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Post by KZ Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:03 pm

Thread for discussion of concerns, thoughts, and opinions on the PayPal Defense fund set up for George Zimmerman's defense.

Thank you all for keeping comments in this thread on topic.
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Post by Tamta Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:25 pm

In the most recent fund raising appeal, maybe GZ Defense fund left out a group of potential donors:

those who believe that a PR firm, possible staffed by attorneys, has infiltrated the investigation.

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Lee, fired two weeks ago, would not discuss why he said one thing in public but had his agency quietly ask prosecutors to charge Zimmerman. A public-relations agency issued a short statement that it attributed to him:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-sanford-police-lied-20120707_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-chief-bill-lee-arrest-warrant
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Post by WeeBonnie Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:06 pm



WeeBonnie wrote:interesting he is justfying the fund by saying it's needed because the bond amount was so high. Did he forget the first bond hearing?
Nothing about how the fund itself- and lies about it were exactly WHY the bond was so high. That's a very deliberate lie.
He's rewriting recent history.


Ann - Tx wrote:

KZ, I am not following this case so if I have this posted on the wrong thread, please move it to the appropriate thread.

Also, I did not post it in the Library because being that I am not following this case, I am unfamiliar with where this would be posted in the Library and I do not have time to figure it out.

Thanks!

Although the title does not include the interview with Mark O'Mara, he was a guest on Piers Morgan Tonight on 7/9/12.

Please scroll down almost to the end of the transcript. O'Mara was the last guest on the show.

Because of copyright, I will snip only a portion of the transcript.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/09/pmt.01.html
CNN - Transcripts - Piers Morgan Tonight - 7/9/12

PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT

Taxes and the Race for the White House; Cruise, Holmes and Scientology

Aired July 9, 2012 - 21:00 ET


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MORGAN: George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, is out of jail on one million dollars bond. But his attorney made a statement that's been pretty controversial. Joining me now in his first exclusive interview since he got his client released is that attorney, Mark O'Mara. Mark, welcome back.

MARK O'MARA, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE ZIMMERMAN: Good evening. How you doing, Piers?

MORGAN: Your client is out. He got his bond. People have been a little bit surprised. I'm going to take this straight to you for your reaction tot his, about the strategy that you've adopted, which is to go public and say, if you agree that my clients' actions were with justified, then donate money to his defense funds.

Tell me about the thinking behind the strategy, and about the way that it's now blown up as a bit of a controversial thing for you to have done.

O'MARA: Well, it is a bit unique, again. And I'm a bit conflicted by it, to be honest. We try to deal with the reality that George does not have any funds of his own. He can only get those funds from his supporters. And a lot of those supporters, the comments they've given us have shown a variety -- a spectrum of support, a lot of which are those that believe that George did, in fact, act appropriately.

MORGAN: Right, but it is, as you say, a unique situation for a defense attorney to effectively say, look, you may believe he killed somebody, and he clearly did, but if you think he acted in self- defense and is justified, give us your money. It's something -- as critics would say, and there's some merit to the argument, it's slightly crude, isn't it? It's a sort of -- it's a very weird thing to be doing, isn't it?

O'MARA: It is. As I said, I was somewhat -- am somewhat conflicted with it, only because it is so very unique. This whole case has shown a lot of unique facets to it, one of which the fact that there is a criminal defense fund at all; secondly, that it's garnered such an amazing controversy and support throughout the nation and internationally. So it was a decision that we were sort of put in a position of having to do because of the bond amount.

As you remember, Piers, we had talked in the past that I had never really asked for money on George's behalf. And though we had the defense fund active, we never really pushed it. The reality is, however, that with a one million dollar bond, and a 100,000 dollar fee to get that bond done, we cannot do it without support from George's supporters.

MORGAN: How do you know, though, that there are no racist groups getting involved in this fund-raising? Are you vetting each donor? Do you know who they are? Clearly, the way this has been framed is an open invitation to any of the racists who raised their ugly heads at the time, to say, hey, this guy shot a black guy, I'm going to give him some money. How do you know that's not happening?



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Post by Tamta Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:19 pm

Lester's finding on the fund raising:

"There is no evidence that this money was ill gotten or squandered."

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Order%20Setting%20Bail%20rev%207%205%2012.pdf

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MORGAN: How do you know, though, that there are no racist groups getting involved in this fund-raising? Are you vetting each donor? Do you know who they are? Clearly, the way this has been framed is an open invitation to any of the racists who raised their ugly heads at the time, to say, hey, this guy shot a black guy, I'm going to give him some money. How do you know that's not happening?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/09/pmt.01.html

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The necessary fundraising that the parent's of Trayvon have to do, and that other individual's and groups do in their service are also vulnerable to the same risks.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/trayvon-martin-fundraiser_n_1376000.html

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-fundraiser-cancelled-after-twitter-backlash-over-skittles-flier/
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Post by Gizmo711 Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:24 pm

Tamta wrote:Lester's finding on the fund raising:

"There is no evidence that this money was ill gotten or squandered."

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Order%20Setting%20Bail%20rev%207%205%2012.pdf

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MORGAN: How do you know, though, that there are no racist groups getting involved in this fund-raising? Are you vetting each donor? Do you know who they are? Clearly, the way this has been framed is an open invitation to any of the racists who raised their ugly heads at the time, to say, hey, this guy shot a black guy, I'm going to give him some money. How do you know that's not happening?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/09/pmt.01.html

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The necessary fundraising that the parent's of Trayvon have to do, and that other individual's and groups do in their service are also vulnerable to the same risks.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/trayvon-martin-fundraiser_n_1376000.html

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-fundraiser-cancelled-after-twitter-backlash-over-skittles-flier/


And supposedly O'Mara is sending back any donations that have any racists remarks attached to it.

BS

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Post by Tamta Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:29 pm

Gizmo711 wrote:
Tamta wrote:Lester's finding on the fund raising:

"There is no evidence that this money was ill gotten or squandered."

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Order%20Setting%20Bail%20rev%207%205%2012.pdf

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MORGAN: How do you know, though, that there are no racist groups getting involved in this fund-raising? Are you vetting each donor? Do you know who they are? Clearly, the way this has been framed is an open invitation to any of the racists who raised their ugly heads at the time, to say, hey, this guy shot a black guy, I'm going to give him some money. How do you know that's not happening?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/09/pmt.01.html

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The necessary fundraising that the parent's of Trayvon have to do, and that other individual's and groups do in their service are also vulnerable to the same risks.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/trayvon-martin-fundraiser_n_1376000.html

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-fundraiser-cancelled-after-twitter-backlash-over-skittles-flier/


And supposedly O'Mara is sending back any donations that have any racists remarks attached to it.

BS

Well "find" is a key word.

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Post by WeeBonnie Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:30 pm

Gizmo! I nominate you to join that Treehouse place undercover and see if this is true!

Gizmo711 wrote:
Tamta wrote:Lester's finding on the fund raising:

"There is no evidence that this money was ill gotten or squandered."

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Order%20Setting%20Bail%20rev%207%205%2012.pdf

********************

MORGAN: How do you know, though, that there are no racist groups getting involved in this fund-raising? Are you vetting each donor? Do you know who they are? Clearly, the way this has been framed is an open invitation to any of the racists who raised their ugly heads at the time, to say, hey, this guy shot a black guy, I'm going to give him some money. How do you know that's not happening?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/09/pmt.01.html

***********************************

The necessary fundraising that the parent's of Trayvon have to do, and that other individual's and groups do in their service are also vulnerable to the same risks.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/trayvon-martin-fundraiser_n_1376000.html

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-fundraiser-cancelled-after-twitter-backlash-over-skittles-flier/


And supposedly O'Mara is sending back any donations that have any racists remarks attached to it.

BS

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