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I created a thread for these because I keep going back to reference them.
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Classmate: 'I Hope My Best Friend Comes Back'
Kyron Horman Last Seen Friday Morning
POSTED: 7:06 am PDT June 9, 2010
UPDATED: 8:24 am PDT June 9, 2010
PORTLAND, Ore. -- A statement from the parents of a missing 7-year-old boy is expected to come sometime Wednesday as investigators wrap up the final interviews of parents, students and staff at Skyline School.
Second-grader Kyron Horman disappeared from his rural northwest Portland school Friday.
Multnomah County Sheriff's Capt. Jason Gates said Kyron's stepmother brought him to school for a school science fair and last saw Kyron near his classroom at about 8:45 a.m.
Tanner Pumala, Kyron's classmate, said he last saw his friend at about the same time when Kyron told him he was headed to look at another student's science project.
"He walked by the hallway and I'm like, 'Hi, Kyron,' and he's like, 'Hi. I'm going to go see this cool one. It's electric.' I'm like, 'Alright, bye.' And that's the last time I saw him," Tanner said. "He never did make it back to class."
As the search for Kyron enters its sixth day, Tanner said his friend's disappearance is all he can think about.
"I'm feeling really sad. For the last five days, I haven't gotten much sleep," he said. "I'm hoping that my best friend will come back."
http://www.kptv.com/news/23842774/detail.html
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8-year-old Tanner Pumala, a desk mate of Kyron says, "I went downstairs, and that was the last time I saw him and I never seen him after that," Tanner told KOIN news. Tanner said, the class was regrouping and it was the substitute that noticed Kyron was missing.
"And she was like 'oh no where's Kyron there's only five' and Mrs. Porter was like it's okay calm down, calm down he's probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water and she said alright I'm going to leave and she left, " says Tanner Pumala
Tanner said that he noticed that Kyron was not on the school bus when they were going home.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/search-for-missing-kyron-horman-is-now-a-criminal-case
Kyron Horman Last Seen Friday Morning
POSTED: 7:06 am PDT June 9, 2010
UPDATED: 8:24 am PDT June 9, 2010
PORTLAND, Ore. -- A statement from the parents of a missing 7-year-old boy is expected to come sometime Wednesday as investigators wrap up the final interviews of parents, students and staff at Skyline School.
Second-grader Kyron Horman disappeared from his rural northwest Portland school Friday.
Multnomah County Sheriff's Capt. Jason Gates said Kyron's stepmother brought him to school for a school science fair and last saw Kyron near his classroom at about 8:45 a.m.
Tanner Pumala, Kyron's classmate, said he last saw his friend at about the same time when Kyron told him he was headed to look at another student's science project.
"He walked by the hallway and I'm like, 'Hi, Kyron,' and he's like, 'Hi. I'm going to go see this cool one. It's electric.' I'm like, 'Alright, bye.' And that's the last time I saw him," Tanner said. "He never did make it back to class."
As the search for Kyron enters its sixth day, Tanner said his friend's disappearance is all he can think about.
"I'm feeling really sad. For the last five days, I haven't gotten much sleep," he said. "I'm hoping that my best friend will come back."
http://www.kptv.com/news/23842774/detail.html
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8-year-old Tanner Pumala, a desk mate of Kyron says, "I went downstairs, and that was the last time I saw him and I never seen him after that," Tanner told KOIN news. Tanner said, the class was regrouping and it was the substitute that noticed Kyron was missing.
"And she was like 'oh no where's Kyron there's only five' and Mrs. Porter was like it's okay calm down, calm down he's probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water and she said alright I'm going to leave and she left, " says Tanner Pumala
Tanner said that he noticed that Kyron was not on the school bus when they were going home.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/search-for-missing-kyron-horman-is-now-a-criminal-case
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Tyler Kessinger:
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Investigators re-interviewing people who saw Kyron
Meanwhile, investigators are re-interviewing people who say they saw Kyron at Skyline School the day he disappeared.
One person who has been asked again about what he saw is Skyline seventh-grader Tyler Kessinger, whose science fair project was on antimatter. He said investigators came back to interview him last week at his home.
“I just saw him (Kyron) in the gym, and I saw the truck out in the parking lot,” he said Wednesday. Kessinger said Kyron was looking at other students’ science fair projects, seemed happy and was with friends.
Kessinger said he hopes it’s all cleared up soon because it’s a frightening situation for him.
“Just knowing someone took him and not coming out and confessing, and that he’s probably in some other random place,” he said.
He said when he saw Kyron in the gym he didn’t see Terri Horman with him. He and his family have turned over pictures they took at the science fair to investigators, but they’ve been asked not to disclose the timeframe in which he saw Kyron.
Additionally, Kessinger said that investigators didn’t ask him anything new.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98434609.html
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Investigators re-interviewing people who saw Kyron
Meanwhile, investigators are re-interviewing people who say they saw Kyron at Skyline School the day he disappeared.
One person who has been asked again about what he saw is Skyline seventh-grader Tyler Kessinger, whose science fair project was on antimatter. He said investigators came back to interview him last week at his home.
“I just saw him (Kyron) in the gym, and I saw the truck out in the parking lot,” he said Wednesday. Kessinger said Kyron was looking at other students’ science fair projects, seemed happy and was with friends.
Kessinger said he hopes it’s all cleared up soon because it’s a frightening situation for him.
“Just knowing someone took him and not coming out and confessing, and that he’s probably in some other random place,” he said.
He said when he saw Kyron in the gym he didn’t see Terri Horman with him. He and his family have turned over pictures they took at the science fair to investigators, but they’ve been asked not to disclose the timeframe in which he saw Kyron.
Additionally, Kessinger said that investigators didn’t ask him anything new.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98434609.html
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Tyler's exhibit was on antimatter. I didn't remember much detail from school, had to do a search.
The Reality of Antimatter
Antimatter sounds like the stuff of science fiction, and it is. But it's also very real. Antimatter is created and annihilated in stars every day. Here on Earth it's harnessed for medical brain scans.
"Antimatter is around us each day, although there isn't very much of it," says Gerald Share of the Naval Research Laboratory. "It is not something that can be found by itself in a jar on a table."
So Share went looking for evidence of some in the Sun, a veritable antimatter factory, leading to new results that provide limited fresh insight into these still-mysterious particles.
Simply put, antimatter is a fundamental particle of regular matter with its electrical charge reversed. The common proton has an antimatter counterpart called the antiproton. It has the same mass but an opposite charge. The electron's counterpart is called a positron.
Antimatter particles are created in ultra high-speed collisions.
One example is when a high-energy proton in a solar flare collides with carbon, Share explained in an e-mail interview. "It can form a type of nitrogen that has too many protons relative to its number of neutrons." This makes its nucleus unstable, and a positron is emitted to stabilize the situation.
But positrons don't last long. When they hit an electron, they annihilate and produce energy.
"So the cycle is complete, and for this reason there is so little antimatter around at a given time," Share said.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/antimatter_sun_030929.html
The Reality of Antimatter
Antimatter sounds like the stuff of science fiction, and it is. But it's also very real. Antimatter is created and annihilated in stars every day. Here on Earth it's harnessed for medical brain scans.
"Antimatter is around us each day, although there isn't very much of it," says Gerald Share of the Naval Research Laboratory. "It is not something that can be found by itself in a jar on a table."
So Share went looking for evidence of some in the Sun, a veritable antimatter factory, leading to new results that provide limited fresh insight into these still-mysterious particles.
Simply put, antimatter is a fundamental particle of regular matter with its electrical charge reversed. The common proton has an antimatter counterpart called the antiproton. It has the same mass but an opposite charge. The electron's counterpart is called a positron.
Antimatter particles are created in ultra high-speed collisions.
One example is when a high-energy proton in a solar flare collides with carbon, Share explained in an e-mail interview. "It can form a type of nitrogen that has too many protons relative to its number of neutrons." This makes its nucleus unstable, and a positron is emitted to stabilize the situation.
But positrons don't last long. When they hit an electron, they annihilate and produce energy.
"So the cycle is complete, and for this reason there is so little antimatter around at a given time," Share said.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/antimatter_sun_030929.html
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Could Tyler's exhibit have been the cool electric one?
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Doesn't this subject seem a little advanced for a second grader? Could this kid be the 7th grader others have mentioned?
I agree with you Piper, this probably is the 'cool electric one'.
I agree with you Piper, this probably is the 'cool electric one'.
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Yes, Tyler is a 7th grader.......
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Yes Tyler is the 7th grader. Tanner is a 3rd grader.
Here's why I want to know which class is Kyron's.
If his room is 201, then it's right across the hall from the gym, where Tyler saw him.
It would be possible that when Terri walked out the front door Kyron took a left into the gym rather than a right into his class.
And Tanner saw him outside the door, and he went down the stairs to see something else.
But if Kyron's class is actually 213, well then I gotta wonder when Tyler saw him.
Did Kyron turn around and go in the opposite direction after Terri left, or did he go into the gym WITH the volunteer escort?
If he was with the escort , then when was this interaction with Tanner???
I'm trying not to put too much into either of their statement, mostly because they are kids and we dont' have time info...but knowing which room is Kyron's I think helps make sense out of these.
And considering curtains in the gym, Tyler likely didn't see the truck and Kyron simultaneously. And there are also 2 egresses from the gym....would those be the back door that the kids came out to see the flower beds?
And why were they checking them that day anyway, were they part of the fair? If so how many kids checked out the flower beds?
Here's why I want to know which class is Kyron's.
If his room is 201, then it's right across the hall from the gym, where Tyler saw him.
It would be possible that when Terri walked out the front door Kyron took a left into the gym rather than a right into his class.
And Tanner saw him outside the door, and he went down the stairs to see something else.
But if Kyron's class is actually 213, well then I gotta wonder when Tyler saw him.
Did Kyron turn around and go in the opposite direction after Terri left, or did he go into the gym WITH the volunteer escort?
If he was with the escort , then when was this interaction with Tanner???
I'm trying not to put too much into either of their statement, mostly because they are kids and we dont' have time info...but knowing which room is Kyron's I think helps make sense out of these.
And considering curtains in the gym, Tyler likely didn't see the truck and Kyron simultaneously. And there are also 2 egresses from the gym....would those be the back door that the kids came out to see the flower beds?
And why were they checking them that day anyway, were they part of the fair? If so how many kids checked out the flower beds?
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He said when he saw Kyron in the gym he didn’t see Terri Horman with him. He and his family have turned over pictures they took at the science fair to investigators, but they’ve been asked not to disclose the timeframe in which he saw Kyron.
Snipped from above: So, Tyler last saw him in the gym and were asked not to disclose the time.....
Snipped from above: So, Tyler last saw him in the gym and were asked not to disclose the time.....
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KJ, from the pictures the garden bed faces the field. The gym exits face the parking lot........this is driving me crazy!
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Piper wrote:He said when he saw Kyron in the gym he didn’t see Terri Horman with him. He and his family have turned over pictures they took at the science fair to investigators, but they’ve been asked not to disclose the timeframe in which he saw Kyron.
Snipped from above: So, Tyler last saw him in the gym and were asked not to disclose the time.....
Yeah...I want to know why LE would be so concerned about him discussing time.
if he saw him before 8:45, it would be no biggy, Terri could have left earlier than she said OR she could have been in the bathroom...means nothing that he didn't see her.
If it was after 8:45 then that supports Terri...but why wouldn't they want the public to know?
I just don't understand why they would want this buttoned up.
Can anyone explain, seriously - no conspiresy theory please, why this information could be so critical to the investigation?
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Photographer's note:
Stairs to the auditorium
Not sure if this is a gym as well as an auditorium. It had curtains in the window that made me think of an auditorium. You can see stairs straight ahead that lead down into the school
Stairs to the auditorium
Not sure if this is a gym as well as an auditorium. It had curtains in the window that made me think of an auditorium. You can see stairs straight ahead that lead down into the school
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Piper wrote:KJ, from the pictures the garden bed faces the field. The gym exits face the parking lot........this is driving me crazy!
There are 2 exits from the gym...one is into the playground...could the grounds keeper had seen them come from there? What would he mean by the 'back door'?
Certainly not the machanic room door...that would have to be locked, ya???
So either of the side doors, or the gym, I'd think. Which makes the most sense if a kid wants to come check out flower beds on a chilly drizzly day...the one by 213????? Is that the 'back door'??????
UGH! Why can't we know these things?
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Piper wrote:Photographer's note:
Stairs to the auditorium
Not sure if this is a gym as well as an auditorium. It had curtains in the window that made me think of an auditorium. You can see stairs straight ahead that lead down into the school
The caf is in the basement...check the floor plan. If you look at the gym, there is a stage...it must double as the auditorium.
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As far as Tyler's timeframe, I don't know. If it confirms she was where she said she was, why hide it?
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Piper wrote:As far as Tyler's timeframe, I don't know. If it confirms she was where she said she was, why hide it?
I don't think it would confirm anything about Terri, because as I said, Tyler couldn't have verified the location of the truck at the same time he was looking at Kyron.
BUT...if he say Kyron at say 9:12...then we might have something, because that is when Terri had her receipt.
So I kinda doubt that...I bet it was closer to 8:45...but which side of it, I dont' know.
I think even if it was 8:50 it wouldn't do too much to help. I think it'd have to be 9 to have an impact.
I just keep thinking about Tanner "he never did make it BACK to class"
If their class is right by the gym it lines these two up.
And then I want to know who else saw him in the gym. Who were those friends he was with? Were they the tour group? Was it really 9:05?
UGH!
I just don't see how the time matters, UNLESS it's important that we all continue to think it's Terri.
If the time doesn't change that, then why not say?
If the time changes that, then why not say?...if it takes the heat off Terri, I gotta beleive they have their eye on someone else, where it's better for Kyron if this other person thinks LE is still looking in the wrong direction.
But that just seems to far fetched to me.
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THEY WITHHOLD THIS?
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LE changed their time to Kyron last being seen at 9am, but wouldn't say by whom or where...was Tyler the last person to see Kyron?
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Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 8:40 PM Updated: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:23 PM
Authorities had previously reported that Kyron's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, was the last to see the boy about 8:45 a.m. as he walked to his classroom. The two had attended a science fair, where the bespectacled boy with the gap-toothed grin posed for the photo now showing up on the missing fliers.
But investigators now say Kyron was last seen at 9 a.m. inside the school, but declined to say by whom or where.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_search_attracts_1.html
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Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 8:40 PM Updated: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:23 PM
Authorities had previously reported that Kyron's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, was the last to see the boy about 8:45 a.m. as he walked to his classroom. The two had attended a science fair, where the bespectacled boy with the gap-toothed grin posed for the photo now showing up on the missing fliers.
But investigators now say Kyron was last seen at 9 a.m. inside the school, but declined to say by whom or where.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_search_attracts_1.html
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Piper wrote:LE changed their time to Kyron last being seen at 9am, but wouldn't say by whom or where...was Tyler the last person to see Kyron?
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Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 8:40 PM Updated: Friday, June 18, 2010, 5:23 PM
Authorities had previously reported that Kyron's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, was the last to see the boy about 8:45 a.m. as he walked to his classroom. The two had attended a science fair, where the bespectacled boy with the gap-toothed grin posed for the photo now showing up on the missing fliers.
But investigators now say Kyron was last seen at 9 a.m. inside the school, but declined to say by whom or where.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_search_attracts_1.html
But then they changed it back to 8:45 by Terri.
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Right! So which is it?
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Piper wrote:As far as Tyler's timeframe, I don't know. If it confirms she was where she said she was, why hide it?
When information stays secret, investigators know which people should be aware of it and which people shouldn’t. If it’s leaked, they lose an edge in solving the crime.
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I agree sparky and unfortunaltely it also allows the POI to continue to be on the hook, even if there is something specific that is n Terris favor..
I also believe that Tylers account of seeing Kyron, corroborates Tanners story which LE dont want to consider as valid.. IMO this should change the timeline to what Tanner says.. whcih wud mean Terris confirmed trips to the stores in town wud give her an alibi and explain thagt she has been telling the truth .. I doubt LE will ever come out and publically apologize to her..
God Bless Kyron!
I also believe that Tylers account of seeing Kyron, corroborates Tanners story which LE dont want to consider as valid.. IMO this should change the timeline to what Tanner says.. whcih wud mean Terris confirmed trips to the stores in town wud give her an alibi and explain thagt she has been telling the truth .. I doubt LE will ever come out and publically apologize to her..
God Bless Kyron!
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I don't understand if you are a chaparone of five kids and only four are there do you not question where the 5th one is? Surely we all know Terri didnt tell the chaparaone he was going to the Dr ((((sarcasm)))) The chaparone must have had a list of kids to keep track of.
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Chatter2...
Not sure what you mean by your statement (I posted it below)..
" Surely we all know Terri didnt tell the chaparaone he was going to the Dr ((((sarcasm)))) The chaparone must have had a list of kids to keep track of."
On account that it appears Kyron was there with her in her care when the chaperones started out.. I keep wondering if a perp didnt take Kyron.. How cud Terri have come bak and taken Kyron without no one seeing her..? Whether it was in the school or the parking lot.. How wud she have had time to have done anythiong with him in the short time in the timeline...
LE has been tight lipped ab out what details they have so we have no solid timeline.. We can only guess as LE have been very select in believing ppls account...
They publically discounted Tanner's and have shown me thagt they only want info that will help convict Terri..
Thankfully Tanner and his family decided to come out and share with the public what they saw and told.. If they didnt, we wud have never known about Tanner's recall, which imo is corroborated by Kyle's account...
Still no Kyron and no searching!
Not sure what you mean by your statement (I posted it below)..
" Surely we all know Terri didnt tell the chaparaone he was going to the Dr ((((sarcasm)))) The chaparone must have had a list of kids to keep track of."
On account that it appears Kyron was there with her in her care when the chaperones started out.. I keep wondering if a perp didnt take Kyron.. How cud Terri have come bak and taken Kyron without no one seeing her..? Whether it was in the school or the parking lot.. How wud she have had time to have done anythiong with him in the short time in the timeline...
LE has been tight lipped ab out what details they have so we have no solid timeline.. We can only guess as LE have been very select in believing ppls account...
They publically discounted Tanner's and have shown me thagt they only want info that will help convict Terri..
Thankfully Tanner and his family decided to come out and share with the public what they saw and told.. If they didnt, we wud have never known about Tanner's recall, which imo is corroborated by Kyle's account...
Still no Kyron and no searching!
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I was being sarcastic with that sorry. What I am saying is a chaprone is given so many to be accountable for in a group. One disappears and there are no alarm bells? As a parent I chaparoned many a group of kids and kept tabs on all of them I would have been very alarmed if one was missing.
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Chatter you are exactly right... Having a bunch of 8 yr olds where one is missing shud have definitley raised alrms...
Not that one wud have automatically considered an abduction but the thoughts I wud think wud be in trouble or potential trouble somewhere in the school.. maybe trapped somehow by a locked door or hurt somewhere (bathroom ) after maybe hitting his head oor getting in trouble somewhere where there wud be dangerous things for little biys to play with....
I agree that the chaperone and teacher were all negligent and now in their own defense have taken the easy street and jumped on the band wagon to take any responsibility from themselves.. Not that I think they had anythiong to do with it... but it may have been someone known to a chaperone...(brother uncle father husbband) who knew the school was a free for all and that there wud be guests and kids on the loose... how sad.. and the ony explaination LE have offered is Terri which seems so stupid in my estimation.. This seems like somenoe tricked yron and took him.,.. Terri had no oppurtunity and if she was going to do something this wud have meant that it wud have been premeditataed and i cant see how she wud have been so stupid to chopose a day whhere there wud be all kinds oof ppl aropund and a sick baby and a pretty tight timeline... I have heard it suggested that she has put him somewhere???????????????????????? Please, isnt that the most stupid thing a person wud ever do?? Where wud she take him> Why? who waud take care of him?????? So sad and LE dont want to look for this boy and ythe community seems comlacemtn with this ack of work... Why ..Where is Kyron
Not that one wud have automatically considered an abduction but the thoughts I wud think wud be in trouble or potential trouble somewhere in the school.. maybe trapped somehow by a locked door or hurt somewhere (bathroom ) after maybe hitting his head oor getting in trouble somewhere where there wud be dangerous things for little biys to play with....
I agree that the chaperone and teacher were all negligent and now in their own defense have taken the easy street and jumped on the band wagon to take any responsibility from themselves.. Not that I think they had anythiong to do with it... but it may have been someone known to a chaperone...(brother uncle father husbband) who knew the school was a free for all and that there wud be guests and kids on the loose... how sad.. and the ony explaination LE have offered is Terri which seems so stupid in my estimation.. This seems like somenoe tricked yron and took him.,.. Terri had no oppurtunity and if she was going to do something this wud have meant that it wud have been premeditataed and i cant see how she wud have been so stupid to chopose a day whhere there wud be all kinds oof ppl aropund and a sick baby and a pretty tight timeline... I have heard it suggested that she has put him somewhere???????????????????????? Please, isnt that the most stupid thing a person wud ever do?? Where wud she take him> Why? who waud take care of him?????? So sad and LE dont want to look for this boy and ythe community seems comlacemtn with this ack of work... Why ..Where is Kyron
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"Can anyone explain, seriously - no conspiresy theory please, why this information could be so critical to the investigation?"
They are keeping certain things from the public that only the perv would have knowledge of, mainly because in cases like this there are people out there wanting to be connected to the victims or even the crime and they'll make a false confession. If that person can't give the correct time,then LE can disqualify that person. And the other reason is that they want people to come forward with what they actually remember rather than hearing a time or a person's name and then affix what they saw to what someone else has said ( not out of wrong doing),it's just the way peoples minds work I guess.
They are keeping certain things from the public that only the perv would have knowledge of, mainly because in cases like this there are people out there wanting to be connected to the victims or even the crime and they'll make a false confession. If that person can't give the correct time,then LE can disqualify that person. And the other reason is that they want people to come forward with what they actually remember rather than hearing a time or a person's name and then affix what they saw to what someone else has said ( not out of wrong doing),it's just the way peoples minds work I guess.
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Hi Sparky and Chatter! Have any of you heard "talk' of a student seeing Terri hiding/waiting downstairs? And then also a parent verifying this? I hate to post hearsay but I've read it and can't find anything to verify it.
I totally agree with the chaperone issue, you have heads to count when you are in that position and if one is missing....you find out where they are, right away.
I totally agree with the chaperone issue, you have heads to count when you are in that position and if one is missing....you find out where they are, right away.
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Re: Tanner Pumala and Tyler Kessinger
Piper,
I havent heard that one yet, but I wudnt be surprised if the rumour is out there.. guess it's predictable...
I think some ppl want to be involved so bad, that they will say or do anything (to become the hero).... or they feel theyir suspicions are right so they help things along to help seal the deal...
I believe that if this rumoured allegation is in fact true, Terri wud have prolly been arrested immediatley for probable cause...
I havent heard that one yet, but I wudnt be surprised if the rumour is out there.. guess it's predictable...
I think some ppl want to be involved so bad, that they will say or do anything (to become the hero).... or they feel theyir suspicions are right so they help things along to help seal the deal...
I believe that if this rumoured allegation is in fact true, Terri wud have prolly been arrested immediatley for probable cause...
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Re: Tanner Pumala and Tyler Kessinger
Horman's desk mate says substitute noticed him missing
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Hormans-desk-mate-says-substitute-noticed-him/TVY3YTREG0SyCP3tb3MkZg.cspx
Reported by: Kohr Harlan
Last Update: 7:23 am
Eight-year-old Tanner Pumala says the first person to notice Kyron Horman was missing was a substitute teacher who was taking a head count as the second and third grade class was re-assembling after visiting other classrooms for a science fair at Skyline School last Friday.
"And she was like 'oh no where's Kyron there's only five' and Mrs. Porter was like it's okay calm down, calm down he's probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water and she said alright I'm going to leave and she left, " says Tanner Pumala.
Notes: The substitute teacher knew Kyron had been with the group and Mrs. Porter knew Kyron had not left the school with Terri. (she's got a kid missing and she left? This person would be one of the parents who was leading a group of children). Later reports said there were no substitutes that day, so therefore, Tanner saying he saw Kyron is wrong, but to a child this person would be considered a substitute teacher.
Tanner is Kyron's deskmate in their combined second-third grade classroom. Tanner says Kyron was in school for at least an hour Friday morning and that he saw Kyron's step-mother LEAVE the school WITHOUT Kyron.
Note: Tanner says Kyron was at school for at least -- an Hour -- Friday, and he saw Terri Leave WITHOUT Kyron. So Kyron is still at school until at least 9:15 am, going by the time Zimmerman says she saw them, or did Tanner mean an hour after Terri left, which would be 9:45 am. and Terri has a receipt showing she is at FM at 9:12 am, so even if Terri didn't leave the school until 9:00 am, as some are saying now, Kyron was still seen at school, going by the earliest time, after Terri left. Someone else saw Kyron after Zimmerman did, but didn't give a time. If Kyron was at school for an hour after Terri left - until 9:45 am - then that explains why Mrs. Porter waited until 10:00 am to mark him absent.
F-B-I agents interviewed Pumala, and Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton visited with Pumala Wednesday afternoon according to Pumala's grandmother Wendy Fuhrur.
Upon hearing the substitute teacher noticing that Kyron was not present in the classroom, Pumala says the regular teacher said Kyron had probably gone to get a drink of water or to use the bathroom. It wasn't until the bus ride home from school, says Pumala that he noticed Kyron was not on the bus. Kyron's step-mother notified school authorities of her son's not being on the bus at around 3:45pm Friday afternoon.
Note: Tanner did not know Kyron had a doctor's appointment and was with Terri, because he looked for him on the bus, even though I had read somewhere that one of the kids had asked at Lunch where was Kyron and Mrs. Porter told them he left with his mom because he had a doctors appointment.
Pumala's grandmother says F-B-I agents and Multnomah County investigators have asked Pumala and his grandmother not to speak with the media, for reasons they did not divulge. Fuhrur says she decided to allow her grandson talk, in part to keep the missing boy in the public eye.
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Zimmerman said she arrived at the school around 8:15 a.m. Friday, as most parents and students did, to attend the end-of-year science fair. Terri Korman took a photograph of Kyron in front of his project, Zimmerman said.
Kyron’s project was on the red-eye tree frog, Madi said.
“We always play on the swings together,” she said of her friend. I’m thinking my thoughts for him. I’m very worried.”
Zimmerman said everyone went into their classroom for the science fair and broke into parent-led groups of four or five. She wasn’t sure what group Kyron was in. but she said the last time she saw him was at 8:15, when the groups began going from class to class.
“Then you were supposed to stay with your group. I don’t know what group he was in.”
Zimmerman said the boy has no learning disabilities. “He’s a good kid who follows the rules,” she said.
“We’re really close to the family, “ she added, noting that Kyron has a 16-year-old brother and a younger sister. “We’ve been on the phone with them all night.”
Anyone with information regarding Kyron's whereabouts is asked to call a tip line at 503-261-2847.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
Notes: Kyron was last seen abuot 9 am Friday after attending a science fair at Skyline Elementary School, according to Matt Shelby, spokesman for Portland Public Schools. (Terri left at 8:45 am)
Zimmerman said she arrived at the school around 8:15 am FRIDAY, as most parents and students did, to attend the end of year science fair. Terri Horman took a photograph in front of his project Zimmerman said.
Zimmerman said Everyone went to their classroom for the science fair and broke into parent-led groups of four or five. She said she wasn't sure what group Kyron was in, but she said the last time she saw him was at 8:15 am when the groups began going from class to class. (so classes began at 8 am not 10 am as Mrs Porter had said).
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Hormans-desk-mate-says-substitute-noticed-him/TVY3YTREG0SyCP3tb3MkZg.cspx
Reported by: Kohr Harlan
Last Update: 7:23 am
Eight-year-old Tanner Pumala says the first person to notice Kyron Horman was missing was a substitute teacher who was taking a head count as the second and third grade class was re-assembling after visiting other classrooms for a science fair at Skyline School last Friday.
"And she was like 'oh no where's Kyron there's only five' and Mrs. Porter was like it's okay calm down, calm down he's probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water and she said alright I'm going to leave and she left, " says Tanner Pumala.
Notes: The substitute teacher knew Kyron had been with the group and Mrs. Porter knew Kyron had not left the school with Terri. (she's got a kid missing and she left? This person would be one of the parents who was leading a group of children). Later reports said there were no substitutes that day, so therefore, Tanner saying he saw Kyron is wrong, but to a child this person would be considered a substitute teacher.
Tanner is Kyron's deskmate in their combined second-third grade classroom. Tanner says Kyron was in school for at least an hour Friday morning and that he saw Kyron's step-mother LEAVE the school WITHOUT Kyron.
Note: Tanner says Kyron was at school for at least -- an Hour -- Friday, and he saw Terri Leave WITHOUT Kyron. So Kyron is still at school until at least 9:15 am, going by the time Zimmerman says she saw them, or did Tanner mean an hour after Terri left, which would be 9:45 am. and Terri has a receipt showing she is at FM at 9:12 am, so even if Terri didn't leave the school until 9:00 am, as some are saying now, Kyron was still seen at school, going by the earliest time, after Terri left. Someone else saw Kyron after Zimmerman did, but didn't give a time. If Kyron was at school for an hour after Terri left - until 9:45 am - then that explains why Mrs. Porter waited until 10:00 am to mark him absent.
F-B-I agents interviewed Pumala, and Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton visited with Pumala Wednesday afternoon according to Pumala's grandmother Wendy Fuhrur.
Upon hearing the substitute teacher noticing that Kyron was not present in the classroom, Pumala says the regular teacher said Kyron had probably gone to get a drink of water or to use the bathroom. It wasn't until the bus ride home from school, says Pumala that he noticed Kyron was not on the bus. Kyron's step-mother notified school authorities of her son's not being on the bus at around 3:45pm Friday afternoon.
Note: Tanner did not know Kyron had a doctor's appointment and was with Terri, because he looked for him on the bus, even though I had read somewhere that one of the kids had asked at Lunch where was Kyron and Mrs. Porter told them he left with his mom because he had a doctors appointment.
Pumala's grandmother says F-B-I agents and Multnomah County investigators have asked Pumala and his grandmother not to speak with the media, for reasons they did not divulge. Fuhrur says she decided to allow her grandson talk, in part to keep the missing boy in the public eye.
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Zimmerman said she arrived at the school around 8:15 a.m. Friday, as most parents and students did, to attend the end-of-year science fair. Terri Korman took a photograph of Kyron in front of his project, Zimmerman said.
Kyron’s project was on the red-eye tree frog, Madi said.
“We always play on the swings together,” she said of her friend. I’m thinking my thoughts for him. I’m very worried.”
Zimmerman said everyone went into their classroom for the science fair and broke into parent-led groups of four or five. She wasn’t sure what group Kyron was in. but she said the last time she saw him was at 8:15, when the groups began going from class to class.
“Then you were supposed to stay with your group. I don’t know what group he was in.”
Zimmerman said the boy has no learning disabilities. “He’s a good kid who follows the rules,” she said.
“We’re really close to the family, “ she added, noting that Kyron has a 16-year-old brother and a younger sister. “We’ve been on the phone with them all night.”
Anyone with information regarding Kyron's whereabouts is asked to call a tip line at 503-261-2847.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
Notes: Kyron was last seen abuot 9 am Friday after attending a science fair at Skyline Elementary School, according to Matt Shelby, spokesman for Portland Public Schools. (Terri left at 8:45 am)
Zimmerman said she arrived at the school around 8:15 am FRIDAY, as most parents and students did, to attend the end of year science fair. Terri Horman took a photograph in front of his project Zimmerman said.
Zimmerman said Everyone went to their classroom for the science fair and broke into parent-led groups of four or five. She said she wasn't sure what group Kyron was in, but she said the last time she saw him was at 8:15 am when the groups began going from class to class. (so classes began at 8 am not 10 am as Mrs Porter had said).
Last edited by johnabelle on Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:32 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : To add Zimmerman's comments from another news article)
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Re: Tanner Pumala and Tyler Kessinger
Piper wrote:Hi Sparky and Chatter! Have any of you heard "talk' of a student seeing Terri hiding/waiting downstairs? And then also a parent verifying this? I hate to post hearsay but I've read it and can't find anything to verify it.
I totally agree with the chaperone issue, you have heads to count when you are in that position and if one is missing....you find out where they are, right away.
Piper, I do remember reading something about that. If I remember correctly the person said she was hiding "under" the stairs.But I never saw another thing about it any where so I figured it was just someone wanting to appear to be "in the know"!
The only truth I have discovered in the past 4 months is,I don't know what to believe!
The news comments section, blogs on FaceBook etc people are playing horrible games,back biting,vigilantes,liars and fake ID's. And for what or why? I don't understand that much energy going into making themselves look like an idiot. If they were to apply all that energy into searching for Kyron,they might feel better at the end of the day.
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It came from a comment of one of the newspapers. In where you can write comments after an article. It isnt a crediable source just someone spouting off.
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You're right, chatter2. That's where I read it and others were agreeing. Just another rumor!
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It's nukinfutts! I guess LE thinks the person who saw Kryon at 9AM are part of Terri's posse and lied to protect her.
LE/Kaine/Dez motto...."If the shoe doesn't fit Terri, it's not reliable information".
LE/Kaine/Dez motto...."If the shoe doesn't fit Terri, it's not reliable information".
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