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Post by Snaz Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm

I just discovered that a new document was filed with Orange County today by the State.

It has to do with certification of documents from Henkel. It appears the duct tape in question was manufactured in Ohio and was only sold after 2004 for about a year or so in a couple of select stores - Lowe's being one of them. The Certification was filed 9-3-09.

http://www.filedropper.com/henkeldocscertification

Very interesting information........


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Post by Snaz Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 pm

Here's the real goods!!!!!!!!

State: Duct Tape In Anthony Case 'Rare'
Prosecution Plans To Link Tape Found On Caylee's Body To Gas Can
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Thursday, September 3, 2009
UPDATED: 7:35 pm EDT September 3, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Duct tape found both on Caylee Anthony’s body and a gas can found in the Anthony family home is a rare, industrial fire-resistant tape, according to a court filing Thursday by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office.

And prosecutors said they intend to use the evidence at trial, where they will claim Casey Anthony murdered her daughter and dumped the body -- the rare duct tape still attached to her skull nearly six months later.

Investigators believe both the gas can and the body were at one time in the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car.

The industrial fire-resistant tape, marketed as “Fire Guard DUCK,” was manufactured by Henkel Consumer Adhesives, of Avon, Ohio.


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Post by Justice4all Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:07 pm

This finding pretty much erases any doubts about the duct tape link. This will be one of the many things that helps nail KC. The article states that this duct tape is so rare that there would be about 250,000 to 1 odds of two randomly discovered pieces of duct tape being this same, rare type.
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Post by Snaz Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:08 pm

Oh, my my....... This is the best news for the State in a long time..... and the WORST news for the defense!!

Now I'm really banking on this industrial strength duct tape holding one of more of KC's fingerprints!!! Very Happy
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Post by Piper Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:16 am

There is also speculation that this tape may have come from the car dealership where George worked at one time. Is George a thief as well? Given the rarity of this duct tape, there is no way it's just a coincidence of the tape found on Caylee being the same as on the gas can. I'd say no doubt about it, KC's prints are there.
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Post by Snaz Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:39 am

Piper wrote:There is also speculation that this tape may have come from the car dealership where George worked at one time. Is George a thief as well? Given the rarity of this duct tape, there is no way it's just a coincidence of the tape found on Caylee being the same as on the gas can. I'd say no doubt about it, KC's prints are there.

Piper, I agree about the fingerprints..... the duct tape found on both the gas cans from the A's house and on Caylee's skull was industrial strength. Until I hear at trial, or see documentation, that says KC's prints (specifically KC) were NOT on the tape, I will continue to believe there is no way KC could have touched that tape, placing several pieces over the mouth and nose, and NOT left fingerprints. The mere fact that the pieces were overlapped would protect the prints, IMO.

There is a discussion on just this topic in the 'Case Against KC' thread.......
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Post by Snaz Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:29 pm

If anyone is having a problem opening the file dropper file I posted above, here is another link:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10725800/Henkel-Tape-Specs
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Post by Booklover Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:39 am

Snaz wrote:Here's the real goods!!!!!!!!

State: Duct Tape In Anthony Case 'Rare'
Prosecution Plans To Link Tape Found On Caylee's Body To Gas Can
Tony Pipitone

POSTED: Thursday, September 3, 2009
UPDATED: 7:35 pm EDT September 3, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Duct tape found both on Caylee Anthony’s body and a gas can found in the Anthony family home is a rare, industrial fire-resistant tape, according to a court filing Thursday by the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office.

And prosecutors said they intend to use the evidence at trial, where they will claim Casey Anthony murdered her daughter and dumped the body -- the rare duct tape still attached to her skull nearly six months later.

Investigators believe both the gas can and the body were at one time in the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car.

The industrial fire-resistant tape, marketed as “Fire Guard DUCK,” was manufactured by Henkel Consumer Adhesives, of Avon, Ohio.


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Fantastic find, Snaz! hug You would make an excellent Prosecutor, in my opinion. study The Duct Tape 88030 The Duct Tape 179695 The Duct Tape 541830 The Duct Tape 540129 This is just one more blow for the Defense. The Duct Tape 86558 I'd sure love to hear what Jose Baez thinks about this finding. I'm sure it must be something like this The Duct Tape 858297 I'd also love to hear what George & Cindy have to say about this latest piece of evidence. Laughing The Duct Tape 451488
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Post by FystyAngel Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:37 pm

I think it's amazing how LE can find out exactly where & when the tape is made & sold. This is exceptional. I don't think there is any way that the Anthony's can get out outof this one, though I do believe that CA will come up with some lie and/or excuse. The closer it gets to the trial, the more excited I get to watch them all sqirm!
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Post by Booklover Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:12 pm

From what I've read about pathological liars, they will never admit that they have lied. Not ever! No Even when they are caught red handed, and their lies are proven to be just that, lies. awe Their main goal is to always deny in any given situation. Cell Isn't that just what Casey does, and has always done from the beginning? How about George & Cindy? Same deal here. It runs in the family. Rolling Eyes The Duct Tape 996823 The Duct Tape 540129
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Post by Snaz Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:13 am

Discovery released 9-29-09:

Henkel Product Specification (.pdf document)

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147538/detail.html
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Post by Snaz Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:46 pm

Discovery released 9-29-09:

Henkel Product Specification (.pdf document)

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147538/detail.html
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Post by Snaz Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:07 pm

WFTV Discovers Possible Duct Tape Link In Casey Case

Posted: 5:06 pm EDT October 2, 2009
Updated: 6:37 pm EDT October 2, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- It's the duct tape that could strengthen the link between Casey Anthony and her daughter's body and it was discovered only by Eyewitness News.

Eyewitness News found the same rare type of tape that was found on Caylee's skull being used by the Anthony family on a Caylee Anthony poster.

You can't buy the tape from Home Depot. It is industrial-grade duct tape that hasn't been sold in years.

With the debate over the duct tape evidence intensifying this week, Eyewitness News re-analyzed video that was taken in the months before Caylee's body was found.

The discovery could make it even more difficult for the defense to argue that Casey didn't put the tape over Caylee's mouth. The defense has really been trying to shoot down the duct tape evidence recently.

"If the defense tries to advance that, that it was one of the volunteers that took that tape, killed the child, put the tape over the child's face to frame Casey, that strains credibility and it will turn the jury off," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

However, the video taken by Eyewitness News on July 20, 2008 just days after Casey's arrest and one month after Caylee Anthony disappeared, shows that the duct tape on the Anthonys' Caylee posters has the same unique markings as the duct tape on the Anthonys' gas can and the tape found over Caylee's mouth.

A photo of the duct tape on the Anthonys' gas can, which is the one Casey is accused of stealing from her parents in June of 2008, shows distinct markings that it's made by the Henkel Company and shows some of the specifications.

In July of 2008, the Anthonys had set up a command post and put up posters with Caylee's photo on them. They used what appeared to be the same duct tape with Henkel logo.

Both pieces, which apparently came from the Anthonys' home, appear to be the same kind of rare duct tape according to page number 3378 in the state's case file, (read document) that investigators found over Caylee's mouth when her remains were found in the woods near the Anthonys' home.

Page number 3378, shows that the FBI says the duct tape found over Caylee's skull showed the same black oval Henkel logo and the "spec max temp 200 degrees Fahrenheit"

The FBI says it's an industrial tape that hasn't been made for years.

Eyewitness News received a response from the defense team's public relations representative Marti McKenzie.

"The defense team won't respond to anything that hasn’t been entered as evidence in the case," McKenzie said.

Court documents show the defense has had the FBI photos of the duct tape that was over Caylee's mouth, showing the Henkel logo which matches the Anthonys' duct tape, since March.


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http://www.wftv.com/news/21185313/detail.html

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http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21184243/detail.html

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http://www.wftv.com/video/21186456/index.html
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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:42 pm

Could this be more pieces of the duct tape in question????? What do you think? I've been reading lots of discussion about this.

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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:55 pm

Here's another poster that appears to have been put up with duct tape. IIRC, this is the front door of JB's office, but I am not positive. Maybe one of you knows for sure....

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Edited: Yes, that is indeed JB's office door.

From the Orlando Sentinel website:
Orange County Sheriff detective Sgt. John Allen talks on his cell phone after meeting with Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's attorney and Cindy Anthony, grandmother of missing child Cayllee Anthony.
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Post by Justice4all Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:08 pm

It is hard to get a clear view, but it does look like duct tape holding up the posters in both pictures based on the color of the tape. Wouldn't it be creepy if that was the same duct tape used on Caylee?


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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:10 pm

Here is a close-up pic of the gas can with the duct tape on it.

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Here is a picture from further away. Note the two brackets laying on the floor next to the can. The discovery documents stated LE obtained two brackets from the Anthony home that had pieces of duct tape on them. If you look carefully, it does appear there is duct tape on one end of each bracket. Don't think we have heard anything about the results of any testing yet... assuming any was done (i.e. depending on whether or not it included the 'Henkel' branch logo on it...)

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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:25 pm

For your help on determining more about the duct tape, here are some other pics of that particular branch of Henkel tape.

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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:07 pm

This is kind of small, but here is a picture of the duct tape in three different scenarios.... the first one is the tape from the Caylee poster..... as you can see, it DOES, indeed, have the 'Henkel' logo on it..... This could explain what happened to the roll of tape they didn't find at the A's house. It's possible GA used it up taping up fliers. No reason to hang onto an empty roll......

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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:13 pm

This is a video that shows GA putting up the Caylee poster on the front door of their house.... it is at about :12 into the video.... IMO, you can clearly see it is duct tape he is using.....

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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:43 pm

Interesting, I just came across this article. Seems as though it is pretty obvious to everyone who ALL the pieces of that duct tape belonged to!!!

WFTV, WESH rebut defense team on evidence

posted by halboedeker on Oct 2, 2009 6:14:58 PM

Casey Anthony's defense team told viewers via national television today that nothing ties their client to evidence at the crime scene where her daughter's remains were found. Attorneys turned up on NBC's "Today," ABC's "Good Morning America" and CBS' "Early Show."

This afternoon, WESH-Channel 2 and WFTV-Channel 9 answered the defense's claims.

WFTV re-examined its video from months before and found a possible connection: The same brand of rare duct tape on Caylee's skull was being used by the Anthony family to post a Caylee poster.

"You can't buy that stuff from Home Depot. It's industrial grade duct tape, and they haven't sold it in years," anchor Bob Opsahl said.

Last month, WKMG-Channel 6's Tony Pipitone reported that the Henkel tape attached to the toddler is a special make and not the best seller that the defense claimed it to be.

"This specific, industrial, fire-resistant tape is a tiny fraction of all the tape sold by Henkel," Pipitone said.

The WFTV report was timely, impressive and attention-getting. Reporter Kathi Belich noted that the defense had tried to dismiss the duct-tape evidence. But she reported that the Henkel duct tape on a Caylee poster had the same distinctive markings -- a black oval logo, temperature specifications -- as tape found on the child's remains and on a gas can at the Anthony home.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Scheaffer asked: "What are the statistical chances that those three pieces of duct tape did not come from the same source roll, that roll belonging to the Anthonys?"

Sheaffer said those similarities will be obvious to a jury. This evening, Belich reported that the defense "would not respond to anything that hasn't been entered as evidence in the case."

WESH turned to Orlando attorney Richard Hornsby, who has offered legal analysis for the station.

"Hornsby said evidence from her car alone suggests Casey knows how Caylee died and what happened to her body," reporter Bob Kealing said.

Hornsby said: "Casey had the car. She never said it was stolen or anything like that. She abandoned it." And he added that Anthony's parents recognized "the smell of death" in the car.

In another report, Hornsby described Casey's "incriminating, bizarre" behavior that makes "it obvious she knows something about the post-death issue."


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-wftv-wesh-rebut-defense-team-on-evidence.html
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Post by Snaz Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:27 pm

This is a VERY interesting article at Blink on Crime. Since Part I deals with the duct tape (prints and fibers), I will post it here.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/02/cayleecasey-anthony-case-brad-baez-and-baden-cant-read/#more-2535

The one thing that obviously caught my attention (since I have stated all along that I believe prints to have been found on the duct tape) is that, according to Blink, there ARE prints on the tape.... I guess only the trial will tell us for sure.....

Happy reading!!!!
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Post by Snaz Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:05 pm

Here is the second part of the Blink on Crime article:

http://blinkoncrime.com/category/caylee-anthony-case/

Good article.
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Post by Snaz Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:06 pm

Another picture of the Henkel duct tape on a different poster. Go to picture #7.

http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/19724912/detail.html


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Post by FystyAngel Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:29 am

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Post by FystyAngel Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:42 pm

I think I can actually make out the heart shape in the tape. I put the red arrow to show where.

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Post by FystyAngel Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:15 pm

You know, I was just thinking that maybe there was more than one roll of tape. I mean, considering the tape is so rare and we know that the Anthony's had tape just like it, when they were putting up posters, it's possible that the Anthony's had more than one roll. It sucks that we'll never know for sure. I would think it was more likely that they would have more than one roll, than a completely different person had the exact same kind of tape that the Anthony's had.
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Post by randilynn Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:20 pm

wow.. manufactured in ohio, huh... is that the same ohio that the ants moved to fla from??

just making sure i wasnt making up a state, i am sure that is what the defense is going to say.. "there is no ohio, there never was, only one person claims to have seen it,"
sorry, i think the ship has sunk...
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Post by Piper Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:40 pm

I also see pinholes, does anyone else?
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Post by Piper Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:22 pm

The pictures also freaked me out at first, I thought the fibers were hair at first glance. I do see what appears to be the imprint of a heart.
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Post by Snaz Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:30 pm

There has been lots of discussion all over the internet today about the heart sticker.... many people have claimed to see it... however, they aren't all seeing it in the same place, so I just don't know if it can be seen or not.

There has even been discussion that you can see imprints of where the tape would have been over Caylee's mouth, nose, and even ears.....

Seeing that tape was beyond heartwrenching......
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Post by Piper Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:48 pm

The pictures of the tape relates the grisly reality....here's what was placed on this baby, very sobering. I was really taken aback by it. Stop and think, who placed it and where it was placed. On an innocent child, it's horrific to imagine. The cold reality is there. There's no way for the defense to explain away any of this.
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Post by Tracey6434 Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:19 am

randilynn wrote:wow.. manufactured in ohio, huh... is that the same ohio that the ants moved to fla from??

just making sure i wasnt making up a state, i am sure that is what the defense is going to say.. "there is no ohio, there never was, only one person claims to have seen it,"
sorry, i think the ship has sunk...

Randilynn,

You are exactly right. The Anthony's DID move from Ohio to FL. That is where GA was on the police force. I was wondering a few things about this. Does anyone remember when the A's moved from OH to FL? Was the tape sold more in OH, seeing that is where the HQ's of Henkel are located? Was this tape even sold IN FL? I'm just wondering if we have a breakdown of the tape and what states it was sold and how much. Because if this tape was sold more commonly in OH, yet not in FL, that is huge too. What are the chances of the A's coming from OH and the exact tape not having even been sold in FL? I haven't read that. But I'm wondering.

Also, Piper, I saw those pin pricks too and am wondering what they are. Anyone have ANY ideas? Theories? At first, I thought maybe it was just tiny tears due to the tape being rubbed and thrown around by animals, water, etc. But I don't think so. They are too perfect, uniform of pin pricks to be from that.


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Post by Tracey6434 Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:41 am

Snaz wrote:This is a video that shows GA putting up the Caylee poster on the front door of their house.... it is at about :12 into the video.... IMO, you can clearly see it is duct tape he is using.....

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Snaz,

an you tell me where this video is located? Copying and pasting these links don't work for me. It appears it's on youtube. I'll go and search there. I don't know why these kind of urls don't work for me. The ones that are long like this and I have to copy and paste and aren't regular blue link things. How about my computer savvy lingo there, huh? LOL!
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Post by JAG Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:45 am

Here Tracey

https://www.youtube.com/v/ZzxDnIcdbaA