Defense Strategies

I know this has been discussed by a lot of us. However, we haven't discussed it here. I was going over some of the older documents, discussions and people involved early on. Terence Lenamon really had some interesting things to say. If you recall he was not asked back to the defense team after the state put the DP back on the table. He said it was because they had a difference in defense strategy. He said on Nancy Grace that he felt she should be using, Not Guilty by reason of insanity. So, to me, that means, he believes she did this to Caylee. What did he see, that led him to that conclusion? Was it just what we all know? Or is there more? I'm guessing there is more. But here's my question then. If there is more that led him to believe this (and keep in mind he is very experienced, not just another Baez), how is it Baez can think she's innocent? does Baez truly believe she's innocent? He has me convinced that he thinks she's innocent. Is he really that blind though?
So, what do you all think they will really use as a defense? Seriously, if KC is sticking to the nanny story, what will the defense be and how in the hail are they going to make the evidence we have all seen, fit that theory? I just don't see it.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19453077/detail.html


LEGAL ANALYST REVIEWS ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS

The public got an inside look at the defense strategies Casey Anthony's team of lawyers considered from an attorney no longer in her camp. On national TV death penalty lawyer Terence Lenamon said he would've defended Casey by blaming mental health problems.

RAW VIDEO: Attorney On Nancy Grace

However, according to WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer, to use a mental health defense you have to admit you did something because of mental health issues. Continued at link above.

I have heard KC worked for an escort service called Universal Escorts. And I'll tell you, I think this is more than a theory. Sean Krause had an article about this on his site a long time ago before he passed away. Mark Nejamne (sp?) asked him to take it down. And out of respect for him, he did. However, Sean was really on to something there. I wish I would have copied that article before it was removed. So, yes, Sunni, I believe there is some truth in this.

AJ,

That's what I'm thinking. GHe more than likely said right from the start, if you tell me you did something, I cannot defend you any other way. My divorce attorney had told me that right up front. He said, if you tell me something, I cannot go any other way with that information. I can not question you about it if we go to trial and then if you lie I will have to recuse myself. So, it's possible he does know or at least suspects. i just can't imagine anyone believes her.
However, I don't think Baez passed his bar exams on the first few tries. So, he may not be all that intelligent. LOL

awaiting justice wrote:lol, Tracey
I ended up watching CA's depo again as well as rereading her fbi interview...
It seems that the defense is going to say that LE never looked for the right ZFG. ANd they will imply that the ZFG was really an alias and had tricked KC.. They will say that all the ppl that knew ZFG jules jeff tom the roomates Jennifer and ?? were all fake names.. so when LE were trying to find these ppl, and establish if there is such ppl, they cudnt find these ppl as their real names were concealed from KC..as they had a plan for her... Its just so crazy, and to see how the Ants have and still help facilitate this lie is sickening

I agree that is the defense they will use. However that defense is going to fall through, reason being is because they can not even produce phone numbers nor a residence much less no one has ever seen the supposed ZFG. Another hole in the story is she cant even get straight where it was she dropped Caylee off at. So even if they do go for the wrong ZFG they have thier asses to cover cause the story is not going to fly.

I don't think any story KC comes up with is going to fly. I really don't. I mean, no matter how hard I've tried, I can't come up with anything based on what she said or did that seems to make any sense. And believe me I have been up many a night thinking about something, anything, that would convince me she didn't do this. I haven't been able to come up with a single thing.

I have to disagree.... I just don't think KC is smart at all. And I also don't believe for ONE SECOND that she is reading law books.... that stuff would go so far over her head, it would mean nothing. That is something the defense WANTS us to believe..... KC is way too self-centered to spend her time reading law books.... I believe she is spending her time READING.... but I don't believe it's LAW BOOKS.

KC had 31 days to come up with a story to cover her tracks... and the best she could do was 'the nanny did it'????? That doesn't show very much smarts to me. If she was smart, she would have at least made an attempt to appear as though she was actually looking for her daughter... she wasn't going to be able to keep the fact that Caylee wasn't around hidden forever. But instead, she went out partying, pole dancing with other girls, and sleeping with any guy who would have her...

Smart? I just don't see it....

JMO

awaiting justice wrote:Snaz, the staff at OCSC were the ones that corroborated what she was reading.....

Awaiting..... this is only my opinion, but just because she has a law book in front of her does not mean she is reading it, and it certainly doesn't mean she UNDERSTANDS what she is reading. I will probably never (because I try never to say never!!!! LOL) believe she is actually participating in her defense other than to tell her attorneys whatever lies they need to hear.

Law books are pretty hard for the average layman to comprehend and you can't get much more average than KC.

Again, MOO.

mimi4all wrote:Sunni, I don't know how to do quotes here yet. So how about teaching me how?

Mimi, I'm not Sunni, but I can teach you...

All you do is go to the post you want to quote and click the 'quote' button in the top right corner of the post. That will bring you to a new post reply box to type your post... and the quote will be inside the box... go below the quote inside the box and type away.... LOL

Hope that makes sense.

The nanny did it is likely to be a strategy that will fail. They might switch up and try to point the finger at Jesse Grund, Roy Kronk, or anybody else they can think of.

I think one of the defense's main strategies is going to be trying to convince the jury that Caylee's body wasn't where it was found the whole time. They will probably try to say that the real killer put Caylee's body there later and that's why her body wasn't found in earlier searches of the area.

I don't think any of these strategies will work and chances are slim that KC will walk. She may escape the death penalty if somebody on the jury is morally opposed to it.

The defense's best strategy would probably be for KC to say that Caylee was accidentally killed somehow, and that she panicked and that's why she told all the lies to cover up the fact that Caylee was dead.

Personally I hope that the defense uses one of the weaker strategies that a jury will see right through and KC gets what's coming to her.

Justice4all wrote:The nanny did it is likely to be a strategy that will fail. They might switch up and try to point the finger at Jesse Grund, Roy Kronk, or anybody else they can think of.

I think one of the defense's main strategies is going to be trying to convince the jury that Caylee's body wasn't where it was found the whole time. They will probably try to say that the real killer put Caylee's body there later and that's why her body wasn't found in earlier searches of the area.

I don't think any of these strategies will work and chances are slim that KC will walk. She may escape the death penalty if somebody on the jury is morally opposed to it.

The defense's best strategy would probably be for KC to say that Caylee was accidentally killed somehow, and that she panicked and that's why she told all the lies to cover up the fact that Caylee was dead.

Personally I hope that the defense uses one of the weaker strategies that a jury will see right through and KC gets what's coming to her.

Excellent post, J4A! I truly hope that Casey gets the Death Penalty. Society would be much better off without people like her.

Sunni wrote:Ditto J4A & Booklover !!!!

Something I've been wondering about here........

Just theorhetically ( sp lol )........ Since DC isn't talking and he was in those woods where Caylees body was found, with an established credible witness........ who's to say people won't question if he actually was working for someone ( lol who we all know hired (? ) him ) in hiding Caylees body or moving it to that particular place ?

Just a little food for thought.

Hi, Sunni! That's a good point, and an interesting one too.

I also think the defense will try to use the 'some other dude did it' theory (Jesse Grund, maybe even Roy Kronk or Ricardo Morales)... and they will also try to convince the jury Caylee's body was not in those woods while KC was out of jail, so she could not have been the one to put her there....... But I just can't help but believe that whatever defense they use, they will somehow try to put at least SOME of the blame on Cindy and possibly George, too.

I'm not convinced they won't still go with the accident theory if they realize their others theories won't fly.... or are too easily contradicted. Bozo, and now Andrea Lyon, has always said KC is "innocent".... well, they could still say she is "innocent" of murder, but that this was an accident, and KC panicked.... that's when I think they will begin the process of blaming CA & GA.... I also think it is Bozo who has kept the A's away from KC. I think he wants a bit of distance between them should the defense decide to throw the A's under the bus..... JMO

Whatever ridiculous theory the defense will try to sell the jury, it will be an interesting trial. And I, personally, don't see KC walking away from this one.

Snaz wrote:I also think the defense will try to use the 'some other dude did it' theory (Jesse Grund, maybe even Roy Kronk or Ricardo Morales)... and they will also try to convince the jury Caylee's body was not in those woods while KC was out of jail, so she could not have been the one to put her there....... But I just can't help but believe that whatever defense they use, they will somehow try to put at least SOME of the blame on Cindy and possibly George, too.

I'm not convinced they won't still go with the accident theory if they realize their others theories won't fly.... or are too easily contradicted. Bozo, and now Andrea Lyon, has always said KC is "innocent".... well, they could still say she is "innocent" of murder, but that this was an accident, and KC panicked.... that's when I think they will begin the process of blaming CA & GA.... I also think it is Bozo who has kept the A's away from KC. I think he wants a bit of distance between them should the defense decide to throw the A's under the bus..... JMO

Whatever ridiculous theory the defense will try to sell the jury, it will be an interesting trial. And I, personally, don't see KC walking away from this one.

Excellent post, Snaz! I don't have a problem with George & Cindy being blamed. After all, they certainly did NOTHING to protect Caylee from their monster daughter. However, for the Defense to claim that Casey is "innocent" is just plain ridiculous. Baez is just one of many reasons most people don't like Criminal Defense Attorneys. It makes you want to have Nancy Grace as a Prosecutor on this case, doesn't it? I've no doubt whatsoever that she would go after Casey with a vengeance.

I would like to bump this back up to the front......

During the hearing held on 8/21, the defense gave us a glimpse of what their defense will be. Macaluso made the statement to the effect that they had proof that Caylee was placed in the woods where she was found after KC had already been arrested; therefore KC had to be innocent.

First of all, I don't believe they have any such proof because I truly believe KC killed Caylee and put her out in those woods way back in the middle of June last year. But what tells me for sure that they don't have the proof Macaluso says they do is because if they could prove NOW that KC didn't kill Caylee, why wouldn't they just provide it to the authorities rather than to let KC sit in jail awaiting a DP trial???

Just a thought.....

There has been much speculation about how JB and crew will defend KC at trial. I came across this article and thought it interesting. I guess JB thinks he is the only criminal defense attorney who has won a 'not guilty of attempted murder' verdict for a client.... he says if the State wants to send one of HIS clients to prison, they are going to have to work harder than ever before... HUH?

Baez Talks Defense Strategy With News 13

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:59:18 AM
Reported By Adam Longo

KISSIMMEE -- We're getting a better idea of the strategies Casey Anthony's lawyers will use when her murder case heads to court.

News 13's Adam Longo spoke exclusively with Jose Baez about their defense as one of the biggest murder trials in Orange County history gets closer.

An Osceola County man, who was accused of murder, walked out of court a free man last Monday. His lawyer was Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's lawyer. News 13 talked to Baez to try to learn what tactics he employed in the courtroom in this case that he might also use in the case of a mother accused of killing her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

"The only thing I remember when I wake up, I was in the hospital, and the next thing I know, the next day I was in jail," said Rafael Contreras, who was acquitted of attempted murder.

Contreras has two young daughters. He used to be a truck driver. In February 2008 he was thrown in jail for attempted first degree murder. He spent 20 months in jail and got out on Monday.

"I feel like .. it's really unbelievable," Contreras said.

"I saw a lot of problems with the state's case," Baez said.

Contreras' family hired Baez last summer after firing their first attorney. Contreras proclaimed his innocence and rejected a plea deal from the state.

"They asked him, 'The offer is 20 years in prison, do you want to take it?' His answer was no. ... He's facing life," Baez said.

In court, the state argued Contreras had been thrown out of a Kissimmee bar, returned with a gun and shot the owner. the prosecution had eight eyewitnesses, but Baez and his team broke down the state's case piece by piece.

He showed the jury a side-by-side photo of Contreras (see slideshow in this story), who had been severely beaten, and his alleged target, who did not appear in the photo to be as badly injured. The defense asked, "Who's really the victim?"

The defense told the jury Contreras was beaten severely by other men inside the bar, and that the man who was shot set the whole thing up after learning Contreras was having an affair with his wife.

The defense highlighted an expert who said the alleged target's wound was consistent with being self-inflicted. Forensic scientists pointed to blood spatter evidence as proof the man was lying.

"You always put your heart and soul into a case and I don't think the arguments would be as persuasive if you didn't," Baez told Longo.

The defense had thousands of pictures, charts, graphs, a picture of a muzzle burn on the alleged victim's face that they said was self-inflicted.

During his 20 months in jail, Contreras said it was Baez who kept his spirits up.

"Well, I was down and he was always giving me hope, like, 'Don't worry, trust me, everything's going to come out OK," Contreras said.

"These people put their lives in your hand and they trust in you and that's not something you should take lightly," Baez said.

What's next for Contreras?

"Trying to get my job back, start from zero," Contreras said.

Contreras now has his life back. He said his faith kept him strong.

"I put my hope in the Lord and him [Baez] that he's going to do the right job, and he did. We came out with the victory," Contreras said.

As a prelude to the approaching trial of Casey Anthony, Baez told News 13 that with her, and with all of his clients, if the state wants to convict his clients, they will have to work harder than they ever have before.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/11/18/baez_talks_with_news_13_about_his_defense_strategy.html

shhhhhh AJ!!!!!! Cindy may be a reader here!!!!!!! On the other hand, this scenario played out would make them look even more psychopathetic than they already do! I like how you take all their lies and spin them a story...I don't think they are smart enough to come up with all of that, much less make it make sense to ANYONE with a brain. But I enjoyed the entertainment!!!

Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a resonable doubt case?

November 17, 8:26 PM
Spokane Homicide Examiner
Doyle Wheeler



Is Casey Anthony's family trying to build a reasonable doubt case?
Is her first attorney at the heart of what amounts to a conspiracy to obstruct justice by carefully constructing, while at the same time giving instructions to family members on how to build a reasonable doubt defense?

If you look at her conduct in the month prior the family reporting that Caylee was missing, it’s hard to understand or swallow Casey’s claim that some phantom babysitter kidnapped Caylee.

First you start with her deplorable conduct, then comes the whole impossible to swallow or believe kidnapping. Next she starts lying to the police about working? Along comes the decomposition, followed by her unexplainable Internet searches. Now before long a case that is in part circumstantial evidence starts firming up for the 1st degree murder of "the little brat," as Casey described Caylee in her own words.

But this is not a strictly circumstantial case by any means. The defense wants to wish away the physical evidence by trying to pooh-pooh it as being inconclusive, it doesn’t work like that counselor.

But, counselor you will get a chance to attack it in court, like the law allows.

When a defense attorney starts throwing up smoke screens with frivolous motions attacking the case in the media before the trial begins it is the attorney’s attempt to plant the idea in the jury pools minds that poor Casey is being railroaded.

It’s a text book defense strategy 101, but it can backfire and burn the client. The judge will only put up with so many baseless motions then you’ll get a judge that is predisposed to send the defense attorney back to their chairs very unhappy throughout the trial.

Read the rest:

http://www.examiner.com/x-14615-Spokane-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m11d17-Is-Casey-Anthonys-family-trying-to-build-a-resonable-doubt-case

thanks for the article snaggles... i have thought for a long time that the ant family is not as stupid as they seem... everything has its purpose.. and i believed that purpose was future jury confusion, and setting up an alternative case.. look at the depo's .. GA and CA were both guilty of adding unnecessary info.. things they WERE NOT Asked, but needed to get out there.. on the record.. to set up a SOD defense... IMHO

I don't think this canker on the butt of humanity has a snow ball's chance in hell of walking, but it's fun to see the defense try....and I'm glad Jose is getting other clients off....that way Casey thinks he's gonna get her off and then BAM!!!! GUILTY, FIRST DEGREE MURDER with special circumstances

Case Against Casey: Battle Of The Experts

Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:29:20 AM
Reported by Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- News 13 is digging deeper into one of the main arguments that's expected to play out in the case against Casey Anthony.

"The body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up at the Orange County Correctional Facility and that proves her innocence," said defense attorney Todd Macaluso on Aug. 21.

Anthony’s defense team is lining up witnesses to back up that statement.

They're talking to everyone who may have been in the woods where Caylee's remains were eventually found.

They have video of people searching that area they're likely to use in court.

But the state has evidence it feels proves Caylee's remains were in the woods before Casey went to jail.

They have former meter reader Roy Kronk, who said he saw something suspicious in August.

There's also a botanist report which indicates Caylee's remains were in the same place for at least four months.

Casey Anthony will be back in court for a hearing this Friday.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/12/8/case_against_casey_battle_of_the_experts.html

I think the botanist report proves that little Caylee was in those woods for several months. I am not worried about the defense claims. I just hope that the people who plan on lying for them have second thoughts. Karma is a b!tch!!!!!!

I think often about bozo and cohorts.. i think of their strategy, their ability, their continuous motions that seem to flow like rain in florida. I ponder over almost every move made by the defense in this case, and often i have much to say about their perceived inadequacies. i think it only fair that i take the time to think of what i would do, if i were the defense that is... so.. here it goes.

Facing the mountain of (circumstantial) evidence that exists in this case, i believe that the ONLY thing to do is to plead not guilty to 1st degree murder. IF one were to enter a guilty plea, the BEST that one could hope for would be 25 years in the penitentiary. this, to most of us, would translate into a life sentence. NO, we may not die of old age in prison, but there would be a significant amount of life that would be lost while serving the time.. what would be left at 50, 60 years of age, can you really start over after something like that??

SO... after entering the not guilty plea, i would DIG up every little piece of evidence that the state has, and conceide to it. YES, she was the last to see her daughter alive. YES, she put her body in the trunk. YES, she dumped her lifeless body in the woods. I would make sure the jury knew that i DIDNT like my own client. I WOULD NOT try to make her "act" in court. it will only backfire.

After conceding to all the evidence. that is when the "defense" would start. i would go with accidental death, with a cover-up. having the pool right there in the backyard makes it VERY easy to come up with a believable scenario. Caylee drowned. my client was guilty of taking her eyes off her child long enough to allow tragedy to take hold. After discovering caylee's body, she PANICKED.. the cadaver dogs hitting in the backyard could provide the "proof" that she took her out of the pool and layed her down to figure out what to do. The time is easy. make sure it coincides with the FRANTIC calls from KC to CA and GA that day. none were answered. she was all alone.

knowing the history of CA and KC's relationship, i would use the overbearing and controlling nature of CA to facilitate the cover-up. KC was SO afraid to tell CA that she failed, that she concocked this entire senario-not to cover up a crime, but to avoid having her mother tell her yet again that she was a failure. Next step, getting rid of the evidence (caylee).

after the realization came, she HAD to get rid of her. at this point, caylee was no longer her daughter, but another screw-up in her troubled life. she decided to use the trash bags, and the laundry bag to conceil her for the time being. placing caylee in the trunk was the ONLY way to ensure CA would not know. she drove around for hours over the next few days to find a suitable location to leave her greatest mistake. dumping caylee somehow erased what she had done. as for her behavior, she HAD to go on as if nothing was wrong, if anyone found out, it would undoubtedly get back to the one person she didnt want to know, CA. the drinking, was medication for her internal conflict. She got lost in the life that she thought she could never have, because she was a mother. No more, she was for the 1st time in a long time, free to be a twenty something partier.

when the stench became to great, the child she had all but forgotten about, came back to threaten her newfound carefree existance. she knew she had to do SOMETHING. the chosen spot was close to home. this was her way of keeping caylee close. she could drive by there everyday, and in her mind.. she was caring for her daughter. keeping a watchful eye on her resting place.

the kidnapping story didnt come into play until CA really started hasseling KC. before she dumped the body, that was her "out".. fake the kidnapping. she staged caylee to make her look like what she thought was an abducted child. the realization that this would not work, led her to abandon the idea, and place caylee so close to home.

i would concede that she was NOT an ideal mother, i would let the jury think that she was selfish and stupid. i would file as many motions possible (just like they are) because if something went wrong, we could have another crack at it. .. the jury could convict her of child neglect, tampering with evidence, lying to LE, and mishandling a body. BUT NOT murder. the sentence would be petty considering what she is now facing.

in this case, the shortest sentence would be what i would aim for.. an acquittal is not possible. there is too much evidence against her. by conceding to the evidence, the state has nothing to prove. the only thing to do would be to fill in the pieces, and she would be out of prison before her 40th birthday.

for the record, i am claiming copyright on this scenario, so bozo cannot use it... lol..

what do you think??

what would you do?

That makes sense to me...Wonder if that's what Bozo and Company will come up with, and if KC will go along with it? I don't know what I'd do...I've been in some weird situations before and have made the wrong choice... It's a difficult decision and a dilemma for all involved...I just hope that we don't have to go another round after the verdict is in...

I'm going to definitely give this some thought today. And I'll post later what I think I would do. I imagine with KC and essentially by familial association, the A's, as your client, I believe the actual defense has their hands tied to ONLY she did NOT do it.
But let me think about it.

I've always thought that the defense's best option was claiming that Caylee's death was an accident. I think they may have waited too long to do that though. The prosecution and a jury would probably wonder why they didn't say anything sooner and come to the conclusion that it was just a desperate attempt by Casey to avoid LWOP or the death penalty.

That being said, I don't think Cindy or Casey have a mindset that would allow Casey to take responsibility for Caylee's death, accidental or not. They will probably make the defense go for an outright acquittal.

oh J4a, i agree that KC wont take responsibility, but IF i were a defense attorney, this would be my angle.. i guess if KC were the client and said "no".. the ship would just go down in flames, as i believe it is on a collision course with REALITY..

bozo had remained through this saying "it will all come out at trial"... it could be a HUGE ploy to change the whole scenario. cant wait and see what their "story from fairyland" will be.

even IF the jury THINKS that it would be a ploy to avoid LWOP or DP, when presented with my story, the evidence really may support it.. and therefore leading them to make a conclusion they really dont WANT to make, but have no choice. The evidence must play a vital role in the decision, regardless of the "feelings" they may have.

i do, predict LWOP.. due to the fact that KC would not take responsibility, therefore my story is moot... just interesting to think about.

have bells on, waiting for the trial of the century to start!!!

Your story is interesting to think about Randi, and probably Casey's only realistic chance of avoiding LWOP or

If the defense had chosen to use this strategy initially, then Casey might only be facing a trial for manslaughter or some of the lesser charges you pointed out earlier.

That being said, I'm glad Baez wasn't smart enough to talk the Anthonys into using this strategy. I truly believe that Caylee's murder was premeditated, and I'm glad that Casey is being charged accordingly.

i have a Q...

when KC was at universal with the officers in the beginning... you member, going to her office that didnt exist.. she had NOT been arrested for anything, it was an open interview, right? they said many times that she was free to go as she pleased.. does ANYONE remember on the interview tapes her being mirandized?

i dont ever remember her being read her miranda rights, doesnt that mean that anything she says up until she is read her rights is inadmissable?? i guess my point is that the entire fiasco when she took them on a ride to "find" information, and even the sawgrass apartment she claims to have left caylee.. all of that, is it even going to be brought out in court??

to me, that interview at universal is VERY damaging to the defense. the entire time she is calm and even sometimes combative with the officers that are TRYING to find her daughter... i sure hope it can be used... but i am not certain..

where are all the legal eagles??

She went willing and she finally admitted that she did not work there. So according to my sources it will be allowed into evidence. If I recall she was charged with lying to LE so if it is a chargeable offense, the whole charade can be presented as evidence.

I'm pretty sure that you only have to be mirandized if you are arrested. I agree with Tiger that everything Casey said that day should be admissible.

WESH examines ‘New Defense Strategy’ — but is it new?

posted by halboedeker on September, 30 2010 7:05 PM

New in Casey Anthony reporting tonight:

***WESH’s Bob Kealing highlighted what the station described as a “New Defense Strategy,” which probably isn’t new to anyone following the case closely.

Kealing turned to local attorney Richard Hornsby to explain that strategy: Point to a third party that put Caylee’s remains in the woods. “It rebuts what the state has been saying this whole time,” Hornsby said.

Yet that strategy could fall apart and hurt the defense if DNA of a third party isn’t found, Hornsby added.

Read more: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/09/casey-anthony-wesh-examines-new-defense-strategy-but-is-it-new.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

Questioning Of Key Witness In Anthony Case Revealed

Medical Examiner Challenged On Manner Of Death, Location Of Duct Tape, Possible Drowning

UPDATED: 6:18 am EST February 25, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- It was Thursday, Dec. 11, 2008, and Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia was late for her plane.

VIDEO: Tony Pipitone's Report

Then she got word that skeletal remains of a child had been found around the corner from the home of Casey Anthony, the young woman she knew had been indicted two months earlier in the death of Anthony’s missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Caylee was missing no more.

But, Garavaglia told Local 6 Thursday, she could not change her plans.

When she returned to her office Saturday, Dec. 13, Garavaglia took over the case from a relatively new hire, Dr. Garry Utz. “I felt that Dr. Utz hadn’t been here that long and that I should go ahead and take it over,” she said.

Read more: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/26989474/detail.html

Casey Anthony experts show how defense plans to attack

March 04, 2011|By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel

Three days of hearings captured most of the attention in the Casey Anthony murder case this week, but hundreds of pages of witness statements filed Thursday offer fresh details of how the woman's defense may develop at trial.

The witnesses challenge some of the critical scientific evidence expected to be presented by prosecutors hoping to convict Anthony of kililing her 2-year-old daughter two years ago.

Collectively, the defense experts question: the reliability of dogs used to search fordecomposing remains early in the case; the length of time the child's remains lay in the woods before they were found; and the theory that a dead body spent time in the trunk of Anthony's Pontiac.

Read more:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-03-04/news/os-casey-anthony-defense-experts-20110304_1_casey-anthony-scott-fairgrieve-dogs

Wow...if the botanical evidence is negated I can see a lot of appeals happening in other cases...Setting a president for new arguments...Same goes for the entimological evidence...One reason there wasn't as much BUG stuff in the trunk was because Cindy had cleaned it out...There is no way negating the ODOR..even Casey complained about it...

Casey Anthony defense expert questions Dr. G's autopsy

By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:22 AM

ORLANDO --

A newly released report gives a better look at the defense strategy Casey Anthony's lawyers will use in her upcoming trial.

A defense expert has claimed there is no way of knowing that 2-year-old Caylee Anthony's death was murder.

Read more: http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/march/218804/Casey-Anthony-defense-expert-questions-Dr.-Gs-autopsy

Here is a link to Dr. Spitz's report on the second autopsy.

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/casey-anthony-2nd-autopsy-werner-spitz-0315.pdf

Experts Disagree Over Whether Death Was Homicide

UPDATED: 5:31 pm EDT March 15, 2011



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Veteran attorney and prosecutor Jeff Deen told WESH 2 News the jury could believe either side, based on the evidence that is presented in court. If jurors find both opinions credible, it's a window for reasonable doubt, Deen said. Deen is not connected with the case.

In a report dated March 10, defense expert Dr. Warner Spitz said scientific evidence does not support a finding by Orange County Medial Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia that Caylee's cause of death was homicide by undetermined means. Spitz performed a second autopsy on Caylee's remains.

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27205629/detail.html

Document Raises Questions About Evidence In Casey Case

Updated: 10:04 am EDT March 15, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A newly released report (read it) shows Casey Anthony’s defense is trying to claim the Orange County medical examiner botched Caylee Anthony's autopsy.

READ: Defense Dr. On Caylee Autopsy
VIDEO REPORT: Defense: Autopsy Was Botched

The defense is trying to prove that the duct tape on Caylee's mouth was placed there after Casey was already in jail.

Casey's defense team is working hard to discredit the Orange County medical examiner Dr. Jan Garavalia and her findings of Caylee's autopsy.

“Many have tried to discredit her, few if any have been successful,” said WFTV’s legal analyst Bill Scheaffer.

Read more: http://www.wftv.com/news/27194195/detail.html

This is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard...Absolutely...I think Team Casey has been hitting the Jello Shooters cause it sure sound shaky to me...I don't see how an autopsy on what Dr. G had to work with could be "botched"...I'm pretty sure this sinking boat will be blown out of the water...

There is no way to defend against the duct tape found on Caylee's mouth area. It might well have been put there after she was already dead to stage a kidnapping or something....but too bad if it was because it was a dumb idea that makes it look like homicide by Casey. Very dumb if it was staged because it wouldn't be likely the 'nanny' would have tossed Caylee with the tape still on her. Too risky. Casey though, IMO, would toss Caylee with the killer duct tape still on her because she doesn't give a crap what people find...she can just lie - or so she thinks.

Defense Strategies

1. Blame it on the Nanny.
2. Claim old pizza or a dead squirrel caused Casey's trunk to smell like a dead body was in there.
3. Claim Caylee is still alive
4. Blame it on Kronk.
5. Claim Caylee's body was placed in the woods after Casey was arrested.
6. Claim the duct tape was placed on Caylee's mouth after Casey was arrested.
7. Delay, Delay, Delay!
8. File endless motions to challenge all evidence.
9. File motions to rehear previously denied motions.
10. Try to get Judge removed when endless motions are denied.
11. Claim Dr. G botched Caylee's autopsy.
12. Question whether Caylee's death was a homicide.
13. Attempt to get all of Casey's lies excluded from evidence.
14. Rinse, recycle, repeat.

The defense is running out of options and the clock is ticking. Their current strategies will only serve to try the Judge's patience and insult the intelligence of the jury. Justice for Caylee is near.

The picture below was Casey's reaction to the testimony of Dr. Vass. I can't wait to see her reaction when the verdict is read.

That sure is a 'you've got to be kidding me' look if I ever saw one... This one is for guilty... Then she'll say but

Very good Estee.

Could Casey's Defense Turn Focus To George?

Updated: 6:34 pm EDT March 28, 2011

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ORLANDO, Fla. -- New names on Casey Anthony's defense witness list could be signaling a major change in strategy. WFTV found out one of those witnesses was pushed by Casey's father during a protest outside their home.

BILL SHEAFFER: Analysis Of Possible New Strategy
VIDEO REPORT: Is Defense Shifting Focus?
GEORGE GETS AGGRESSIVE: Images | Raw Video
INCIDENT REPORT: Read Battery Accusations

Two of the witnesses appeared in a WFTV report in 2008 after George pushed one of them. Another new witness specializes in post traumatic stress disorder.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says the defense might try to portray George as Caylee's killer.

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Sheaffer says George could even go along with it, even going so far as to plead the Fifth if the defense asks him whether he killed Caylee.

Read more: http://www.wftv.com/news/27348810/detail.html

This sounds out there, but I wouldn't put anything past the defense or the Anthonys. This would fall in line with all the other defense strategies that are going to insult the intelligence of the jury. It's really a shame that taxpayers have to foot the bill for the defense to make a mockery of the justice system.

Look out George, here comes that bus!!!

It does sound outlandish, but look who's involved. Nothing would surprise me!

Now here's a thought...Perhaps Casey had post traumatic stress syndrome...afterall child birth is traumatic...no doubt she also sufferred from post partum depression and complicated post traumatic stress syndrome once she realised that she had caused her daughters death (to put it nicely)...Then she had no choice but ugly coping, denial, delusional thinking and actually believing that she was a victim too...So cover her ass she did by lying...

I honestly think that she had every intention in the world of leaving town but with no money she decided to hideout with every Tom, Harry and anyone that had a penis...It is a shame that she felt so hopeless that she had to rid herself of the one thing that was beautiful in her life...IMO Cindy and George had given her a good life and admittedly spoiled Casey rotten...She had nothing to work with and no desire to better herself...She probably thought that every bonafide male thought she was the cats meow...I guess she now knows that life will go on with out her...I don't see any of her past pursuers standing in the wings and vowing undying love or insisting that they will wait for her...

It's a hard way to grow up fast...to realise this...She will get it in the end or in the arm or just around the corner...What goes around comes around...KARMA baby...just think about it...

George Anthony's attorney has responded to the speculation about the defense blaming George for Caylee's death.

Attorney: George Anthony Didn't Kill Caylee

Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Death Of Daughter

UPDATED: 1:52 pm EDT March 29, 2011

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Orlando attorney Mark Lippman issued the statement amid a media report saying that Casey Anthony's defense could suggest that George Anthony was responsible for Caylee's death.

In the statement, Lippman said, "George Anthony had nothing to do with the death of Caylee Marie Anthony. He has been investigated, deposed, examined and cross examined by both the prosecution and the defense, and neither the defense team nor the state of Florida have maintained that he is at fault in any way."

Read more: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/27358680/detail.html#

Here are a couple of interesting tidbits from the Florida Rules of Judicial Administration regarding the removal of a judge. It doesn't look like Judge Perry is going anywhere anytime soon.

(d) Grounds. A motion to disqualify shall show: (1) that the party fears that he or she will not receive a fair trial or hearing because of specifically described prejudice or bias of the judge;

(g) Determination — Successive Motions. If a judge (Strickland) has been previously disqualified on motion for alleged prejudice or partiality under subdivision (d)(1), a successor judge (Perry) shall not be disqualified based on a successive motion by the same party unless the successor judge rules that he or she is in fact not fair or impartial in the case. Such a successor judge may rule on the truth of the facts alleged in support of the motion.

You can read all the rules at the following link:

http://www.floridabar.org/TFB/TFBResources.nsf/Attachments/F854D695BA7136B085257316005E7DE7/$FILE/Judicial.pdf

So good to know that no matter what Team Casey comes up with they won't get Judge Perry to step down...They should have reconsidered the motion to have Judge Stan recuse himself before they made their fatal mistake...Well hind sight is great, ain't it ????

Will Casey's Attorneys Use Manson Case To Discredit Evidence?

Updated: 6:48 pm EDT March 31, 2011

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VIDEO REPORT: Will Manson Case Be Used To Discredit Evidence?

The defense tried to discredit Vass over a search he'd done at the Manson ranch, decades after Charles Manson's murder conviction, to find more bodies. The defense questioned Vass about finding only animal remains after saying the soil showed evidence of human decomposition.

Read more: http://www.wftv.com/news/27390001/detail.html