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Post by KZ Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:04 am

Thread to discuss the anticipated doc dump (7-16-2012) of jailhouse phone calls. IIRC, there were about 150 calls. (Yikes-- get some rest this weekend, and polish your reading glasses!)

The judge also ordered the release of all the recorded jailhouse calls that prosecutors turned over as evidence in the probe about his fundraising.

The newly released evidence is expected on Monday.

BBM.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/13/2894366/judge-orders-release-of-witness.html#moreb#storylink=cpy
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Post by serenaz1 Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:32 am

KZ wrote:Thread to discuss the anticipated doc dump (7-16-2012) of jailhouse phone calls. IIRC, there were about 150 calls. (Yikes-- get some rest this weekend, and polish your reading glasses!)

The judge also ordered the release of all the recorded jailhouse calls that prosecutors turned over as evidence in the probe about his fundraising.

The newly released evidence is expected on Monday.

BBM.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/13/2894366/judge-orders-release-of-witness.html#moreb#storylink=cpy

Guess I better put the barf bags where they'll be handy...just think how much babbling we're gonna have to listen to, not to mention all the 'cutie' and 'you're a hero' crap...ugh.

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Post by snowbird Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:37 am

Well, I wonder how Shellie feels right now after it came out that George talked to his ex girl friend about her not wanting kids and he wants kids. Now she is charged with a crime to protect money from a man who tell tales to his old girl-friend. Very Happy
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Post by ellejay Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:30 am

http://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

State will release Witness 9 statement, some of ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬'s jail calls Monday at 11 a.m. EST ‪#TrayvonMartin‬
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Post by WeeBonnie Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:23 pm

Ah.... Interesting! Were there sny guesses as to who witness 9 is - a family friend?

ellejay wrote:http://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS

State will release Witness 9 statement, some of ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬'s jail calls Monday at 11 a.m. EST ‪#TrayvonMartin‬

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Post by Freckles Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:27 pm

Suggestion:
The phone calls could take their own thread for comments?
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Post by WeeBonnie Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:37 pm

Freckles wrote:Suggestion:
The phone calls could take their own thread for comments?

Do you think The witness 9 call shld be seperated? I think maybe three doc dump threads in less than a week is a bit much.

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Post by KZ Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Question to members: Would you like a separate thread to discuss all things related to Witness 9?

Putting this question here in response to the above, and copying it in Stickies.
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:34 pm


Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ schooling his sister on court process in one call. She wants to know what's going to happen at arraignment

2mDaralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

That family member is his sister


Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ to family member who wants to see him.."I don't think it's smart"


2mDaralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

Some of what ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ talks about in calls is hard to figure out b/c he talks in code


Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ references ‪#CaseyAnthony‬ case in one call, reminding wife that anything they say will end up on news

14mDaralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ to wife: jail doc told him his blood pressure was up b/c of stress


15mDaralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬'s wife is VERY encouraging/motivating during jail calls
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:54 pm

Here is a link to the first 5 calls audio ...

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/Listen-to-Zimmerman-jail-house-calls/-/14266478/15530620/-/n1djbn/-/index.html?absolute=true
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Labadorable wrote:Here is a link to the first 5 calls audio ...

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/Listen-to-Zimmerman-jail-house-calls/-/14266478/15530620/-/n1djbn/-/index.html?absolute=true

--awesome! thanks labadorable!
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:02 pm

Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬'s wife's father apparently spent time in jail, according to what she told him in one jail call


Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ says jail doc told him his tonsils were swollen like she had never seen before...
3mDaralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬'s wife: "I'll call Mark, or call FDLE to figure out the best way to get me up there" --talking about visiting GZ in jail


4mDaralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬'s wife to him in one jail call: "Dang, you're like a celebrity!"
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:18 pm

--calls #1 - #10 are up now.....with call summaries being added as available. ..they're putting them all up in batches of 10.


http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/audio/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls-1-10-released-7162012-audio/
The following is a list of full audio of jailhouse calls, released on 7/16/2012 and later, made by George Zimmerman while in jail at the Seminole County Detention Center in Florida.
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:22 pm

--call #5

Call Summary: Call between George Zimmerman and Shellie Zimmerman. Zimmerman appears to be crying, and expresses remorse for the situation in which he’s put Shellie. She is supportive as he expresses himself. He asks her to just talk to him. She discusses the need for her to get a new cell phone. She tells him how much she loves him. He talks about the politics of getting use of the phone while in jail. She tells him to put his mind “in a place of positivity.” He tells her and others not to come to the hearing that day. She says that someone he knows very well is flying in that day. Shellie says that she is metaphysically there with George, and when he closes his eyes she is there. She calls George “the sweetest person on earth.”

He talks about his lunch and some books to read. He makes mention of someone who hooked him up with the new attorney. They both talk about how grateful they are. Shellie says she’s happy that he is alive and that they will get through the situation.

Zimmerman tells Shellie that she is not on the visitation list. They discuss that they don’t think he will get bond that day. Shellie is optimistic though. Zimmerman tells her to be sure to get the computer and the hot spot. He says that Ken went to New York to be on TV, ( looks like "ken" is robZ Jr after all..?) but that he would be back that evening. Shellie says that she might try to get a new phone, and he suggests that she gets a new number. They express their love and reassure each other. Shellie ends the call with, “Keep your chin up. Don’t let them win.”


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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:26 pm



Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones
Hmmm...next jail call is in Spanish. My photographer helping me interpret. Sounds like ‪#GeorgeZimmerman‬ talking to his brother

Pia Malbran‏@PiaMalbran
In jail call, Zimmerman asks "What is a White Hispanic?" He says: "No hay nada blanco de mí." Translation: "There’s nothing White about me."


Gio Benitez, CBS‏@GioBenitez
: Zimmerman jail call (Spanish): "... this could have been avoided if my parents would have given me a proper Latino name."
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:29 pm

Ok I could be wrong ... but WESH has Call #4 as which I do not see as the same Call #4 on axiom ... UGH

Call #18532176
duration: 16.53.13
2012
4.12

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560136/data/1/-/v35lmaz/-/Jail-Call-4.null
1:54:327

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560136/data/1/-/v35lmaz/-/Jail-Call-4.null
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Post by Puzzler Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:32 pm

elle - while there's a lull, this is a good time to say TY to you "and all others" who've provided links to us today. It's really appreciated.

elle - you've always been such a gem at providing links and referring us to those links and comments, when we have questions - here and on Hinky.

Again, thanks to all.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:43 pm

Labadorable wrote:Ok I could be wrong ... but WESH has Call #4 as which I do not see as the same Call #4 on axiom ... UGH

Call #18532176
duration: 16.53.13
2012
4.12

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560136/data/1/-/v35lmaz/-/Jail-Call-4.null
1:54:327

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560136/data/1/-/v35lmaz/-/Jail-Call-4.null

Could you please post the link to the Axiom #4 call? TIA Very Happy
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:49 pm

around 8.25 mark
Gracie: I am not going to tell Mom that she is on the list (visitor list @ jail)
GZ: You're going to let TMZ tell her

Call #18532176
duration: 16.53.13
2012
4/12
1:54:327

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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:58 pm

Frances Robles‏@RoblesHerald

In 1 call, lady tells Zimmerman that CBS News sent flowers because they knew they were going through a difficult time. What nerve! he sez
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:00 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:
Labadorable wrote:Ok I could be wrong ... but WESH has Call #4 as which I do not see as the same Call #4 on axiom ... UGH

Call #18532176
duration: 16.53.13
2012
4.12

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560136/data/1/-/v35lmaz/-/Jail-Call-4.null
1:54:327

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560136/data/1/-/v35lmaz/-/Jail-Call-4.null

Could you please post the link to the Axiom #4 call? TIA Very Happy

I got the link, Ellejay posted it upthread. Thank you!
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:03 pm

GZ makes reference to getting "his medicine".

Grazie: We (Grazie & Shellie) also wanted to ask you ... would you like, like us to send you some photos .. like we are allowed to but I didn't know if you wanted us to

GZ: Yeah, I am not sure about that. Shellie had said and I didn't want to tell her no, but I don't know. Let me see how I feel when I get my medicine.

Gracie: ok

GZ: B/c right now I don't think that I could handle it..... (mumbles)

Call #18532176
duration: 16.53.13
2012
4/12
1:54:327
cut at 14.12 mark
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Post by alabama52 Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:07 pm

ellejay wrote:Frances Robles‏@RoblesHerald

In 1 call, lady tells Zimmerman that CBS News sent flowers because they knew they were going through a difficult time. What nerve! he sez

CBS sent flowers to his PARENTS.....is that correct??? I thought the poor parents were uprooted from their home & were in hiding because they were scared.

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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:18 pm

Looks like "Ken" m/b his brother ....

apr 12th - "says that Ken went to New York to be on TV." Ken = brother Robert Zimmerman (on CNN 11 apr)

per twitter ‏@CallsForJustice
George Zimmerman #jailhousecall apr 12th - "says that Ken went to New York to be on TV." Ken = brother Robert Zimmerman (on CNN 11 apr)
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:34 pm

Shellie's dad spent 52 weekends in jail ...

18531852
2012
4/12
1:50:704
mark @ 15.29


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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:41 pm

Okay this is strange as far as time.

18531852
2012
4/12
time: 150704 (per audio stamp via jail)
assume this is: 1:50:704

At marker 16.48

Shellie states: it's 3:23 ..

How at 17 mins (rounding up) into a call that started @ 1:50 be at 3:23??

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560552/data/1/-/2a41fsz/-/Jail-Call-5.null
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:15 pm

Labadorable wrote:Shellie's dad spent 52 weekends in jail ...

18531852
2012
4/12
1:50:704
mark @ 15.29

--maybe during his year of house arrest (and 10 years probabtion) for this:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1991-02-12/news/9102120749_1_bloch-lafay-weirich
3rd Man In Truck Thefts Pleads Guilty--Feb.1991.

--snipped--

Prosecutors call them thieves without honor: They tattled on each other and stabbed one another in the back.

Bradly Bloch faces eight years in prison when sentenced next month on two racketeering charges, 11 counts of grand theft and three counts of dealing in stolen property.

Investigators said Bloch supplied stolen vehicles and equipment to David Bryant Dean, who used them for his Longwood landscaping business.

Dean, 36, received a year of house arrest and 10 years of probation last week after pleading guilty to dealing in stolen property and five counts of grand theft.
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Post by serenaz1 Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:31 pm

Labadorable wrote:Okay this is strange as far as time.

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time: 150704 (per audio stamp via jail)
assume this is: 1:50:704

At marker 16.48

Shellie states: it's 3:23 ..

How at 17 mins (rounding up) into a call that started @ 1:50 be at 3:23??

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/15560552/data/1/-/2a41fsz/-/Jail-Call-5.null

Probably 24 hour timing; 15:00 = 3:00pm
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:57 pm

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-16/news/os-george-zimmerman-molested-20120716_1_george-zimmerman-special-prosecutor-angela-corey-mark-o-mara
'Witness 9' tells prosecutors George Zimmerman molested her for years
--snipped--

It is part of a new set of evidence released Monday morning by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey.

She today released witness 9's statement plus 140 recorded jail phone calls made by Zimmerman when he was in the Seminole County Jail.

One was a recording of a phone call between Zimmerman and Gainesville pastor Terry Jones, the evangelist who burned a Koran, setting off bloody demonstrations in Afghanistan that left a dozen people dead.

Jones wanted to hold a rally in Sanford in support of Zimmerman. The defendant wanted to put a stop to it.

"I was calling today to ask you, humbly, from one God-fearing sinner to the other, for time for healing, for not only for the City of Sanford, but for America," Zimmerman said. "I know your intentions are good…I just ask that you allow the city to heal and America to heal."

Come visit me in jail instead, Zimmerman suggested.

It's not clear whether that happened, but Jones did not hold the rally. The men did pray together on the phone, however.
~~~~

Other calls revealed interesting tidbits about Zimmerman's life behind bars and before:

For a time, he wanted to be a priest, he said.

CBS News sent Zimmerman's parents a bouquet of flowers

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/71106929/News/Audio-George-Zimmerman-calls-controversial-Pastor-Terry-Jones-while-in-jail#gl-1
--audio call between george and the pastor.
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Post by serenaz1 Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:04 pm

ellejay wrote:
Labadorable wrote:Shellie's dad spent 52 weekends in jail ...

18531852
2012
4/12
1:50:704
mark @ 15.29

--maybe during his year of house arrest (and 10 years probabtion) for this:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1991-02-12/news/9102120749_1_bloch-lafay-weirich
3rd Man In Truck Thefts Pleads Guilty--Feb.1991.

--snipped--

Prosecutors call them thieves without honor: They tattled on each other and stabbed one another in the back.

Bradly Bloch faces eight years in prison when sentenced next month on two racketeering charges, 11 counts of grand theft and three counts of dealing in stolen property.

Investigators said Bloch supplied stolen vehicles and equipment to David Bryant Dean, who used them for his Longwood landscaping business.

Dean, 36, received a year of house arrest and 10 years of probation last week after pleading guilty to dealing in stolen property and five counts of grand theft.

HOLY CRAP, that's crazy!

elle, i swear you have the best 'Google-Fu' ever!
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:32 pm

Audio: George Zimmerman calls controversial Pastor Terry Jones while in jail

While in a Seminole Co. jail, George Zimmerman calls controversial Pastor Terry Jones to ask that he not protest in Sanford but instead come and pray with him or stay in Gainesville to pray for him.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/71106929/News/Audio-George-Zimmerman-calls-controversial-Pastor-Terry-Jones-while-in-jail


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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:34 pm

--call #16-----we now know that the elusive "ken"----is gracie's husband.

george—I wanted to tell you that you, ken and his wife Susie are the only ones that know about that $300
shellie—right I know

george—when the time’s right I’ll tell you---remember what word we decided on a long time ago?
shellie—hmmmmmmmm…..maybe

george—part of my name is in it
shellie—hmmmmmmmmmm

george—my name’s in the word, it’s 2 words
shellie—mmmm...I still don’t know, why? What?

( shellie is really so clueless at times----once she asked him if his jail cell had bars? another time george says that she's not to answer the phone to other callers so his calls get through a.s.a.p.----she has to get him to confirm that he doesn't mean NOT to answer calls from him too.)
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Post by serenaz1 Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:17 pm

ellejay wrote:--call #16-----we now know that the elusive "ken"----is gracie's husband.

george—I wanted to tell you that you, ken and his wife Susie are the only ones that know about that $300
shellie—right I know

george—when the time’s right I’ll tell you---remember what word we decided on a long time ago?
shellie—hmmmmmmmm…..maybe

george—part of my name is in it
shellie—hmmmmmmmmmm

george—my name’s in the word, it’s 2 words
shellie—mmmm...I still don’t know, why? What?

( shellie is really so clueless at times----once she asked him if his jail cell had bars? another time george says that she's not to answer the phone to other callers so his calls get through a.s.a.p.----she has to get him to confirm that he doesn't mean NOT to answer calls from him too.)

Very Happy omg, I'm dying to know what the secret word is that she can't remember...even tho part of his name is in it.
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:21 pm

serenaz1 wrote:
ellejay wrote:--call #16-----we now know that the elusive "ken"----is gracie's husband.

george—I wanted to tell you that you, ken and his wife Susie are the only ones that know about that $300
shellie—right I know

george—when the time’s right I’ll tell you---remember what word we decided on a long time ago?
shellie—hmmmmmmmm…..maybe

george—part of my name is in it
shellie—hmmmmmmmmmm

george—my name’s in the word, it’s 2 words
shellie—mmmm...I still don’t know, why? What?

( shellie is really so clueless at times----once she asked him if his jail cell had bars? another time george says that she's not to answer the phone to other callers so his calls get through a.s.a.p.----she has to get him to confirm that he doesn't mean NOT to answer calls from him too.)

Very Happy omg, I'm dying to know what the secret word is that she can't remember...even tho part of his name is in it.

--i know...me too!

--of course george isn't too bright either----------when she can't get it when he gives her clue #1 (my name is in it.....) he follows w/ clue #2 ---(my name is in it....)

--( yeah thanks cutie---heard that the 1st time.)

--george also tells his dad that "ken" will be calling him-----and then clarifies for robZ Sr..."you know, my older brother-in-law"......( so much for that code name...) man! they're a bunch of idiots.


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Post by Chickenbutt Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:23 pm

What married couple has code words "they decided on a long time ago"? Who needs code words in their daily life? The only code word I ever had was for my ADHD son. I could get his attention and say "popcorn" and he knew to check his behavior. That way I never embarrassed him in front of his frineds or in public.
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Post by Freckles Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:49 pm

ellejay said: " ( shellie is really so clueless at times----once she asked him if his jail cell had bars? another time george says that she's not to answer the phone to other callers so his calls get through a.s.a.p.----she has to get him to confirm that he doesn't mean NOT to answer calls from him too.)"

awe That had me laughing so hard I had to pull myself off the floor!
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Post by Freckles Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:55 pm

Okay. Is this King George? George Washington? George Washington University?

Save me from such silliness, please!

(My older brother and I used a Morse Code set he had to send messages back and forth at night. He had memorized the code so I got to use his Boy Scout handbook--- and I was always losing my place. Pity is I was always calling out, "Can you send that again?? Was that a dot or a dash? Did you mean to send an S or a T? How do you spell..." I am sure my Dad was snickering in his room listening to us talk in code!)
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Post by serenaz1 Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:59 pm

ellejay wrote:
serenaz1 wrote:

Very Happy omg, I'm dying to know what the secret word is that she can't remember...even tho part of his name is in it.

--i know...me too!

--of course george isn't too bright either----------when she can't get it when he gives her clue #1 (my name is in it.....) he follows w/ clue #2 ---(my name is in it....)

--( yeah thanks cutie---heard that the 1st time.)

--george also tells his dad that "ken" will be calling him-----and then clarifies for robZ Sr..."you know, my older brother-in-law"......( so much for that code name...) man! they're a bunch of idiots.

Laughing This just tickles the hell outta me, especially the way you comment on it.

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Post by serenaz1 Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:01 pm

Chickenbutt wrote:What married couple has code words "they decided on a long time ago"? Who needs code words in their daily life? The only code word I ever had was for my ADHD son. I could get his attention and say "popcorn" and he knew to check his behavior. That way I never embarrassed him in front of his frineds or in public.

Couples who have criminal histories & futures I guess. lol

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:41 pm

Audio recordings of 40 of the 145 Jailhouse Calls that were released are available at this website:

http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/audio/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls-1-10-released-7162012-audio/
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:51 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-16/zimmerman-abuse-prosecutor-trayvon/56253714/1#.UASlBQehA5E.twitter
Woman accuses Zimmerman of child molestation

--snipped--

Recordings released Monday included 145 phone calls Zimmerman had while in jail.

In one conversation Zimmerman spoke with an unidentified person who told him that Zimmerman's friend and defender Frank Taaffe said that "he has an interested party" who was willing to pay for his legal defense as long as Jose Baez was co-counsel.

Zimmerman quotes O'Mara as saying, "if you want him to be co-counsel just have him be your counsel because I will excuse myself."

--more@link--
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Post by snowbird Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:06 pm

ellejay wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-16/zimmerman-abuse-prosecutor-trayvon/56253714/1#.UASlBQehA5E.twitter
Woman accuses Zimmerman of child molestation

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Recordings released Monday included 145 phone calls Zimmerman had while in jail.

In one conversation Zimmerman spoke with an unidentified person who told him that Zimmerman's friend and defender Frank Taaffe said that "he has an interested party" who was willing to pay for his legal defense as long as Jose Baez was co-counsel.

Zimmerman quotes O'Mara as saying, "if you want him to be co-counsel just have him be your counsel because I will excuse myself."

--more@link--


Laughing Laughing roflao
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Post by ellejay Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:16 pm

--ETA---and if i would read first-----i would have seen that 'alessandra' posted this already!

--calls #1 - #40 now available ---the rest "in process of uploading.."

http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/audio/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls-21-30-released-7162012-audio/

Calls #1-10
Calls #11-20
Calls #21-30
Calls #31-40

Calls #41-50

Calls #51-60
Calls #61-70
Calls #71-80
Calls #81-90
Calls #91-100

Calls #101-110
Calls #111-120
Calls #121-130
Calls #131-140
Calls #141-145
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Post by WeeBonnie Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:18 pm

Call #30 has GZ saying MOM knew about "36" in Pay Pal.
So he knew they were lying to the court but couldn't guess they'd lie to him?
But it does make sense now that he kept himself purposely ignorant.

I have mixed feeling they didnt replace him w/ Baez.
Kinda surprising he didn't go for the freebie- but maybe he thought MOM wouldn't find out about Peter Pan snd take his money.

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Post by serenaz1 Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:49 pm

ellejay wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-16/zimmerman-abuse-prosecutor-trayvon/56253714/1#.UASlBQehA5E.twitter
Woman accuses Zimmerman of child molestation

--snipped--

Recordings released Monday included 145 phone calls Zimmerman had while in jail.

In one conversation Zimmerman spoke with an unidentified person who told him that Zimmerman's friend and defender Frank Taaffe said that "he has an interested party" who was willing to pay for his legal defense as long as Jose Baez was co-counsel.

Zimmerman quotes O'Mara as saying, "if you want him to be co-counsel just have him be your counsel because I will excuse myself."

--more@link--

This just BLOWS me away, I can't even think of anything weirder that can happen in this case! Talk about a double-headed snake, Taaffe & Bozo hooking up is just CRAZY!!
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:33 pm

@serenaz1 re obvious correction to military time!

Dah - I deal with numbers all the time ... Thanks ... You are hired!
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Post by WeeBonnie Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:48 pm

And call 10 has his tell Shellie he thinks he has to give MOM about 7k.... I wonder how much he had at that point.
No matter, he sounds like a fool and a big cheapskate.
I am starting to be amused how he has prepaid phones, Internet and cable for two years because just maybe, he is screwing himself out of a better defense. Hopefully it is time he start suffering the consequences of his piss poor judgement.


WeeBonnie wrote:Call #30 has GZ saying MOM knew about "36" in Pay Pal.
So he knew they were lying to the court but couldn't guess they'd lie to him?
But it does make sense now that he kept himself purposely ignorant.

I have mixed feeling they didnt replace him w/ Baez.
Kinda surprising he didn't go for the freebie- but maybe he thought MOM wouldn't find out about Peter Pan snd take his money.

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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:51 pm

@weebonnie re -->36 PP and O'Money (which I could claim ownership - saw it on Twitter).

Here are the details of that tidbit you caught.

GZ had been talking to his caller on the phone about MOM
@ 4.43 mark

GZ: I did tell him (MOM) that we tried to make one transfer of 37 and it got held up because it is over the 10, you know.

Male: ah ah

GZ: So he knows about that. um But he ...

Male: Does he know about the volume

GZ: No

Male: Ok

GZ: And uh ...

Male: I'd like to keep that with us

GZ: Ok I think so too.

Call #30
18555518
2012
4/14/2012 12:49:39
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:19 pm

Talks about Baez, Taaffe and "SH" ..... new code word

@ 11:15 mark

GZ: He (MOM) asked me why JB (Baez) was trying to get involved. And I told him who referred me to him. Because I told you Taaffe (FT) reached out to him right? And he said he was going to try and reach out to the person who (sic) referred me to JB, if he has any connections b/c FT said that people were willing to pay for my defense if I take JB on. He (MOM) said that, you know, whoever (bad audio) whether it is him personally or some party that he is affiliated with that's willing to support my defense - they s/b willing to support my defense whether I use JB or not....unless they have some vested interest in using him (JB), so.

Male: You mean the support coming from SH ... is that what you are thinking?

GZ: SH?

Male: S as in Sam.

GZ: Oh okay

Male: ha ... that's an interesting dynamic. I'm thinking that is going to raise some tension with Mark.

GZ: But I already told him about it.

Male: Right, no I mean he is not going to want to be overshadow.

GZ: Well he is not going to take JB on.

Male: right

GZ: No matter what. He said that all that would do is polarize the two sides and cause tension. He seems to be very confident, realistic although there is a lot of hype around the media ... their argument is not strong basically.


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http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/audio/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls-21-30-released-7162012-audio/
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Post by Labadorable Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:44 pm

Bingo SH = SEAN HANNITY!

See my previous post. So SH was pimping his friend Baez!
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