Reality Chatter
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

+37
Estee
Willow123
emberl
Calypso
Weeziethm
Puzzler
KathyNY
Stolat
Dakota Bella
Marica
summerthyme
Dis
DebFrmHell
KZ
back2back19
ishi
Cubs Fan
AugustWA
sitemama
Justice4all
angela_nw
Hinky's Mimi
Julie
CherokeeNative
serenaz1
Freckles
Porky
Gizmo711
snowbird
Requiem
Ann - Tx
alabama52
justanopinion
Alessandra_Deux
ellejay
WeeBonnie
Chickenbutt
41 posters

Page 14 of 20 Previous  1 ... 8 ... 13, 14, 15 ... 20  Next

Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Puzzler Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:09 am

So, PayPal has limitations/rules of amounts to be transferred
Puzzler
Puzzler

Posts : 1022
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:09 am

After Bond hearing money trans back to GZ account
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:10 am

Chickenbutt wrote:This is way confusing..and very hard to report....to many dates and numbers

I use to work my summers in college as a stenographer -- can type fast, but doesn't help much when numbers are flying all over the place -- this is hard to follow.

But the gist is that prosecution is trying to make it clear that the specific use of CASH is epidemic to the deception employed by GZ - and it is a slippery technicality that the witness is trying to claim is the basis of his having no records or documentation or backup for such transactions (because cash leaves no money trail). Which is prosecution's point -- why would someone move THAT much money in CASH if there was not specific intent to leave no money trail? Witness is stumbling over this fact.

Wit was not under the impression he would have to account for this CASH amount. Came unprepared.
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by CherokeeNative Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:13 am

Do I see Taffe in the audience? On Left by back wall?
CherokeeNative
CherokeeNative

Posts : 813
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : PNW
Mood : Feeling beat up

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 am

I'm back to live feed...

wit has no records of what was put into safety box

Household items funding spent on:
Target
Walmart
Health Central- medical items
Dining Out
Funds used to pay off WAMU college loans


Last edited by Stolat on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 am; edited 1 time in total
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 am

SZ 250.00 check to WAMU
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by CherokeeNative Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 am

Wow, Cory is there in person
CherokeeNative
CherokeeNative

Posts : 813
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : PNW
Mood : Feeling beat up

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:16 am

O'Mara ....Jazz Hands...
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by serenaz1 Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:19 am

Stolat wrote:O'Mara ....Jazz Hands...

Very Happy
serenaz1
serenaz1

Posts : 353
Join date : 2012-05-19

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by serenaz1 Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:20 am

Hey, O'Mara, you're not on the stand, quit testifying!
serenaz1
serenaz1

Posts : 353
Join date : 2012-05-19

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:20 am

Judge "sustained" an objection FOR the prosecution BEFORE the prosecution could even utter it. For leading...argumentative... courtroom laughed. LMFAO
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by emberl Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:22 am

It really does not matter what he did with the money.

What matters is that he did not tell the court he had the money.

emberl

Posts : 95
Join date : 2012-05-13

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:23 am

I have heard enough....let the judge rule!
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by serenaz1 Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:23 am

emberl wrote:It really does not matter what he did with the money.

What matters is that he did not tell the court he had the money.

EXACTLY, I was just going to post that, let's move on O'Mara!
serenaz1
serenaz1

Posts : 353
Join date : 2012-05-19

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Puzzler Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:26 am

All money accounted for...

All money spent for stated purposes asking for donations
Puzzler
Puzzler

Posts : 1022
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:27 am

Sister opened up an account at GZ's Credit Union at the same time all these transactions occured. Had not had an account there before.

Witness admitted that to hide money, one would move it around as CASH

which he just stated earlier that is exactly what GZ did for a large portion of money


Last edited by Stolat on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:28 am; edited 1 time in total
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Puzzler Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:27 am

There was no hiding of money - all money is accounted for
Puzzler
Puzzler

Posts : 1022
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by snowbird Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:29 am

I hope the judge doesn't buy what O' mair is shoveling.
snowbird
snowbird

Posts : 782
Join date : 2012-05-14
Location : louisiana
Mood : Happy

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:29 am

MOM going to lay a portion of the re creation video
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:30 am

Witness stated that in his opinion one purpose for someone moving money in CASH -- which leaves ZERO money trail -- is to hide it.

Which means, he can't prove what it was used for or if it was spent then replenished by someone OTHER than donors, as they claim are the only source of funds. Because there is zero money trail while it was out of the account in the form of CASH. No one can prove at that point that their claims are true -- there is zero money trail
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by ellejay Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:31 am

http://twitter.com/#!/daralenejones

Daralene Jones ‏@DaraleneJones WFTV

#GeorgeZimmerman's brother is no longer in courtroom...could be a sign that he will testify
ellejay
ellejay

Posts : 843
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Porky Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:32 am

I am at work and using the ABC stream link but the sound quality is very poor and i can hardly hear anything. Does anyone have a link with good sound quality?

Porky

Posts : 270
Join date : 2012-05-18

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:33 am

Focus on the difference in look and demeanor of GZ in video and in court.

ETA: this was my observation not anyone on TV or in the court...lol


Last edited by Chickenbutt on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:35 am; edited 1 time in total
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:33 am

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/cvplive/cvpstream3

Try this
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by ellejay Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:33 am



Steve Helling‏@stevehelling--People Magazine

More than a dozen cameras are set up for post-hearing press conferences. #Zimmerman #Trayvon
ellejay
ellejay

Posts : 843
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:33 am

In video GZ says that TM was ONLY focused on his head, in terms of injuries, no other bodily location
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by ellejay Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:34 am

Porky wrote:I am at work and using the ABC stream link but the sound quality is very poor and i can hardly hear anything. Does anyone have a link with good sound quality?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/239949/additonal-live-stream
ellejay
ellejay

Posts : 843
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by ellejay Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:35 am

Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

Also--Mark O'Mara told @WFTV that there is proof #GeorgeZimmerman told his wife to tell the truth when she testified in court
ellejay
ellejay

Posts : 843
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by emberl Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:36 am

What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?

emberl

Posts : 95
Join date : 2012-05-13

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:36 am

Injury to right upper quadrant? What the heck is that about?
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by serenaz1 Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:36 am

I missed who Z was saying gave all the injury info, did he mean a paramedic?
serenaz1
serenaz1

Posts : 353
Join date : 2012-05-19

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Injury to right upper quadrant? What the heck is that about?

Head.
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 am

emberl....I have no clue.
Judge doesn't look impressed either
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by serenaz1 Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 am

emberl wrote:What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?

I've read one guess that it's to show Lester that the evidence isn't so strong against Z, like Lester said in the revocation order.
serenaz1
serenaz1

Posts : 353
Join date : 2012-05-19

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by CherokeeNative Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 am

Kevin...here is Kevin
CherokeeNative
CherokeeNative

Posts : 813
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : PNW
Mood : Feeling beat up

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Alessandra_Deux Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:38 am

Chickenbutt wrote:MOM going to lay a portion of the re creation video

What does it has to do with the hearing at this time? Is this a distraction from the "money laundering operation" and from lying to the court to conceal assets?
Alessandra_Deux
Alessandra_Deux

Posts : 21195
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:39 am

emberl wrote:What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?

Ya, right?

Not sure, but I *think* this has something to do with the "14 motions" filed that they are going to lump all into this hearing(?) Did I hear that right. Prosecution said -- "we're going to cover all 14? Okay..."

So I think it has something to do with that - but still not sure what the scope is
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Porky Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:39 am

Thanks CB et all I can hear now

Porky

Posts : 270
Join date : 2012-05-18

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:39 am

Right upper quadrant of his head? That is odd...I have never in all my years heard it described like that. I think RUQ of abdomen....silly me
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Weeziethm Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:41 am

Porky wrote:I am at work and using the ABC stream link but the sound quality is very poor and i can hardly hear anything. Does anyone have a link with good sound quality?

This is working well too...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-wofl-livestream,0,5008134.htmlstory
Weeziethm
Weeziethm

Posts : 2310
Join date : 2012-05-12
Mood : Party

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by emberl Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:41 am

serenaz1 wrote:
emberl wrote:What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?

I've read one guess that it's to show Lester that the evidence isn't so strong against Z, like Lester said in the revocation order.



Thanks.

emberl

Posts : 95
Join date : 2012-05-13

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Alessandra_Deux Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:42 am

ellejay wrote:Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones

Also--Mark O'Mara told @WFTV that there is proof #GeorgeZimmerman told his wife to tell the truth when she testified in court

Really? I have to read the transcript again to refresh my memory about the questions that O'Mara specifically asked Shellie.
Alessandra_Deux
Alessandra_Deux

Posts : 21195
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by ellejay Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:43 am

--trayvon's parents in the front row (left side of room) behind prosecution table...angela corey sitting with de la rionda..
ellejay
ellejay

Posts : 843
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:43 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Right upper quadrant of his head? That is odd...I have never in all my years heard it described like that. I think RUQ of abdomen....silly me

I'm not a medical person (allergic to people not feeling well HA!) but when they said that it was when they were showing the right side profile of his head and they were pointing to the pin-dots of abrasions on his right side. So I'm guessing that is what they were referring to.
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Alessandra_Deux Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:44 am

George injuries were not life threatening.
Alessandra_Deux
Alessandra_Deux

Posts : 21195
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:44 am

Stolat...thank you. Just a very odd choice of words IMO
Chickenbutt
Chickenbutt

Posts : 1509
Join date : 2012-05-11

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Alessandra_Deux Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:45 am

ellejay wrote:--trayvon's parents in the front row (left side of room) behind prosecution table...angela corey sitting with de la rionda..

Thank you.
Alessandra_Deux
Alessandra_Deux

Posts : 21195
Join date : 2012-05-12

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Willow123 Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:46 am

Just another case of how stupid do they think people and the judge (court) are. This will taint the jury pool for sure.

Willow123

Posts : 336
Join date : 2012-05-15

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Stolat Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:47 am

witnessed testified that a cut to the head would produce a "disproportionate amount of blood" compared to the same size laceration on an arm. In other words, the same cut to the arm, with the same degree of injury would have produced far less blood, and therefore would appear less severe and indicate less trauma.

Bottom line - same cut to the arm wouldn't have looked nearly as bad.
Stolat
Stolat

Posts : 801
Join date : 2012-05-12
Location : Oddly Somewhere Close To You

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by emberl Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:50 am

That's right, GZ was still standing and talking, Trayvon was dead.

emberl

Posts : 95
Join date : 2012-05-13

Back to top Go down

George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4 - Page 14 Empty Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 14 of 20 Previous  1 ... 8 ... 13, 14, 15 ... 20  Next

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum