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Post by Justice4all Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:28 am

I never really thought about that. I will probably post it here and ask everybody's opinion on whether it is worth sending to the prosecutor.
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Post by randilynn Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:10 pm

be careful J4a... you are now a "friend" of ZFG (the real one) and are now open for probing by the defense.

as a "friend" of ZFG, you could be responsible for caylee's death, like everyone else on the planet other than KC.

dont worry, if you come up missing, we will come looking for you.

i, for the record, still believe it is the defense that logged onto this site (page,whatev)... now, essentially, you are a friend of baez himself. congrats.. you are a member of the scheme team.. LMAO!!!
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Post by Julie Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:28 pm

Randilynn, lol, I was going to tell him to watch out for that bus that they keep throwing innocent people under.

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Post by Dis Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:38 pm

That's funny randi!!!! J4A is on the dream-on team! NEVER!!!!!!
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Post by sitemama Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:14 pm

Randi, I have been meaning to ask you: Is the bus, everyone is being thrown under, your short bus?
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Post by FystyAngel Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:43 pm

Don't worry J4A...I'll pull you out from under that bus. We NEED you here! Very Happy
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Post by Justice4all Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:52 pm

randilynn wrote:be careful J4a... you are now a "friend" of ZFG (the real one) and are now open for probing by the defense.

as a "friend" of ZFG, you could be responsible for caylee's death, like everyone else on the planet other than KC.

dont worry, if you come up missing, we will come looking for you.

i, for the record, still believe it is the defense that logged onto this site (page,whatev)... now, essentially, you are a friend of baez himself. congrats.. you are a member of the scheme team.. LMAO!!!
Don't worry, I will never join Team Bozo. The fairyland that Bozo always talks about is in Casey's mind, and that is where I think this Myspace Zenaida came from.

Thanks for all your offers to pull me out from under the bus. I think Bozo would throw the Tooth Fairy under the bus if he could get away with it.
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Post by sitemama Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:55 pm

What about Santa Claus?
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Post by Justice4all Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:09 pm

I think Bozo's motion to charge Santa Claus with the murder has already been denied.
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Post by FystyAngel Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:10 pm

Justice4all wrote:I think Bozo's motion to charge Santa Claus with the murder has already been denied.


roflao
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Post by Dis Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:22 am

FystyAngel wrote:
Justice4all wrote:I think Bozo's motion to charge Santa Claus with the murder has already been denied.


roflao


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I'll alert the media! I'm cracking up over here!! lol!
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Post by randilynn Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:13 pm

ya'll are CRACKING me up in here..

thanks J4a.. by the way, i was in need of a good laugh.

i think i may have peed a little.. better go check.. LMAO!
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Post by Dis Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:17 pm

Merry Christmas randilynn!!!!

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Post by Snaz Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:05 am

An Update on the zenaida myspace.

Posted on January 10th, 2010 by Valhall

The zenaida myspace was just logged into. The profile has been changed to read “zenaida debesa” under the display name. I am concluding this myspace was not created by Casey Anthony.

http://www.myspace.com/389838213


Read the rest:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=267
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Post by Justice4all Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:41 am

I won't conclude that until after the trial. When I first read about this profile, there wasn't a link to it and I found it by searching Myspace for Zenaida Gonzalez with a Miami zip code.
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Post by Julie Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:59 am

Strange, that this would be yet another "coincidence" in this case.
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Post by Snaz Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:34 am

I, personally, am not convinced that someone didn't access this account FOR KC, knowing all the speculation there has been that KC set it up, in order to throw off the scent from her..... GA, CA, LA, Mallory, her mother.... could have been one of lots of people. I also wouldn't put it past any one of the defense team to have someone access it, either.

I, too, J4A, will wait for trial to make a decision.......
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Post by Sherry Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:49 am

Hope you don't mind that I relayed this info on Dave's thread about the MySpace page.

(I said nothing about J4A's comment as it isn't my place. But I wanted to!lol)
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Post by Snaz Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:13 pm

awaiting justice wrote:I dont know much about the mechanics of how Myspace or any of the netweorking places like fb for eg. work...

Is it possible to look at the profile of the person who started in on Jun 16 ..?

I see aboue that someone says that the account has just become actuve again uner a diff last name ??? Are there screen shots of what was there before..

Also has anyone noticed that this "new" Zenaida has 1 pic and its a pic of "Dora"... I missed this whole thread and the events about it..

It helps prove more premeditation, IMO ...as if in a million years it was anyoine other than KC or her family...

Also, not sure that IP address wud be traceable as whoever set up the account wud have prolly been on a tor or hidden IP wudnt you think??? Also, we do know that it has been said by many that KC is good with the computer.. I wonder if this is the "secret defense that JB pronmises will explain everything.... I cant see that LE arent on this and I suspect they have been from day one...

BBM

AJ, here's a screenshot of the zenaida myspace page before it was accessed and changed on January 10.

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Post by Snaz Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:27 pm

This is a post by Valhall at Websleuths from back in March..... you may find it of interest. At the time this was written, the last access to the myspace page had been October 14, 2008, a screenshot of which I posted above.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3391274&postcount=10

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Look at this myspace account:

http://www.myspace.com/389838213

It was created on 06/16/08 - the last day Caylee was seen alive. It was last accessed on 10/14/08 - the day the grand jury indicted KC for murder and she was returned to jail for the last time.

Sign - Pisces. (KC's birthday is 3/19)

Location: Miami, FL (KC kept emphasizing to LA - "definitely Miami" as a place to look for ZG)

Pic: Dora the Explorer doll

What's significant about Dora? The evidence found at the scene of the remains states a backpack with "adorable" was found. That's a Dora the Explorer aDORAble backpack...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dora-The-Explorer-Adorable-Backpack/dp/B000NWGANQ

GA stated the last time he saw Caylee he thought she had a white backpack on with "monkeys" on it. Maybe it was white...maybe it was pink. But that aDORAble backpack has Dora's monkey on it.

A small plastic toy horse was found with the remains.

Pick which Dora pony you'd like to have:

http://www.fisher-price.com/fp.aspx?st=8640&e=ponies

It has been rumored that one of the reasons for the immediate search of the Anthony home after the remains were found was to match two items found at the crime scene that appeared to come from a set: the Winnie the Pooh blanket (Caylee's room and bed have Winnie the Pooh decorations and accessories) and "the set" from which the horse came from. Were they looking for the Dora doll?

Was KC doing activities on this myspace while she was hanging out at JB's office all day every day during her home confinement period? Was there more information on this page prior to her indictment and return to jail on 10/14? Did she wipe everything clean as her last activity on this myspace? The only way LE could find that out would be to confiscate computers in JB's office, or get a subpoena from myspace for this account and match it back to JB's IP.
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Post by Justice4all Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:34 pm

I looked at the picture in full size, made my screen resolution smaller so the picture would be bigger, then zoomed in and I think the URL in the picture is http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=389838213
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Post by randilynn Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:00 pm

okay.. i will be the 1st to admit my ignorance on the myspace thing, but here is my question...

IF the last name of this mysterious ZFG has just been recently changed on the page.. could this be an effort from the scheme team to hide the fact that KC tried to set up a patsy myspace for ZFG on the LAST DAY caylee was seen alive??

maybe they see the significance of all this, and are trying to conceal its connections to KC... IF LE looks at this page now, there is no connection, the last name is not even gonzalez... see my point, there would be NO reason to trace the creation of this page, the point would be moot...

BUT.. before the change, this page was visual proof of premeditation, she created this page (KC) to prove the existance of her ficticious nanny, thinking it would be proof enough when she batted her eyes at the detectives... when it obviously backfired, scheme team decided it HAD to go... and changed the last name as to not draw any more attention... HMM..

i am confused.. i should have paid more attention when my daughter tried to explain myspace/facebook!!!
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Post by Justice4all Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:06 pm

Sherry wrote:Hope you don't mind that I relayed this info on Dave's thread about the MySpace page.

(I said nothing about J4A's comment as it isn't my place. But I wanted to!lol)
I don't mind if you say something. I have to go to work soon and don't have time to go over there and read or comment right now.
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Post by Snaz Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:27 pm

randilynn wrote:okay.. i will be the 1st to admit my ignorance on the myspace thing, but here is my question...

IF the last name of this mysterious ZFG has just been recently changed on the page.. could this be an effort from the scheme team to hide the fact that KC tried to set up a patsy myspace for ZFG on the LAST DAY caylee was seen alive??

maybe they see the significance of all this, and are trying to conceal its connections to KC... IF LE looks at this page now, there is no connection, the last name is not even gonzalez... see my point, there would be NO reason to trace the creation of this page, the point would be moot...

BUT.. before the change, this page was visual proof of premeditation, she created this page (KC) to prove the existance of her ficticious nanny, thinking it would be proof enough when she batted her eyes at the detectives... when it obviously backfired, scheme team decided it HAD to go... and changed the last name as to not draw any more attention... HMM..

i am confused.. i should have paid more attention when my daughter tried to explain myspace/facebook!!!

Randi, that's exactly what I was saying.... I think someone on the defense team has something to do with this latest access.......
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Post by Julie Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:01 am

Snaz & Randi-like I said another "coincidence"? I think not. Too many of them.
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Post by FystyAngel Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:15 am

Just another FYI...The page was yet again accessed 01/11/2010. YESTERDAY!
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Post by randilynn Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:11 pm

hmmm... i didnt know about the searches on how to hide a myspace blog...


good info... ya'll are real sleuths up in here... and to think.. i must just be one of those bloggers seeking my 15 minutes of fame...
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Post by Justice4all Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:20 pm

If Casey didn’t create the page I think it was a hoax to make it look like she did. However, the only way I believe it could be a hoax is if somebody looked through the accounts created on June 16, found one that wasn’t actively being used, hacked into it, changed the password, changed the name to Zenaida Gonzalez, and before December, stopped logging in the day Casey went to jail for the last time. That scenario doesn’t seem likely though because the only way you can change the email address on your Myspace account is to click a link in a confirmation email that comes to the current email address on the account, or by sending Myspace a picture of yourself holding a piece of paper with your friend ID.

The Myspace might have nothing to do with the case, but there are a lot of coincidences. If it was created by Casey, it might not have been released in discovery because LE didn't think it was worth looking into or because it is considered too damaging to be released to the public before the trial.
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Post by Justice4all Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:01 pm

awaiting justice wrote:The main question i was looking for was to see if it is possible at all to change the join date.
A Myspace programmer could probably change it, but there is no way I can think of that the average person could. Also when you join, you are assigned a numerical friend ID. People who join after you will have higher friend IDs. According to one of the posts by Valhall that I read, the Zenaida friend ID is close numerically to several other profiles that were created on June 16.

As for the rest of your questions, I'll try to explain the mechanics of Myspace a little more here and I hope I don't confuse anybody. When you create a Myspace account, you must choose a display name, a first name, and a last name. The display name always shows, but it is optional on whether you want to show your first and last name.

I could change my display name to Zenaida if I wanted to, but if you use a first and last name in a friend search at the following link, http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.friendfinder , only people with that first and last name will come up in the results. If my display name was Zenaida, my first name was Mike, my last name was Jones, and you searched for Mike Johnson, I wouldn't come up in the search results. If you searched for Mike Jones, my profile would come up with Zenaida as the display name.

A few months ago when I searched http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.friendfinder for Zenaida Gonzalez, and then put a Miami zip code in the filter results box, the Zenaida profile that we are all talking about came up in the results. That means that the first and last name in the profile at that point in time was Zenaida Gonzalez. It no longer comes up in the results when you search for Zenaida Gonzalez because somebody has since changed the first and last name in the profile to Zenaida Debesa. They have also checked the box in account options which says "Show my full name wherever my name and photo appear on MySpace." That is why a first and last name is now showing under the display name.
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Post by Dis Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:40 pm

For some reason I remembered that the original myspace was just Zenaida. I didn't think there even was a middle name. I left that mystery to the pros like J4A and Valhall. I do think there is something funny going on J4A. I read the post about the younger kid by that name coming up in a search. I think it was at Valhall's. My daughter is 12 and she has a friend who has been on myspace since she was 11. I will not let my daughter lie just so she can be on there and I have told her that her friends' parents are irresponsible. On their profiles though, they use ages that are closer to their actual age. They start out as 14 of course because that is the age limit. It doesn't make sense that a younger child like 11 or 12 would want to be 22 if she wanted to keep up with friends. Unless it was for her to sneak around and talk to adults, and in that case we probably have another Casey....LOL

I don't think we should put this baby to bed just yet though. I still think there is more to it, and I am closer to thinking CA had something to do with it than not. By CA I mean KC but it could be the other CMA or Geo, or any of the other miscreants attached to that family and I'm sorry if that offends anyone but if someone is supporting liars and don't mind that they impeded justice then in my book they are miscreants.
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Post by Piper Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:46 pm

I still can't believe this is a hoax or another Zenaida...something is just not right.
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Post by Snaz Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:09 am

I'm gonna hold out for the trial before I discount this myspace..... I still believe it was possibly created by KC.... Especially now that J4A explained about the search for the name "Zenaida Gonzalez"...... something's hinky here... and I'm surprised Valhall would come to the conclusion so quickly that it was not created by KC.

Maybe I'm missing something, because I do not delude myself into believing that I understand all this computer stuff.....LOL
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Post by Dis Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:07 am

Sorry for the OT. I wanted to wave hello to a visitor. I think it is someone I know. Helllllloooooo visitor!!!!!!!
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Post by Estee Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:45 am

All this 'my space' stuff is Greek to me....I don't even know how to work Windows Live...and I've got it set up...Dummy me!!! The next book I buy is gonna be Computers for Dummies....Don't know why I haven't got it yet.... Zenaida Gonzalez= Casey Anthony??? MySpace - Page 2 355665
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Post by Dis Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:13 pm

Me too Estee! Zenaida Gonzalez= Casey Anthony??? MySpace - Page 2 355665
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Post by Justice4all Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:42 pm

I understand what you are saying Estee and Dis. I could visualize everybody's puzzled stares as I desperately tried to write my last post in a way that would make sense.

Valhall replied to my post at The Hinky Meter and said that the Zenaida Myspace never came up against a Real Name search of Zenaida Gonzalez. My memory might have failed me but I could have sworn I typed Zenaida Gonzalez in the search, and then filtered the results with a Miami zip code and found the Zenaida profile. I apologize if I remembered incorrectly, but I almost always use a first and last name when I do searches on there. I need to start taking screenshots when I do this type of stuff.
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Post by Justice4all Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:53 pm

awaiting justice wrote:Do you think time wud be a factor in what wud still be available to them?

Also, J4A... there are those sites of "hide your IP Tor IP???? or something like that.. Wud they stop myspace from getting the real IP, or anyhing else from the computer of origin?
AJ, I don't think time would be a factor. I would assume that Myspace keeps an extensive record of all IPs, logins, activity, and changes on each account, but I can't say for sure.

I'm not sure if Myspace can get the real IP when those "hide your IP" sites are used, but I read somewhere that law enforcement can.
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:19 pm

Well, someone certainly has access to that myspace page. It was accessed, yet again, on 01/10/2010. I am so curious as if LE is the one doing this for some reason. Not sure why they would accept J4A as a friend (no offense J4A, lol) but it doesn't appear that they have accepted anyone else since then, yet they HAVE accessed the page. Personally, I hope it IS one of the pieces of trash on the defense side. It could be yet another nail in the murderous bitches coffin.

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Post by Snaz Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:53 pm

A hack on the zenaida Myspace – UPDATE!

Posted on February 16th, 2010 by Valhall

THE HACK IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW! The last login date has just been changed BACK TO 1/10/2010!

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Let’s review the activity that has taken place on the zenaida myspace over the past 2 months.

On December 20, 2009 it was logged into for the first time since 10/14/2008 (the day Casey was indicted and taken to jail for good). In this December log-in a few friends (as far as I can tell ALL sleuthers following the Anthony case) were accepted and the mood was changed.

On January 10, 2010 it was logged into again. On this log-in the subtitle under the display name “zenaida” was entered and now shows as “zenaida debesa”. As far as I know none of the friends who had previously been added were ever communicated with by the person accessing this account, nor were there any replies made in comments left by those new added friends. I even did an update at 9:57 pm on January 10, 2010 to the An Update on the zenaida myspace article when I found the account had been logged into on that date.

The “Last Login” date has remained 1/10/2010 since that last log-in…until now. It appears some one has intentionally changed the “Last Login” date to now read 1/11/2010, and has done so only in recent days. If you go to the “View All Blog Entries” link of the myspace you will see, on the left hand side, that the “Last Updated” date continues to read 1/10/2010. I have been checking this myspace weekly and the “Last Login” date has been 1/10/2010 up until this week. This appears to be a hack on the myspace. If there is anyone out there who has also been monitoring this page who knows the exact date this “Last Login” date was changed, I would appreciate hearing from you either by comment or email.

This myspace continues to kerflunkel me.

Valhall.


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Post by NoseyDiana Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:03 pm

She is one of my "friends" tho I see nothing different than any of you. I don't even remember requesting friendship but I must have months ago.

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Post by NoseyDiana Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:07 pm

Oh wait... something is strange. I see her listed on my friends list but there are no friends listed on her profile? I admit that I am not a huge myspace user... is there a way to hide your friends?

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Post by Snaz Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:08 pm

Welcome, NoseyDiana!!

So Zenaida is one of your myspace friends? That's very interesting.
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Post by Snaz Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:10 pm

NoseyDiana wrote:Oh wait... something is strange. I see her listed on my friends list but there are no friends listed on her profile? I admit that I am not a huge myspace user... is there a way to hide your friends?

NoseyDiana, I was told she deleted all her friends except the ever-friendly Tom...... so I guess that may be what she did...
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Post by NoseyDiana Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:21 pm

I agree. I don't even remember requeting friendship.

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Post by NoseyDiana Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:23 pm

Snaz wrote:
NoseyDiana wrote:Oh wait... something is strange. I see her listed on my friends list but there are no friends listed on her profile? I admit that I am not a huge myspace user... is there a way to hide your friends?

NoseyDiana, I was told she deleted all her friends except the ever-friendly Tom...... so I guess that may be what she did...

No, I still see her on my friends list and Bond JamesBond shows her on his friends list. Somehow all her friends are hidden. I just left her a comment on her board...

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Post by NoseyDiana Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:30 pm

Thank you for the welcome, by the way! :)

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Post by Justice4all Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:12 pm

Welcome Diana. There are ways to hide friends on Myspace using CSS code. The weird thing is that somebody hid her friends recently even though her last login still shows up as 1/10/2010.


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Post by sitemama Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:15 pm

J4a, could she have hidden them without logging in?
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Post by Justice4all Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:39 pm

As far as I know she couldn't have hidden them without logging in. I guess it's possible that LE has control of the page or somebody who works for Myspace has been messing around the whole time. The creation date of June 16, 2008 along with the fact that the last login until December was the day Casey went to jail for the last time is too much of a coincidence for me.
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