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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120708/NEWS01/120709722/petition-for-chamberlain-s-arrest-won-t-likely-sway-law-enforcement&pager=full_story
Petition for Chamberlain’s arrest won’t likely sway law enforcement Posted: 07/08/12 12:01 am
Updated: 07/08/12 07:11 am
An online petition calling for the arrest of Jaimee Chamberlain is not likely to have an effect on law enforcement or result in her incarceration.
When arresting Bennett for abusing Carnel, a grand jury indictment was not required because under federal law, the charge is a misdemeanor, Swedlow said.
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hundreds of laws and we still fail children in this country! child abuse needs to be a felony-
Petition for Chamberlain’s arrest won’t likely sway law enforcement Posted: 07/08/12 12:01 am
Updated: 07/08/12 07:11 am
An online petition calling for the arrest of Jaimee Chamberlain is not likely to have an effect on law enforcement or result in her incarceration.
When arresting Bennett for abusing Carnel, a grand jury indictment was not required because under federal law, the charge is a misdemeanor, Swedlow said.
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hundreds of laws and we still fail children in this country! child abuse needs to be a felony-
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
A misdemeanor?!?!?!?!?!
I would sooooooooo love to use some capital letters right now.
I see where the federal government's priorities are... Though definitely not children!
I would sooooooooo love to use some capital letters right now.
I see where the federal government's priorities are... Though definitely not children!
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Tinyworm wrote:A misdemeanor?!?!?!?!?!
I would sooooooooo love to use some capital letters right now.
I see where the federal government's priorities are... Though definitely not children!
According to the reports, he was charged with a felony:
"Bennett, a 20-year-old member of the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe, was arraigned Friday on a four-year felony count of assault resulting in substantial bodily injury to a child. Court records indicate Bennett had been living with Carnel and his mother, 21-year-old Jaimee Chamberlain, when he punched, choked and dragged the boy several times in late May and early June."
http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2012/07/anthony_bennett_man_charged_wi.html
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120707/OPINION03/120709718/break-the-cycle-for-carnel&pager=full_story
Break the cycle for Carnel
How programs to protect our children failed Carnel is not yet clear, but it is clear that Carnel had a long history of sadness in both the state and Tribal court and protective services system.
Break the cycle for Carnel
How programs to protect our children failed Carnel is not yet clear, but it is clear that Carnel had a long history of sadness in both the state and Tribal court and protective services system.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
http://www.ourmidland.com/police_and_courts/article_5452d122-c9bd-11e1-b5a9-0019bb2963f4.html
Midland Daily News - Midland, MI -- 7/9/12
Courthouse Roundup: Man due in federal court on charges of assaulting boy
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This site does not allow C/P. I typed in the title.
Per this article, Anthony Bennett is due in Federal Court this Friday, 7-13-12, for a preliminary examination of the case.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Anthony Bennett, man charged with abusing Carnel Chamberlain, due back in court in Bay City on Friday
The FBI is conducting an investigation and yet to publicly address Carnel’s death, though family members have confirmed authorities believe it was the child’s remains they found.
Bennett has not been charged in connection with Carnel’s disappearance or death. His charge stems from abuse Jaimee Chamberlain alleges occurred in May and June. According to a criminal complaint, Chamberlain observed injuries to her son and witnessed Bennett punch, choke and drag the boy.
http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2012/07/anthony_bennett_man_charged_wi_1.html
The FBI is conducting an investigation and yet to publicly address Carnel’s death, though family members have confirmed authorities believe it was the child’s remains they found.
Bennett has not been charged in connection with Carnel’s disappearance or death. His charge stems from abuse Jaimee Chamberlain alleges occurred in May and June. According to a criminal complaint, Chamberlain observed injuries to her son and witnessed Bennett punch, choke and drag the boy.
http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2012/07/anthony_bennett_man_charged_wi_1.html
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
so if mom hadn't brought up the abuse against Carnel, this POS would be free right now? and really, outside of her words there is no proof of the abuse-so will he walk free on Friday the 13th (ironic date huh?!). kind of scared they don't have enough evidence to charge him-then again, the second he steps onto "free land" i'm sure someone will be waiting for him-if i were him i'd rather be safe in jail...there's a lot of hate out there.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/it_will_be_a_long_time_before.html
MLive.com - MI 7/11/12
Carnel Chamberlain tragedy has 'forever changed' tribal community, Kevin Chamberlain says
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Bennett is scheduled to appear for a preliminary examination before U.S. District Magistrate Charles E. Binder in federal court in Bay City at 10 a.m. Friday.
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The tribal community will take another step toward normalcy Sunday during a memorial service for Carnel scheduled for 2 p.m. at the Soaring Eagle Casino Concert Hall.
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http://www.wnem.com/story/18998205/man-charged-with-abusing-camberlain-due-back-in-court
WNEM - Saginaw, MI -- 7/11/12
Man charged with abusing Carnel due back in court
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http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120712/NEWS01/120719912/bennett-indicted-on-assault-charge&pager=full_story
Bennett indicted on assault charge
A federal grand jury in Bay City has indicted Anthony Bennett on child abuse charges against Carnel Chamberlain.
A hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence for Bennett to stand trial on the charge was scheduled for Friday in Magistrate Judge Charles E. Binder’s Bay City courtroom.
That hearing is no longer needed because a grand jury indictment proves probable cause.
Bennett indicted on assault charge
A federal grand jury in Bay City has indicted Anthony Bennett on child abuse charges against Carnel Chamberlain.
A hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence for Bennett to stand trial on the charge was scheduled for Friday in Magistrate Judge Charles E. Binder’s Bay City courtroom.
That hearing is no longer needed because a grand jury indictment proves probable cause.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Why hasn't Jaimee been charged with Failure to Report Abuse?(Domanick's Law?)
I'm not really expecting an answer, it is a rhetorical question born out of my present cynical, hopeless view of Society.
I'm not really expecting an answer, it is a rhetorical question born out of my present cynical, hopeless view of Society.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
glazier, does the Indian Reservation acknowledge state law? The are governed by Federal Law. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
That's probably it Chickenbutt.
It's just frustrating that accountability and personal responsibility are becoming things of the past.
It's just frustrating that accountability and personal responsibility are becoming things of the past.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
glazier, I agree. In fact, I was just having that conversation with a 5 y/o yesterday. Try to find words little ones understand to explain that concept
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
glazier wrote:Why hasn't Jaimee been charged with Failure to Report Abuse?(Domanick's Law?)
I'm not really expecting an answer, it is a rhetorical question born out of my present cynical, hopeless view of Society.
Is the abuse and murder not under investigation still?
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http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/man-linked-to-dead-mich-boy-indicted/f5069f12d50f49798dd4a181175b5ede
Man linked to dead Mich. boy indicted on assault
Defense lawyer Anthony Chambers said the assault case is not strong because it seems to rest only on the statements of Jaimee Chamberlain.
"It is an uncorroborated allegation. There are no police reports, no proof that (Carnel) was even treated," Chambers said Thursday.
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sadly enough i have to agree with the defense, i hope autopsy/evidence collection gives us something!
Man linked to dead Mich. boy indicted on assault
Defense lawyer Anthony Chambers said the assault case is not strong because it seems to rest only on the statements of Jaimee Chamberlain.
"It is an uncorroborated allegation. There are no police reports, no proof that (Carnel) was even treated," Chambers said Thursday.
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sadly enough i have to agree with the defense, i hope autopsy/evidence collection gives us something!
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Honeysage wrote:http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/man-linked-to-dead-mich-boy-indicted/f5069f12d50f49798dd4a181175b5ede
Man linked to dead Mich. boy indicted on assault
Defense lawyer Anthony Chambers said the assault case is not strong because it seems to rest only on the statements of Jaimee Chamberlain.
"It is an uncorroborated allegation. There are no police reports, no proof that (Carnel) was even treated," Chambers said Thursday.
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sadly enough i have to agree with the defense, i hope autopsy/evidence collection gives us something!
I think that he was charged with assault and was also denied bond to keep him in custody until he can be charged with Carnel's murder.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Well Carnel certainly didn't set himself on fire?
Then again, I just remembered once saying:
"Certainly Caylee didn't wrap Herself in Duct-tape and jump in a garbage bag?"
Then again, I just remembered once saying:
"Certainly Caylee didn't wrap Herself in Duct-tape and jump in a garbage bag?"
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glazier wrote:Well Carnel certainly didn't set himself on fire?
Then again, I just remembered once saying:
"Certainly Caylee didn't wrap Herself in Duct-tape and jump in a garbage bag?"
No he did not.
Even though Carnel's mother filed the complaint against Bennett, there were two adults residing in the home at the time of the alleged abuse and death of Carnel.
I would imagine the FBI is exploring whether or not both adults were involved, while awaiting forensics.
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I read these accounts of crimes, and get so mad
when I see that one word in print.. or hear it spoken ..
ALLEGED
This case and so many others where it is so damn obvious
who the killer is. No way was this child killed, burned and
buried where he was found without Mr. A.B. KNOWING what
happened. He was the ONLY one there with Carnel. I know..
we have to say alleged until there is proof, but it still pizzzzez
me off to no end.
when I see that one word in print.. or hear it spoken ..
ALLEGED
This case and so many others where it is so damn obvious
who the killer is. No way was this child killed, burned and
buried where he was found without Mr. A.B. KNOWING what
happened. He was the ONLY one there with Carnel. I know..
we have to say alleged until there is proof, but it still pizzzzez
me off to no end.
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Marica wrote:I read these accounts of crimes, and get so mad
when I see that one word in print.. or hear it spoken ..
ALLEGED
This case and so many others where it is so damn obvious
who the killer is. No way was this child killed, burned and
buried where he was found without Mr. A.B. KNOWING what
happened. He was the ONLY one there with Carnel. I know..
we have to say alleged until there is proof, but it still pizzzzez
me off to no end.
I am upset about the authorities having to work backwards from a burnt body of a deceased child that may have been abused persistently but mostly without any witnesses to the events or subsequent wounds.
I wonder how much physical evidence they have to work with?
What will be revealed by Carnel's autopsy?
I'm assuming he is solely responsible and guilty of previous abuse, but I don't want a justice system that assumes or concludes guilt in advance of an investigation.
I would prefer the investigation take longer and produce more thorough results so that AB will be removed from Society for a long while if not permanently.
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Tamta... I know... really I do, and you are so right in all you have said. It is just so frustrating....
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http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120714/NEWS01/120719824/tribal-members-prepare-for-memorial-service-for-carnel-chamberlain
Tribal members prepare for memorial service for Carnel Chamberlain
Carnelian stones are said to be useful for overcoming abuse of any kind. They help in trusting yourself and your perceptions, and overcome negative conditioning. The stones are said to calm anger, banish emotional negativity and replace it with a love of life.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carnels-Hope-For-Tomorrow/459362990740569
ETA: i could not find any mention of whether Carnel was actually named for Carnelian
Tribal members prepare for memorial service for Carnel Chamberlain
Carnelian stones are said to be useful for overcoming abuse of any kind. They help in trusting yourself and your perceptions, and overcome negative conditioning. The stones are said to calm anger, banish emotional negativity and replace it with a love of life.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carnels-Hope-For-Tomorrow/459362990740569
ETA: i could not find any mention of whether Carnel was actually named for Carnelian
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Hundreds gather for Carnel Chamberlain public memorial service
Posted: 07/15/12 06:52 pm
By Randi Shaffer
Hundreds gathered inside the Soaring Eagle’s entertainment hall to listen to prayers, songs and stories about Carnel Chamberlain during Sunday afternoon’s memorial service.
The memorial service began with the Native American tribal traditions of smudging and a water blessing.
Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribal public relations director Frank Cloutier welcomed community members and offered his condolences to Carnel’s family.
“Today is about celebrating Carnel’s life,” he said. “This has gone national and it has touched hundreds of thousands of hearts.”
Carnel was born Jan. 16, 2008 and died June 21.
Read more:
http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120715/NEWS01/120719784/hundreds-gather-for-carnel-chamberlain-public-memorial-service
Posted: 07/15/12 06:52 pm
By Randi Shaffer
Hundreds gathered inside the Soaring Eagle’s entertainment hall to listen to prayers, songs and stories about Carnel Chamberlain during Sunday afternoon’s memorial service.
The memorial service began with the Native American tribal traditions of smudging and a water blessing.
Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribal public relations director Frank Cloutier welcomed community members and offered his condolences to Carnel’s family.
“Today is about celebrating Carnel’s life,” he said. “This has gone national and it has touched hundreds of thousands of hearts.”
Carnel was born Jan. 16, 2008 and died June 21.
Read more:
http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120715/NEWS01/120719784/hundreds-gather-for-carnel-chamberlain-public-memorial-service
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Every time I see Carnel's sweet face I feel such intense anger.
I'm sure I am not alone. I wonder what that creep
is doing while he sits in jail. Does he show any signs of remorse?
Anyone know what he has said to the detectives and FBI agents in
regard to what took place the day he murdered Carnel?
Has he attempted to implicate Carnel's mother?
Is he just sitting there eating bean dip and reading his celebrity
mail the way Caylee's killer did?
I'm sure I am not alone. I wonder what that creep
is doing while he sits in jail. Does he show any signs of remorse?
Anyone know what he has said to the detectives and FBI agents in
regard to what took place the day he murdered Carnel?
Has he attempted to implicate Carnel's mother?
Is he just sitting there eating bean dip and reading his celebrity
mail the way Caylee's killer did?
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http://www.wnem.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7506248
Hundreds at memorial for boy found burned....(July 15)
video only at link...MOM WAS NOT AT THE MEMORIAL??????? WTF??????!!!!! (discussion at 1:15 mark with cousin). OMG! yes i am yelling-absolutely disgusted with the egg donor. i will never speak of her as "mom" again!
Hundreds at memorial for boy found burned....(July 15)
video only at link...MOM WAS NOT AT THE MEMORIAL??????? WTF??????!!!!! (discussion at 1:15 mark with cousin). OMG! yes i am yelling-absolutely disgusted with the egg donor. i will never speak of her as "mom" again!
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981478840
Carnel Chamberlain Case: Where is his Mother?
The mother of Carnel Chamberlain was not present during a recent memorial service held in the slain child's honor, but why?
Carnel Chamberlain Case: Where is his Mother?
The mother of Carnel Chamberlain was not present during a recent memorial service held in the slain child's honor, but why?
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
From the Facts I've been able to read lead me to the conclusion that the egg donor only cares about HERSELF.
She will probably come up with some conveluted,self-serving excuse for not attending.
IMO, she is 'less than zero' ..a total waste.
She will probably come up with some conveluted,self-serving excuse for not attending.
IMO, she is 'less than zero' ..a total waste.
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Did the family spokesman say she was afraid of outbursts during the service? Maybe she was afraid the ppl would attack her for not taking better care of Carnel. I think she was scared for herself.
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Honeysage wrote:http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981478840
Carnel Chamberlain Case: Where is his Mother?
The mother of Carnel Chamberlain was not present during a recent memorial service held in the slain child's honor, but why?
As to the Service (not his funeral) ??
Maybe the Service was for the reservation to come together to honor their collective loss at the reclaiming of this boy's soul by the spirits?
When a child is taken so violently, especially by one of their own, everyone suffers the violence.
Maybe she had a breakdown?
That is about where I would be, even in my life situation.
Also, look at AB.
Look what he is accused of and thought to be responsible for.
Just because it is not in the press does not mean that he never hurt her or threatened her.
His people appear to be 100% behind him.
I can not dismiss the potential that someone is looking for her.
It takes one sadistic, vengeful, impulsive person 5 minutes to erase somebody.
If the FBI announces that she is gone or she does not show up for Carnel's funeral, then I will wonder about her.
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I'm not much on adding pictures but that one of him looks just like the one of Caylee... I mean WOW! I agree that the Mom is probably scared for herself and is dealing with guilt. Didn't they say before that he abused her too? Never having to personally deal with a situation like this myself I can't say for sure but she probably never thought it would get to this level that he'd kill the baby.
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I, too, feel more sympathy toward this mom at this point. Certainly, as details become clearer, that could change. Right now, I have to believe she is scared. I have to. I've been scared like that (sort of; not the brutality toward my kids, though), and I know what it's like to hide from your abuser. My youngest daughter was only physically abused by him once, and that was after I'd long since kicked him out. I know how it feels to be scared to go to church or work or take the kids to school, for fear he'll do something else, something worse. It must be a thousand times compounded for Carnel's mom, who SAW the man brutalize her son and likely had similar things done to her.Bmore wrote:I'm not much on adding pictures but that one of him looks just like the one of Caylee... I mean WOW! I agree that the Mom is probably scared for herself and is dealing with guilt. Didn't they say before that he abused her too? Never having to personally deal with a situation like this myself I can't say for sure but she probably never thought it would get to this level that he'd kill the baby.
I fault her - at this time - for allowing him to do those things to her son, but I also realize the psychological intricacies of an abusive, manipulative relationship. It's like nothing you'd ever believe if you'd never been there. There are no rational explanations for it, because it stems from irrational behavior inflicted upon the abused. Normal-minded people like us here at the RC cannot get it; heck, even the abused usually cannot understand it; that's one of the many reasons that they are able to be manipulated by it. While they're trying to figure out how to process rationally such irrational behavior, the abuse continues, the manipulation continues, the tug-of-war between loving and abusing continues, and the victim is left in a haze and can barely tell which way is up. This is what I believe has happened to Carnel's mother. The time to get away from him was when she first learned of his past behavior. You just cannot take such chances with your children.
Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
I have ZERO sympathy for her, none.
She wanted nothing to do with Carnel and then all of a sudden wanted him back from the Grandmother. She took actions which put her child in harms way and then, after witnessing him being SEVERELY abused before her own eyes did NOTHING to get him out of there.
She should have given him back to the Gramdma.
Why didn't she?
Either she didn't want to look like once again she couldn't handle the responsibilty...or simply a matter of $$$$ cause she would lose that Check.
One thing that really turned my stomach was when she insinuated the Abuse was Carnels fault for not listening to Anthony! (NancyGrace int)
Of course this is all my opinion and maybe more facts will come to light in the Trial.
She wanted nothing to do with Carnel and then all of a sudden wanted him back from the Grandmother. She took actions which put her child in harms way and then, after witnessing him being SEVERELY abused before her own eyes did NOTHING to get him out of there.
She should have given him back to the Gramdma.
Why didn't she?
Either she didn't want to look like once again she couldn't handle the responsibilty...or simply a matter of $$$$ cause she would lose that Check.
One thing that really turned my stomach was when she insinuated the Abuse was Carnels fault for not listening to Anthony! (NancyGrace int)
Of course this is all my opinion and maybe more facts will come to light in the Trial.
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interesting how ppl can and will blame the child.
I know a couple who will grab their child ( a little boy Carnel's age)
by his upper arm and jerk him, lifting his whole body.
I have attempted to speak to them about this and suggested this might
cause dislocation of his arm, or even a broken bone, and that such an injury
could bring CPS into their lives. These ppl insist they don't don't jerk the child,
but when they gently take him by the arm he kicks his feet from under himself,
and they only grip him to prevent him from falling and being hurt.
Apparently ppl who hurt their kids find it easy to blame the child.
I know a couple who will grab their child ( a little boy Carnel's age)
by his upper arm and jerk him, lifting his whole body.
I have attempted to speak to them about this and suggested this might
cause dislocation of his arm, or even a broken bone, and that such an injury
could bring CPS into their lives. These ppl insist they don't don't jerk the child,
but when they gently take him by the arm he kicks his feet from under himself,
and they only grip him to prevent him from falling and being hurt.
Apparently ppl who hurt their kids find it easy to blame the child.
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One time when I was in my early 20's I was in Walmart with my Mom for something... We were walking through the corridor in front of the registers and this piece of trash "Mom" grabbed her little boy by the upper arm/armpit and jacked him up and swung him yelling very loudly. Now I can't for the life of me imagine what a 5ish yo could of done that was so bad to deserve that but when we got next to her I said really loud something to the effect of "nothing like going to walmart to watch people abuse their kids" and glared at her. Even as we turned down another aisle I stared at her and she shut up and let him go... Just makes me wonder if you have balls enough to do that to you're kid in public what do you do at home?
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glazier wrote:I have ZERO sympathy for her, none.
She wanted nothing to do with Carnel and then all of a sudden wanted him back from the Grandmother. She took actions which put her child in harms way and then, after witnessing him being SEVERELY abused before her own eyes did NOTHING to get him out of there.
She should have given him back to the Gramdma.
Why didn't she?
Either she didn't want to look like once again she couldn't handle the responsibilty...or simply a matter of $$$$ cause she would lose that Check.
One thing that really turned my stomach was when she insinuated the Abuse was Carnels fault for not listening to Anthony! (NancyGrace int)
Of course this is all my opinion and maybe more facts will come to light in the Trial.
I 100% agree she should have given Carnel back to his grandma. That's absolutely correct! Regardless of my sympathy for her (assuming she was manipulated and abused, as well), she certainly should have had the sense to send him back to his grandmother, and I, too, wonder what she was thinking here. Perhaps she was in denial; perhaps she kept him because of the check; perhaps she was bullied into keeping him there because the man wanted the check. I hope it's not because she wanted the money, but I must concede that that is a real possibility, all things as they are now.
A psych report would do this woman some good, I think. Or, at least it will tell whether her behavior is a product of abuse or if she is just a selfish witch.
Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Bmore wrote:One time when I was in my early 20's I was in Walmart with my Mom for something... We were walking through the corridor in front of the registers and this piece of trash "Mom" grabbed her little boy by the upper arm/armpit and jacked him up and swung him yelling very loudly. Now I can't for the life of me imagine what a 5ish yo could of done that was so bad to deserve that but when we got next to her I said really loud something to the effect of "nothing like going to walmart to watch people abuse their kids" and glared at her. Even as we turned down another aisle I stared at her and she shut up and let him go... Just makes me wonder if you have balls enough to do that to you're kid in public what do you do at home?
My mother got screamed at in Wal-Mart when we were shopping one day and she told another mom, "You shouldn't curse and scream at your baby and hold your hand over their head like that. That's menacing, and it's child abuse." This woman had a child that couldn't have been more than 1 1/2 or 2 years old in her buggy - I assumed that, because my 16-month-old was in our buggy, and the two were similarly-sized. She hollered at my mom to mind her own business; that she couldn't tell her how to raise her own d*mned kids. So...Mama went to the police officer at the front of the store and gave him the woman's description and suggested that he keep his eye on this mom, and that she wouldn't be hard to find - she was the one with the terrified, screaming child in her buggy.
That was nearly 7 years ago. I hope that baby is loved and safe today.
Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
The least mommy could have done was asked grandma to care for
Carnel while she was working. She would still have had the check
and at least while she wasn't there to see, Carnel would have been
safe.
ETA
With grandma watching him part time she would have no doubt seen
any indications of abuse and probably would have tried to keep Carnel
in her care, & or reported her suspicions. Carnel would no doubt have
told grandma what was happening to him as well.
I suppose because she knew what was going on, you may have feared
grandma would regain custody if she saw signs of abuse and she may
have felt that she could control this man. I doubt she ever once thought
she or Carnel were in a life threatening situation.
Carnel while she was working. She would still have had the check
and at least while she wasn't there to see, Carnel would have been
safe.
ETA
With grandma watching him part time she would have no doubt seen
any indications of abuse and probably would have tried to keep Carnel
in her care, & or reported her suspicions. Carnel would no doubt have
told grandma what was happening to him as well.
I suppose because she knew what was going on, you may have feared
grandma would regain custody if she saw signs of abuse and she may
have felt that she could control this man. I doubt she ever once thought
she or Carnel were in a life threatening situation.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
We all know a big part of the problem is these many of these young Girls do not know HOW to think. By that I mean process information,weigh the CONSEQUENCES and come to a decision. It's like they can only see 15 minutes into the future and also have a blind spot when it comes to how Their actions/inactions affect OTHER PEOPLE.
I don't know what can be done or if anything can be done to solve this problem...but 1 thing I thought of is if a young Mother LOSES Custody and later gets it back, maybe some kind of probationary period should be in place? With say random unannounced visits, drug tests...I don't know.
I know its Hindsight but geeze! Someone should have seen this coming a mile away! It was so preventable.
Maybe I'm being to hard on Jaimee...if She started showing
more remorse or took more responsibility would change my opinion. She needs to OWN UP to this,imo.
I don't know what can be done or if anything can be done to solve this problem...but 1 thing I thought of is if a young Mother LOSES Custody and later gets it back, maybe some kind of probationary period should be in place? With say random unannounced visits, drug tests...I don't know.
I know its Hindsight but geeze! Someone should have seen this coming a mile away! It was so preventable.
Maybe I'm being to hard on Jaimee...if She started showing
more remorse or took more responsibility would change my opinion. She needs to OWN UP to this,imo.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Timeline: 1 month since Carnel Chamberlain was reported missing
Published: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 4:00 PM
By Erica Perdue | eperdue@mlive.com
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Here is a timeline of events since Carnel Chamberlain was reported missing:
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/timeline_1_month_since_carnel.html
Published: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 4:00 PM
By Erica Perdue | eperdue@mlive.com
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Here is a timeline of events since Carnel Chamberlain was reported missing:
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/timeline_1_month_since_carnel.html
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Gosh, what a beautiful kid!Alessandra_Deux wrote:Timeline: 1 month since Carnel Chamberlain was reported missing
Published: Sunday, July 22, 2012, 4:00 PM
By Erica Perdue | eperdue@mlive.com
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Here is a timeline of events since Carnel Chamberlain was reported missing:
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/timeline_1_month_since_carnel.html
Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Mother of Anthony Bennett, man charged with assault of Carnel Chamberlain, tells of son's troubled life
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/mother_of_anthony_bennett_man.html
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/mother_of_anthony_bennett_man.html
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Tamta wrote:Mother of Anthony Bennett, man charged with assault of Carnel Chamberlain, tells of son's troubled life
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/mother_of_anthony_bennett_man.html
She blames the system for her lack of parenting.
Obviously, she didn't offer her children a loving, nurturing environment in which to thrive.
As far as her claims that neither Jamie or Bennet searched for Carnel, I've heard this as well from other sources.
Speculation is that Jamie is in hiding, on drugs and is pregnant with Bennett's child.
Guess we will have to wait and see if this pans out.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Calypso wrote:Tamta wrote:Mother of Anthony Bennett, man charged with assault of Carnel Chamberlain, tells of son's troubled life
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/07/mother_of_anthony_bennett_man.html
She blames the system for her lack of parenting.
Obviously, she didn't offer her children a loving, nurturing environment in which to thrive.
As far as her claims that neither Jamie or Bennet searched for Carnel, I've heard this as well from other sources.
Speculation is that Jamie is in hiding, on drugs and is pregnant with Bennett's child.
Guess we will have to wait and see if this pans out.
Hopefully Bennet will receive a thorough psychological evaluation and be treated accordingly if what his mother alleges is true.
Clearly it is best that he is removed from society.
Who said that the mother of Carnel did not search for her son?
Do 'they' suggest that she did not care or knew what had happened?
What is the factual basis for that?
Unless Jaime was a sociopath or had a PD with a particular attention to pathological lying, I am not inclined to believe that she knew where her son was and still passed a LDT within the earliest days of the search.
I do not find it strange at all that she is out of the public eye, as Carnel's body has been recovered.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Mother: Anthony Bennett had troubled childhood
Defense lawyer Anthony Chambers says the assault case is not strong.
Bennett has a long criminal history, which dates back nearly a decade. He was on probation when Carnel went missing.
http://www.wnem.com/story/19109545/mother-anthony-bennett-had-troubled-childhood
Defense lawyer Anthony Chambers says the assault case is not strong.
Bennett has a long criminal history, which dates back nearly a decade. He was on probation when Carnel went missing.
http://www.wnem.com/story/19109545/mother-anthony-bennett-had-troubled-childhood
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Trial date set for Anthony Bennett, man charged with assault of 4-year-old Carnel Chamberlain
The trial for Anthony Michael Bennett, the man charged with assaulting 4-year-old Carnel Chamberlain, will be held Nov. 27 at 8:30 a.m. before U.S. District Court Judge Thomas L. Ludington in Bay City, court documents state.
Motions in the case are due by Oct. 26.
A final pretrial conference is scheduled before Judge Ludington on Nov. 13 at 2 p.m.
That date is also the deadline for Bennett to accept a plea deal in the case, according to court documents filed Wednesday.
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/08/trial_date_set_for_anthony_ben.html
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Bennett, 20, is charged with assault resulting in substantial bodily injury to a child under 16.
The trial for Anthony Michael Bennett, the man charged with assaulting 4-year-old Carnel Chamberlain, will be held Nov. 27 at 8:30 a.m. before U.S. District Court Judge Thomas L. Ludington in Bay City, court documents state.
Motions in the case are due by Oct. 26.
A final pretrial conference is scheduled before Judge Ludington on Nov. 13 at 2 p.m.
That date is also the deadline for Bennett to accept a plea deal in the case, according to court documents filed Wednesday.
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/08/trial_date_set_for_anthony_ben.html
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Bennett, 20, is charged with assault resulting in substantial bodily injury to a child under 16.
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
This is one of those situations where "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything".
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Carnel Chamberlain Death: Anthony Bennett charged with assaulting Mich. boy later found dead
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-Anthony Bennett, 20, was charged in a federal criminal complaint in Bay City, where he was expected to appear in court. He is not charged in the death of Carnel Chamberlain, but the complaint details the reported physical abuse of the child.
-According to the criminal complaint, Carnel's mother, Jaimee Chamberlain, told investigators that in late May or early June, she saw her son with a bruised and swollen face as well as a cut lip. She told authorities that her son said he was struck by Bennett.
Bennett lived in the house with the boy and the boy's mother.
-A few days later, she told authorities she saw Bennett pick up her son by the neck and drop him before dragging him into a room by his foot, according to the complaint.
-Bennett reportedly consulted with an attorney after Carnel was reported missing but no lawyer is on record in the case.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57463942-504083/carnel-chamberlain-death-anthony-bennett-charged-with-assaulting-mich-boy-later-found-dead/
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-Anthony Bennett, 20, was charged in a federal criminal complaint in Bay City, where he was expected to appear in court. He is not charged in the death of Carnel Chamberlain, but the complaint details the reported physical abuse of the child.
-According to the criminal complaint, Carnel's mother, Jaimee Chamberlain, told investigators that in late May or early June, she saw her son with a bruised and swollen face as well as a cut lip. She told authorities that her son said he was struck by Bennett.
Bennett lived in the house with the boy and the boy's mother.
-A few days later, she told authorities she saw Bennett pick up her son by the neck and drop him before dragging him into a room by his foot, according to the complaint.
-Bennett reportedly consulted with an attorney after Carnel was reported missing but no lawyer is on record in the case.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57463942-504083/carnel-chamberlain-death-anthony-bennett-charged-with-assaulting-mich-boy-later-found-dead/
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
Anthony Bennett Charged With Assaulting Carnel Chamberlain Before Boy Found Dead
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-A 20-year-old man was charged Friday with beating and dragging a 4-year-old just weeks before the child's body was found under the porch of his mother's home in mid-Michigan.
-Federal prosecutors, who handle major crimes on Indian reservations[more]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/30/anthony-bennett-beat-carnel-chamberlain-charges_n_1639763.html
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-A 20-year-old man was charged Friday with beating and dragging a 4-year-old just weeks before the child's body was found under the porch of his mother's home in mid-Michigan.
-Federal prosecutors, who handle major crimes on Indian reservations[more]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/30/anthony-bennett-beat-carnel-chamberlain-charges_n_1639763.html
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Re: Carnel Chamberlain -- Found Deceased 6/28/12
USA vs. Anthony Bennett
Criminal Complaint
http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/bennett-complaint.pdf
Criminal Complaint
http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/bennett-complaint.pdf
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