Re: Jodi Arias -- Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #5

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:14 pm

carlakay wrote:I have to disagree with all of ya who think Jodi was or is a jealous woman. Jealousy is a self esteem issue..jealous women get upset and/ or angry with other women OR their man because they feel the other women are superior to them in some manner. I do not believe for one minute that Jodi Arias feels ANYONE is above her own wonderful self.

Disagree...she is most emphatically and obviously jealous and obsessed. I heard one psych on TV a couple weeks ago detailing Jodi's problems, (ie narcissism, etc.), and he said that low self esteem is part of it. She may come across as in control, but I can see that Jodi is insecure in a lot of ways, and I think others see that too.

by Mari 68 Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:15 pm

Oh, look at librarian Jodi today LOL

Give it a rest skank

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:15 pm

Ann - Tx wrote:
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by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:16 pm

CNN and AZ Central are streaming live.

KPHO not streaming yet; still streaming the Giffords appearance in Phoenix today.

by tesstruhart Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:17 pm

#JodiArias bailiff says jury questions will not be filed until after trial. We'll hear them when #Arias hears them in open court
— Chris Williams (@chriswnews) March 6, 2013

by tesstruhart Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:17 pm

http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-LIVE-Jodi-Arias-murder-trial-185415702.html

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:20 pm

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by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:20 pm

60- sustained
75- 3 questions; Nurmi objects; sustained
90- Nurmi objects; sustained

State has no other objections.

Nurmi:
50- relevance; State says it is relevant; objection sustained on relevance;

55-part 2: needs clarification; State
Judge: Objection to question 1 &2 ?
Approach.

by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:21 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
carlakay wrote:I have to disagree with all of ya who think Jodi was or is a jealous woman. Jealousy is a self esteem issue..jealous women get upset and/ or angry with other women OR their man because they feel the other women are superior to them in some manner. I do not believe for one minute that Jodi Arias feels ANYONE is above her own wonderful self.

Disagree...she is most emphatically and obviously jealous and obsessed. I heard one psych on TV a couple weeks ago detailing Jodi's problems, (ie narcissism, etc.), and he said that low self esteem is part of it. She may come across as in control, but I can see that Jodi is insecure in a lot of ways, and I think others see that too.

Well it's ok we don't agree..and what you say about narcissism is correct,I just don't believe Jodi has that problem..I think she is a true sociopath.Sociopath's do not have normal feelings such as jealousy..they truly believe they are above everyone else..Jodi claims Travis made her feel like a goddess..I believe the truth in that statement is that she actually thinks she is one.

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:22 pm

Nurmi and the the proposed jury questions:

55- Objection overruled; judge will ask both questions

61-Question not specific enough; over ruled--- Nurmi can inquire about additional foundation; reference is clear as to June 2008 trip; approach

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:23 pm

http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/cbs-5-local-live-streaming
KPHO - Live Stream -- Phoenix, AZ

This link has Elizabeth Erwin's tweets to the right of the video box.

KPHO not streaming the trial yet. They just finished streaming the Giffords' appearance in Phoenix.

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:26 pm

carlakay wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:

Disagree...she is most emphatically and obviously jealous and obsessed. I heard one psych on TV a couple weeks ago detailing Jodi's problems, (ie narcissism, etc.), and he said that low self esteem is part of it. She may come across as in control, but I can see that Jodi is insecure in a lot of ways, and I think others see that too.

Well it's ok we don't agree..and what you say about narcissism is correct,I just don't believe Jodi has that problem..I think she is a true sociopath.Sociopath's do not have normal feelings such as jealousy..they truly believe they are above everyone else..Jodi claims Travis made her feel like a goddess..I believe the truth in that statement is that she actually thinks she is one.

You misunderstood. I did not mean Jodi has narcissism, I was only using that as an example, meaning the psych was detailing what he felt SHE DID HAVE.
It has also been said that she does a lot of 'mirroring' behavior of 'normal' people's responses. Jodi is an insecure person with low self esteem. I think this is obvious in many ways, ONLY SOME OF WHICH would be her lack of ability to keep even relatively dead end jobs, the fact that instead of making her own way she had desire to latch onto T. for money, status, etc. There are many other examples that show lack of self esteem. It is also typical that she creates a facade of appearing to be very confident and to come across as accomplished when she is not in reality.

by justanopinion Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:29 pm

JA is doodling... I wonder if she is writing JA Jodi Arias -- Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #5 - Page 12 2108

TA or Mrs.. TA ... sorry she really bothers me!!

I just feel so snarking seeing her!!

maybe her memoirs!!

by Mari 68 Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:30 pm

Is it just me or wishful thinking or what? But doesn't Jodi not looked pleased today?

Wonder if she's not liking the questions

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:32 pm

I would think no way will these questions all be answered today. The way she dances around and goes off on tangents, who knows how long this will take.
Will Juan be objecting, if she goes off on her tangents? I don't even know if that will be allowed...
Has she seen the questions? I would think she would NOT have been allowed to see the questions, hence giving her time to fabricate more bs lies.

by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:32 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
carlakay wrote:

Well it's ok we don't agree..and what you say about narcissism is correct,I just don't believe Jodi has that problem..I think she is a true sociopath.Sociopath's do not have normal feelings such as jealousy..they truly believe they are above everyone else..Jodi claims Travis made her feel like a goddess..I believe the truth in that statement is that she actually thinks she is one.

You misunderstood. I did not mean Jodi has narcissism, I was only using that as an example, meaning the psych was detailing what he felt SHE DID HAVE.
It has also been said that she does a lot of 'mirroring' behavior of 'normal' people's responses. Jodi is an insecure person with low self esteem. I think this is obvious in many ways, ONLY SOME OF WHICH would be her lack of ability to keep even relatively dead end jobs, the fact that instead of making her own way she had desire to latch onto T. for money, status, etc.

ok,yes I did misunderstand cuz aint no way her only issue is narcissism..lol

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:33 pm

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by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:34 pm

this is pissing me off and I aint even sure it should be..it is my understanding that the judge is pitching most of the jurors questions..am I right?

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:36 pm

tweet from Elizabeth Erwin - KPHO reporter:

elizabetherwin Ok but seriously, if they're going to have to approach to discuss EVERYTHING they might as well have done this in chambers! #JodiArias about 1 minute ago · reply · retweet · favorite

Source:

http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/cbs-5-local-live-streaming
KPHO - Phoenix, AZ - Jodi Arias Live Stream - Trial

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:38 pm

Jodi's hair is brought back away from face; more open appearing; still the bangs on forehead; she is writing right handed;

Nurmi as to jury's proposed questions:

89- Nurmi; State believes it is appropriate based on evidence introduced; objection sustained

62 - Nurmi; answer goes to privileged atty/client;
approach;

69- Nurmi: Q2/4; approach to read question together at bench; Q 4 will be prefaced, objection over ruled;

90- Nurmi: Tossed out

97- Nurmi; approach; over ruled to # 2; will be asked

74 - Nurmi; approach;

BTW: Did they take handwriting samples from BOTH of JA's hands? She is writing with r/h now.

Most of Travis' family present;
JA mother, aunt present; many empty chairs there

JA bored now; shut her writing journal

by tesstruhart Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:38 pm

@tess46 you be the judge. Def not winning a lot of objections to questions
— Chris Williams (@chriswnews) March 6, 2013

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:38 pm

tweet from Chris Williams, KPNX reporter - Phoenix, AZ

Chris Williams ‏@chriswnews

@tess46 you be the judge. Def not winning a lot of objections to questions

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:39 pm

lol, Tess! Great minds think alike!

by justanopinion Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:40 pm

I actually don't think it is a writing journal... she was flipping pages and I saw her lips move like she was rehearsing answers to the questions that they had problems with being included!! Oh I hope that I am wrong!!

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:41 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:I would think no way will these questions all be answered today. The way she dances around and goes off on tangents, who knows how long this will take.
Will Juan be objecting, if she goes off on her tangents? I don't even know if that will be allowed...
Has she seen the questions? I would think she would NOT have been allowed to see the questions, hence giving her time to fabricate more bs lies.

Good points!
Be in best interest IF Nurmi can keep these questions from being asked until NEXT WEEK! Wow. He will drag this out so he has plenty of time to chat with JA...
One problem: They don't know what winds of hell Martinez will bring! Laughing

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:42 pm

carlakay wrote:this is pissing me off and I aint even sure it should be..it is my understanding that the judge is pitching most of the jurors questions..am I right?

Relevance or repeat questions?

by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:44 pm

I am watching HLN and during one snippet between sidebars Nurmi objected to a question regarding the financial aspect of some sort of surgery she'd had. Juan argued it was relevant but judge pitched it despite the fact her boob job was mentioned in her testimony.

by tesstruhart Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:45 pm

If you use KY to lube a squeaky door at home.. you might be a #JodiArias trial follower.
— WildAboutTrial (@WildAboutTrial) March 6, 2013

by justanopinion Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:46 pm

Ann - Tx wrote:tweet from Chris Williams, KPNX reporter - Phoenix, AZ

Chris Williams ‏@chriswnews

@tess46 you be the judge. Def not winning a lot of objections to questions

he tweets one of the questions was on banned evidence... how would a juror know about banned evidence?

by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:46 pm

If you do not want a separate Twitter box with Chris Williams's tweets ( which you can place side by side with a Live Stream of your choice on your browser), you can follow his tweets below the video box of the Live Stream here:

http://www.azcentral.com/live/?event=030613-jodi-arias-trial
AZ Central - Phoenix, AZ - "Live Stream" - J. Arias trial

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:47 pm

carlakay wrote:I am watching HLN and during one snippet between sidebars Nurmi objected to a question regarding the financial aspect of some sort of surgery she'd had. Juan argued it was relevant but judge pitched it despite the fact her boob job was mentioned in her testimony.

Goes to medical. Privacy might be there? Maybe, wanted a name of a doctor ?

roflao

by tesstruhart Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:47 pm

wow we are up to #110 in question numbers...a multiparter too

by Bmore Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:47 pm

gotta wonder what the questions were that both sides wanted out...

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:48 pm

Yup, this question/answer thing is going to go on for a long time. One good thing, judge is asking the questions. If Jodi gets long winded or off the mark, maybe she will reign her in.
I am watching on HLN, so the tape is stopped for all commercials so we get to see it all. Nothing much happening yet. Noticed there seems to be a lot less people in courtroom. Kind of suprised.

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:48 pm

TwitterChris Williams @chriswnews
#JodiArias Sidebar 6 deserved RT of something I wrote Tue: AZ Seal "Ditat Deus" means "God Enriches" not "Home of the Sidebar" as suggested.

Laughing

by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:48 pm

Freckles wrote:
carlakay wrote:I am watching HLN and during one snippet between sidebars Nurmi objected to a question regarding the financial aspect of some sort of surgery she'd had. Juan argued it was relevant but judge pitched it despite the fact her boob job was mentioned in her testimony.
Goes to medical. Privacy might be there? Maybe, wanted a name of a doctor ?

nah..I bet they wanted to know who the hell paid for it considering the type of jobs she had.

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:49 pm

JA is wearing glasses for her seat work.

by Bmore Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:50 pm

it was financial about her boobs... probably how much did they cost, who paid... was she use to getting $$$ and expensive stuff from her lovers??? conman?

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:51 pm

Bmore wrote:gotta wonder what the questions were that both sides wanted out...

I would guess most are out due to legal reasons. In other words, I know there is one about her tire slashing but that is OUT---She will not be answering that. (Prejudicial stuff the jury didn't hear testimony about, but obviously is dying to know!)
Really what is the point? I think most of the questions I'd want to know are things the jury never got to hear, or they would only be answered with lies, so in a way I think this is pointless.
Honestly, I think the rebuttal case is what we should all be looking forward to, as well as Juan's closing.

by Bmore Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:52 pm

banned evidence??? hmmmmm could someone be watching TV when they get home....

by Freckles Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:52 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:Yup, this question/answer thing is going to go on for a long time. One good thing, judge is asking the questions. If Jodi gets long winded or off the mark, maybe she will reign her in.
I am watching on HLN, so the tape is stopped for all commercials so we get to see it all. Nothing much happening yet. Noticed there seems to be a lot less people in courtroom. Kind of suprised.

"Answer the question with a YES or a NO. Do you understand??"
"Could you explain what you mean by YES and by NO??"

by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:53 pm

Bmore wrote:it was financial about her boobs... probably how much did they cost, who paid... was she use to getting $$$ and expensive stuff from her lovers??? conman?

yeah and despite the fact that question wont be asked,much less answered,I am taking comfort in the knowledge someone is wondering something along those lines.

by Bmore Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:53 pm

well if I asked about the tires and nobody asked my question to the skank that would answer it for me...

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:54 pm

Bmore wrote:banned evidence??? hmmmmm could someone be watching TV when they get home....

Wish there was. This is all so unfair. They are not hearing a lot of evidence that is very pertinent IMO, and all in the name of 'too prejudicial' to poor Jodi. What about Travis and justice? Sigh...

by Bmore Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:55 pm

my human nature tells me if you're not going to give me an answer then you want my mind to run wild... Which might not be best for you...

by 18thcenturylady Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:55 pm

A juror definitely asked if she slashed tires. Judge did strike out the question. It will NOT be answered or asked.

by Weeziethm Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:55 pm

Just tuned in... JA not looking too chipper today. LOL.

by carlakay Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:56 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:Yup, this question/answer thing is going to go on for a long time. One good thing, judge is asking the questions. If Jodi gets long winded or off the mark, maybe she will reign her in.
I am watching on HLN, so the tape is stopped for all commercials so we get to see it all. Nothing much happening yet. Noticed there seems to be a lot less people in courtroom. Kind of suprised.

Well I am not counting on this judge keeping her reigned in. Out of all the trials I have witnessed I have never seen a judge appear so detached from what is going on. I keep telling myself that perhaps she is just still under the weather,tho.

by justanopinion Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:56 pm

I am dying to know if the juror questions indicate which way they are leaning!

by Bmore Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:57 pm

i'm bummed i thought this was going to be fun... she'd ask the questions and they'd fight like rabit dogs and she'd say yay or nay... but noooooo, it's a secret....

D-team in chambers? what's this???

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