Judge rules Wisconsin teens in 'Slender Man' stabbing case to be tried as adults

Judge rules Wisconsin teens in 'Slender Man' stabbing case to be tried as adults

Published August 11, 2015  ·  Associated Press


Aug. 10, 2015: One of the two girls accused of stabbing a classmate leaves a Waukesha County court room in Waukesha, Wis. The judge ruled that the two girls will stay in adult court, where they could face decades in prison. (Mike De Sisti/Milwaukee Journal Sentinel via AP, Pool)

WAUKESHA, Wis. –  A Wisconsin judge ruled Monday that two 13-year-old girls accused of stabbing a classmate to please the online horror character Slender Man will stay in adult court, where they could face a sentence of decades in prison.

Waukesha County Circuit Judge Michael Bohren said he was worried that the girls would stop receiving mental health treatment and be released into the community with no supervision when they exited the juvenile system at age 18. Keeping them in the adult system would protect people longer, the judge said.

"The real issue is what happens in a few years," Bohren said. "They've committed an offense that was ... frankly vicious."

The two girls, both wearing dresses and in shackles, said nothing during the 45-minute proceeding. One of them bounced in her chair until a bailiff whispered to her. She spent the rest of the hearing hunched over and glancing at the ceiling. The girls' attorneys also said nothing to the judge.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/11/judge-rules-wisconsin-teens-in-slender-man-stabbing-case-to-be-tried-as-adults/

Remorse? For the one girl, I am sure she is still suffering terrible emotional reactions to what she was coerced into doing that night. She should NOT be tried as an adult but needs tremendous counseling to become to come to terms with her own actions. (IIRC, she DID try to weakly question the other girl's actions that night.)

IIRC, the "leader" of this tragedy was the girl called Morgan.
She was hell bent on acting out her immature idealizations of Slenderman.
She bullied her friend into stabbing the third girl.
Morgan even planned this by asking the victim to her house for a "sleep over".
Morgan made sure the adults in the home were gone that night so she could carry out her nefarious actions.
We may be seeing a narcissist develop.

Morgan should be tried as a child.
She is legally a child.
She may have some screws loose but she is not and should not be culpable as an adult.
Try her, sentence her, apply long term parole, and make darn sure she is getting counseling.

The other girl needs to be institutionalized and given some lengthy counseling is a quiet and controlled environment.

The victim, too, will need some long term counseling.
She needs to be able to come to terms with what her "friends" did to her.
She needs to develop safe guards against anyone ever controlling her.
She needs to eventually move past this horrendous incident.

The parents ALL should be enrolled in counseling, child development classes, etc..

"....Their attorneys had argued they belong in juvenile court because their brains aren't fully developed, they suffer from mental illness and they won't get the treatment they need in the adult system. They also asked Bohren to find the state law forcing 10-year-olds into adult court unconstitutional because it leads to cruel and unusual punishment.

Bohren refused to find the statutes unconstitutional on Thursday, writing that juveniles aren't as culpable for their actions as adults but that doesn't exempt them from adult sentences. ?????

He rejected the rest of the defense teams' arguments on Monday. He acknowledged what he called the girls' delusions and mental illness, but said if he moved them into the juvenile system they'd be free and clear at age 18 with no oversight and no more treatment. If they are convicted as adults, they'd eventually be released on extended supervision and treatment would continue....."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/11/judge-rules-wisconsin-teens-in-slender-man-stabbing-case-to-be-tried-as-adults/

I don't much like the logic the judge used.

‘Slenderman’ suspects to be tried as adults

By Cortney Peltz
updated4:10 PM EDT, Tue August 11, 2015

•Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier allegedly stabbed a 12-year-old classmate 19 times
•The girls were allegedly trying to please the fictional Internet bogeyman ‘Slenderman’
• A judge ruled that Geyser and Weier, now 13, will be tried in adult court



Two teenage girls who allegedly stabbed a friend to impress a fictional Internet bogeyman will be tried in adult court, a Wisconsin judge ruled Monday.

In May 2014, Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier, who were both 12 years old at the time, allegedly stabbed a female classmate 19 times.

The victim survived and was taken to a hospital after a bicyclist found her crawling along a road in Waukesha.

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http://www.hlntv.com/article/2015/08/11/slenderman-suspects-adult-court

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Evidence pics: Inside 'Slender Man' suspect's notebook

See disturbing photos presented in court from one of the suspect's notebooks and doll collection

By Matthew Zarrell
updated1:56 PM EST, Fri February 20, 2015



Evidence presented in court for what is now known as the “Slender Man stabbing” includes disturbing images from one of the 12-year-old suspect’s notebooks as well as mutilated dolls.

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http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2015/02/20/slenderman-case-evidence-photos-notebook-dolls-photos

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Read more:

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/06/09/911-call-slenderman-stabbing-girls-arrested

Slender Man Stabbing Case: Not Guilty Plea Entered for Teen Girls
by The Associated Press  Aug 21 2015, 3:54 pm ET

...A judge entered not guilty pleas on behalf of both girls at a brief arraignment hearing Friday.

...The girls face 65 years in prison if convicted as adults. They have been in custody since being arrested the day of the attack.

Read more:  http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/slender-man-stabbing-case-teen-girls-plead-not-guilty-n413826

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 7h7 hours ago

#BREAKING: Oct 15th trial date set for #Slenderman defendants Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Slenderman&src=typd

Trial delayed for Slender Man stabbing suspects; appeals judge withdraws
Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:36 a.m. CDT

WAUKESHA, WI (WTAQ) - Adult trials have been delayed for two Waukesha girls accused of stabbing a classmate in allegiance to the horror character Slender Man.

http://wsau.com/news/articles/2015/oct/01/trial-delayed-for-slender-man-stabbing-suspects-appeals-judge-withdraws/

By Crimesider Staff / AP / April 13, 2016, 4:38 PM

Girls accused in Slender Man stabbing seek release

WAUKESHA, Wis. --Two Wisconsin girls accused of trying to kill their friend as a sacrifice to the horror fiction character Slender Man are seeking their release after nearly two years in custody, saying they're not dangerous and can return to family.

An attorney for one of the girls adds that his client is a vulnerable inmate at a county detention center where she was sexually assaulted last year.

A judge will consider the girls' requests Friday.

The prosecutor declined to comment on Wednesday.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/girls-accused-in-slender-man-stabbing-seek-release/

‘Slender Man’ suspect seeks placement with grandparents

Bruce Vielmetti, The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel  10:04 p.m. EDT April 13, 2016


(Photo: Charles Auer, AP)

MILWAUKEE — A Wisconsin girl charged in the Slender Man stabbing case wants to live with her grandparents until her trial and avoid becoming "institutionalized" at a juvenile jail where she's suffered assaults from other young inmates, according to a court filing.

The revelation comes at the end of a letter to the judge outlining Morgan Geyser's attorneys' plans for her placement should she be granted a bail reduction at a hearing set for Friday.

Geyser, 13, and Anissa Weier, 14, have been held at Washington County's secure juvenile detention center — except for stretches at a state mental hospital — since their arrests May 31, 2014, in a planned attack on a sixth-grade classmate, supposedly to please Slender Man, a fictional Internet character.

~Snipped~

Geyser and Weier are charged as adults with attempted first degree intentional homicide, but are awaiting a decision on their appeals of a judge's ruling against transferring them to juvenile court.

Each has also asked to reduce their $500,000 bails and be allowed to await trial away from the Washington County center, a facility meant to house children for a few days at time. A hearing is set for Friday in Waukesha County Circuit Court.

Geyser has been diagnosed with early onset schizophrenia. She spent several weeks earlier this year at a state mental hospital, where she responded to treatment and is now stabilized.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/04/13/slender-man-suspect-seeks-placement-grandparents/83013248/

The one girl should be kept locked up. Her home, her ideas, her instigation, her premeditation. The other girl? Shy, friendless, quiet... she desperately needs help. There is no way either should be returned to society at this time. The instigator will think she got by with the crime... and the other girl is very vulnerable to peer influence.

One of two Slender Man stabbing teens faces 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to a lesser charge for 'attacking her classmate to impress the fictitious horror character'

".. The plea means her trial next month will look only at whether she is legally responsible for the crime or not guilty because of mental illness.

She could face 10 years in prison if she's found guilty. If not, she'll spend three years in a mental hospital.

Prosecutors allege she and her co-defendant, Morgan Geyser, stabbed their classmate 19 times in a Waukesha park and left her for dead following a sleepover.

The two teens then allegedly planned to walk hundreds of miles north to meet Slender Man in a forest.

Leutner managed to crawl out of the woods to a path where she was found by a bicyclist with stab wounds to her chest, abdomen and arms....."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4810128/Teen-pleads-guilty-lesser-charge-Slender-Man-attack.html

Slender man stab teen in court for jury selection as she faces trial for trying to kill her friend to please fictional character

"....A jury has been selected to decide the mental competency of a girl accused of stabbing a classmate in 2014 to please a fictional horror character known as Slender Man.

Anissa Weier, 15, has pleaded not guilty due to mental illness in a stabbing that nearly took the life of classmate Payton Leutner at a park in Waukesha, Wisconsin when the girls were aged 12.

She appeared at at Waukesha County Courthouse on Monday for the jury selection in the case.

Prosecutors allege she and Geyser stabbed their classmate 19 times in a Waukesha park and left her for dead following a sleepover on Memorial Day 2014. ....."


"... Prosecutors allege she and Geyser stabbed their classmate 19 times in a Waukesha park and left her for dead following a sleepover on Memorial Day 2014.

The two teens then allegedly planned to walk hundreds of miles north to meet Slender Man in a forest.

Leutner managed to crawl out of the woods to a path where she was found by a bicyclist with stab wounds to her chest, abdomen and arms.

Doctors later stated that the knife passed less than a millimeter from a major artery, leaving Payton 'the width of a human hair' away from death. ..."


"....In the plea deal, Weier will serve 10 years in prison if she's found not to have been mentally ill.

But a judge could sentence her to as many as 25 years behind bars. ...."


"... Those selected will be sequestered by Monday evening as Weier's trial is set to begin on Tuesday morning. ..."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4873832/Jury-selected-Slender-Man-stabbing-case.html

Lawyer for delusional teenager, 15, says she was under 'command and control' of her 'broken mind' when she stabbed 12-year-old friend to please fictional character Slenderman

"....Anissa and Morgan were both charged with first degree intentional murder and are being tried as adults.

Anissa has since pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of attempted second degree murder, entering a guilty by way of insanity plea.

The ongoing trial is to assess her mental competency and will determine whether she should be sentenced to a prison sentence or if she will be sent to a psychiatric facility.

If she is convicted, she could spend 10 years or more in behind bars.

Geyser has pleaded not guilty to being a party to attempted first degree murder. Her trial will begin in October.

On Monday, Anissa's lawyer said she should not be sent to prison because she was not in control of her mind when she attacked Payton. ...."


"... 'They knew this was wrong. They understood what they were doing was wrong,' attorney Kevin Osborne said....."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4877248/Teen-Slenderman-stabbing-broken-mind.html

vids on page

Slender Man teen AVOIDS jail for attempted murder: Girl, 15, who nearly stabbed her friend to death to please mythical character is found insane and will spend three years in a mental institution

"...A 15-year-old Wisconsin girl who admitted to participating in the stabbing of a classmate to please horror character Slender Man will avoid prison after a jury determined Friday that she was mentally ill at the time of the attack.

Before jury deliberations Friday, Anissa Weier's attorney told the court his client was lonely, depressed and 'descended into madness,' as he pleaded with a jury to send the girl to a mental hospital rather than prison.

Weier and Morgan Geyser lured classmate Payton Leutner into the woods at a park in Waukesha, a Milwaukee suburb, in 2014.

Geyser stabbed Leutner 19 times while Weier urged her on, according to investigators.

The decision means Weier will be sent to a mental hospital rather than prison. A plea agreement calls for her to spend at least three years at a hospital. ..."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4890066/Lawyer-Slenderman-attacker-says-teen-went-madness.html

'I tackled her, I stabbed her': Slenderman attack girl, 15, cries as she describes luring her classmate to a woodland clearing before stabbing her 19 times

"... Morgan Geyser, now 15, lured Payton Leutner to a woodland clearing in Waukesha, Wisconsin, before tackling her to the ground and stabbing her 'everywhere' as her friend Anissa Weier urged her on.

Leutner, who like her attackers was 12 at the time, survived the attack by crawling out of the trees and flagging down a passing cyclist.

Geyser told the court: 'Anissa and I took [her] in the forest and said that we were going to play hide and seek.'

'Anissa said that she couldn't do it and that I had to. I tackled her. I stabbed her.'

Geyser pleaded guilty to first-degree intentional homicide over the 2014 stabbing in an agreement with prosecutors to avoid prison time.

The plea agreement calls for Geyser to be found not guilty by reason of insanity, meaning she will be committed to a mental hospital for 40 years....."



"... During a hearing in August, Weier said that she didn't want to harm Leutner and that the stabbing plot was Geyser's idea.

She said she participated because she was afraid of what would happen if she didn't....."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4953736/The-Latest-Girl-Slender-Man-attack-wrote-victim-letter.html

She is putting the blame on Anissa. IMO, Morgan was the leader. Anissa was unable to do the stabbings....

'Slender Man' movie will not be shown in theaters near Milwaukee-area where two girls stabbed their friend 19 times because of the fictional character

"....The film comes four years after Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser lured Leutner to a wooded park in Waukesha.

Geyser then stabbed Leutner 19 times, narrowly missing her heart, as Weier urged her on.

Weier and Geyser, who were both 12 at the time, told detectives they had to kill Leutner to prove to Slenderman that they were worthy of being his servants as well as protect their families from him. ...."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6044781/Slender-Man-movie-not-shown-Milwaukee-theaters.html

Monday, Jan 7th 2019
Girl who stabbed her classmate 19 times in a Slender Man attack is appealing her 40-year sentence because 'she was young and believed the fictional character ordered her to kill'

"....An attorney for Morgan Geyser, now 17, recently filed a court brief arguing that Geyser shouldn't have been prosecuted as an adult because the girl believed Slender Man would kill her family if she didn't stab her sixth-grade classmate.

Geyser and co-defendant Anissa Weier were committed to mental health institutions for stabbing Payton Leutner at a Waukesha park in 2014. ...."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6565487/Girl-convicted-Slender-Man-stabbing-files-appeal.html


PS
When my kids entered kindergarten. I was asked if they understood the difference between reality and fantasy...... Don't they ask the question any more???

'They told me to lie on the ground and hide... but it was a trick': Slender Man stabbing victim breaks her silence five years after her friends plunged a knife into her 19 times and left her for dead in the woods when they were just 12

".....Payton Leutner, now 17, was interviewed for the first time about the attack by ABC's David Muir for an episode of 20/20 which will air on Friday October 25 at 9pm EST.

In that interview, she recalled being lured into the woods by her so-called friends, Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier, in a suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, in 2014.

'They just wanted to go on a walk. And I didn't think much of it, it's just a walk. It's in Waukesha, what bad stuff happens in Waukesha, Wisconsin?' she said.  ....."


"....Geyser was sentenced to 40 years and Weier was sentenced to 25 years in custody.

Prosecutors charged them both with first degree murder.

Even though it was Geyser who did the stabbing, they said Weier was just as responsible because she helped plan it and set the stage for the attack. ....."


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7606189/Slender-Man-stabbing-victim-breaks-silence-five-years-late.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed

Slender Man attacker loses appeal on her conviction for repeatedly stabbing a classmate because she was 'possessed' by the fictional horror character

".... Geyser, now 18, pleaded guilty to first-degree attempted homicide and in 2017 was found not guilty by reason of insanity. She was sentenced to 40 years in a mental health institution.   ..."


".... Geyser and her co-defendant Weier had admitted to luring Leutner from a sleepover to a wooded park in Waukesha, a Milwaukee suburb, in 2014. All three girls were 12 at the time.

Weier stabbed Leutner 19 times while Geyser urged her on, according to investigators.

The girls left Leutner for dead but she survived by crawling out of the woods to a path where a passing bicyclist found her....."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8619963/1-2-girls-convicted-Slender-Man-stabbing-loses-appeal.html

".....They later told detectives that they believed Leutner would not survive.

'So, we told her we we're gonna get help, but we really weren't. We were going to run and let her - pass away,' Weier told detectives.

Geyser, after describing the crime in a separate interview, became worried about how much she had revealed.

In a clip from her interrogation, she confessed: 'I might as well just say it, we were trying to kill her. Will I regret giving you this information later?' ....."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8619963/1-2-girls-convicted-Slender-Man-stabbing-loses-appeal.html