Document Dump 7-12-2012 -- Zimmerman/Martin Case

Discussion thread for anticipated document dump scheduled 7-9-2012.

Thank you all for staying on topic in this thread!

Where are the docs? Anyone with a link?

The dump is scheduled for tomorrow, so no link yet.

Justice4all wrote:The dump is scheduled for tomorrow, so no link yet.

Oops! I lost track of the date!

KZ wrote:Discussion thread for anticipated document dump scheduled 7-9-2012.

Thank you all for staying on topic in this thread!

Ohhh, I didn't know it was scheduled for tomorrow, just thought it was sometime during the week, yay!!

Can anyone verify that there are actually 22 witnesses who saw or heard the incident that night?
I'm hoping it wasn't a typo- and that we hear from some at the coming dump!
Mods please feel free to move this- I was looking for a thread in witnesses and felt this was the closest fit:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/31/2826258/media-seeks-access-to-more-evidence.html

WeeBonnie wrote:Can anyone verify that there are actually 22 witnesses who saw or heard the incident that night?
I'm hoping it wasn't a typo- and that we hear from some at the coming dump!
Mods please feel free to move this- I was looking for a thread in witnesses and felt this was the closest fit:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/31/2826258/media-seeks-access-to-more-evidence.html

I just re-read that too Wee. One of the other articles mentioned 'new civilian witness statements', so maybe there are more. But since the Herald article is a week or so old, they either knew about these new witnesses or it's a typo. Good catch tho!

It was announced today that the doc dump would be Thursday, so I updated the thread title.

Thank you, J4A!

Thank ellejay. I got the info from one of her posts.

--we should be getting the latest soon then....

http://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

New ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ evidence is in. Reviewing now. ‪#TrayvonMartin‬


New ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ docs start w/ brief statements of SPD officers. Describe injuries to ‪#TrayvonMartin‬ and GZ.

Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

One officer "ran two car tags to attempt to identify" ‪#TrayvonMartin‬. No luck. "The tags came back to people in the complex."

Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

Documents: At least one of the officers called to ‪#TrayvonMartin‬ shooting had prior contacts w/ ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ due to his previous calls.

---what's an 'air marshall'?

http://twitter.com/roblesherald
Frances Robles ‏@RoblesHerald

Documents say Zimmerman went to one of his police interviews with an Air Marshal

Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

Another Sanford officer says ‪#GeorgeZImmerman‬'s nose injury not apparent when he arrived at SPD, but "was 'grunting' as if in pain."

ellejay wrote:---what's an 'air marshall'?

They're like superduper security guards in the air and sometimes accompany criminals (on flights), so that's fitting that he had one at his side. lol

But seriously, wtf at him having an Air Marshal, wonder if they're a friend of daddy's or what?

ellejay wrote:---what's an 'air marshall'?

http://twitter.com/roblesherald
Frances Robles ‏@RoblesHerald

Documents say Zimmerman went to one of his police interviews with an Air Marshal

A type of enforcement trained by the government - rides as a passenger on air flights - plain clothes - trained in terriorist activities.....sounds like the air marshal had some available time to help out.

Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

Evidence dump includes email from SPD officer coordinating watch with ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬. 8/31/11 notes 3 burglaries in last 3 months.

Prior reports in ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ evidence: Burglaries, a break-in robbery, a vehicle theft. All those I've seen so far reported by victims.

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ evidence includes reports from prior burglaries in Retreat at Twin Lakes. Home/vehicle break ins. ‪#TrayvonMartin‬

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ investigators interviewed ‪#TrayvonMartin‬ cousin, who said "on a stack of Bibles" it was Trayvon's voice crying in 911 call.
No. Judge has yet to rule on Witness 9.



Frances Robles‏@RoblesHerald

‪#Zimmerman‬ tried calling prosecutors on April 10, but he hung up when they did a three-way call with his then-attorney Sonner on the line.

New evidence in ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ case includes crime scene photos, non-emergency calls he made, bank survelliance video... ( i'm still wondering what this bank video is all about..)


One of the witnesses told investigators her son felt pressured by police to say that the injured man he saw was wearing a red hoodie.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ investigators interviewed ‪#TrayvonMartin‬ cousin, who said "on a stack of Bibles" it was Trayvon's voice crying in 911 call.

Then one of the pro-Z people replied, ' Did cousin actually physically have hand on stack of Bibles-otherwise means squat. Did Investigators ask Dad again? Confirm.'

Ellejay and serenaz...thanks for all the updates.....you are appreciated.

Frances Robles:

A witness told investigators the "person on top" was more like wrestling, not "arms swinging."


Trayvon's father's girlfriend's son confirmed that Trayvon had gone to 7-11 to get him Skittles.

Love the tweets, but I wanna see the docs!

Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

New evidence includes emails between ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ and Sanford police chief. He praises the officer he had been working with.


New ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ evidence photos. Here's ‪#TrayvonMartin‬'s hoodie as received by FDLE
http://yfrog.com/nvkeaxvj

from @clickorlando

Neighborhood watch street capt tells FBI: #Zimmerman 'rolled his eyes' as police patted him down after shooting

Wonder who this street captain is?

I hear ya, Cb!

Frances Robles:

Zimmerman's friend told investigators that he was physically abused by his mother while growing up and had been estranged from his family

Oh dear God! What next? I knew Sandusky????

LOL CB! There's a new report on that case today too!

more from Jeff Weiner:

FBI reports: Sanford officer felt shooting was "not racially motivated, but it was a man shooting an un-armed kid."

Considering SPD's alleged reputation on racial issues, I'd hardly trust their interpretation.

Frances Robles:

Serino told FBI that Zimmerman had a "hero complex" and profiled #trayvon based on his attire and the cirumstances, not his race.

Darlene Jones:
March 30th, about a month after shooting, #GeorgeZimmerman contacted gun dealer and said he needed more guns because his life was in danger

Jeff Weiner:
Media consultant tells FBI ABC & NBC provided meals, airline travel to discuss "possibility of #Zimmerman participating in an interview."

Coworker: #GeorgeZimmerman looked "horrible" day after #TrayvonMartin shooting. "Beat up physically and emotionally." {wonder if that coworker is Oliver...Z's boss supposedly said he had NOT returned to the building since the shooting, IIRC.}


Frances Robles:
Names are blacked out, but obvious that Joe Oliver told FBI that Frank Taaffee was a bigot.

http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/15490330/data/1/-/kligxm/-/Zimmerman-documents.pdf

Puzzler wrote:http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/15490330/data/1/-/kligxm/-/Zimmerman-documents.pdf

Thanks Puzzler!!

I have to leave for awhile, will catch up later!

When Officer Ayala arrived he saw one officer holding 2 people @ gunpoint and another person lying on the ground with his hands UNDER NEATH him...yelled for him to remove his hands...then felt for pulse and their was not one...

I thought Gz said he spread Trayvon's arms out?

Officer Smith at police headquarters says he saw a gun/holster on Zimmerman's right side....inside the waistband of his pants. Smith took possession of the gun. Smith cleared the gun and placed it in a gun box.....

I'm reading these reports but beginning to think I am crazy.....

Hinky Refugee wrote:When Officer Ayala arrived he saw one officer holding 2 people @ gunpoint and another person lying on the ground with his hands UNDER NEATH him...yelled for him to remove his hands...then felt for pulse and their was not one...

I thought Gz said he spread Trayvon's arms out?

Who were the two people?
We know GZ was one but who was the second?
Was this the other NW person?

The two people were not identified so far in my reading, Freckles. Are you reading the documents now also?

Zimmerman discovery photo gallery

Published On: Jul 12 2012 11:19:13 AM EDT


1 of 84 Pictures

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/15490524/-/1v5ve0z/-/index.html

Puzzler wrote:http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/15490330/data/1/-/kligxm/-/Zimmerman-documents.pdf

Page 15:
"The holster Zimmerman had was a nylon holster with no type of retention strap on the gun. It was not attached to a belt."

Okay... I have wonder if GZ even was wearing the gun?
Anything to indicate GZ had slipped the gun and holster into his r/side pocket?

BTW. My one son is left handed but shoots r/handed. He wears a belt holster on his r/hip. He agrees w earlier statements re GZ: Had GZ been wearing a l/draw holster on the r/side the gun would have been upside down for a right draw. However, if GZ had done a left draw, the gun would have been correct. Gun holster are designed so the butt or handle faces a specific direction in the holster.

Hinky Refugee wrote:When Officer Ayala arrived he saw one officer holding 2 people @ gunpoint and another person lying on the ground ...

I think you have mis-read this. It just says the officer had 2 people at gunpoint. One of those people was Trayvon. The officer was yelling at Trayvon before he/she realized that Trayvon was dead.

Page 17:
5th paragraph from bottom" Witnesses states she saw (GZ_ get up. He was wearing a white short sleeved shirt/top.
---Huh? What happened to his jacket?

I skipped down to FBI reports. There are gangs in the area calling themself Goons......in cold weather (these gangs of which there are at least 3 different Goon gangs...wear hoodies.....

this is per GISU...gang intelligience suppression unit

just typing not doing spell checks...too hard to do

Zimmerman call -- Reports 2 teens in...

July 12, 2012

Click to listen:

http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/15489926/data/1/-/32h48b/-/Zimmerman-call-reporting-2-teens.null

angela_nw wrote:

Hinky Refugee wrote:When Officer Ayala arrived he saw one officer holding 2 people @ gunpoint and another person lying on the ground ...

I think you have mis-read this. It just says the officer had 2 people at gunpoint. One of those people was Trayvon. The officer was yelling at Trayvon before he/she realized that Trayvon was dead.

I re-read that and see where that is a possibility. Wish he had identified who the two were, however, as the report was prepared after it was known TM was dead.

Thanks.

WKMG Local 6 News ‏@clickorlando
Ex-fiancee: GZ's mother never liked her because she was hispanic and wanted GZ to marry a 'white woman' ‪#TrayvonMartin‬ ‪#Zimmerman‬

WKMG Local 6 News ‏@clickorlando
Former fiancee told FBI: ‪#Zimmerman‬ exhibited overly 'protective and territorial' behavior. ‪#TrayvonMartin‬

WKMG Local 6 News ‏@clickorlando
FDLE lab results of ‪#TrayvonMartin‬ hoodie: "consistent with contact shot" ‪#Zimmerman‬

WKMG Local 6 News ‏@clickorlando
Witness tells SAO she thinks ‪#Zimmerman‬ was on top of ‪#Trayvon‬ in the struggle because of what 'she's seen on TV'

Page 27:
Witness Bernie de la Rionda states he was the one who called GZ' wife at request of GZ. GZ' demeanor was like, Just get to the point. Not a big deal.

Correction: Bernie de la Rionda is probably not a witness but is ?????
Hi name keeps coming up on the reports.

Edited:
Bernie de la Rionda is listed on page 38 as the prosecutor.

Names, names, and more names! Need a glossary.

Page 37: Mother's statement.
Trayvon was right handed.

Zimmerman's non-emergency phone calls released

Seven calls made public in Zimmerman case

UPDATED 11:14 AM EDT Jul 12, 2012



Listen to the calls by clicking each link:

Call 1: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490530/data/3/-/d4lnkj/-/Call-1.null

Call 2: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490542/data/4/-/11o6kjtz/-/Call-2.null

Call 3: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490548/data/5/-/15336fz/-/Call-3.null

Call 4: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490556/data/5/-/k57k37z/-/Call-4.null

Call 5: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490572/data/4/-/nlmltj/-/Call-5.null

Call 6: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490588/data/3/-/oq9q6s/-/Call-6.null

Call 7: http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15490594/data/3/-/l5h5ec/-/Call-7.null

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/Zimmerman-s-non-emergency-phone-calls-released/-/14266478/15490616/-/w3buvqz/-/index.html

Just noticed there was finally a mention of Z's wallet, stating his concealed carry permit was in it.

(it's on page dated March 23 by O'Steen)

Page 77, 78:
Shellie contacted a ten-year friend of GZ's who had taught GZ how to shoot. This person went to the scene and met Shellie there at the scene. He states he "accompanied him to the Sanford Police Department where they waited in the lobby until GZ' was released the following morning..."

So. After Shellie was called, she called this person. Together, they went to the scene of the murder. He says he accompanied him to the SPD and I must wonder if he was actually IN the same car and followed in another vehicle with Shellie.

???

http://www.clickorlando.com/blob/view/-/15490330/data/1/-/kligxm/-/Zimmerman-documents.pdf


After GZ was released, at home Shellie "treated" GZ' head with BUTTERFLY BANDAGES (as some here have speculated!)

Page 79: Oh-oh! Big error! The "friend" states GZ told him he had his elbow on the ground when he fired the gun into Trayvon's chest. Bullet entry was not angled but straight on. Trayvon then made some (ridiculous comment straight off the 1960s Westerns), pivoted 90 degrees off GZ, and fell to the ground.

Geez. Please do not apply to Hollywood! These guys can't write a script!

serenaz1 wrote:Just noticed there was finally a mention of Z's wallet, stating his concealed carry permit was in it.

(it's on page dated March 23 by O'Steen)

Think that the wallet was from his property on arrest for 2nd degree murder at Jacksonville police station..Not from the night of the shooting....

Speed reading through the FBI stuff so far it seems all is about reports from people that Gz was level headed, and nonracial....nothing so far about the people who say otherwise......

And, yeah, I, too keep reading about the person on top having on a white shirt.....didn't Gz have a white Tee on underneath his top reddish shirt???

Still think I am going nuts reading this shxx...Need ya'll to explain it to me! :( Tell your boss someone in distress needs you at home (you don't have to say I am at your home behind a computer screen)....

The ten year freind whom gave dhooting practice to the Zimmermans is the aforementioned Air Marshall i presume......

ecossie possie wrote:

serenaz1 wrote:Just noticed there was finally a mention of Z's wallet, stating his concealed carry permit was in it.

(it's on page dated March 23 by O'Steen)

Think that the wallet was from his property on arrest for 2nd degree murder at Jacksonville police station..Not from the night of the shooting....

Ahh, ok, thanks ecossie!