George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4
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Re: George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin Case #4
I hope the trial goes off smoother than this hearing.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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serenaz1 wrote:Can we please get to the excuse of why your client lied to the court about his financial status?!?
It appears that O'Mara in evading that altogether.
I don't particularily like the way the prosecution is handling this. I would have been onjecting left and right (but of course I'm not a lawyer).
The reason for this hearing is because Zimmerman and wife lied under oath. That is why the original bond was revoked, why are they going all over the place instead of where they should be?
Gizmo711- Posts : 804
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Open mics....be careful folks!
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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George does research for his law degree while in courtroom same as CA
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angela_nw- Posts : 93
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Chickenbutt wrote:I hope the trial goes off smoother than this hearing.
The way it's going I was under the impression that this IS the trial. I bet Zimmerman is feeling good about now, he may think he is going to be found "not guilty" today.
This is all
Gizmo711- Posts : 804
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Back....MOM having computer trouble
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Playing 911 tape
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Gunshots....pan to TM's family.....heads down, shaking heads
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Done with 911 call......wit available, but doesn't want to call her
GZ dad showed up at SA office, ID's GZ voice
Calling Dad Z to stand
GZ dad showed up at SA office, ID's GZ voice
Calling Dad Z to stand
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Daddy Z to the stand re the screams.
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Have to say...O'Mara is ready for this hearing.
Puzzler- Posts : 1022
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Hmmmm...Marinade Dave in the gallery
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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VP says GZ not going to testify today...no explanation for lying to court
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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I'm sure that Daddy Z. is somewhat familiar with Georgie's screams for help because Georgie called him, screaming for help, many times!
alabama52- Posts : 214
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Chickenbutt wrote:Hmmmm...Marinade Dave in the gallery
I hope he's not going to cause trouble like he did in the other case last year in Florida.
emberl- Posts : 95
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GZ's dad being sworn
Doesn't look like I expected him too. Not a big man
Playing 911 call again.
Doesn't look like I expected him too. Not a big man
Playing 911 call again.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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GZ not looking at his dad...looks down when gunshots go off....swallows hard
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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I hope the state calls Trayvon's mother to the stand to say that it is her son crying for help.
alabama52- Posts : 214
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Dad Z listened to tape 2 times before making ID. ID's "absolutely Georges"
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Why are this allowed at the bond hearing? I had a phone call and missed a lot.
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Pros up....
Heard it once...too many people talking. Put on headphones I was able to tell it was GZ.
Heard it once...too many people talking. Put on headphones I was able to tell it was GZ.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Having George's father testifying to "authenticate" George's "screams" in the 911 call is a tactical move to influence public opinion before the trial. I really don't understand why the judge is allowing this testimony, it is completely out of the scope.
This is not a Stand Your Ground hearing, this a hearing to determine if George will be granted bail after he lied to the court.
This is not a Stand Your Ground hearing, this a hearing to determine if George will be granted bail after he lied to the court.
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Any parent would be able to identify their child screaming.
You don't have to listen several times.
I really object to the judge allowing this "trial warm up".
That is what MOM appears to be doing--- trying different theories, witnesses.
George looked like he was going to cry when Dad took the stand.
You don't have to listen several times.
I really object to the judge allowing this "trial warm up".
That is what MOM appears to be doing--- trying different theories, witnesses.
George looked like he was going to cry when Dad took the stand.
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He had previously heard him scream.
I had talked to him after this happened.
Pros: TM one hand over his mouth and one hand over his nose
WOuldn't that be inconsistent with screaming.'
No, his injuries show TM's hands were not only on his nose and mouth
I had talked to him after this happened.
Pros: TM one hand over his mouth and one hand over his nose
WOuldn't that be inconsistent with screaming.'
No, his injuries show TM's hands were not only on his nose and mouth
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Ohh...GZ going to make stmt.....will not ask questions or expose him to cross
Pros: I would like to question him about why he let his wife lie
Pros: I would like to question him about why he let his wife lie
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Is MOM trying to get this all in so it can't be disallowed during the real trial??
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Well now, Mr. Zimmerman was here today as a witness.
Why not during the last bondhearing???????
Why not during the last bondhearing???????
emberl- Posts : 95
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I wish they would play the audio tape from the jail where Shellie tells George he is going to have a great life or whatever - more powerful regarding their deceit.
angela_nw- Posts : 93
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The Judge is not going for this at all.
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Allocution not subject to cross
MOM: I will let you (Judge) to question GZ
Judge: No different than anyone else. He can testify or not, but he cant pick and choose what he wants to do.
I am not going to examine him. If he wants to invoke his 5th fine, if he just chooses not to testify, fine.
MOM: I will let you (Judge) to question GZ
Judge: No different than anyone else. He can testify or not, but he cant pick and choose what he wants to do.
I am not going to examine him. If he wants to invoke his 5th fine, if he just chooses not to testify, fine.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Love this Judge!!
emberl- Posts : 95
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Guess no testimony frm GZ today.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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MOM yammering on.....how would you act if you were 28 and someone gave you a lot of money? Got charged with a crime, got thrown outta your house.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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MOM: Hey! GZ was NOT thrown out of his hous, his town or his state. GZ ELECTED to leave on his OWN volition!
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Chickenbutt wrote:Allocution not subject to cross
MOM: I will let you (Judge) to question GZ
Judge: No different than anyone else. He can testify or not, but he cant pick and choose what he wants to do.
I am not going to examine him. If he wants to invoke his 5th fine, if he just chooses not to testify, fine.
Bravo to Judge!
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MOM admts GZ hid money, from his family, from the jail people..but no negative intent.
Nothing about deceiving the judge or MOM
Obvious they are hiding it from "the system"
Nothing about deceiving the judge or MOM
Obvious they are hiding it from "the system"
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Bottom line is GZ lied to the court.
End off story.
End off story.
emberl- Posts : 95
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Sorry I missed this but could someone please explain to me about the passport or duplicate passport.
Willow123- Posts : 336
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SZ didn't show truth. GZ should have jumped up and said she is lying. Judge says, "a tug on the sleeve"...lol
Ahhh, SA trying to put him away for life, police arresting him, poor 28 y/o
Ahhh, SA trying to put him away for life, police arresting him, poor 28 y/o
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Can't be seen in public, may get shot
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MOM: His tactic seems to be to ask the court/the system to HELP GZ TRUST the system. GZ just doesn't trust and that is the fault of the courts, right? Bunch of BS.
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Freckles wrote:MOM: His tactic seems to be to ask the court/the system to HELP GZ TRUST the system. GZ just doesn't trust and that is the fault of the courts, right? Bunch of BS.
Totally!
Alessandra_Deux- Posts : 21195
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He told me at first opportunity
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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MOM trying to convince that one's truthfulness in courtroom can be mitigated by one's mistrust of the system? WHAT?
angela_nw- Posts : 93
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Mistruth.....have we heard that before???
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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ahh....there it is.
"mis-truth"
C'mon MOM, tell it like it is. It was a LIE.
"mis-truth"
C'mon MOM, tell it like it is. It was a LIE.
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Complied with police and court, ths was the only mistruth. He mistrusted you (the judge) and the system.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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Chickenbutt wrote:Can't be seen in public, may get shot
Then he is better off in jail, right?
Alessandra_Deux- Posts : 21195
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Judge stops MOM....what happened when we had bond hearing is what this is all about.
Chickenbutt- Posts : 1509
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MOM: States TM was minding his own business. Just as GZ was minding his own business.
BS! GZ was NOT minding his own business unless minding his own business was murdering a teen!
BS! GZ was NOT minding his own business unless minding his own business was murdering a teen!
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