military combat or a war zone  Yes  No
8. Sexual contact before you were age 18 with someone who was 5 or more years older than you  Yes  No
9. Imprisonment  Yes  No
10. Torture  Yes  No
11. Life-threatening illness  Yes  No
12. Other traumatic event  Yes  No
13. If ?other traumatic event? is checked YES above; please write what the event was ___________
14. Of the question to which you answered YES, which was the worst ___________
(Please list the question #)
15. Which of the above incidences is the reason for which you are currently seeking treatment? ___________
(Please list the question #)


If you answered NO to all of the above questions, STOP
If you answered YES to any of the above questions, please complete the rest of the form
Please check YES or NO regarding the event listed in question 15.


16.Were you physically injured? ? Yes ? No
17. Was someone else physically injured? ? Yes ? No
18. Did you think your life was in danger? ? Yes ? No
19. Did you think someone else?s life was in danger? ? Yes ? No
20. Did you feel helpless? ? Yes ? No
21. Did you feel terrified? ? Yes ? No
Please complete both sides of this document if you answered YES to any of the first series of questions (1-14).

22. Having upsetting thought or images about the traumatic event that come into your head when you did not want them to
0 1 2 3

23. Having bad dreams or nightmares about the traumatic event
0 1 2 3

24. Reliving the traumatic event (acting as if it were happening again)
0 1 2 3

25. Feeling emotionally upset when you are reminded of the traumatic event
0 1 2 3

26. Experiencing physical reactions when reminded of the traumatic event (sweating, increased heart rate)
0 1 2 3

27. Trying not to think or talk about the traumatic event
0 1 2 3

28. Trying to avoid activities or people that remind you of the traumatic event
0 1 2 3

29. Not being able to remember an important part of the traumatic event
0 1 2 3

30. Having much less interest or participating much less often in important activities
0 1 2 3

31. Feeling distant or cut off from the people around you
0 1 2 3

32. Feeling emotionally numb (unable to cry or have loving feelings)
0 1 2 3

33. Feeling as if your future hopes or plans will not come true
0 1 2 3

34. Having trouble falling or staying asleep
0 1 2 3

35. Feeling irritable or having fits of anger
0 1 2 3

36. Having trouble concentrating
0 1 2 3

37. Being overly alert
0 1 2 3

38. Being jumpy or easily startled
0 1 2 3

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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:20 pm

HKN: Notes on today and why court dismissed early on an abbreviated schedule:

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03/20/live-blog-does-arias-fate-lie-experts-hands
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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:38 pm

Blessings to a wonderful sister site!
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SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
MARICOPA COUNT
Y
CR2008
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031021
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001 DT
03/18/2013
Docket Code 012
12:00 p.m. Court convenes in
chambers with Defendant and respective counsel present.
Also present is Dr. Richard Samuels and Defendant mitigation specialist.
Argument is presented on issues in Dr. Samuels testimony.
IT IS ORDERED taking the matter under advisement.
12:14 p.m. Court
stands in recess.
1:28 p.m. Court convenes in chambers with Defendant counsel present.
Discussion is held.
IT IS ORDERED the hearing from 1:28 p.m. to 1:33 p.m. to remain sealed until further
order of the Court

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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:53 pm

Jury questions for Samuels:
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Sorry-but I don't think they are buying what doc is selling!

3/‎21/‎13
Late start. Twitter says attorneys are in chambers.
Jodi has a Red top, white shirt and black pants. She looks nice today. Not as washed out looking.

The dr is back on the stand to answer jury questions. Suppose to be 100+ (the Q & A are the short version)
Jury Questions: Judge reads them out for the dr to answer.
1. Are you only allowed to testify with your clients consent? Yes
2. Fight or flight, does the body choose? Depends
3. Can both happen at the same time? Yes
4. Can memories blocked return? Only if hippocampus is really flooded
5. How can we be certain you diagnose is not based on her lies? Based on my experience
6. Did you hypz her? NO
7. Did anyone else? No
8. Fight or flight-do these memories exist? Not to me
9. If she can draw from photos, or stories, etc-couldn't she remember then? NO. They make fake memories
10. Are their other shrinks that have different opinions than you? There's never 100% agreement.
11. acute stress-more than 6 mths after you interviewed her. Please explain? I was speculating and making my own determination. PTSD is not a "get out of free card" (now he's talking about meteors)
12. On what dates did she take the test? Dec 2009
13. Can you be sure Jodi is not lying to you? Not with 100%
14. Would the shut down of the hippocampus be responsible for stress? Yes, but not totally. (not sure I got this question 100% correct)
15. Do you think Jodi suppress memories or are they missing? Can't be for sure.
16. Did you try hypz for the suppressed memories? No. The memories were not there
17. What steps do you take to assure yourself that somebody is telling the truth about memory loss? I have to look at the evidence. Can't be 100%
18. Is it possible somebody can fool a professional? Can't be 100% but I think I am right.
19. Was Jodi tested more than once? No
20. Could you tell when somebody is lying-or is it just your opinion? No. You have to explore
21. She made negative statements in her diary even though you said she didn't? They were mild statements.
22. Are there other disorders that would be the same? Yes. (now he explains why he's right)
23. Is there any science to explain about a stressful event? Maybe (now he explains why he is right)
24. How do you ask your question when you are interviewing a person? I just usually let them speak. I may ask a leading question
25. TGA- a juror calls him on his percentage being off from one day to the next and he corrects the juror.
26. TGA- is the list all inclusive? Unlikely
27. Does Jodi take medication to treat PTSD? Tranquilizer and anti depression
28. Time article-How did Jodi gets so much done on the day she killed Travis? Now dr. is explain about basic surival decisions.
29. Did you diagnose any conditions not mentioned? Anxiety and a personality disorder
30. Appears- Are you not 100% for sure? We are seldom 100% sure.
31. Are your opinions based on what the patient tells you? Not all the way
32. Shock event-can the brain still function to make a rational decision? Not always rational. For example in this case, a camera was found in the washer (Objection from the state)

Approach Judge
33. When discussing thoughts, did you use actors? The story changed is what the word "actors" meant.
34. Tremors or shakes-How can you tell PTSD causes this, and it's not fear for herself? Jodi told me.
35. Did you see Jodi shaking before she mentioned it? I did not notice it b/c I was behind a wall.
36. Are the actions a person commits while the hippocampus (- poor planned (did not get this whole question)
37. Are action with a person personality able to control the hippocampus? Acute stress makes you stressed and work on autopilot
38. Can these actions be the extreme opposite? Can the mind choose? The brain can't choose. (something about an elevator)
39. Adrenalin output would increase if you are killing somebody? (state objects)

Approach Judge
39. Repeat- Yes it's possible, just not probable
40. If not, why? People are different
41. PTSD and comparing Jodi to police and solider. Is that fair? PTSD is a label to list symptons.
42. Selective anmnesia? not valid
43. Would you still treat somebody that was not honest? No
44. Why didn't you give Jodi the test again? The score would not have changed
45. 25-30 hours is a short time to test somebody for PTSD ? No usually it's 6-10 hours.
46. Is the M test used for other test? Yes, some companies do
47. PTSD, when did you catch the errors? Nov or Dec preparing for trial
48. Do you fill they were big errors? No, not really
49. Jodi remembers the beginning of the attack and end-so she has memories of the attack, right? NO
50. Can the stress occur if somebody plans to kill verus defending? Possible but not probable
51. DO you often make mistakes in your reports? No
52. Where was Jodi when she came out of her fog? Hoover Dam
53. You have issues with omitting or forgetting information? Don't you think that is important? Yes
54. Why wasn't she retested? It wouldn't change the score.
55. Do you consider yourself an impartical 3 rd party? I try to be
56
57. Why the gift? I don't feel it was wrong.
58. Explain the phone call between Jodi and her mom? Lots of calls. They get angry
59. ?Jodi described it as venting towards her mother
60. In your opinion, do you think Jodi was assertive if she confronts bf and gf's? I don't think she was assertive
61. Do medications cause any of the anmensia you mentioned? Yes
62. Are you not 100% sure Jodi suffers from accute stress? That's correct
63. Anal sex. Is it important or not? It was only important for how many times.
64. When somebody changes the story, does it raise a red flag? Always, but IMO, Jodi is telling the truth. He was thinking about MP at one time
65. Sending a self help is more for therapy? I concur. It can help
66. You said if somebody changes the story, it's more believeable. Is that correct? Yes
67. If Jodi is lying now, wouldn't it make sense her story is consisant? Yes
68. Who conducted the interview with Jodi's friends? Def
69. PD Scales? No didn't use them
70. What are you suppose to do if somebody is suicidal? Inform people
71.
72. Why do you believe Jodi's self esteem was low when she met Travis? Jodi told me

Recess
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Jury questions and cliff notes:

After lunch
The Dr is still on the stand. Still answering jury questions.

73. Low self esteem is quite normal? Not normal but it?s common
74. How did the test results go towards the PTSD? She met the list
75. If a population lied, couldn't it be called a loophole? Yes, if the population lied
76. Do you assume people answer truthfully? Yes
77. Couldn?t a hypothesis made early skew the results? Yes, if you are not trained
78. Could that hypothesis determine how a tester reads results? We constantly change. It?s fluid.
79. DA article- small number? It?s the Transit Global Anmesia
80. Flight fight, was there ever any discussing on why Jodi did not flee the bedroom? She was trying to protect herself
81. Do you normally fill out the questionnaire? Sometimes
82. Are you worried about errors? No
83. How can the test if somebody is lying if the person stays consistent in their lies? It would be hard. The answers are not that important
84. Repeated abuse from Travis-Wasn?t she still telling the ninjas story at this time? She told me about the abuse early on.
85. Timeframe of Question 16-21 all lies? Yes
86. The answers are based on a fake story? Yes
87. Messes up Jodi?s story? Yes
88. Don?t the lies mess up the test? I wouldn?t work with them if they were lying
89. Not being able to remember the event. Considering she killed Travis, doesn?t this seem inconsistent? She doesn?t remember
90. Can a person commit a murder and still suffer a stress? It?s possible, but less probable
91.even if intentional, would the event still consider stressful? It?s possible, not probable
92. Why would she run into the closet and corner herself if she was in fight flight mode? It had two doors
93. Flight or fight- wouldn?t someone want to get away from the danger? You would flight, then the next step would be to fight.
94. Would they want help from someone? I suppose
95. Are you able to state Jodi had either PTSD or any other before June 4? IDK
96. If you plan to kill and do, versus accidently, can you suffer the stress? Lower likely hood of an accident versus if you were planning to kill someone. (WTF)
97. Is it possible Jodi didn?t write negative things about Travis b/c there was nothing to write? Not possible after reading the evidence.
98. Feeling suppressing for so long/ would it be a natural reaction when the dam breaks? Yes
99. If something is planned, is amnesia more or less likely to occur? More
100. How do you explain Jodi cleaning up the crime scene? It was planned badly
101. Retesting for PTSD. Why didn?t you? There is nothing that says he has to (after he says JM was harsh on him)
102. Is there anything in the book you gave Jodi that would mess up test results? No
103. How do you know Jodi tried to please Travis, when you never talked to Travis? I read all the stuff
104. How do you know she didn?t kill Travis out of jealousy? I read all the stuff
105. Acute Stress is the only thing that showed up ? Only in the section that describes PTSD
106. Jodi?s symptoms did not appear before June 4th? She did tell Dr that she may have had some of those symptoms.



Def followup

Symptoms of Jodi-shaking and tremors. Jodi was afraid of Travis.
Jealousy and how can Dr. be sure there was no jealousy? Dr. listened to a tape recording. They talked about him going to Cancun and Jodi never expressed she was jealous or mad.
Diary-Jodi did mention they were moving on. The Dr also reviewed text and there was no jealousy.
Thrown by JM during testimony about the PTSD and retaking the test-Dr has no concerns about the test. (Holy cow. This dude drives me crazy. I would rather listen to Creepy Gus)

Dr?s make a hypothesis but doesn?t give the test right away. He wants to refine his (speculating) hypothesis.

Approach Judge
Does your experience come into play? Absolutely. I?m awesome (he didn?t say that, but in my mind-he did)
When a person is in fight or flight, or they able to make decisions? He brings up animals. Brains don?t function properly. Jodi wanted to put distance between her and Travis on June 4th. Jodi?s fucked up brain excuses everything (or at least that?s what I?m getting from this Dr.) It?s survival.
Is it rational for a person to leave evidence at a crime scene? NO.
Lies- Have you had to kick people out because they lied? Only a few kids. (I bet this guy loves shock treatments)

Approach Judge
He didn?t want to push Jodi when she was telling the ninja story. On her own, she changed the story. Dr. believes Jodi was just protecting herself from the trauma. (She must have realized death was on the table) Dr. states again- it was NOT therapy, but if it was, it would have been a breakthrough.
Jodi was a witness to a murder-that?s why there was a trauma.
Now he?s talking about the normal group and sample group. Dr. says the people that develop these tests are very smart. The scales- looking for liars. It?s like a paper lie detector test. (So what do I believe? A paper test or my own ears?)
Low self esteem-not uncommon. He determined fast that Jodi had low self esteem. The Dr. has just admitted that when Jodi talked to ex boyfriends or girlfriends like Bianca-that was somewhat assertive.
The Dr. just called Jodi, Mrs Alexander and had to correct it. The Dr. says Jodi doesn?t love herself.

Jodi would be in fear when Travis wouldn?t call her for several days. He would get mad if she tried to stand up for herself and not call her. Travis would dominate and control her with withholding his love.

The book- Jodi has been just the Dr?s client and nothing else.

(A break for a few minutes. I had company.)
Some of the aspects of this case were not important. He says Jodi has PTSD. The Dr. said he made a mistake with his paperwork, but he corrected it.
The Hoover Dam is when her memory started to come back. He says Jodi was hyperventilating. The Dr says Jodi wouldn?t remember anything at the scene-maybe a flash here and there. (This Dr. is whacked)
Now the Dr. says she suffers from amnesia. The Dr called the crime scene a frenzy and she had the strength to pull him.

Recess (A jury member had something wrong with their headphones)

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JODI ARIAS' GRANDPARENTS BURGLARY REPORT

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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:25 pm

#49929

The dr sounds downright shady!

Late afternoon

The Dr. is still on the stand. Palin is still up for questioning for the defense.
Comparing Jodi to some soldiers- just PTSD. They both reach the same area. (Blah, blah.) Tremors and shaking, Nurmi told him first. THEN the Dr discussed it later (LOLLOL)
Transient Global Amnesia (still don?t know why they talk about this)
Hypnosis-evaluators rarely do them. It?s mostly done in therapy. Would other Dr?s have a different diagnosis other than PTSD for Jodi? (State objects-JM must feel bad today. He?s kind of quiet and soft spoken)

Approach Judge
Palin is rewording the previous question. The Dr. thinks the other Dr?s would agree with him.
EX 444- The text from Travis where he is telling Jodi she will feel his wrath.
EX 455-The text where Travis tells Jodi to leave him alone and he is sick of having days ruined by her.
EX 450- The text where Travis talks about Danny Jones.
Slut, whore, bitch, 3 hole wonder was names Travis called her. Travis always looked good in her diaries.
EX 540- The testing questions 16-21 about the trauma. (When Jodi took these tests they were when she was telling the story about the ninja when she answered. After she told her new story about self defense, the dr never retested he b/c he said it wouldn?t have mattered)
Def finished
JM is up

Retesting and Raw Data- The Dr remembers saying attorneys would not understand it. Objection Defense

Approach Judge
Raw Data- EX 550-
The defense asks for another approach
EX 550- Admitted-Raw Data
EX 535- (BOOM.) JM just proved that the Dr changed numbers. The Dr says he scored it twice.
JM shows EX 550 that Jodi was already at the max of 17. Dr says he misplaced his worksheet, but the new one meets the same thing. The Dr never said that he misplaced 535 to the jury when they asked. (BOOM)
Do you have problems with your memory, sir? No more than you have
Have you ran a diagnosed on the prosecutor? No. Well then how can you say that

The book- NOW JM is pulling out the dictionary for the Dr to see the definition of compassion. It means sympathy of another. The Dr?s first meeting with Jodi lasted 3-4 hrs.

EX 551- Webster- (HAHA) JM is proving that the Dr was providing therapy with Jodi, not an evaluation.
EX 544- Rules of his profession. Dr admits he made an error in paperwork. The Dr. says he didn?t feel sorry for her, but he felt compassion.
So you feel your role is more of a support group? No
Didn?t you just say you felt she was alone and isolated? Yes
Didn?t you use the word ?break through? to a jury member? Yes, but that?s not what I meant.
Didn?t she change her story after reading this book? It took several months after reading this book. IDK if the book had anything to do with it.

Approach Judge
During the 2nd meeting, did you still have the feelings? My feelings were not of concern.
If you had those feelings when you first started with her, are you now saying they changed? I was doing my job.
Last meeting was Dec 2012. First meeting was Dec 2010. 2 YEARS
PDS test- Jury wanted to know why you didn?t retest it? And you said it didn?t matter b/c it wouldn?t change. When was the hypothesis formed of PTSD? Several months
She could have said 20 people killed Travis and it wouldn?t have changed the test? Yes, it would change the results then.
WHY? It would be a greater mess.
If one story is untrue, wouldn?t that make you suspect? No (JM is making these tests and Dr seem really dumb)
JM wants to know if the Dr thinks 16-21 are valid?Yes
Isn?t it true you have compassion for Jodi? No
EX 535- Isn?t it true b/c you are biased towards Jodi? NO
Isn?t it an ethical issue for you with both EX with a disclosure? I recalculated the test.
This is not a foul with the ethical guidelines? (He didn?t answer the first time)
JM is bringing up how the Dr didn?t have the raw data when he was asking for it on the stand. Def objects

Approach (Palin asks for it)
EX 534- The Dr. is disorganized with his paperwork big time. JM is now showing him EX 550. The Dr. is all confused

Approach (Palin asks for it)
Jury is dismissed.
Judge told the Dr to turn over an EX?s he had.
The court is finished

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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:45 pm

Samuels in violation of HIPPA:
#49952

" Let's figure this out! Get it on Nancy Grace!

Who was the CEO of the women's coat company that saw Dr. Dick for mommy issues? Here are the clues... New York (close to New Jersey), largest women's coat company, 2000 employees, his mom controlled him...

Burlington Coat Factory
S. Rothschild
Manta
Chetta B

We need to find the testimony to figure out exactly what he said. "

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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:21 pm

JA files protective order due to outburst by spectator in court

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Post by Freckles Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:00 pm

Superb review of 3/19/2013, Dr. Samuels on stand with Juan Martinez crossing:

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/31913-day-34-doctor-is-drowning.html
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Post by Freckles Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:21 am

New:


twitdoc.com/upload/zou2/ja-expert-hearsay-issue.pdf

CR 2008-031021-001
MO'TION IN LIMINE TO PRECLUDE
CERTAIN TESTIMONY FROM DEFENSE
EXPERTS and TO PRECLUDE HEARSAY
STATEMENTS OF VICTIM
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JODI ARIAS - TRIAL INDEX

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Post by Freckles Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:08 pm

From Main page, Alessandra:
This is limiting Beth Karrass and putting media on th ehot seat:



COURT OF MARICOPA COUNTY

MINUTE ENTRY

The court has received and reviewed Defendant's Motion for Protective Order.

IT IS ORDERED setting Defendant's motion for March 27, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. before the Honorable Joseph C. Welty.

CC:

Shana Druckerman via email
Beth Karas via email
Paul Matadeen via email

http://courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032013/m5692730.pdf

___________

Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure

Rule 15.5. Excision and protective orders

a. Discretion of the Court to Deny, Defer or Regulate Disclosure. Upon motion of any party showing good cause, the court may at any time order that disclosure of the identity of any witness be deferred for any reasonable period of time not to extend beyond five days prior to the date set for trial, or that any other disclosures required by this rule be denied, deferred or regulated when it finds:

(1) That the disclosure would result in a risk or harm outweighing any usefulness of the disclosure to any party; and

(2) That the risk cannot be eliminated by a less substantial restriction of discovery rights.

b. Discretion of the Court to Authorize Excision. Whenever the court finds, on motion of any party, that only a portion of a document, material or other information is subject to disclosure under these rules, it may authorize the party disclosing it to excise that portion of the material that is not subject to disclosure and to disclose the remainder.

c. Protective and Excision Order Proceedings. On motion of the party seeking a protective or excision order, or submitting to the court for a determination as to whether any document, material or other information is subject to disclosure, the court may permit the party to present the material or information for the inspection of the judge alone. Counsel for all other parties shall be entitled to be present when such presentation is made.

d. Preservation of Record. If the court enters an order that any material, or any portion thereof, is not subject to disclosure under this rule, the entire text of the material shall be sealed and preserved in the record to be made available to the appellate court in the event of an appeal.

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Post by Freckles Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:52 pm

Alyces' Continuum of Abuse

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Post by Freckles Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:04 pm

From Tawnidilly:
Alyce leViolette on stand, abuse specialist:

Morning session:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKf4XErYNcQ

Afternoon, pt 1:
At the very end, as jury has left, JA calls Nurmi over and demands to know what "these" papers are on her desk!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYitKLsn8A

Afternoon, pt 2:
At beginning, JA is tense, alarmed. Bailiff is in long discussion with judge.
Judge speaks with attys.
Whatever happened, it will be discussed in judge's chambers 10 AM-10"45 tomorrow.
Threats? Note passing? Please watch JA's face...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snwQ6Ueag6w
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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:52 pm

From justanopinion:

Jodi Arias trial: Judge rules to allow release of court costs

" PHOENIX - A judge has ruled Thursday morning to allow the release of court costs in the Jodi Arias trial after the defense team filed a motion to keep records sealed.
Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott filed paperwork asking a judge to “seal any and all billing records submitted by any member of Ms. Arias’ defense team…”
Last week, ABC15 first reported taxpayers could end up spending more than $1 million to defend Arias in her lengthy murder trial.
Judge Joseph Welty ordered total hours billed, total dollars paid, and the range of rates paid in the Arias trial to be released to the public. ..."


Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-judge-rules-to-allow-release-of-court-costs#ixzz2OrVh3TEf"

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-judge-rules-to-allow-release-of-court-costs#ixzz2OrVXO7Ua

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-judge-rules-to-allow-release-of-court-costs
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Post by Freckles Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:17 am

Settlement proposed by Nurmi for JA:

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf
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Post by Freckles Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:08 pm

From hearing of 3/18/2010 re:
charging (p2), precluding the fraudulent letters (p 3), Samantha Alexander addressed the court (p 4), Chris and Sky Hughes both testify, along with others (p4), Sky Hughes is ordered to turn over Travis' journals to the court.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/062010/m4272242.pdf
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Post by Mari 68 Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:54 pm

Freckles wrote:Settlement proposed by Nurmi for JA:

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

yeah, she was trying to get the 2nd degree with 10 to 22 years As if! She effing decapitated him and thinks she can get 10 years??????
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