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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:53 pm

Justice for Haleigh...

I was looking for an old article regarding Tommy, I came across this pdf file from his arrest 1/19/10. It tells the articles that were stolen. Misty was the one to tell the police there were, what she believed, stolen items in the house, they didn't belong there were her words.

Page 5: Additional Information also states the neighbors saying that Tommy always walked up and down the streets in the middle of the night. And on page 6 it lists his entry/exit method of breaking and entering.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/01/tommy.croslin.2010.burglary.report.pdf
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Post by randilynn Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:28 pm

okay.. here is a "thought".. maybe misty was taken to the scene to identify clothing that haleigh was wearing the night she disappeared.. they found "items" and misty is the ONLY CONFIRMED person to have seen haleigh that night.

whatever the case, a homicide investigation with a 5 year old victim is just sick, i hope they catch all those responsible, and fry them!!

i still feel as though misty is responsible for the death of haleigh. she was irresponsible, did something stupid, and a precious 5 year old lost her life.

i pray that there is justice in this case, and little haleigh can RIP.
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Post by LottieM Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:53 pm

Misty may have been taken to the pier for show! Like if they put her out there on TV as if she's ratting out what she knows? To sort of scare the others? New Search for HaLeigh 04/13 - Page 4 5368
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:21 pm

The grandmother is saying Misty's story this morning was that Haleigh had a yellow rope around her neck and they had attached a brick when they dropped her in the river. She said that was from Misty's mouth to her ears......she's on NG.
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:22 pm

That's like the 3rd story........
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:24 pm

Misty had hit Haleigh on the back of the head.........I swear, I just don't know what to think of all of this. NG asked her if they had molested Haleigh, she said I don't know.......
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:27 pm

Grandma saying Tommy and Joe wrapped a rope around Haleigh's neck, tied a rock to it and dropped her in the river........she said she's the one that called the detectives and sent them to the river.......

This is Flora Hollars talking on NG...she says Misty is implicating Joe and Tommy......and Joe was the one that killed her.
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:39 pm

I have to say, Flora Hollars is being very candid about what Tommy and Misty have called to tell her. Would LE allow her to give up this information at this point in the investigation since she was the tipster?
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:59 pm

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Post by khintx Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:08 pm

Piper wrote:I have to say, Flora Hollars is being very candid about what Tommy and Misty have called to tell her. Would LE allow her to give up this information at this point in the investigation since she was the tipster?

I think she got used big time. Bet she's not on the 'world's best grandma' list anymore! What a brewd! kh
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:15 pm

I agree, kh........lawdy. Hopefully, some truth and answers are going to come of this........since they've ruled it a homicide.
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Post by khintx Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:20 pm

The really bizarre thing, Piper, is that this is their daily life! Guns, knives, alcohol, drugs, thieving, secrecy, verbal/physical abuse, CPS visits, dropping out of high school, welfare checks/food stamps and waiting for IRS returns so they can buy minutes on the phone to talk to whoever is in jail at the time (and someone always is!). This is a normal day in the life of this family!
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:25 pm

Unfortunately, it is their daily life. It continues from generation to generation. You see it everyday. Children learn from their parents. Good or bad.
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:56 pm

On JVM, I heard them not only talking about the yellow rope but also talking about the knife. Thy said Misty showed LE where the knife was thrown in. Also, it was said that Misty killed her by hitting her on the head but that Joe raped her & they got rid of her body.

Who knows what is truth or lies anymore. There have been so many stories. I just hope to God that LE came make head or tails out of this mess.

It seems VERY odd to me that not only would Tommy call grandma & tell her this KNOWING he's recorded but then for Misty to call her 15 minutes later. WTH???

I don't & won't believe any of it until LE tells what is really going on. It seems that they must know much, much more.

Poor HaLeigh. I pray that she gets justice. I was truly hoping that she was alive. Sad
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Post by Julie Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:14 pm

They should polygraph all 3 of them.
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Post by Piper Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:23 pm

Surely to god, Misty did not hit Haleigh in the head and know that Joe raped her, then went to the river and watched them rope and sink her. I just can't make myself think about this...I just don't believe it.
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Post by sitemama Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:06 pm

I am totally lost on these new updates.... I thought Misty and Tommy were telling 'what they knew about the Haley case' to get their time reduced on the drug charges.

So, they admit to being involved with killing Haleigh and disposing of her body. They did this because they knew the sentences for that would be less that the drug charges????????????

Well, folks, that is a FACT. My SIL only served 8-1/2 years for stabbing my daughter over 20 times, and kicking and beating her to death. About 2 years after he got out of prison for 'manslaughter" (which is all they found him guilty of because he admitted to be drunk and on drugs and he didn't bring a weapon in the house, he used 4 of her own kitchen knives) he was arrested for selling drugs and weapons and was sentenced to 25 years, which he only had to do 12-1/2 years. More time than he did for murder.
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Post by randilynn Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:12 pm

sitema... that is the most ludracris thing i have ever heard.. they all need their (prosecutors) freaking heads examined..

i didnt realize misty was taken to the scene A second time ... she is talking.. she is telling them SOMETHING.. SO HELP ME if they are cutting a freaking deal with her, if she really KNEW what happened to poor haleigh all this time, and never said one word about it.. i am praying for some prison justice on her little ass.

for some reason that girl makes my blood boil!! Evil or Very Mad
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Post by sitemama Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:17 pm

You know Randi, I think they should forgo any prison time and just let Ronald do what he said he would do on the 911 tapes. And then give him an award.
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Post by Estee Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:40 pm

Well I don't have any crows around here so guess I might as well have a sea-gull or two or an egret or ibis, if and when the time comes....
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:49 pm

Awe Estee, no worries. There is no way for us to know what really happened until LE lets US know what THEY know. I stuck up for her a few times myself. I'm still not convinced that we know much more than the poor angel is dead. It's too hard for us all to know WHO to believe. I think we all need to hold off on lynching until we get more details, but whomever IS involved should be hung, stones and maybe even turned over to Ron, as someone else posted. Even HE may not have clean hands in this. He DID marry Misty, afterall.

According to that article I posted, there is an ex FBI agent, turned PI, that says he's been working for Crystals mother & HE solved the case.

I did hear LE say in the press conference today that there have been NO DEALS MADE with ANYONE.
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Post by Piper Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:53 am

Haleigh's Great Grandma 'Not Giving Up'
Annette Sykes Says She Still Believes Haleigh Is Alive


POSTED: Thursday, April 15, 2010
UPDATED: 7:08 am EDT April 16, 2010

Video of Annette Sykes:
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23167900/index.html


PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Haleigh Cummings' great grandmother said despite what police say, she is holding out hope that the little girl is still alive.

On Thursday, Sheriff Jeff Hardy of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office held a press conference and said that Haleigh is most likely dead.

Annette Sykes said even though in her head, she knows Haleigh might be dead, in her heart she believes the girl will come home.

"Until they can bring me something to prove to me that she's not alive, I'll continue to believe that she is," she said.

Haleigh Cummings' great grandmother, Annette Sykes

Sykes said that what the Sheriff spoke about in the press conference is the same information he told the family earlier in the week behind closed doors.

"It's hard to hear somebody tell you your child or grandchild is dead," she said.

Misty Cummings' grandmother has publicly said who is to blame for Haleigh Cummings' death. Haleigh's family, however, said it is hard to believe much of anything anymore.

"We've heard so many lies, I don't know what to believe anymore," she said. "I can't believe anything you don't show me. Show me, just show me. Don't tell me, show me."

Sykes said she leaves the light outside her home on everyday so that Haleigh can find her way home.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23168292/detail.html
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Post by Julie Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:02 am

Found this at MD's:

Kayla// April 15, 2010 at 11:43 pm

I am Joe Overstreet sister,granddaughter of Flora Hollars..Before yall go and start beleiveing all these stories that Joe had somethingt o do with Haleigh yall need to relize who’s stories has cahnged everytime they have talk to someone..Now my Grandmother want ot get involved yall can’t beleive her either she is just out to try and get some money out of people..She is already receiveing money from alot of people in flordia that is the only reason she is talking..One mintue she willl tell Joe that she knows he didn’t do it then turn around and tell Misty and tommy the same thing..Joe is innocent,he had nothing to do with this..He was on vacation and was planned to leave on Feb. 10 2009 just as he did.. He did not just up and leave he talk to the police before he left..Misty nd Tommy and also my grandmother is crazy..Before the law beleives anything that my grandmother flora Hollars say they need to do a drug test on her to make sure she is not doped up and knows what she is talking about… She is only out to try and get a reward… She will change her story just as much as Tommy and Misty will..My brother was just in the worng place at the wrong time..He is a good guy. Tommy and Misty just thinks they will get a pled if they try and blame it on someone else..And also if Tommy made the call to my Grandmother that him and Joe had done that to Haleigh why was that phone call not recorded all the rest of them are..I would not put it pasted my grandmother to make something like that up..She is a very selfish lady that is just out for money and attention…

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/talk-to-tommy/#comment-122369
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Post by Piper Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:48 am

And it gets murkier.......thanks for posting that Julie. She makes a good point as far as the video goes. Unless LE is holding it back because of the investigation.
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Post by Piper Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:53 am

Misty's Grandma: 'Know What Happened'
Flora Hollars Said Haleigh Was Thrown In The River

POSTED: Thursday, April 15, 2010
UPDATED: 7:14 am EDT April 16, 2010


Update on previous article:

Sources confirmed to Channel 4 that two cinder blocks were pulled from the river. They said they have no information about a yellow rope. The cinder blocks, along with everything else have been sent out to be analyzed.
It is unclear if they are connected to Haleigh's case.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23167951/detail.html
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:16 am

Here is a local interview with the sheriff that I had not seen:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid42757796001?bctid=78372282001

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Post by Piper Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:50 am

kh, thanks for this video, I embedded it for you. This was very informative, I had not seen this one either. He stated they were in the middle of an intensive search and it was the right time to bring Misty to the search to show her the reality of the situation. That statement kind of tells me she didn't lead them there....jmo. Because he also said she still holds the key to some important information.

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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:05 pm

PS: That was Major Bowling. fyi. kh
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:46 pm

Jean Cesares (sp???) just saying on HLN the phone convo between Tommy and Flora confirmed by LE.
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Post by Piper Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:08 pm

Are they confirming Misty's conversation with her as well?
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:09 pm

I dunno..... but if I hear they are you know I'll post it! kh
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Post by LottieM Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:27 pm

I'm still confused over why Tommy or Joe would kill Haleigh!

One of granny's stories about Misty hitting Haleigh in the head makes the most sense to be because that very day Misty was on the phone with Ron telling him Haleigh would not go to bed and Ron (according to one of his workmates who says he overheard this) told Misty to WHIP HER until she went to bed!

I would not doubt Misty whipped her a little too much and too hard in a fit of frustration and Haleigh died! There doesn't have to be blood for a head injury to kill a person.

But there may have been blood on her clothes and blanket...as I recall they may have all washed before the 911 call was made. IIRC Misty said Haleigh peed on her blanket, but the blanket was cleaned and in the laundry basket along with the clothes Misty claimed Haleigh was last wearing.

Tommy may have come in to help her get rid of the body.

But I still somehow want to fit Ron in as being involved after Haleigh died. He's such an ASS, crystal ball he may have hit her in the head before he went to work and maybe she had a headache or something and protesting going to bed, so Misty calls Ron and tells him she's still being a little brat, he tells Misty to whip her good! Misty beats her and Haleigh finally goes on to bed and ends up dying from the head whacking Ron gave her. Misty thinks she did it so she calls Tommy to help her ditch the body and then she makes up the kidnapping story for Ron to believe. Or something crystal ball LOL
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:30 pm

Anything is possible. I still think Ron was involved. I also think it is possible that cousin joe is just a red herring that tommy and his sister threw out there... who knows, maybe the got a happy meal or something for collectively pointing there fingers at him. I just dunno tho. kh
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Post by Julie Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:33 pm

I hate to imply it, but wouldn't a grown man kill a small girl if he feared she would "talk", tell what was done to her by this man? I hope that's not the case, but it makes sense.
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Post by Piper Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:05 pm

Croslin Jr.'s attorney: He didn't make any confessions in Haleigh Cummings case

Posted: April 16, 2010 - 3:07pm


Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr.'s attorney released a statement this morning saying that he did not confess anything about Haleigh Cummings' disappearance to his grandmother.

Croslin Jr. is the brother of Misty Croslin, who reported the 5-year-old missing Feb. 10, 2009. She had been dating and living with the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, who was at work when she said Haleigh disappeared from their Satsuma home.

Croslin Jr., who is in jail on unrelated drug charges with her sister and Cummings, submitted to a lie detector test this month and later met with representatives of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, State Attorney's Office and FBI.

His attorney said Croslin Jr. then took the investigators to the Shell Harbour Road boat ramp, which became the epicenter for three days of revived searching for Cummings this week.

Croslin's grandmother, Flora Hollars, said she was responsible for the revived search after calling investigators with new details the Croslins gave her.

Jim Werter, who represents Croslin Jr., said in a news release that Croslin Jr. "did not tell Flora Hollars anything about the investigation except to have his attorney contact and meet with him."

"This is in response to latest claims by various reporting agencies that they have verified that Tommy Croslin confessed to Hollars. He did not," Werter said.

Hollars told the Times-Union in several interviews that she got a tearful phone call from Croslin Jr. Sunday night telling her that his cousin, Joseph Overstreet of Nashville, was responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, which the Sheriff's Office began calling a homicide this week.

Hollars also said that her granddaughter Misty Croslin told her that Overstreet held a knife to her throat and threatened to kill her and her family if they told that he came for Haleigh.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office confirmed this morning that Croslin Jr. spoke with Hollars recently, but declined to discuss the details of the recorded conversations. They also declined to release the conversations, citing an exemption from Florida's public records law for information related to an active criminal investigation.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-16/story/croslins-attorney-he-didnt-make-any-confessions-haleigh-cummings-case
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:09 pm

From NG site:

Misty Croslin's sister-in-law, Chelsea, breaks her silence on the Haleigh homicide investigation & takes your calls live! Don't miss it!

I have a feelin that Chelsea's gonna finger ol joe too. Lots of Croslins all chitty chatty all of a sudden- especially if it deflects attention off dear Tommy and Misty.

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Post by pi-girl Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:51 pm

These are some pictures of the area from a Retweet on my Twitter page:

(There are some pictures, then some comments, then more pictures at the bottom of the forum.)

"Please retweet to your friends and those interested in seeing the area here:" http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94620&page=8

How could they find anything that has been there for over a year?
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:08 pm

Tommy's wife is filing for a divorce per jax4news.
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Post by khintx Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:12 pm

Finally! Some class!

Posted: Friday, 16 April 2010 3:39PM

Haleigh Update: Sheffield's Attorney Issues Press Release


TJ Hart

The attorney for the mother of missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, who has been missing since February 2009 when she was taken from her home and has been the subject of a massive search, issued a press release today.

Carol A. Caldwell issued the statement to the media via email Friday afternoon stating that Crystal Sheffield and her family are cooperating with the law enforcement investigation regarding Haleigh disappearance saying that Crystal is in regular contact with the Putnam County Sheriff's Department.

Ms. Caldwell also stated in the release that Crystal and her family members do not wish to speak with the media or give any media interviews and asks that the media respect their wished for privacy at this time.
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Post by pi-girl Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:37 pm

New Details Emerge In Haleigh's Disappearance

Friday, April 16, 2010 5:19:42 PM

SATSUMA -- Misty Croslin's grandmother now says she knows what happened the night little Haleigh Cummings disappeared.

Flora Hollars said she talked to Misty Thursday and told her it was time to tell the truth.

Hollars said Misty told her she was not involved but knows what happened.

Her grandmother said she had heard rumors that Haleigh had been given OxyContin and had an accidental overdose.

She told Misty enough was enough as she wasn't raised a liar.

"Baby don't cry,” Hollars said. “This is something you should have said a long time ago. She says ‘But Nanny I was scared.’ Are you telling the police, too? She said yes I am. Tied a brick block to the rope and dropped her into the St. Johns River.”

When asked why, Misty did not tell her grandmother or give her details about a possible drug overdose.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/16/new_details_emerge_in_haleigh39s_disappearance.html
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Post by khintx Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:00 am

Sadly, the 'new' search for Haleigh seems to have come to an end with more questions than answers. kh
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Post by Justice4all Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:50 am

khintx wrote:Sadly, the 'new' search for Haleigh seems to have come to an end with more questions than answers. kh
Unfortunately, this may be the case unless the analysis of the two cinder blocks or whatever else they pulled out of the river turns up something. I wonder if any of what we heard this week about Haleigh being dumped in the river is even true. Is there any evidence that corroborates any of this besides the words of various members of the Croslin family?

It seems like everything we heard this week was based on the words of people who could easily be making the whole thing up in an effort to shift the focus to Joe Overstreet and get plea deals on the drug charges. Tommy did say in a phone call with his wife Lindsay that Misty's lawyer wanted him to go along with their little story and put it on his cousin. Tommy may have later decided that it wasn't a bad idea to do so.
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Post by LottieM Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:31 pm

Trying to imagine what might have happened to Haleigh with bits and parts of what they all say I'm intrigued by Misty talking about Joe coming for his gun and not finding it etc etc.

What if they were fighting over the gun, it was there and they were just being irresponsible with it, and it went off accidentally and shot Haleigh?

I think it's odd that they say the gun wasn't there, but they never said where it might be.
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Post by Justice4all Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:06 pm

Ronald Cummings Believes Haleigh's Body Dumped in River

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Post by khintx Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:25 pm

THanks for this link J4A...... I had not seen that. I think Ron has always had a "pretty good idea" what happened.... In fact, I think he has first hand knowledge about what happened. But that's just me. Time will tell! kh
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Post by khintx Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:24 pm

Thanks again J4A! Still on the fence........... kh
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Post by Justice4all Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:30 pm

You are welcome kh.
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