Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
It is kind of amazing to me Tess. I don't think I could do it.
OT.....don't forget oral arguments in the Tammi Smith case on the 18th. (have ya all looked at the calendar here at RC? What a great tool that is)
OT.....don't forget oral arguments in the Tammi Smith case on the 18th. (have ya all looked at the calendar here at RC? What a great tool that is)
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I have seen the calendar, great tool.
I think Milian is throwing out all these terms and conditions to give the jury a feeling of many different causes of sudden death.
I think Milian is throwing out all these terms and conditions to give the jury a feeling of many different causes of sudden death.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I agree Tess, I think he is doing a ggod job tempering the testimony
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
So since anything is possible, how can you send a man to prison with so much in doubt?
Did I hear the judge earlier say that she will give the State a lesser included of manslaughter? I thought I heard her say that if they ask for it, they will get it. If that is the case, I wonder if that will affect the jury's thinking.
Did I hear the judge earlier say that she will give the State a lesser included of manslaughter? I thought I heard her say that if they ask for it, they will get it. If that is the case, I wonder if that will affect the jury's thinking.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Yes, she did say that. The def objected, but she let it in
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
sustained button white hot
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
If the state gets the lesser charge, I think AK will be convicted of that. No way is he going to be convicted of 2nd but if the jury believes Lina didn't die of natural causes but don't think AK killed her intentionall and there's manslaughter, I think they'll jump all over that. I don't think that's right though since I don't think they've proven anything.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
wow...only 5 glass slides....there were 200+ slides
Like I said....what parts of the heart was he reviewing?
Different slides, different doctors, different opinions.
Like I said....what parts of the heart was he reviewing?
Different slides, different doctors, different opinions.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Milian is making a good point....a little far fetched, but good
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
5 slides with a one page explanation not signed....wow talk about having total deniability
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I'm lovin this line of questioning...I am totally confused as to the owership, lost, found, Marrichini slides. Think the jury is just as confused? More reasonable doubt!
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I swear this case is so bad... :/
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
What about the toileet? I lost connection and had to get back on
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Dr. Mont looking for water.....getting a little dry mouthed at the grilling?
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
geeeeeeeeeez louise, I would rather walk into a propeller than be cross examined by Milan about anything. He's smart, tough, agressive, relentless, imo, just doing his job.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Dr. Mont's original report first line said......33 y/o white female found dead by her husband on the toilet.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
LOL art tart...ain't that the truth
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I want this guy if I get in trouble...very good point at the end to take a break
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
recess for 15 mins...Geez I have to leave in 15 min to take the munchkin to school.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
CB is the school far away? The tapes should be coming up next
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I just got home I left about 10 minutes into testimony. Thanks to everybody who has been commenting on the trial.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I wanted to be back in time to hear the tapes
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
CB or anybody:
Where do I find the calender on RC?
Where do I find the calender on RC?
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
art tart wrote:geeeeeeeeeez louise, I would rather walk into a propeller than be cross examined by Milan about anything. He's smart, tough, agressive, relentless, imo, just doing his job.
If Adam did not have Milan for any attorney - I wonder if this would be a slam dunk for pros?
I wonder if Adam choked his wife - then stopped and she died later....would explain the cough up of sun tan spray ??
nothing explains the hyroid bone not being broken ?
nothing explains why there was no hand prints or belt prints?
i blame the detectives at the crime scene n ME office
RIP Lina she deserved a whole lot better
Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I'm laughing at Mike Brooks talking about Dr. Hymi. Mike Brooks can't get past the 18 months, I too have a BIG problem with that.
Michelle Sigona has been a good analyst imo, I have been suprised but she has a real grasp of the material presented.
Michelle Sigona has been a good analyst imo, I have been suprised but she has a real grasp of the material presented.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Stark, the calendar is at the top of the page...calendar...then click on appropriate button
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
School about 1o minutes away...should be back by about 15 after.
calendar at the top of the page next to the forum tab.
calendar at the top of the page next to the forum tab.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Oops, Angie not Stark sorry
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
ok...taking off now...keep up the commentary til I get back....pleeeeeeeease
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Thanks tess and CB
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
My cardiologist just called and cancelled my appt for today yippy- i get to be here with u all day!!
Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Sure looks like a battle of the experts...Wouldn't you just love to see them all in an enclosed room to hash it out??? I have a tendency to believe Not Guilty though it may be due to reasonable doubt...Haven't seen this many sidebars since CA trial.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Pros. redirect...do you see any structural abnormalites in Lina's heart
No
Sudden death due to arryth. vast majority due to structural abnormality
No
Sudden death due to arryth. vast majority due to structural abnormality
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Dr. Mont just reiterating what he said in direct
Overruled button in full operational mode
Overruled button in full operational mode
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
objection overruled objection overruled objection, sidebar sheesh
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Yet another sidebar
pul edema is consistent with asphyx death. Dr. is explaining the physiology of this opinion.
pul edema is consistent with asphyx death. Dr. is explaining the physiology of this opinion.
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
making point that asphyx death is one means of perfusion mismatch...I am thinking this is difficult for jury to process in five minutes
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
If I'm on the jury
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Explaining flash pulmonary edema now. It always has some physiologic cause. most common cause is cardiac. Didn't see any underlying anatomic anomoly to cause this
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
qustioning doc on slides he received from ME office. 5 slides were cut from same block of tissue as the rest (I think that's his point)
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Objection....overruled
documentation with the slides the entire piece of tissue was cut to make slides. every other slide given to Dr. marachini
documentation with the slides the entire piece of tissue was cut to make slides. every other slide given to Dr. marachini
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
Can I please slap this judge in the face?
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
judge denied def 2 sidebar request
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
bringing up addendum report now....
Objection..overruled witness testified he didn't see it
I want side bar (milian) denied
Milian is very upset just tossed his pen on the desk in front of him
Objection..overruled witness testified he didn't see it
I want side bar (milian) denied
Milian is very upset just tossed his pen on the desk in front of him
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Re: Adam Kaufman Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL)
I think the judge should sit on the prosecution side. It would be more honest
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