George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4
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Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4
So, PayPal has limitations/rules of amounts to be transferred
Puzzler- Posts : 1022
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After Bond hearing money trans back to GZ account
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Chickenbutt wrote:This is way confusing..and very hard to report....to many dates and numbers
I use to work my summers in college as a stenographer -- can type fast, but doesn't help much when numbers are flying all over the place -- this is hard to follow.
But the gist is that prosecution is trying to make it clear that the specific use of CASH is epidemic to the deception employed by GZ - and it is a slippery technicality that the witness is trying to claim is the basis of his having no records or documentation or backup for such transactions (because cash leaves no money trail). Which is prosecution's point -- why would someone move THAT much money in CASH if there was not specific intent to leave no money trail? Witness is stumbling over this fact.
Wit was not under the impression he would have to account for this CASH amount. Came unprepared.
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Do I see Taffe in the audience? On Left by back wall?
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I'm back to live feed...
wit has no records of what was put into safety box
Household items funding spent on:
Target
Walmart
Health Central- medical items
Dining Out
Funds used to pay off WAMU college loans
wit has no records of what was put into safety box
Household items funding spent on:
Target
Walmart
Health Central- medical items
Dining Out
Funds used to pay off WAMU college loans
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SZ 250.00 check to WAMU
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Wow, Cory is there in person
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O'Mara ....Jazz Hands...
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Stolat wrote:O'Mara ....Jazz Hands...
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Hey, O'Mara, you're not on the stand, quit testifying!
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Judge "sustained" an objection FOR the prosecution BEFORE the prosecution could even utter it. For leading...argumentative... courtroom laughed. LMFAO
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It really does not matter what he did with the money.
What matters is that he did not tell the court he had the money.
What matters is that he did not tell the court he had the money.
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I have heard enough....let the judge rule!
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emberl wrote:It really does not matter what he did with the money.
What matters is that he did not tell the court he had the money.
EXACTLY, I was just going to post that, let's move on O'Mara!
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All money accounted for...
All money spent for stated purposes asking for donations
All money spent for stated purposes asking for donations
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Sister opened up an account at GZ's Credit Union at the same time all these transactions occured. Had not had an account there before.
Witness admitted that to hide money, one would move it around as CASH
which he just stated earlier that is exactly what GZ did for a large portion of money
Witness admitted that to hide money, one would move it around as CASH
which he just stated earlier that is exactly what GZ did for a large portion of money
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There was no hiding of money - all money is accounted for
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I hope the judge doesn't buy what O' mair is shoveling.
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MOM going to lay a portion of the re creation video
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Witness stated that in his opinion one purpose for someone moving money in CASH -- which leaves ZERO money trail -- is to hide it.
Which means, he can't prove what it was used for or if it was spent then replenished by someone OTHER than donors, as they claim are the only source of funds. Because there is zero money trail while it was out of the account in the form of CASH. No one can prove at that point that their claims are true -- there is zero money trail
Which means, he can't prove what it was used for or if it was spent then replenished by someone OTHER than donors, as they claim are the only source of funds. Because there is zero money trail while it was out of the account in the form of CASH. No one can prove at that point that their claims are true -- there is zero money trail
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http://twitter.com/#!/daralenejones
Daralene Jones ‏@DaraleneJones WFTV
#GeorgeZimmerman's brother is no longer in courtroom...could be a sign that he will testify
Daralene Jones ‏@DaraleneJones WFTV
#GeorgeZimmerman's brother is no longer in courtroom...could be a sign that he will testify
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I am at work and using the ABC stream link but the sound quality is very poor and i can hardly hear anything. Does anyone have a link with good sound quality?
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Focus on the difference in look and demeanor of GZ in video and in court.
ETA: this was my observation not anyone on TV or in the court...lol
ETA: this was my observation not anyone on TV or in the court...lol
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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/cvplive/cvpstream3
Try this
Try this
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Steve Helling‏@stevehelling--People Magazine
More than a dozen cameras are set up for post-hearing press conferences. #Zimmerman #Trayvon
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In video GZ says that TM was ONLY focused on his head, in terms of injuries, no other bodily location
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Porky wrote:I am at work and using the ABC stream link but the sound quality is very poor and i can hardly hear anything. Does anyone have a link with good sound quality?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/239949/additonal-live-stream
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Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones
Also--Mark O'Mara told @WFTV that there is proof #GeorgeZimmerman told his wife to tell the truth when she testified in court
Also--Mark O'Mara told @WFTV that there is proof #GeorgeZimmerman told his wife to tell the truth when she testified in court
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What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?
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Injury to right upper quadrant? What the heck is that about?
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I missed who Z was saying gave all the injury info, did he mean a paramedic?
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Chickenbutt wrote:Injury to right upper quadrant? What the heck is that about?
Head.
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emberl....I have no clue.
Judge doesn't look impressed either
Judge doesn't look impressed either
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emberl wrote:What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?
I've read one guess that it's to show Lester that the evidence isn't so strong against Z, like Lester said in the revocation order.
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Kevin...here is Kevin
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Chickenbutt wrote:MOM going to lay a portion of the re creation video
What does it has to do with the hearing at this time? Is this a distraction from the "money laundering operation" and from lying to the court to conceal assets?
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emberl wrote:What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?
Ya, right?
Not sure, but I *think* this has something to do with the "14 motions" filed that they are going to lump all into this hearing(?) Did I hear that right. Prosecution said -- "we're going to cover all 14? Okay..."
So I think it has something to do with that - but still not sure what the scope is
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Thanks CB et all I can hear now
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Right upper quadrant of his head? That is odd...I have never in all my years heard it described like that. I think RUQ of abdomen....silly me
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Porky wrote:I am at work and using the ABC stream link but the sound quality is very poor and i can hardly hear anything. Does anyone have a link with good sound quality?
This is working well too...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-wofl-livestream,0,5008134.htmlstory
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serenaz1 wrote:emberl wrote:What do GZ's injuries have to do with bond?
I've read one guess that it's to show Lester that the evidence isn't so strong against Z, like Lester said in the revocation order.
Thanks.
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ellejay wrote:Daralene Jones‏@DaraleneJones
Also--Mark O'Mara told @WFTV that there is proof #GeorgeZimmerman told his wife to tell the truth when she testified in court
Really? I have to read the transcript again to refresh my memory about the questions that O'Mara specifically asked Shellie.
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--trayvon's parents in the front row (left side of room) behind prosecution table...angela corey sitting with de la rionda..
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Chickenbutt wrote:Right upper quadrant of his head? That is odd...I have never in all my years heard it described like that. I think RUQ of abdomen....silly me
I'm not a medical person (allergic to people not feeling well HA!) but when they said that it was when they were showing the right side profile of his head and they were pointing to the pin-dots of abrasions on his right side. So I'm guessing that is what they were referring to.
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George injuries were not life threatening.
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Stolat...thank you. Just a very odd choice of words IMO
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ellejay wrote:--trayvon's parents in the front row (left side of room) behind prosecution table...angela corey sitting with de la rionda..
Thank you.
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Just another case of how stupid do they think people and the judge (court) are. This will taint the jury pool for sure.
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witnessed testified that a cut to the head would produce a "disproportionate amount of blood" compared to the same size laceration on an arm. In other words, the same cut to the arm, with the same degree of injury would have produced far less blood, and therefore would appear less severe and indicate less trauma.
Bottom line - same cut to the arm wouldn't have looked nearly as bad.
Bottom line - same cut to the arm wouldn't have looked nearly as bad.
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That's right, GZ was still standing and talking, Trayvon was dead.
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