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Andrea Lyon Calls Jurors "Killers"
Casey's Death Penalty Attorney Calls Jurors "Killers"
Posted: 1:59 pm EST November 23, 2009
Updated: 4:55 pm EST November 23, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Andrea Lyon is on Casey Anthony’s defense dream team and she's supposed to be the expert on the death penalty. Eyewitness News obtained an audiotape of Andrea Lyon bashing judges, female prosecutors, victim's advocates and even calling jurors “killers.” Lyon made the comments at a conference in Orlando before she joined Casey's defense team.
Casey's lawyer Jose Baez wasn't qualified to handle a death penalty case himself, so he hired Andrea Lyon, a Chicago death penalty expert who calls herself a “pioneer in the field.” Andrea Lyon also calls herself a “genius, legendary” and says her intelligence is superior to jurors’ intelligence.
LAWYER'S LECTURE: Part 1 | Part 2
BILL SHEAFFER: Talks About Lyon's Comments
In the audiotape that Eyewitness News obtained of Andrea Lyon lecturing local lawyers in 2008, she bragged about being thrown out of courtrooms. Lyon said judges are only worried about voters and called them “ugly.”
“Sometimes ugly is presiding. Or do you have great judges in Florida?” Lyon questioned in the recording.
Also on the tape, Lyon called jurors, “killers.”
“You can give the killers on your jury, and there are some, the ammunition they need to go after people,” Lyons said.
She called victims' advocates awful, and worse, for interfering with her efforts to make inroads with a murder victim's relative.
“They figured out I was talking to her and that my client's mother was talking to her and they didn't like that so they sent one of these victim witness’ little b**ches up there,” she said.
Lyon also made a very crude comment about female prosecutors and their femininity, after calling them uncivilized.
“I actually will take them aside and say, ‘I'm one of the pioneers and you're embarrassing me by your behavior,’” Lyon stated.
She described one of her former jurors as a mean librarian and an elderly juror as a "blue hair."
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer calls her comments outrageous.
“It's certainly not something that a true professional whether you're defense or prosecutor really tries to do,” Sheaffer said.
Lyon’s lecture last year could shed light on how she will approach Casey Anthony's death penalty case. She tells lawyers to get emotional to make jurors feel guilty and to make up theories.
http://www.wftv.com/news/21700894/detail.html
Posted: 1:59 pm EST November 23, 2009
Updated: 4:55 pm EST November 23, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Andrea Lyon is on Casey Anthony’s defense dream team and she's supposed to be the expert on the death penalty. Eyewitness News obtained an audiotape of Andrea Lyon bashing judges, female prosecutors, victim's advocates and even calling jurors “killers.” Lyon made the comments at a conference in Orlando before she joined Casey's defense team.
Casey's lawyer Jose Baez wasn't qualified to handle a death penalty case himself, so he hired Andrea Lyon, a Chicago death penalty expert who calls herself a “pioneer in the field.” Andrea Lyon also calls herself a “genius, legendary” and says her intelligence is superior to jurors’ intelligence.
LAWYER'S LECTURE: Part 1 | Part 2
BILL SHEAFFER: Talks About Lyon's Comments
In the audiotape that Eyewitness News obtained of Andrea Lyon lecturing local lawyers in 2008, she bragged about being thrown out of courtrooms. Lyon said judges are only worried about voters and called them “ugly.”
“Sometimes ugly is presiding. Or do you have great judges in Florida?” Lyon questioned in the recording.
Also on the tape, Lyon called jurors, “killers.”
“You can give the killers on your jury, and there are some, the ammunition they need to go after people,” Lyons said.
She called victims' advocates awful, and worse, for interfering with her efforts to make inroads with a murder victim's relative.
“They figured out I was talking to her and that my client's mother was talking to her and they didn't like that so they sent one of these victim witness’ little b**ches up there,” she said.
Lyon also made a very crude comment about female prosecutors and their femininity, after calling them uncivilized.
“I actually will take them aside and say, ‘I'm one of the pioneers and you're embarrassing me by your behavior,’” Lyon stated.
She described one of her former jurors as a mean librarian and an elderly juror as a "blue hair."
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer calls her comments outrageous.
“It's certainly not something that a true professional whether you're defense or prosecutor really tries to do,” Sheaffer said.
Lyon’s lecture last year could shed light on how she will approach Casey Anthony's death penalty case. She tells lawyers to get emotional to make jurors feel guilty and to make up theories.
http://www.wftv.com/news/21700894/detail.html
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okay.. what a wench...
she fits in well with the rest of the "scheme team"..
look on the bright side, the jury will hate her.. and that is NOT a bad thing for the defense.
she fits in well with the rest of the "scheme team"..
look on the bright side, the jury will hate her.. and that is NOT a bad thing for the defense.
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FYI.... this article is no longer available..... me thinks AL must have objected......
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In case you missed Andrea Lyon's talk, it has been removed from the news websites, but here it is from youtube:
Part 1:
Part 2:
Part 1:
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This could be the reason why the article has disappeared from public viewing:
OMG! Bill – You did not do what I think you did?
(snipped)
And I know this about the materials, they are only sold to defense attorneys (no media, no prosecutors, no open records laws available) and any member who distributes them violates the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers by-laws. I believe an attendee also violate a separate oath they execute when they sign up for the seminar that they will not distribute the materials (this oath is for non FACDL members). And the reason for both these policies is fear that exactly what happened – someone like Belich will report on them out of context – doesn’t happen.
So not only does this undermine confidence that people can engage in a free discourse of ideas at the criminal defense seminars – it discourages other quality speakers from being willing to speak at such seminars in the future.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/11/24/omg-bill-you-did-not-do-what-i-think-you-did/
OMG! Bill – You did not do what I think you did?
(snipped)
And I know this about the materials, they are only sold to defense attorneys (no media, no prosecutors, no open records laws available) and any member who distributes them violates the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers by-laws. I believe an attendee also violate a separate oath they execute when they sign up for the seminar that they will not distribute the materials (this oath is for non FACDL members). And the reason for both these policies is fear that exactly what happened – someone like Belich will report on them out of context – doesn’t happen.
So not only does this undermine confidence that people can engage in a free discourse of ideas at the criminal defense seminars – it discourages other quality speakers from being willing to speak at such seminars in the future.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/11/24/omg-bill-you-did-not-do-what-i-think-you-did/
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criminal defense seminars... nothing more than a bunch of high paid crooks.. discussing ways to screw the system AND justice at the same time... how do these people sleep at night..???
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My guess is sleeping pills. I hope Bill S. is not in trouble! I said something nice about Hornesby the other day, I take it back.
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Does anyone know how the audio tape of Lyon was truly obtained?
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If you believe Hornsby, he said BS got it and gave it to KB....I certainly hope if this true it doesn't affect Mr. Sheaffer's legal standing....I just have a hunch it was a put up deal...
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Correct, Estee, RH says he verified... I asked him to prove that BS was the "guilty" party and he said he couldn't reveal his source..... hahaha.
I don't believe it will hurt Bill's legal standing, as the group is just a local group apparently. FACDL....I think it is the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.... It is not the Florida Bar.
Anyway, he has taken a lot of flack over his remarks, but he is still standing by his words.
And I still think he is a pompous a$$.
I don't believe it will hurt Bill's legal standing, as the group is just a local group apparently. FACDL....I think it is the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.... It is not the Florida Bar.
Anyway, he has taken a lot of flack over his remarks, but he is still standing by his words.
And I still think he is a pompous a$$.
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Besides, as far as I am concerned, KB did the public a HUGE service by releasing the tapes. We confirmed what we all already knew AL is really like. She only cares about the win... at any cost.
And her inappropriate comments about female prosecutors and their strap-___... Very tacky. You would think AL would know that in this day and age you don't SAY or DO anything you don't want to end up on the internet.... but maybe she is one of those "technology challenged" experts JB was talking about.... Haha!!
And her inappropriate comments about female prosecutors and their strap-___... Very tacky. You would think AL would know that in this day and age you don't SAY or DO anything you don't want to end up on the internet.... but maybe she is one of those "technology challenged" experts JB was talking about.... Haha!!
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She better watch out...she sounded a bit homophobic...Someone could get her for being prejudiced...I thought it was tacky as well...she should keep- some of her thoughts to herself...I don't care what RH says...I didn't even know he was a lawyer...I'd pick Mr. Bill over him any day...he's not a loose cannon...
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What a nasty and mean-evil-tempered excuse for a human being. Is FACDL an acronym for Fat-Assed Crooked Defense Leeches?
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Hahaha!!! Cali.... you're killing me!!
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I think AL knows Casey will be found guilty and her job is only to persuade the jury to not "kill" Casey.
I am glad the tapes were released, what an insight.
I am glad the tapes were released, what an insight.
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