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Post by Snaz Mon May 10, 2010 5:40 pm

Please use this thread to discuss tomorrow's hearing on the DP motions, which begins at 9:00 a.m. EST.

Thanks!


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Post by Snaz Tue May 11, 2010 8:37 am

Hearing link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live
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Post by Snaz Tue May 11, 2010 8:46 am

http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Casey_Anthony_Hearing2
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Post by Snaz Tue May 11, 2010 8:52 am

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html
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Post by Snaz Tue May 11, 2010 8:58 am

Fox 35 News has the hearing up already.... Andrea Lyon there....
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Post by Snaz Tue May 11, 2010 8:58 am

Fox 35 News has the hearing up already.... Andrea Lyon there....
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Post by Snaz Tue May 11, 2010 8:59 am

http://www.wftv.com/video/23472159/index.html
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:02 am

good morning
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 9:05 am

put your boots on kids... the CHIT is gonna be getting DEEP in here!!

im just excited that i get to watch one live again... always feel as though i am trying to catch up!!
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:05 am

What's the little screen Baez put up in front of KC? And he's typing on a keyboard?
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 9:09 am

where are the SUPER supportive parents/grandparents of the year????
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 9:16 am

why is this judge allowing this to continue WITHOUT the defense following proper discovery rules???


i thought this crap was going to end when JS left.
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:19 am

I had to switch from WFTV, kept cutting out.

This woman has never testified in court and they want her to be an expert witness?
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:22 am

Is he typing and KC reading??
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:28 am

This woman is an expert by reading a few newspaper articles???
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 9:31 am

well.. then we must all be SUPER EXPERTS, and we should be called at trial!!

this is redonkulous, i am so not sure why JP keeps overruling ashton... maybe he knows this is a formality and he is going to deny the defense motion no matter what this "non authorative" expert says!!
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:34 am

Socially deviant........LOL
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:43 am

What is this woman talking about?
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:45 am

Wow, I think she was about to cry.......
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 9:51 am

By Andrea's standards, I could be an expert witness! I read some articles too! What a waste! kh
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 9:52 am

wow.. they have mentioned caylee's death about 5 times, and not as much as a long blink from KC... still stone faced right through the convo,. they could be talking about drapery, she couldnt care less...


OH... Q the tears KC... hurry up, you missed SOOO many chances


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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 9:54 am

Now KC's gonna cry at the mention of a "happy, healthy Caylee"...
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 10:00 am

They are "passing notes".......
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 10:03 am

Duct tape, maybe that's why the state put the dp back on the table!
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 10:09 am

DENIED. kh
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 10:09 am

motion DENIED.. to preclude based on gender bias!!
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 10:11 am

DENIED!
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 10:12 am

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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 10:13 am

LOL kh!!!
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Post by Piper Tue May 11, 2010 10:15 am

Well, I have to miss the rest, back to work for me. She didn't bat an eye, did she?
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 10:31 am

How does Lying Lyon figure that the death penalty is unconstitutional?
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 10:32 am

getting ready for ANOTHER big DENIED, DENIED, DENIED!!!!!

is it just me, or does this judge look like he could be judge joe brown's brother??


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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 10:33 am

Come on Judge Perry! Make that ruling! Let's go! kh
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 10:35 am

DENIED!!
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 10:39 am

I'll educate the defense on the aggravating factors. Body found in trash bag dumped in woods with duct tape from the Anthony residence on the skull covering airways.
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 10:41 am

Of course the 14,000 pages of police reports are online for everyone to read Lyon. It's called the Sunshine Law.
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 10:44 am

Pretense of Ignorance. I love it.
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Post by LottieM Tue May 11, 2010 10:46 am

I'm taping the rest of the hearing for later. I can't possibly deal with Lyon (no 's' on Lyon as Baez so 'politely' pointed out to JP the other day) before adequate amounts of coffee!

I cannot believe she takes jabs at Florida! How uncouth!
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 10:47 am

Ms Lyon cannot figure out what the aggravating circumstances are? kh
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 10:52 am

Richard Hornsby figured out the aggravating factors that apply.

  • The victim was younger than 12
  • Anthony was the parent
  • The crime was premeditated
  • The crime involved aggravated child abuse

The other two of the six are also possible.

  • Anthony stood to benefit monetarily from Caylee’s death
  • The crime was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel.
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 10:53 am

Here it comes......... I feel another denied in my bones! kh
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 10:56 am

Okay...... so the State has to explain what the aggravating factors are to the defense. I could to that. kh
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Post by randilynn Tue May 11, 2010 10:58 am

hmmm... he granted their motion.. the state MUST give them a list of the aggrivators they intend to argue so they can defend against them...

now, she is arguing that the defense should not have to give the prosecution the same list on mitigators before trial.. that doesnt seem fair. if the state has to show their hand, the defense should have to do the same.
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 11:01 am

Do I have this right? They want everything from the State but don't want to give anything to them because it's "personal"? kh
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Post by khintx Tue May 11, 2010 11:05 am

Has anybody seen George? kh
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 11:06 am

I think you have it right kh, but fortunately the motion just got denied.
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Post by LottieM Tue May 11, 2010 11:07 am

Here's my thinking about this so far:

The defense must be thinking Casey will be found guilty or else they'd not be so concerned about the dp being on the table since even if she is found guilty the jury does not have to recommend the dp and if they did the dp could be overruled by the judge. Seems more like they'd just argue to have the charges of murder dropped in the first place, but they can't because they know better.

They know Caylee was last with Casey, and Caylee was disposed of with duct tape on her face in a garbage bag and left in the woods to rot and be eaten by scavengers. All that shows no remorse for Caylee having died even if it were an accident...but the defense has yet to even suggest an accident happened, so unless they are admitting Casey killed Caylee they are still going to suggest some mysterious nanny did it all!

Well, they can't pretend to suggest the nanny did it because if they were going to do that they should have - even to this day- private investigators out there looking for this nanny and Casey herself should be screaming from the rafters about LE needing to go find this nanny! However, it's apparent they are going to try to say Caylee was dumped (and therefore may have been killed) after Casey was arrested. But how is that going to fly since her car stank when it did?

The defense might could attempt to suggest the car stank because the nanny had borrowed the car/killed Caylee and dumped her prior to Casey being arrested. But no...that's not going to fly because said she talked to Caylee on July 15th!

The defense has no case unless they would try at some point to interject an accident confession. But would it be believed this late in the game? After Casey has been sitting there acting like NOTHING happened to Caylee that she is aware of? And if it were an accident, has Casey told Baez and company that yet? Will she now that the dp is not going to be removed from the table?

If the dp stays on the table Casey's only hope is to 'say' it was an accident that 'snowballed out of control'. But if that happens, will George be arrested for lying to LE about so much since he's also alleged to have said the same?

So much is still to come in this case. I'm very glad Judge Perry is in charge! He's doing a wonderful job being fair but cutting to the points.
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Post by Justice4all Tue May 11, 2010 11:16 am

Lottie, I agree that the defense thinks there is a high possibility that Casey will be found guilty. They probably want the death penalty off the table to take the pressure off of Casey. If the death penalty stays on the table, Casey has to seriously think about pleading guilty in exchange for LWOP. If the death penalty is off the table, then the defense can take it to trial and hope for an acquittal. If they don't get one, the worse possible outcome would be LWOP.
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