Amanda Blackburn Unsolved Homicide

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Randie wrote:This is a profound comment over at PH's....
"Speaking of the press conference video, while this is not entirely statement analysis, I noticed that when reporters questioned (two separate times) the investigator and the prosecutor about ties between the Blackburns/their neighborhood and the gang, both men turned and glanced at someone behind them and to the left off camera. These two times were the only times such hesitancy was shown. Both times resulted in a non-answer. The detective states, "I don't know." The prosecutor states, "I think it is fair to say there is no reason that is the case." To me, the need to turn and glance for reassurance before answering these questions indicate that there is ongoing investigation into Davey Blackburn, and they are not willing or ready to reveal that to the public."

Reason?  Reason?  Why not just say (I think it is fair to say that is not the case).....?  Because they can't, in this way they truly are not clearing Davey 100 percent.

crimeq wrote:Hi everybody!  I see a couple of familiar faces here, Randie and Shelley! :)  I'm looking forward to posting with everyone re: this case.  It's so sad but it has captured my interest completely.

More tomorrow ... just checking to be sure my new sign-in works, and it does!

oxfordfox2 wrote:I'm here and thanks so much to everyone who helped me get here. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to read and post!!
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oxfordfox2 wrote:Wow we got Shelly and Crime and Randie. We infidels are almost all here!!
I tell you, Davey Blackburn was thrilled that his problem with his wife was solved and nobody can shake me of that notion. Can I prove it? No. Do I feel it? With every molecule of my being. I can tell you when I had the same feeling of knowing. The press was hot on the heels of Gary Condit when he was suspected of murdering Chanda Levy. Then 9/11 happened and all the news trucks pulled away from the Levys' home and the baying newshounds turned away from Condit. I don't know to this day whether Condit had anything to do with her murder but I know on some deep level that when 9/11 happened Condit felt like the luckiest man in America. I feel the exact same about Davey Blackburn.

Shelley'sMom wrote:Hi Randie and crimeq and everyone!

I just wanted to pipe in and say that it has bothered me from very early on that the crime scene was released so quickly and that Davey was declared 100% cleared within the first few days. In fairness, I don't remember if the 100% cleared statement was from official LE or a media "leak". I am just so put off by DB and convinced he is a narcissist, that I would prefer that he would be looked at a little more closely. Then again, there have always been cases where people have been given enough rope (or time) to hang themselves. I sincerely hope, for the baby's sake that Davey is as innocent as the driven snow.

Another nagging question, does anyone know if there was life insurance on Amanda? I know that there is some fundraising going on for Davey and Weston (t-shirt sales) Child care will be a big expense.

Nan11 wrote:

oxfordfox2 wrote:Wow we got Shelly and Crime and Randie. We infidels are almost all here!!
I tell you, Davey Blackburn was thrilled that his problem with his wife was solved and nobody can shake me of that notion. Can I prove it? No. Do I feel it? With every molecule of my being. I can tell you when I had the same feeling of knowing. The press was hot on the heels of Gary Condit when he was suspected of murdering Chanda Levy. Then 9/11 happened and all the news trucks pulled away from the Levys' home and the baying newshounds turned away from Condit. I don't know to this day whether Condit had anything to do with her murder but I know on some deep level that when 9/11 happened Condit felt like the luckiest man in America. I feel the exact same about Davey Blackburn.

I hope you all don't mind if I hang out a little?  

I promise I won't bother you too much.  I just have a little bit of time now and then--mostly I have been hanging out to help Randie keep the thread alive until everyone got in and settled.

I sincerely find this a case worth following, though.

BBM - I absolutely agree!  And I'll add--I won't be at all surprised if we find out there was involvement.  Just sayin'

Shelley'sMom wrote:

oxfordfox2 wrote:I'm here and thanks so much to everyone who helped me get here. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to read and post!!
OXFORDFOX2

Hi foxy! When you figure it out maybe you can clue me in

ETA I love the email alerts to new posts!

Nan11 wrote:Has everyone see these two videos?  Wel, well, well.  Oh, my.  Don't miss the second vid--he goes on a little rampage (as part of an on-stage sermon) with an air soft gun--just several days prior to Amanda's murder.


 

(Okay, I'm out of here now.)  

Shelley'sMom wrote:I have another question if anyone knows. Has information on the murder weapon been released? I remember in one video DB mentions having a gun, (not the airsoft one above). I wonder if Amanda tried to use it to defend herself and it was turned against her.

Shelley'sMom wrote:I have another question if anyone knows. Has information on the murder weapon been released? I remember in one video DB mentions having a gun, (not the airsoft one above). I wonder if Amanda tried to use it to defend herself and it was turned against her

Nan11 wrote:

Randie wrote:This is a profound comment over at PH's....
"Speaking of the press conference video, while this is not entirely statement analysis, I noticed that when reporters questioned (two separate times) the investigator and the prosecutor about ties between the Blackburns/their neighborhood and the gang, both men turned and glanced at someone behind them and to the left off camera. These two times were the only times such hesitancy was shown. Both times resulted in a non-answer. The detective states, "I don't know." The prosecutor states, "I think it is fair to say there is no reason that is the case." To me, the need to turn and glance for reassurance before answering these questions indicate that there is ongoing investigation into Davey Blackburn, and they are not willing or ready to reveal that to the public."

Reason?  Reason?  Why not just say (I think it is fair to say that is not the case).....?  Because they can't, in this way they truly are not clearing Davey 100 percent.

I looked up the presser because--being such a late comer to the case--I had never heard it.

I lost count of the number of times it was stated they would only discuss the details "set-forth" in the probable cause affidavit. (There is usually a lot that they don't put in those things.)

The reporters get him to say at the end that "the investigation has not ended as of this afternoon (Nov. 23/15); and will continue, including any further forensic analysis that is appropriate and ongoing at this time."  Although the question was related to whether or not Amanda had been sexually assaulted--it certainly does seem that there could be much still on going.

Starting at about 9:00 minutes in is the "I don't know" statement; and at about 11:10 minutes in, is the prosecutor's statement.

Maybe it's "fair" to say for now--until they find something that makes it "fair" to say otherwise?  

Randie wrote:I DON'T understand calling 911 and saying she was injured. Couldn't he SEE gunshot wounds!

Nan11 wrote:

crimeq wrote:Hi everybody!  I see a couple of familiar faces here, Randie and Shelley! :)  I'm looking forward to posting with everyone re: this case.  It's so sad but it has captured my interest completely.

More tomorrow ... just checking to be sure my new sign-in works, and it does!

oxfordfox2 wrote:I'm here and thanks so much to everyone who helped me get here. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to read and post!!
OXFORDFOX2

   

Randie wrote:Davey Blackburn tweet
"Jesus is a master surgeon. Though it may be painful, trust his healing scalpel."

Why in the world would he use this quote??!!  His wife was just brutaly and violently murdered.  A scalpel is used to cut out cancer, gangrene, goiters...etc...  

Surgeon?
Painful?
Scalpel?
What was so bad in his life that it had to be cut out??!!!!

He makes me sick!

Nan11 wrote:

oxfordfox2 wrote:Wow we got Shelly and Crime and Randie. We infidels are almost all here!!
I tell you, Davey Blackburn was thrilled that his problem with his wife was solved and nobody can shake me of that notion. Can I prove it? No. Do I feel it? With every molecule of my being. I can tell you when I had the same feeling of knowing. The press was hot on the heels of Gary Condit when he was suspected of murdering Chanda Levy. Then 9/11 happened and all the news trucks pulled away from the Levys' home and the baying newshounds turned away from Condit. I don't know to this day whether Condit had anything to do with her murder but I know on some deep level that when 9/11 happened Condit felt like the luckiest man in America. I feel the exact same about Davey Blackburn.

I hope you all don't mind if I hang out a little?  

I promise I won't bother you too much.  I just have a little bit of time now and then--mostly I have been hanging out to help Randie keep the thread alive until everyone got in and settled.

I sincerely find this a case worth following, though.

BBM - I absolutely agree!  And I'll add--I won't be at all surprised if we find out there was involvement.  Just sayin'

Shelley'sMom wrote:Hi Randie and crimeq and everyone!

I just wanted to pipe in and say that it has bothered me from very early on that the crime scene was released so quickly and that Davey was declared 100% cleared within the first few days. In fairness, I don't remember if the 100% cleared statement was from official LE or a media "leak". I am just so put off by DB and convinced he is a narcissist, that I would prefer that he would be looked at a little more closely. Then again, there have always been cases where people have been given enough rope (or time) to hang themselves. I sincerely hope, for the baby's sake that Davey is as innocent as the driven snow.

Another nagging question, does anyone know if there was life insurance on Amanda? I know that there is some fundraising going on for Davey and Weston (t-shirt sales) Child care will be a big expense.

Randie wrote:
Are you kidding Nan CHIME in!  Please stay and post a bunch!

Randie wrote:Yup Nan!!!  Isn't it crazy his rampage!  No way would  I want this man around any of my daughters.

Shelley'sMom wrote:I have another question if anyone knows. Has information on the murder weapon been released? I remember in one video DB mentions having a gun, (not the airsoft one above). I wonder if Amanda tried to use it to defend herself and it was turned against her.

Randie wrote:

Shelley'sMom wrote:I have another question if anyone knows. Has information on the murder weapon been released? I remember in one video DB mentions having a gun, (not the airsoft one above). I wonder if Amanda tried to use it to defend herself and it was turned against her.

If I havae this right;;;;;  She has three shots to her body (but always wondered if one was because it went thru her arm and out her back) and one bullet was lodged in the bottom of a staircase.  This is why they went back with chain saws.  But, I've always wondered.....how did they KNOW to go back and check the bottom of the staircase......................................

Randie wrote:

Shelley'sMom wrote:I have another question if anyone knows. Has information on the murder weapon been released? I remember in one video DB mentions having a gun, (not the airsoft one above). I wonder if Amanda tried to use it to defend herself and it was turned against her

Also, I think someone on RC or PH's pointed out the trajectory of the one that went thru her arm and then down her back, ask if the killer was over her while she was hunched over trying to defend herself.  But as for weapon itself that either havent released it or it hasn't been found

Shelley'sMom wrote:Hmmmm, LE is keeping a lot close to the vest. Murder weapon, 911 call, any plea deals for info...Smart on LE's part, but frustrating to me, lol.

crimeq wrote:

Randie wrote:I DON'T understand calling 911 and saying she was injured. Couldn't he SEE gunshot wounds!

Even if he couldn't see the gunshot wounds, his wife was face down in a pool of blood with her panties removed, placed beside her, and her shirt pulled up.  He doesn't see this as a break-in scenario, a bad intent scenario?  Does he think she stubbed her toe and fell down?

I find it very strange that he didn't ask for all kinds of help right off the bat.  I really want to hear that 911 call.

It's also curious to me that Davey's call to 911 was about 5 minutes after the neighbor whose house was burgled, two doors down, had just returned from a trip.  Davey was sitting in his car in his driveway when that woman returned home from her trip; he was still on the phone with his pal, but then the call was finished and he went into his house and found Amanda, called 911 within minutes of the burgled neighbor (neither 911 call has been released to the public, darn it, Indiana can do that!).

Also, he was talking to his buddy - same day, same time every week they had a scheduled, long talk.  For some reason, after their conversation on this day, his buddy posted a tweet about having just talked to Davey.  He had never done that before.  Setting a timeline alibi?  Did Davey ask him to tweet something?  (Hmmm, wish I know where to look for that tweet.)

It's hinkey to me that the burgled house was empty - resident gone on a trip.  The perps burgled that house and then hung around in the house drinking beer and wine, IIRC.  What burglars do that?  Hit and run, get the heck away from the scene of the crime!  I don't recall exactly how much time they spent there but they were still in the neighborhood for over an hour, I know that.  Their car was packed with stolen loot including FOUR televisions from the burgled house; one guy remained in the car, in that person's driveway, while the other two walked two doors down to the Blackburn house and entered through the FRONT door (different MO than the two burglaries earlier that morning) ... and how convenient that the door was unlocked.

Assuming they were going to steal something; there were already 4 TVs and other loot in the escape car; there were 3 of them who had to fit in the car; they're looking to steal something from another house, really?  Where were they going to put it?

It seems like the perps may have known exactly how much time they had to play with, stretched it out until Davey left for the gym, and then went into the unlocked Blackburn residence.  The time of day was odd; what fools of burglars are in the neighborhood (a cul-de-sac at that) hanging around AFTER looting a house.  Were they on a schedule to enter the Blackburn house, after Davey left for the gym?

Oh, I have so many questions and it's so late.  More later!

So glad to be here posting with everybody!

Love my weekly convos with @daveyblackburn! So refreshing to have a true friend to do life with.

— Kenneth Wagner (@kennethwagner) November 10, 2015

Randie wrote:WABAM!  PH's has his sleuthing/deception hat on again!!!

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/12/blackburn-murder-co-occurring-deception.html

crimeq wrote:Also, his wife's recently deceased body was carved up to provide organs for donation.  While I support organ donation, I think it must be very difficult to know that  one's spouse is literally being taken apart.

His choice of words is telling, IMO.

Yes, what was so bad in his marriage that it had to be cut out?  Or shot out?  (Did you see the video of his sermon where he used an airgun to SHOOT out life's problems (and turn them over to worship).  He named problems one-by-one and pointed the gun at it and pulled the trigger.  He got rid of his life's problems by shooting them.

Two days after that gun sermon, Amanda was killed by a gun.

oxfordfox2 wrote:I can't figure out how to get the quotes to work right, but to Nan and Randie's comments about LE in the presser looking back nervously before answering questions, I think that might indicate that they know something about a possible link between "someone" and the gang that they are not sharing. I am so glad that we are here and can freely discuss all this without being censured.

oxfordfox2 wrote:From Randie: "The detective states, "I don't know." The prosecutor states, "I think it is fair to say there is no reason that is the case." To me, the need to turn and glance for reassurance before answering these questions indicate that there is ongoing investigation into Davey Blackburn, and they are not willing or ready to reveal that to the public."
Wow just wow, his use of the word fair is very interesting. When I say I want to be fair about something I want to say about someone, I usually use it about someone I have a negative view of, but I censure myself and force myself to play devil's advocate in my effort to be "fair". There is almost always some suppression of my real thoughts going on in my mind as the better part of me tries to suppress the impulsive part of me that is chafing at the bit with torches and a hanging rope, wanting to string somebody up. I am aware that I do this. I wonder if LE is doing the same?

Randie wrote:December 18, 2015 article:

Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry announced Friday Larry Jo Taylor Jr. and Jalen Watson face charges in a burglary and rape that occurred on Nov. 3 on the west side.

According to court documents, the two men entered the victim’s apartment while she was alone. They demanded money and asked where her bank cards were.

Taylor allegedly sexually assaulted the victim at gunpoint while Watson went through the apartment, taking items that belonged to the victim and her roommate.

http://cbs4indy.com/2015/12/18/suspe...separate-case/

Randie wrote:Also ""The report states that Taylor sexually assaulted the victim at gun point, while Watson ransacked the apartment.

The victim’s vehicle was recovered on Nov. 15 in the same area the suspects sold the stolen items.

Taylor was identified through DNA from the sexual assault.

Police believe that several of the stolen items were later sold to individuals near 56th and Georgetown Road."

Nan11 wrote:

Randie wrote:
Are you kidding Nan CHIME in!  Please stay and post a bunch!

   It's been a while since a new case interested me this much.

Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention.

Nan11 wrote:

Randie wrote:WABAM!  PH's has his sleuthing/deception hat on again!!!

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/12/blackburn-murder-co-occurring-deception.html

 I hope he keeps following this, too.  I notice he is getting a lot of comments.

His posts are so thought provoking--I wonder if "the secret" was something Amanda knew and therein could lie a motive?  Or, is "the secret" his [possible] involvement in his wife's murder?

Freckles wrote:Not sure is this has been shared:

Home invaders who shot and killed pastor's pregnant wife are now charged with raping another woman at gunpoint just a week before

"...Larry Taylor, 18, and Jalen Watson, 21, have been charged with killing Amanda Blackburn in her Indianapolis home on November 10

Police said they robbed and attacked another woman on November 3

Taylor allegedly raped her at gunpoint while Watson took items

A cell phone, purse, laptop, jewelry, headphones, and television, as well as the victim's car, were all stolen from the victim's apartment

Taylor was charged with rape after police found DNA evidence

Police said Taylor, Watson and Diano Gordon burglarized two residences before they arrived at Blackburn's home

Gordon and Watson allegedly stole her debit card and drove to an ATM..."

Much more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3366677/Men-accused-Amanda-Blackburn-charged-burglarizing-raping-woman.html

Randie wrote:Ok....what I have cut and pated came from PH's Page of comments.  If someone else is good at reading affidavits maybe they can confirm this post:  I find it weird and upseting.

(First, the vodka story. The victim who is in the bedroom with Taylor relates that the last time Jalen enters the bedroom he brings a bottle of vodka from the freezer. The bottle is handed to the suspect with orders to drink all of it, and she began to consume it as ordered (how, we don't know, as she was previously flat on her face on the ground and does not mention a change in position).

Why?

Second, the call to her mom. The suspect relates to police that she got dressed, ran to her neighbor's apartment and banged on the door, and once let in she called 911 on her neighbor's phone. When questioned, the neighbor tells LE that the suspect made two calls, the first one to her mother, the second to LE.)

Randie wrote:I have followed Peter for 5 years now.  At most maybe 150 to 200 comments at a time.  Now it is 400 or more at a time.  I luv it!  Peter won't let go of this one.  He is not fully convinced DB had her killed buthe is fully convinced DB is guilty of something bad and it is leaking out in red flags!!!  

Ya know that feeling when you just can't put your finger on it?!  Well, this last article hit me and I said: " Yes, this is it! This is exactly why I feel hinky about him!!!"