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Post by CuriousPortlander Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:25 pm

Two good sources of blogs/tweets from today's testimony:

Blog recap, Day 2: Bob Bashara trial continues
 (Read from top down)

http://live.freep.com/Event/Live_blog_Day_2_Bob_Bashara_trial_continues?Page=0


https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN

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Post by CuriousPortlander Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:00 pm


Bob Bashara's 'other woman' gives key testimony

Rachel Gillett reveals details about relationship with Grosse Pointe Park man charged in wife's murder
Author: Hank Winchester, Local 4 Reporter, @HankLocal4
Published On: Oct 15 2014 05:02:12 PM EDT   Updated  2 h



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Source/read associated article:  http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bob-basharas-other-woman-gives-key-testimony/29150470

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Post by Freckles Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:36 pm

Confused.
Are cameras allowed in the court?
What is the media ruling for this case?

Got to admit, this did crack me up!
I am sure the state was asking if BB had issues with finances, family, employment, temper, etc.

From link given above:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bob-basharas-other-woman-gives-key-testimony/29150470

Prosecutor: "Did (Bob) have any issues?"

Gillett: "Yes ... erectile dysfunction."



Shocked Embarassed affraid awe
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Post by CuriousPortlander Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:41 pm

Freckles wrote:Confused.
Are cameras allowed in the court?
What is the media ruling for this case?

Got to admit, this did crack me up!
I am sure the state was asking if BB had issues with finances, family, employment, temper, etc.

From link given above:
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bob-basharas-other-woman-gives-key-testimony/29150470

Prosecutor: "Did (Bob) have any issues?"

Gillett: "Yes ... erectile dysfunction."



Shocked  Embarassed  affraid  awe

The judge said no live streaming; she didn't say no video recordings... bounce

What's even funnier, Freckles, is that one of the reporters sent a tweet saying this:


George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN  ·  6h 6 hours ago

Lindsey: "Has his erectile dysfunction resolve itself?"
Rachel: "No.
Lindsey "So he was still..."
Judge: "Let's move on."

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Post by Freckles Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:39 pm

Rachel running from her own culpability:

" George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 18m 18 minutes ago

“Obedient slave” (Therese Giffon) told Rachel in a Feb. 12, 2012 IM that she should blog a rumor that Jane had a boyfriend.
#BobBashara"

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN
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Post by Freckles Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:41 pm

George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 29m 29 minutes ago

Rachel and Bob became concerned because her blog posts were showing up on the website The Hinky Meter.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN
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Post by Freckles Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:45 pm

George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 53m 53 minutes ago

Rachel on #BobBashara : "He just wouldn't leave me alone."

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN

And SHE did not quit on the man she was milking!!!
Wow. She can sure tolerate a lot when BB was going to GIFT her a house, had been giving her a place to sleep, was paying her rent....
Every time they supposedly broke up, she went back AFTER he had gifted more items and services to HER. The mouse is doing a good job keeping the cat interested...
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Post by Freckles Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:50 pm


George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Rachel says she just wanted a take-charge man, not all the whips and chains. But #BobBashara wanted to immerse himself in that lifestyle.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN

This is a lie! SHE hooked up with HIM on an alternative lifestyle site! She was already into this!!!

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Post by Freckles Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:59 pm


George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 5h 5 hours ago

When Rachel said she once drove Jane’s car, the judge asked: “So you slept in this woman’s bed, and now you’re driving her car?”

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN


She is a scumbag!
They have earned each other!!!
Faking she is concerned and hopes Jane and BB are going to counseling is such a crock...
She wanted BB because she envisioned a lifestyle of ease.... for that is what she thot Jane had!
She COVETED bb.
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Post by Weeziethm Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:13 pm

Freckles wrote: George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN  ·  29m 29 minutes ago

Rachel and Bob became concerned because her blog posts were showing up on the website The Hinky Meter.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN

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Post by CuriousPortlander Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:45 pm


Tweets/blog updates from today:


http://live.freep.com/Event/Live_Bob_Bashara_trial_Day_4

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN
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Post by CuriousPortlander Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:19 pm


Mistress says she slept at Bashara home prior to murder

4:38 p.m. EDT October 16, 2014

Rachel Gillett testifed she slept over Bob Bashara's house while his wife was away and on another occasion drove Jane Bashara's car


Bob Bashara's former mistress gave a glimpse into the Grosse Pointe Park man's lies and deception during testimony in his murder trial this morning.

Rachel Gillett calmly testified Bashara blindfolded her and another woman in 2009. They got into in a van then drove to the home where Bashara lived with his wife, Jane Bashara.

"I pretty much freaked out," she said. "I didn't want to be there."

But, she stayed and all three participated in sexual activity in Jane Bashara's bed, Gillett testified. They showered and spent the night in the home.


Read more:  http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2014/10/16/bashara-trial/17356225/
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Post by CuriousPortlander Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:40 pm

A partial trial video was uploaded here (no way to embed it here):  

http://courtchatter.tv/basharatrialday2partial.htm
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Post by justanopinion Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:30 pm

Weeziethm wrote:
Freckles wrote: George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN  ·  29m 29 minutes ago

Rachel and Bob became concerned because her blog posts were showing up on the website The Hinky Meter.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeHunter_DN

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



Love this! they must have been loosing it … reading the posts we all made. Just when I thought this case could not get any more "out there"
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Post by One Wonders Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:50 pm

Thank you CP and Freckles for the great work you are doing in keeping this thread up-dated so very well.

I just watched the clip of RG and OMG, what a flake...
Also I tend to agree Freckles that she was looking for the gravy train and it serves her right to be in the position that she is.

Rest In Peace Jane.
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Post by justanopinion Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:07 am

the news video here had some very interesting stuff… Joe Gentz refusing to testify.. a friend of Joes who has tried everything including living in her car to avoid testifying… and a bunch of other stuff…

Gabel also told the jury that Bashara looked un-kept until after Jane was murdered. When he saw Bashara on the news he was well groomed and looked like a “movie star.“ Gabel then said he was being facetious with that description, but did see a difference.

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Post by justanopinion Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:23 am

how is it possible that they have only examined phone calls on BB's phone but are now looking at text messages?? is this only for court purposes?

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/wayne-county/testimony-resumes-following-one-day-break-in-bob-basharas-murder-trial
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Post by Freckles Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:47 pm

While that would appear logical, Just, I don't think so.
Look at this taken from your link:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/wayne-county/testimony-resumes-following-one-day-break-in-bob-basharas-murder-trial


" ... There's more testimony expected from the cell phone expert including the analysis of text messages. A special hearing is set for Friday to determine what is admissible and then the jury will hear more from that expert......"

This seems to indicate the two parties have not worked out the details as to evidence, and that might be because they either have not gotten to it, or one side was withholding evidence, Perhaps, it was not available from forensics until now? As in, the State did not ask to have it sent over but delayed receipt so defense would be operating at a disadvantage?


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Post by One Wonders Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:29 pm

This link has a lot of still pictures: It give's you a better feel of what it must be like in the courtroom:

https://twitter.com/DetroitMandi
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Post by CuriousPortlander Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:31 pm


Bashara murder trial resumes, Secret Service agent says Bob lied about affair

Jim Kiertzner  11:13 AM, Oct 22, 2014  1 hour ago


Detroit Secret Service Agent Mark O’Riordan testified he did a forensic interview with Bob Bashara on January 27, 2012, just days after his wife Jane was murdered. Bob agreed to the interview and waived his Miranda Rights.

About halfway through the interview, Bashara pointed to a Rotary pin he was wearing and said, “How could I have killed my wife if I was President of the Rotary Club.”

...Leehmann was concerned about living in the marital home and Bob told her this would be their last Christmas together as a family and his family members “would have to deal with it.”  This was just weeks before Jane was killed.

Read more:  http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/bashara-murder-trial-resumes-secret-service-agent-says-bob-lied-about-affair
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Post by justanopinion Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:56 am

Freckles wrote:While that would appear logical, Just, I don't think so.
Look at this taken from your link:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/wayne-county/testimony-resumes-following-one-day-break-in-bob-basharas-murder-trial


" ... There's more testimony expected from the cell phone expert including the analysis of text messages. A special hearing is set for Friday to determine what is admissible and then the jury will hear more from that expert......"

This seems to indicate the two parties have not worked out the details as to evidence, and that might be because they either have not gotten to it, or one side was withholding evidence, Perhaps, it was not available from forensics until now? As in, the State did not ask to have it sent over but delayed receipt so defense would be operating at a disadvantage?


Thank you Freckles obviously somehow I misread that … good to see that you keep me on my toes Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 803492
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Post by CuriousPortlander Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:19 am

justanopinion wrote:
Freckles wrote:While that would appear logical, Just, I don't think so.
Look at this taken from your link:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/wayne-county/testimony-resumes-following-one-day-break-in-bob-basharas-murder-trial


" ... There's more testimony expected from the cell phone expert including the analysis of text messages. A special hearing is set for Friday to determine what is admissible and then the jury will hear more from that expert......"

This seems to indicate the two parties have not worked out the details as to evidence, and that might be because they either have not gotten to it, or one side was withholding evidence, Perhaps, it was not available from forensics until now? As in, the State did not ask to have it sent over but delayed receipt so defense would be operating at a disadvantage?


Thank  you Freckles obviously somehow I misread that … good to see that you keep me on my toes Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 803492

I believe that Friday hearing was canceled because they already resolved the issues about which emails could be shown.

George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN  ·  10h 10 hours ago

Sorry, didn't update, because I was talking to attorneys after Bob's son left the stand. We're done for the week. See you Monday!
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Post by CuriousPortlander Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:20 pm


2nd Mistress Testifies She Got A Thrashing During Sex With Bob Bashara, Accused In Wife’s Murder

October 22, 2014 4:55 PM

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DETROIT (WWJ) – A second mistress testified Wednesday that Bob Bashara gave her a beating she didn’t expect.

...Leehman said Bob Bashara bought a whip and some rope at a farm store prior to their sexual encounter, during which he failed to perform due to apparent erectile dysfunction.

She testified that it was a painful experience.

“It was awful… I wasn’t expecting what I got…a really good beating that left marks for about three months,” Leehman testified. “I got thrashed.”

...Leehman later testified that she overheard a phone conversation Bob Bashara had with a person he told her was a handyman, during which, “His voice became elevated and I heard him say, ‘What the hell is wrong with you? I want this done; I want it done now.'”


Read more:  http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/10/22/2nd-mistress-testifies-she-got-a-trashing-during-sex-with-bob-bashara-accused-in-wifes-murder/
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Post by CuriousPortlander Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:13 pm


We had open marriage, Bashara told mom of his slain wife

8:46 p.m. EDT October 27, 2014

After Bob Bashara told an interviewer that he and his late wife Jane Bashara had an "open marriage," Jane Bashara's mother made a request.

"Please don't bring Jane down to your level," Lorraine Engelbrecht told Bashara in a phone call.

The testimony came as prosecutors showed the strained relationship between Bashara and his slain wife's family. Engelbrecht said the two did not have an open marriage. She told him, "You had an open marriage," she testified Monday during Bob Bashara's trial.

...Earlier in the day, Steven Tibaudo took the stand and led the court through a recorded conversation in which Bashara tried to recruit Tibaudo to find a hit man to kill handyman Joseph Gentz.


http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2014/10/27/bashara-trial/17999259/
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Post by justanopinion Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:04 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
2nd Mistress Testifies She Got A Thrashing During Sex With Bob Bashara, Accused In Wife’s Murder

October 22, 2014 4:55 PM

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DETROIT (WWJ) – A second mistress testified Wednesday that Bob Bashara gave her a beating she didn’t expect.

...Leehman said Bob Bashara bought a whip and some rope at a farm store prior to their sexual encounter, during which he failed to perform due to apparent erectile dysfunction.

She testified that it was a painful experience.

“It was awful… I wasn’t expecting what I got…a really good beating that left marks for about three months,” Leehman testified. “I got thrashed.”

...Leehman later testified that she overheard a phone conversation Bob Bashara had with a person he told her was a handyman, during which, “His voice became elevated and I heard him say, ‘What the hell is wrong with you? I want this done; I want it done now.'”


Read more:  http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/10/22/2nd-mistress-testifies-she-got-a-trashing-during-sex-with-bob-bashara-accused-in-wifes-murder/

this comment on the bottom of that link is interesting… 15 min of fame? or another witness?? Mrs. NOK 88 • 4 days ago
I also received a thrashing from Bashara in his dungeon.
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Post by Freckles Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:36 pm

From above link:
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2014/10/27/bashara-trial/17999259/

".....Engelbrecht questioned Bashara about the lifestyle, asking if her daughter allowed "slaves and dungeons."

"He said, 'Well she didn't know anything about that,'" Engelbrecht testified...."



"Do you know what Jane told me?" Bashara said. "I can go out and do anything I want as long as it makes me happy." roflao

My comment:
Does that include murder?

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Post by Freckles Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:37 pm

Good eye, Just! newspaper
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Post by Freckles Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:51 pm

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/wayne-county/jane-basharas-sister-julie-rowe-testifies-at-bob-basharas-murder-trial


Jane Bashara's sister, Julie Rowe, testifies at Bob Bashara's murder trial
2:14 PM, Oct 28, 2014
16 mins ago

"...Just last Friday, Julie remembered that Jane told her she wanted to go into marital counseling, because, if she got a divorce, she would lose her house, half of her 401k and would be a 55-year-old divorced woman.

She told the jury that she smoked marijuana with her sister and Bob and that it was Bob who usually supplied it.

After the murder Julie was going through Jane’s things and found a notebook in which Jane wrote, “Why we fight, Bob makes plans and doesn’t tell me, can’t trust what he says.” ..."

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Post by One Wonders Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:58 am

Gina Damron @ginadamron
Judge Evans just said the #BobBashara won't go tomorrow either. The jury was told to come back Monday.


Gina Damron @ginadamron     ·  36m 36 minutes ago  
Evans said Bashara is not able to attend, so the trial will not go today. She said it's unclear whether the trial will resume this

Gina Damron @ginadamron     ·  40m 40 minutes ago  
Moran said Bashara was complaining of pain.

Gina Damron @ginadamron     ·  40m 40 minutes ago  
Assistant Prosecutor Robert Moran said Bashara collapsed in jail this morning. Judge Vonda Evans said Bashara is being evaluated by doctors.

Gina Damron @ginadamron     ·  59m 59 minutes ago  
#BobBashara scheduled to continue today. Hearing that Bashara might be ill. Stay tuned. Follow the @freep live blog: http://live.freep.com/Event/Live_blog_Bob_Bashara_trial_continues_2 …

Crying or Very sad Poor Little Baby Blob. All we can do is prey he has ebola.


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Post by CuriousPortlander Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:33 pm

Thanks for the updates, One.

Bob Bashara collapses, trial postponed until Monday
12:34 p.m. EDT October 29, 2014


The trial of Bob Bashara, charged in connection with his wife's killing, is delayed until Monday because he had a medical emergency this morning.

Assistant Wayne County Prosecutor Robert Moran said he was updated by the Wayne County Sheriff's Office that Bashara collapsed this morning and was being evaluated by doctors at the William Dickerson Detention Facility.

"The defendant is complaining of pain and doubled over," Moran said he was told.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2014/10/29/bob-bashara-collapses-trial-postponed-monday/18112111/
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Post by Freckles Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:56 pm

Would it be too much to hope his conscience got the best of him?
Yah... that is stretching it.... Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 634663 Jail


It is all a publicity stunt as well as the BIG Blob "showing" the court just who is boss! Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 3919250764

Bob is the top banana in his own show! Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 759197
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Post by CuriousPortlander Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:20 pm

Freckles wrote:Would it be too much to hope his conscience got the best of him?
Yah... that is stretching it.... Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 634663 Jail


It is all a publicity stunt as well as the BIG Blob "showing" the court just who is boss! Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 3919250764  

Bob is the top banana in his own show! Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 759197

That MIGHT only happen if he actually HAD a conscience...which we all know isn't the case.

Shades of Casey Anthony's pre-weekend migraines...
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Post by justanopinion Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:55 pm

CuriousPortlander wrote:
Freckles wrote:Would it be too much to hope his conscience got the best of him?
Yah... that is stretching it.... Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 634663 Jail


It is all a publicity stunt as well as the BIG Blob "showing" the court just who is boss! Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 3919250764  

Bob is the top banana in his own show! Robert Bashara Trial - Page 2 759197

That MIGHT only happen if he actually HAD a conscience...which we all know isn't the case.

Shades of Casey Anthony's pre-weekend migraines...


maybe he took lessons from Hodi… I have a headache.. not being given good meals… etc..
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Post by One Wonders Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:47 pm

I was watching Discovery ID last night and on Scorned, Love Kills they did this case.
A couple of things were odd to me. They had Jane as a dark haired woman. They had Jane being killed in the kitchen (the acting out in that scene was disturbing to me).
Did anyone else catch it?
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Post by Freckles Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:34 pm

Didn't see it. Seems like they were in a rush to get it out and failed to verify facts. And it would have been EASY to verify! Tells me they wanted to make a movie rather than relay info that was truthful.

Contact the station via email and let them know you were disappointed in their lack of journalistic inquiry.
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Post by One Wonders Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:00 am

That was the other thing I was going to comment on about them not waiting until the trial is done, signed, sealed and delivered. Just odd.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:16 am

Informant, ATF agent testify in Bashara trial

George Hunter, The Detroit News   3:35 p.m. EST November 4, 2014

Murder-for-hire plot and cell phone technology that contradicts Bashara's alibi likely to be discussed

Detroit — A month before Jane Bashara was murdered, the man who admitted to strangling her sent a text message about "(doing) somebody in" according to testimony Tuesday.

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Stan Brue, a Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, testified about Gentz's text message. It was not revealed who received the message.

Brue was one of three witnesses who took the stand Monday in the trial's 11th day of testimony.

Earlier in the trial, Brue testified that cell phone evidence showed Bashara and his wife were near their home when she died, and that both of their vehicles left around the same time.

The cell phone records contradict Bashara's story to police that he was at the Hard Luck Lounge, located in a building he owned on Mack, when his wife was killed.


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Post by Alessandra_Deux Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:25 am

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Robert Bashara's health in question

George Hunter, The Detroit News   8:51 p.m. EST November 3, 2014

Detroit – — The jury in the Robert Bashara murder-for-hire case heard audio Monday of the Grosse Pointe Park businessman setting up a hit on his handyman with a furniture store owner who secretly wore a wire for the FBI.

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On Monday, prosecutors played audio recorded from a device worn by furniture store owner Steve Tibaudo. After Bashara first asked him if he could have the hit on Gentz done, Tibaudo went to authorities and agreed to wear a wire.

Tibaudo was recorded telling Bashara there were several ways he could have the hit carried out on Gentz in jail, including putting glass in his salt shaker, and using a grenade launcher. He told Bashara it would cost $20,000.

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On the audio, Bashara said: "Dude, whatever it (expletive) takes. I'm trusting the hell out of you. My life's on the (expletive) line here."

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Bashara reportedly collapsed in the William Dickerson Detention Facility Wednesday morning as he prepared to be taken to court. Evans suspended the proceedings until Monday.

Bashara appeared in court Monday, and his attorney, Lillian Diallo, said he's been suffering from spasms on his right side.

"I'm OK," Bashara told Evans when the judge asked how he was doing.

Evans said Wednesday she was concerned Bashara's medical issues could cause the trial to be put on hold even longer.

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Post by Freckles Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:42 pm

Some tweets from today:


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Lorna is done. We're taking a lunch break.
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Under re-direct, she says Gentz in her car kept telling her to turn different ways to confuse her.
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Lorna tried to leave the stand. Judge: "Uh-uh, you're not done!"
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Lorna is clearly getting agitated by this questioning.
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When Lillian asked if she thought she'd ever see Getnz again, Lorna said, "I was not at no scene of any crime, ma'am." Judge cut her off.
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Diallo was reading statements Lorna made to police earlier; Lorna said her daughter had just died and she was emotional, thus doesn't recall
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Witness is getting agitated w Diallo. "I don't understand your question, ma'am." Judge told her to calm down.
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Lorna, on Gentz: "We were just pen pals." Judge: "Nothing more." Lorna: "No - thing more!"
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Lorna rejected Gentz's advances and didn't let him go home with her.
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Judge: "Did he want to go to your place or not?" Lorna (embarrassed laughter): "Your honor!"
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Under cross-exam, Lorna says Gentz just showed up at her work. Diallo said, "And he wanted to go to your place, right?" Long silence...
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Lorna Beth Riikonen files her nails as she waits for the jury to return #bobbashara pic.twitter.com/ahiTAllBj2
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Jury coming back into the jury room.
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#bobbashara just turned and scowled at someone for a long time. Don't know who. Jane's relative told me she thinks he was looking at her.
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Just noticed: Someone adjusted the courtroom clock - but they moved it up an hour, not back. So it now reads 1:55 p.m. #waynecounty
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Reporters are laughing because Lorna chugged the entire water bottle in one gulp.
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Judge to Lorna: "ARe you all right?" Lorna: "I'm okay; are you okay?"
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Meanwhile, Lorna started hacking on the stand. Lillian giving her water.
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Lindsey: "IF you're letting in evidence that's not relevant, what use can it be?" Judge again changed mind, and will not allow texts.
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Judge: "You know what? I'm just gonna let it in." Lisa wants to know why, if it's not relevant


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Post by Freckles Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:48 pm

Tweets from George Hunter on case:2/3
This came before the earlier post of mine.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Judge now says, "under the rule of completeness, I'll allow it." Lindsey: "If it's not relevant, it's not relevant."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Judge will not allow these texts. "It's just not relevant."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Gentz also texted: "I have an FBI friend"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Gentz texted to Lorna that "I had fds in high places" and "I will not let this go." This is apparently re: getting back at the drug dealer
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Actually, the break was for the jury. Lorna is back on the stand to discuss text messages, so judge can decide if the jury can hear them
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Diallo said Lindsey told her she'd be able to use that text. Judge just said that has to be determined by her. So she's calling for a break
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Gentz also texted that he had AK47s, apparently.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

From what it sounds like, that text was Gentz saying he'd get the drug dealer who sold Lorna's daughter the fatal dope that led to OD.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Gentz texted to Lorna that he would "not let this go." The judge is asking Diallo how she intends to use that text.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Gentz's mom died of alcoholism; Lorna's daughter died of a drug overdose, Lisa Lindsey just said.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Ok, jury and witness taken out of courtroom again so lawyers can discuss a text message between Lorna and Gentz.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Lorna's daughter died. She said she talked w Gentz about that.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Bob's attorney Lillian Diallo doing cross examination.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

For a murder trial, there certainly are some comical witnesses!
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Lorna Beth Riikonen gets annoyed that the court stenographer pushes the microphone closer to her during #bobbashara
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Lorna: "After Mr. Gentz said to me ‘Basher Basher,” I said, ‘I can take you to the police station; someone offer you some money like that.’"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Lorna: “After I looked on my computer…I called the police station. I saw a picture of Mr. Gentz.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Lorna learned about Jane’s death when someone called her. “I was asked a question by someone. I realized it was Joe Gentz involved.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

One juror keeps cracking up while Lorna continues thinking out loud about how tired she is, was during conversation with Gentz, etc.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

This conversation took place a month before Jane was killed.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 2h 2 hours ago

Lorna: "(Gentz) said someone had offered him money to put a hit out on somebody else...he said, 'Basher Basher.'"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna: "I'm tired today" Judge: "Ma'am, you can't say all this extra stuff." Lorna: "All right, all right." Jury is laughing now.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna talked with Joe in her car. "He said somebody had offered him some money to take someone out....to put a hit on somebody."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Jury back and so is Lorna
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge said she'll allow the statements. "There's evidence sufficient to show that there was a conspiracy. I'm satisfied." Jury coming back
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Moran: "It's our intention to admit these statements under 8033." Lillian said she'll continue her objection.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

The question is whether the jury will be allowed to hear what Gentz told Lorna about being paid to kill someone.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

When Lorna asked who he was going to kill, Gentz said, "Basher," Moran told the judge. They're now in sidebar...
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Moran arguing that Gentz's statements are admissible. He told Lorna that he was going to get a Cadillac and money to kill someone.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Jury leaving so attorneys can discuss admissibility of Gentz's state-of-mind statements. Lorna tripped as she tried to exit the stand
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna keeps laughing about various things, including the fact that it was cold the day she talked w Gentz, and then says, "It's not funny."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

In December, 2011 - a month before Jane was killed - Lorna had a conversation with Gentz.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

A couple jurors look like they're trying not to laugh while Lorna testifies.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge: "Why would you invite him to your job if you didn't like him?" Lorna: "I didn't mean that day. I thought...he would come out later."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joe had gone to the airport to see her. "He showed up at my place of work."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

When she called Joe, he told her the bus had already left, "and it was me giving him a ride back to his residence."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge: "All you talked about was foster care? You didn't talk about dating?"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge: “Why did you keep talking to Joe Gentz on the phone, and you didn’t like him?” Lorna: “We both had children in foster care.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna: "I was hoping it was a guy blowing up my phone that I liked. I was hoping it was a certain person." Instead, "It was Joe Gentz."
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Tweets: George Hunter 1/3

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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

When asked what she did at the airport: "I was only doing mediocre work...serving bagels" Judge: "You got paid for it, didn't you?"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

While Lorna was at work: “Somebody blew up my phone…they called my phone over and over and over and over and over again.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna met Gentz "one time only."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Moran showed her texts between her and Gentz in November 2011. She said she talked to Joe on phone while walking her German Shepard.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Moran is showing Lorna some documents, which she read aloud. Judge admonished her: "Don't read out loud!"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge asked what they had in common; she said they both had children in foster care.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna: "I did run into some people in my lifetime...they were bikers, and they were friends of mine." She talked to Gentz over the phone.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

"I saw his picture on my phone...and he had a leather jacket and sunglasses, and I thought he looked like a biker."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Lorna's nephew found love online, so she went on a dating service. "I was bored one night." That's how she met Gentz.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Next witness: Lorna Beth Riikonen, who knew Joe Gentz.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy Jolly is finished with her testimony.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy on her voice mail: "He's saying something about me, and how dare he do that when he's bringing a woman to my house."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy didn't know about Bob's dungeon.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

McCarthy asked if Bob was one of fundraising leaders at the high school, and charities at the Lochmoor Club. Someone behind me scoffed
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

..."the woman at the house."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy's message: “I don’t appreciate you gossiping about me. That would be like me...telling everyone you were having an affair with...
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy's daughter told her Bob was dogging her because there was clutter at her parents' house. She called him and said not to talk about her..
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Mike McCarthy doing cross exam.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy left a message at Bob's house about the other woman; Bob showed up at her house a few hours later.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy: "He was Big Bob...he was always real big."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy said Bob never introduced him to Rachel. She later called Bob's house the next morning and left a message about the other woman.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy: “I said, ‘what are you doing here, and who is this woman?’” Bob said she was from out of town, and that he was helping her.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy: "The woman kind of slunk around him...when she realized that Bob knew me, she put her head down and walked around him."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Bob was with Rachel. They were looking for their love nest.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

In Aug. 2011, Joy was selling her parents' house, and Bob showed up. "He said, 'Joy, what are you doing here?' He was with...another woman"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Jolly agreed it's an exclusive club. Also, her kids went to school with the Bashara kids at GP South High School.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge asking about the Lochmoor Club: "Is it like Fitness USA? Can anybody join?" Joy said you almost have to be male to join.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Jolly and her ex, Jim Wilson, lived in GP Shores. She met Jane at the Lochmoor; Club; they played tennis together.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Joy Jolly taking the stand now.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Jury filing in...we're about to start.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

#bobbashara moseyed into the courtroom and seemed surprised nobody was at the defense table; they were all in the back talking to the judge.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 3h 3 hours ago

Judge is here. And now she's gone.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 4h 4 hours ago

Still no judge in #bobbashara trial. She got more votes last night than any other Wayne County judge.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 4h 4 hours ago

In the #bobbashara trial. Joy Jolly to testify today. She's the ex-wife of Jim Wilson, Bob's coke/weed buddy from the golf course.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 22h 22 hours ago

Bob told dispatcher: "I went out in the garage and looked, and I didn’t see anything scattered about.” Jane was killed in the garage.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 22h 22 hours ago

Bob: “I’m very concerned. I don’t want to say anything about foul play because there’s no evidence of it.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 22h 22 hours ago

East said she could send a cop over to take a report, but Bob said no. "Why don't we just hold off; that's not gonna help us in any way."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Dispatcher called Jane's cell: “This is GPP police; we’re trying to find out where you are, ma’am. Your husband’s really worried.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Bob gave his whereabouts, said a few times he'd been at his building. Lisa Lindsey asked dispatcher if that helped locate Jane; she said no
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

East says Bob never said there were signs of forced entry, or that there were signs of foul play.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Bob: “I don’t want to panic anyone but at this point, it’s been 3 hours.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Bob: "I don’t want to overreact; maybe this is too soon to call, but my wife is not around, and she’s not answering her cell phone"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Audio of Bob reporting his wife missing is being played. He's claiming to be worried.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Grosse Pointe Park police dispatcher Jodi East now on the stand.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

After lo these many days, Steve Tibaudo is done testifying. "Nice meeting you," he said jauntily as he walked out of the courtroom.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Moran: “Does (Bob) ever complain to you that he wants Joe Gentz killed because he wants to avenge the death of his wife?”” Steve: “No.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

After discussion on the issue with my fellow journalists, I have determined that "numbnuts" is not hyphenated: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numbnuts …
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Bob stripped Steve to see if he was wearing a wire. "I gave him a shot at the jewels; then I turned around and mooned him."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Steve started to talk about EKG tests he'd had, and the judge cut him off: "That's ok."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Steve: "And he'd just had a hernia operation, so I figured he was numb down there." Lots of laughs.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Judge: "Why you call him numb-nuts anyway?" Steve: "When somebody comes to you and asks you to kill somebody you've got to get in character"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Lillian, to Steve: "Numb-nuts was your eloquent way of referring to Mr. Gentz, was it not?" Steve: "Yeah, I gotta stay in character."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

That was quick. About 40 seconds off the bench, then back in, and "Back on the record."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Judge stepped out of the courtroom for the 2nd time today. Both times she said a quick "off the record" and disappeared into chambers.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Steve referred to Joe Gentz as "numb-nuts."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Steve said he was talking to Yan, a retired trolley car mechanic.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Steve's all-time classic quote again read into the record: "You'll laugh so hard, you're gonna bust a nut."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Bob's attorney made copies of Steve's previous remarks so he and the jury can follow along.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

I'm told Steve brought cashews to court today to share. The other day it was chips.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

More Steve Tibaudo. Seems this guy has been on the witness stand for 2 weeks!
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · 23h 23 hours ago

Back from lunch. #bobbashara toddled into the courtroom, his ubiquitous brown folder under his right arm.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Brue is excused. Lunch break.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

33 minutes after talking to Bob, Gentz texted about "doing somebody in" Lisa Lindsey said.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Some of Gentz's text messages were to his buddy Steve Virgona, who convinced Gentz to confess about killing Jane, and drove him to station
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Okay, now Tibaudo will step down; calling ATF agent Stan Brue; then Tibaduo will go back onto stand. Musical chairs!
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

At around noon, the ATF agent stepped down and was asked to return in 20 minutes. That ain't gonna happen. It's already 12:48.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Lillian: "I apologize" after she asked a question. Steve: "I apologize of having that cup of coffee before I came into this courtroom."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

The judge is resting her chin on her fist. This is tough testimony to wade through. Questions answered by a cough, pause, and "I don't know"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

One juror is hanging his head and rubbing his neck. Another is looking at his lap. A third has his eyebrows raised, looking down.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Steve, on the FBI agents he dealt with: "They looked like bikers. I don't know."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Steve just revealed he gave his dog Mr. Doodles filtered water. He didn't cry when mentioning him this time.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Lillian: "Did you tell Mr. Bashara you were being recorded?" Steve: (pause): "I don't remember."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Lillian walked up to her client and put her hands on his shoulders. "This Bob here? This soft person? You had 3 guns on you."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Steve: "I asked for the wire. Because I wanted to know what Bob wanted. I thought he was going to open up my head."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Steve said he "kind of" feared for his life re: Bob. "That's why I called (prosecutors)."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Diallo, to Judge: "Will you ask this witness to stop talking while I'm talking?" Judge: "It is rude."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Diallo: "How many times have you met with police?" Steve: "Physically? I mean..." Diallo: "Whatever." Steve: "I don't know."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Diallo: "How long after you first met with prosecutors did you wear a wire?" Steve (long pause). "I don't know." Reads transcript.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Steve said he may have been at the Hard Luck Lounge the night Jane was killed. Judge asked: "What kind of place was this? A regular bar?"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

In March, April and May, 2012, Steve went to prosecutors to tell them Bob contacted him.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Steve, on Bob: "He screws everyone out of money."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

When Diallo said that Tibaudo referred to Mr. Bashara as "an asshole," some of Jane's family in the courtroom chuckled.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Tibaudo again called Lillian "hon." Judge: "Please don't refer to her as 'hon.'"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Tibaudo said of Gentz: “He worked for me for one week, but he was such a hothead. He would kick things.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

As was the case yesterday, when Bob's atty asks Steve if he recalls saying something to cops, he says he doesn't, and then reads transcripts
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

When ATF Agent Brue returns, it'll be his 3rd stint on the stand. It's difficult to follow.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

This trial has been marked by segments of testimony by various witnesses, who leave and then are re-called. This is Tibaudo's 3rd-4th stint
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Brue will be recalled in about 20 minutes to get info about a phone Gentz texted to. Steve Tibaudo will now take the stand again.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Gentz text: "I am playing with the big dog big money." Another: "I messing around with those rich people"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Back in #bobbashara trial. ATF agen still reading Gentz's text messages about various things, including moving to a "risher" neighborhood.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Gentz text on Dec. 10, 2011: "I have to watch my ass." Another Gentz message: "I do not went to die"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Dec 27, 206 pm: Gentz sent a text: “Bob I do not have any money or food in this house. I need to get some. I need $50. Can you loan me that?
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Judge: "Are you familiar with family and friends? If my daughter got a cell phone, it'll say Vonda Evans. If my dog got a cell phone (ditto)
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Judge Evans is asking a lot of questions of ATF agent to clarify details about how he does his job.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

The first phone call made on the morning of the murder from Bob’s phone was to Joe Gentz.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Another Gentz text: “They have AK47. I will let them know.” Not sure who he's texting this to; it was a phone with a 734 area code
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Joe Gentz texted on Nov. 15, 2011, at 4:36 pm: “I am getting a handgun.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

There were 297 pages of Joe Gentz's text messages, Diallo said.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

ATF Agent discussing calls by/from Bashara and Gentz
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

ATF Special Agent Stan Brue is the day's first witness. He previously testified about cell phone evidence
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

Judge Evans and jury are in the courtroom for #bobbashara trial.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 4

In court for the #bobbashara trial. Lawyers here; awaiting judge. Furniture store owner Steve Tibado and ATF agent Stan Brue to testify.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Done for the day. Full day tomorrow, despite it being Election Day
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

I've been covering Detroit police since the 1990s and I wasn't aware their evidence techs don't have Luminol!!!
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Actually, Luminol can flag potential bloodstains. I'm surprised Detroit cops aren't issued Luminol.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

DPD is not issued Luminol, which is why Babcock didn't use it when they searched the Bashara garage. Luminol detects bloodstains.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Some of the marks appear to be what a hand would make, he said.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Photo being shown of smudge marks on Jane's SUV. Looks like there was a struggle and bodies ruibbed against it, Babcock said
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

"It looked to me...as if something had been rubbing up against this vehicle."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Babcock: "What caught my interest is the left-hand side (of the SUV) had a lot of smearing and smudges."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Babcock processed Jane's Mercedes SUV
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Babcock is an evidence tech. He's a 39-year veteran of that unit.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Day's 2nd witness: Detroit cop David Babcock. When asked how long he's worked there, he said 45 years, xx months, 17 days. Everyone laughed
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve Tibaudo will return tomorrow.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Judge: "We're going to take another witness out of order." That will allow Diallo to get this transcript/audio issue in order.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve: "Which Joe you talking about? Joe Pinicia or Joe Gentz?" Lillian: "Pick one." Steve asked for a break.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

This is some tedious cross examination. Lots of "I don't remembers" and objections.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Bob to Steve: "You think I'm going to do something like that? The mother of my children?" Called Gentz a "f**king idiot."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

It's been like this for more than a half-hour: Lillian asks a question; Steve doesn't remember; Steve drops glasses and reads transcript
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Diallo: "You remember the conversation going back to Joe Gentz?" Steve: (clears throat). "It may have." So now he's reading a transcript.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve introduced Bob to Joe Gentz.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Lillian: "Mr. Bashara said, 'Watch: Joe's going to plead down to 2nd degree murder.' Do you remember that?" Long silence.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

This is difficult. Every time Diallo asks Steve if he remembers saying something, he furrows his brow and says "I don't remember."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Okay, we're going to skip the audio Diallo was trying to discuss, and address it later.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

That drive, and the recorded burps, farts, coughs and songs, was the subject of discussion during a lunchtime elevator trip today
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Bob cut his finger off in college. Slammed it in the door in 1979. Said he got $19k for that.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve: "I've got a guy who's a crazy mother_xxxer"
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve guaranteed Bob if his "guy" couldn't kill Gentz, "you'll get your money back."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Bob is telling Steve detectives from the Iverson Agency came to his house....Gentz's people.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Bob told Steve how much $$ could be made on the building, but didn't mention the surprise in the basement.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

On the audio, Bob is trying to sell Steve the building which housed Dylan's, Hard Luck Lounge - and, in the basement, the sex dungeon.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Tibaudo was apparently quite attached to Mr. Doodles, or Scrappy as he called him. I can relate; I love my basset hounds!!!
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Oh no! On the audio, Steve is talking about his dog, and on the stand he hung his head. Everyone's necks craning to see if he'll break down
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve said he could take Gentz out by putting glass in his salt shaker, or using a grenade launcher."I pretended I was DeNiro in Goodfellas'
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Sounds like Bob also had gall bladder problems, too. Add that to diabetes, skin condition, and right-side convulsions. And ED.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Audio of Bob and Steve now being played. They're discussing health issues. Bob: "Every time I ate it hurt like hell."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve said his performance was "a little DeNro, a little Nicholson and a little Leonardo DiCaprio.”
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Judge asked if he was making up ways to kill Gentz as he went along, and Tibaudo said: “You sort of have to wing it..."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve told Bob he could put someone in the jail with Gentz to kill him, put glass in a salt shaker. Cost for hit: $20k
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve: "He wanted to know if I could get to Joe Gentz. Take him out; kill him."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

#bobbashara asked Steve if he was wearing a wire, and said if he was, "Shoot me now." Bob then patted him down.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Steve Tibaudo, the furniture store guy, is resuming his testimony.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Judge: "Your safety and health is paramount." She also said #bobbashara may have to go to the hospital on the 10th.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

Judge told #bobbashara if he needs a break, to tell the court. His attorney said he's having spasms on his right side.
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

#bobbashara just waddled into the courtroom and shot a glance at Jane's family. Judge: "Mr. Bashara, how you doing today?" Bob: "I'm ok."
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George Hunter @GeorgeHunter_DN · Nov 3

In court for the #bobbashara trial. His attorneys say we will have proceedings today, which means Bob is better after collapsing last week
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Thanks for all the tweets, Freckles!
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Post by CuriousPortlander Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:03 am


Witness: Gentz told her someone was paying him to kill

George Hunter, The Detroit News 11:49 p.m. EST November 5, 2014


Detroit – — A bagel shop employee said Wednesday at the Robert Bashara murder-for-hire trial that a handyman whom she had met on a dating site told her he had been paid to kill someone.

Lorna Beth Riikonen testified she and Joseph Gentz talked on the phone a few times three years ago before he showed up at her workplace, an Einstein's Bagel outlet at Detroit Metro Airport.

Gentz needed a ride home, she said, so Riikonen agreed to give him a lift. While in the car, he told her someone had paid him to commit murder.

When she asked who the targeted victim was, Gentz said: "Basher Basher."

...Real estate agent Kathy Young testified Wednesday she showed Bashara and Gillett 15-20 houses. While touring one home, Young said Bashara made an unusual comment.

"There was a room in the basement of the house on Bishop," she said. "When we opened the door Bob said, 'this would make a great punishment room.' "

Read more:  http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2014/11/05/robert-bashara-murder-trial/18526773/
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:08 pm

Investigator: Bob Bashara was not cooperative

By Gina Damron and Elisha Anderson Detroit Free Press Staff Writers    9:34 p.m. EST November 6, 2014

Interviewing Bob Bashara a day after his wife was found strangled, an investigator suggested to the Grosse Pointe Park business man: maybe he and his wife didn't know everything about each other.

"I'm sure there's something out there she's done, probably a lot of things that, you know, you may not know about and vice-a-versa," Detroit police homicide investigator Donald Olsen said.

"There's not a lot of secrets and a lot of things we hide," Bashara said.

~Snipped~

Despite the statement to Olsen, the prosecution has said Bashara had a number of secrets: a secret mistress, a secret lifestyle in BDSM (bondage, discipline, sadomasochism), a secret sex dungeon and a secret desire to start a new life.

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http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2014/11/06/bashara-trial-murder-scene-staged/18594853/
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Testimony in Bashara's murder trial focuses on Bob's reaction to wife's murder (Video)

By: Jim Kiertzner
Posted: 12:01 PM, Nov 6, 2014
Updated: 5 hours ago


DETROIT (WXYZ) - The jury in the Bob Bashara murder trial is getting two different views of Bob when he was told his wife Jane was murdered in January of 2012.

Detroit Police Detective Donald Olsen testified there was “not a lot of reaction or emotion” when he and other police officers made the death notification at Bashara’s Grosse Pointe Park home.

But the prosecutor then played a TV news clip from that same day in which Bob said he “fell to his knees and was grieving.”

Detective Olsen testified that “was not what I saw.”

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http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/testimony-in-basharas-murder-trial-focuses-on-bobs-reaction-to-wifes-murder
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Homicide detective takes stand in Bashara trial  

WJBK | FOX 2 News Detroit  

Published on Nov 6, 2014
The Bob Bashara murder trial continued Thursday with testimony from a detective and footage of Bashara from 2012 after learning his wife Jane was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPQ_XryUT8#action=share
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Investigator: Bashara didn't cry when told about wife

Gina Damron, Detroit Free Press Staff Writer 6:57 p.m. EST November 7, 2014


The investigator told jurors that when he delivers the bad news that a person has been found dead, the reaction of loved ones is usually the same: they cry, get upset, say things like "this can't be, you're wrong."

Detroit homicide investigator Donald Olsen testified that when he delivered the news to Bob Bashara that his wife's body had been found, there wasn't much reaction.

...The trial resumes Tuesday.


Read more:  http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2014/11/07/investigator-testifies-bashara-trial/18673863/
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Post by CuriousPortlander Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:49 pm


Woman admits to lying for, about Bashara, his dead wife



A former Chicago police officer who said she met Bob Bashara over a web site testified Tuesday she tried to tarnish Jane Bashara’s name and lied for and about him following his wife’s murder.

Therese Giffin took the stand in Bashara’s murder trial and said that, at Bashara’s request, she posted a blog on the web site, thehinkymeter.com, to taint Jane Bashara’s reputation in order to steer police away from his as a suspect in her death.

In damaging testimony, Giffen said Bashara wanted “posts kind of like making Jane not look so good, that she could’ve possibly had a boyfriend who would’ve done it. It would have made them (police) look in another direction, not him.”


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