Rebecca Zahau Found Dead at Historic Mansion 7/13/11 #2

HOLY REALITY CHATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't walk away for one MINUTE! Hahaha..

Did Gore and the AG give Jonah over a year to put his 'affairs' in order (aka get rid of E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G) BEFORE THEY ARE GOING TO PUT THIS GUY IN THE SLAMMER?



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DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS?? ON 9-11??

Anne Bremner's facebook from Saturday?

The Zahau family and I will be on the Dr Phil Show Monday, September 11. The AG is still considering our request for an independent investigation. Thank you all so much for your support.

HinkySD wrote:DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS?? ON 9-11??

Anne Bremner's facebook from Saturday?

The Zahau family and I will be on the Dr Phil Show Monday, September 11. The AG is still considering our request for an independent investigation. Thank you all so much for your support.

Yes, and I think the reason she has the day/dates wrong,IMO, because that was how Dr. Phil told it to her....which I think was his sneaky way to get people to watch on both Mon/10th AND Tues/11.

I don't think the manner of death has to be changed. Homeowners' insurance policies usually have coverage for "accidents" that occur on the owner's property. Maybe Dina would be entitled to some proceeds from that? I'm surprised the insuance agency wouldn't want to see this infamous chandelier. I wonder if Jonah ever claimed on his policy due to this "accident", or let it DIE (so to speak). No claim = no investigation by pesky insurance adjusters.

I don't know what the law is regarding one parent's liability in such a case . Not sure the law would recognize a valid claim arising out of alleged negilgent parental supervision by a parent. But really have no idea (I bet Jonah, Esq., knows allll about it though).

Personally, I think Dina is after an out of court settlement.

As to any suit against Rebecca, Dina would have to open a probate case in Maricopa county, being that the prospective Estate has not been probated and there is no open probate case. To date, I don't see where Dina has opened a probate case on the Estate of Rebecca Zahau.

At this point I really doubt Jonah would settle out of court. He must be tired of the stark, raving mad second x wife attempting to suck him dry. She does have her divorce settlement. They're divorced, have been for years, I'm sure he's paid her more than he imagined he would have to. He has absolutely no ties to her anymore.

I can't imagine she would even have any grounds for a civil case.

She needs to look within, accept personal responsibility, and heal. Then move on.

That's what I think.

vegret wrote:At this point I really doubt Jonah would settle out of court. He must be tired of the stark, raving mad second x wife attempting to suck him dry. She does have her divorce settlement. They're divorced, have been for years, I'm sure he's paid her more than he imagined he would have to. He has absolutely no ties to her anymore.

I can't imagine she would even have any grounds for a civil case.

She needs to look within, accept personal responsibility, and heal. Then move on.

That's what I think.

I'm not trying to be facetious with this question... what is it that Dina has to accept personal responsibility for? What is she looking within for in relation to Max's tragic death?

How much child support was Jonah paying?
Bet the loss of that income is the biggest
think motivating Dina.

Marica wrote:How much child support was Jonah paying?
Bet the loss of that income is the biggest
think motivating Dina.

I think the biggest thing motivating Dina is...

DINA!!!

Me me me me me.

Tamta wrote:

Marica wrote:How much child support was Jonah paying?
Bet the loss of that income is the biggest
think motivating Dina.

I think the biggest thing motivating Dina is...

DINA!!!

Me me me me me.

It doesn't really matter how much Jonah was paying in child support.......for Dina, it will never have been enough!

junie4justice wrote:

HinkySD wrote:DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS?? ON 9-11??

Anne Bremner's facebook from Saturday?

The Zahau family and I will be on the Dr Phil Show Monday, September 11. The AG is still considering our request for an independent investigation. Thank you all so much for your support.

Yes, and I think the reason she has the day/dates wrong,IMO, because that was how Dr. Phil told it to her....which I think was his sneaky way to get people to watch on both Mon/10th AND Tues/11.

UPDATE - from AB Facebook

Anne Bremner

We are taping Monday. More to follow.

13 hours ago ·

https://www.facebook.com/AnneMBremner

GlaringError wrote:

vegret wrote:At this point I really doubt Jonah would settle out of court. He must be tired of the stark, raving mad second x wife attempting to suck him dry. She does have her divorce settlement. They're divorced, have been for years, I'm sure he's paid her more than he imagined he would have to. He has absolutely no ties to her anymore.

I can't imagine she would even have any grounds for a civil case.

She needs to look within, accept personal responsibility, and heal. Then move on.

That's what I think.

I'm not trying to be facetious with this question... what is it that Dina has to accept personal responsibility for? What is she looking within for in relation to Max's tragic death?

I'm sorry I didn't explain better. My statement wasn't pertaining to her son's tragic accident.

JMO. I think in order for Dina to move on, she needs to find some semblance of peace. In order for that to happen, I think she should look at why/how her marriage to Jonah Shacknai devolved. To look inside herself. That's where the personal responsibilty comes in.

It seems she has been 'stuck' in anger and blame, regarding her and Jonah's marriage disintegrating. It has affected her life, IMO, in a negative manner.

Add Rebecca (or any other woman) who by all accounts, enjoyed a relationship with Dina and Jonah's son, and it's a perfect storm. I'm sensing Dina has much displaced anger, even before her son's tragic accident.

I'm hoping you better understand my post.

In my question about support...
I was trying to say now that she is cut off from that
income it is cramping her life style.
I realize she is wealthy, but as we know, many wealthy people want more. The payments Jonah made were no doubt in her mind a kind of punishment.
Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years.

Lash wrote:

junie4justice wrote:

Yes, and I think the reason she has the day/dates wrong,IMO, because that was how Dr. Phil told it to her....which I think was his sneaky way to get people to watch on both Mon/10th AND Tues/11.

UPDATE - from AB Facebook

Anne Bremner

We are taping Monday. More to follow.

13 hours ago ·

https://www.facebook.com/AnneMBremner

Thanks Lash. I didn't think about the taping of it the day before.

Marica wrote:In my question about support...
I was trying to say now that she is cut off from that
income it is cramping her life style.
I realize she is wealthy, but as we know, many wealthy people want more. The payments Jonah made were no doubt in her mind a kind of punishment.
Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years.

I don't think Dina is wealthy. I don't think she came from wealth. I think Jonah provided her with a lifestyle she enjoyed, then became accustomed to it. As I understand it, she was also provided her housing as part of the divorce settlement as long as her and Jonah's son was under 18. I could be mistaken. Also, if I'm not mistaken, she has/had no source of employment. However, she most likely enjoys a very hefty settlement from the divorce (if she hasn't blown through that already) considering Gloria Alldred was her lawyer.

I'm curious how/who the monies (believe it was $32,000.00 or thereabouts) were paid to the landlord who was stiffed by Dina while she rented his house in Cali.

"Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years."

I agree.

Inparadise wrote:

Tamta wrote:

I think the biggest thing motivating Dina is...

DINA!!!

Me me me me me.

It doesn't really matter how much Jonah was paying in child support.......for Dina, it will never have been enough!

Jonah could hand over his 2 billion dollars with the stipulation she stay away and out of his life forever, and I believe she would still be dogging him. Hence, my post upthread regarding a out of civil court settlement with her, although I do believe she is after one. I don't believe he'll cave.

vegret wrote:

Marica wrote:In my question about support...
I was trying to say now that she is cut off from that
income it is cramping her life style.
I realize she is wealthy, but as we know, many wealthy people want more. The payments Jonah made were no doubt in her mind a kind of punishment.
Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years.

I don't think Dina is wealthy. I don't think she came from wealth. I think Jonah provided her with a lifestyle she enjoyed, then became accustomed to it. As I understand it, she was also provided her housing as part of the divorce settlement as long as her and Jonah's son was under 18. I could be mistaken. Also, if I'm not mistaken, she has/had no source of employment. However, she most likely enjoys a very hefty settlement from the divorce (if she hasn't blown through that already) considering Gloria Alldred was her lawyer.

I'm curious how/who the monies (believe it was $32,000.00 or thereabouts) were paid to the landlord who was stiffed by Dina while she rented his house in Cali.

"Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years."

I agree.

Well, the child support payments are long over.
IF there was a home DS could live in and to be maintained while MS was a minor, that is over.

As for alimony: They were married for such a short period of time I am sure there is not much to be gained at this point. Most alimony is not forever especially when she is capable of working and the marriage was so short.

I assumed wealth .. BAD ME!!!
SO maybe the loss of the support was her what
she depended upon for her life style. I wonder if
she is the kind of person who grieves more over
the loss of income than the loss of her child, or if
her continued chase after Jonah's money is in her
eyes a punishment for Maxie's death?

Freckles wrote:

vegret wrote:

I don't think Dina is wealthy. I don't think she came from wealth. I think Jonah provided her with a lifestyle she enjoyed, then became accustomed to it. As I understand it, she was also provided her housing as part of the divorce settlement as long as her and Jonah's son was under 18. I could be mistaken. Also, if I'm not mistaken, she has/had no source of employment. However, she most likely enjoys a very hefty settlement from the divorce (if she hasn't blown through that already) considering Gloria Alldred was her lawyer.

I'm curious how/who the monies (believe it was $32,000.00 or thereabouts) were paid to the landlord who was stiffed by Dina while she rented his house in Cali.

"Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years."

I agree.

Well, the child support payments are long over.
IF there was a home DS could live in and to be maintained while MS was a minor, that is over.

As for alimony: They were married for such a short period of time I am sure there is not much to be gained at this point. Most alimony is not forever especially when she is capable of working and the marriage was so short.

I don't think she inhabits the Coronado one anymore. The one in Paradise Valley, Arizona.......I believe she still lives there.

DoJ Doc Reveals Cellphone Providers' Long, Long Memories


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http://www.technewsworld.com/story/73400.html?wlc=1346893441

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Gore....Bonnie....?

It kind of looks like AT&T might save information a long time....

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vegret wrote:

Marica wrote:In my question about support...
I was trying to say now that she is cut off from that
income it is cramping her life style.
I realize she is wealthy, but as we know, many wealthy people want more. The payments Jonah made were no doubt in her mind a kind of punishment.
Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years.

I don't think Dina is wealthy. I don't think she came from wealth. I think Jonah provided her with a lifestyle she enjoyed, then became accustomed to it. As I understand it, she was also provided her housing as part of the divorce settlement as long as her and Jonah's son was under 18. I could be mistaken. Also, if I'm not mistaken, she has/had no source of employment. However, she most likely enjoys a very hefty settlement from the divorce (if she hasn't blown through that already) considering Gloria Alldred was her lawyer.

I'm curious how/who the monies (believe it was $32,000.00 or thereabouts) were paid to the landlord who was stiffed by Dina while she rented his house in Cali.

"Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years."

I agree.

How much could Dina Shacknai realistically expect to make if she were to find a full time job as a clinical psychologist, using her degree?

http://psydprograms.net/salary/

Graduates of PsyD programs who become practicing clinical psychologists can expect to make a starting salary of $39k to $59k a year with no experience. With little as 1 year of experience, PsyD graduates can expect to make $45k to $70k year. Career psychologists that have been working for at least 20 years should make at least $66k to $100k a year.

Just fyi-- that is a fairly low salary for any health care professional with a doctorate. Many nursing advanced practice professionals make more than 2-3 times that much, right out of school. Frankly, I don't know how someone would pay off doctoral program loans on that salary-- but then, I'm sure Dina has no school loans for Argosy, lol! I expect Jonah easily paid for Dina's Argosy costs.

We can safely estimate that she could expect to make less than $100K/ year. Dina clearly (IMO) has not been living a $45k- $70k a year lifestyle since before she married Jonah. Particularly, if she was looking at summer homes that rent for $16k a month. (She was in medical sales before they married, according to the Boy, Interrupted article.)

Additionally, she would have to obtain her license. AZ records indicate she still has not yet achieved licensure. (Under either Shacknai or Romano.)

http://www.psychboard.az.gov/PsySearch.asp?txtSearch=S&licenseTypeId=1

She likely had a ginormous alimony settlement from Gloria Allred's advocacy, but there is certainly the possibility that she has run thru all that. And of course, as mentioned above, child support and access to homes owned by Jonah has likely ceased. I'm sure she has some nest egg put away, but I agree that she is after Jonah in a wrongful death suit. Statute of limitations is one year from date of death. I think we will see what she is planning before next summer. I definitely think she is going to attempt to extract more $$ from Jonah.

She is not about to go back to supporting herself and living a $45 to 70k/ year lifestyle now, lol, imo!

KZ wrote:

vegret wrote:

I don't think Dina is wealthy. I don't think she came from wealth. I think Jonah provided her with a lifestyle she enjoyed, then became accustomed to it. As I understand it, she was also provided her housing as part of the divorce settlement as long as her and Jonah's son was under 18. I could be mistaken. Also, if I'm not mistaken, she has/had no source of employment. However, she most likely enjoys a very hefty settlement from the divorce (if she hasn't blown through that already) considering Gloria Alldred was her lawyer.

I'm curious how/who the monies (believe it was $32,000.00 or thereabouts) were paid to the landlord who was stiffed by Dina while she rented his house in Cali.

"Now he no longer has to pay.
She had counted on having her hand in his wallet for many more years."

I agree.

How much could Dina Shacknai realistically expect to make if she were to find a full time job as a clinical psychologist, using her degree?

http://psydprograms.net/salary/

Graduates of PsyD programs who become practicing clinical psychologists can expect to make a starting salary of $39k to $59k a year with no experience. With little as 1 year of experience, PsyD graduates can expect to make $45k to $70k year. Career psychologists that have been working for at least 20 years should make at least $66k to $100k a year.

Just fyi-- that is a fairly low salary for any health care professional with a doctorate. Many nursing advanced practice professionals make more than 2-3 times that much, right out of school. Frankly, I don't know how someone would pay off doctoral program loans on that salary-- but then, I'm sure Dina has no school loans for Argosy, lol! I expect Jonah easily paid for Dina's Argosy costs.

We can safely estimate that she could expect to make less than $100K/ year. Dina clearly (IMO) has not been living a $45k- $70k a year lifestyle since before she married Jonah. Particularly, if she was looking at summer homes that rent for $16k a month. (She was in medical sales before they married, according to the Boy, Interrupted article.)

Additionally, she would have to obtain her license. AZ records indicate she still has not yet achieved licensure. (Under either Shacknai or Romano.)

http://www.psychboard.az.gov/PsySearch.asp?txtSearch=S&licenseTypeId=1

She likely had a ginormous alimony settlement from Gloria Allred's advocacy, but there is certainly the possibility that she has run thru all that. And of course, as mentioned above, child support and access to homes owned by Jonah has likely ceased. I'm sure she has some nest egg put away, but I agree that she is after Jonah in a wrongful death suit. Statute of limitations is one year from date of death. I think we will see what she is planning before next summer. I definitely think she is going to attempt to extract more $$ from Jonah.

She is not about to go back to supporting herself and living a $45 to 70k/ year lifestyle now, lol, imo!

I bet she spends 70k in a couple of months as "normal" living.
Hasn't it already been 1 year since Max died?

Tamta HA! I always thought Gore's line about not being able to retrieve JS trigger call from Rebecca's phone was BS. I always thought once something was put out there in cyberspace it's always and forever there. Perhaps that's the reason her phone was never returned? And computer?

Marcia I bet if Dina was provided for the rest of her life she'd STILL dog Jonah. I don't think what she's doing has anything to do with her son's accident. It has to do with Jonah leaving her and being involved with another woman.

I wonder what the criteria is for a civil suit. Afterall, Max's manner of death is an accident. If she sues using wrongful death, and wins, the money she gets will only last so long. Then what? What will she do then?

vegret wrote:Tamta HA! I always thought Gore's line about not being able to retrieve JS trigger call from Rebecca's phone was BS. I always thought once something was put out there in cyberspace it's always and forever there. Perhaps that's the reason her phone was never returned? And computer?

Marcia I bet if Dina was provided for the rest of her life she'd STILL dog Jonah. I don't think what she's doing has anything to do with her son's accident. It has to do with Jonah leaving her and being involved with another woman.

I wonder what the criteria is for a civil suit. Afterall, Max's manner of death is an accident. If she sues using wrongful death, and wins, the money she gets will only last so long. Then what? What will she do then?

Try and find another guy with a big wallet......my husband's ex has been looking for someone for years on Match.com......with no luck I might add. Guys with money want young, beautiful women, not old hags.

vegret wrote:Tamta HA! I always thought Gore's line about not being able to retrieve JS trigger call from Rebecca's phone was BS. I always thought once something was put out there in cyberspace it's always and forever there. Perhaps that's the reason her phone was never returned? And computer?

Marcia I bet if Dina was provided for the rest of her life she'd STILL dog Jonah. I don't think what she's doing has anything to do with her son's accident. It has to do with Jonah leaving her and being involved with another woman.

I wonder what the criteria is for a civil suit. Afterall, Max's manner of death is an accident. If she sues using wrongful death, and wins, the money she gets will only last so long. Then what? What will she do then?

That's why Rebecca's 'team' will not be seeing her devices unless something moves in this case.

Inparadise wrote:

vegret wrote:Tamta HA! I always thought Gore's line about not being able to retrieve JS trigger call from Rebecca's phone was BS. I always thought once something was put out there in cyberspace it's always and forever there. Perhaps that's the reason her phone was never returned? And computer?

Marcia I bet if Dina was provided for the rest of her life she'd STILL dog Jonah. I don't think what she's doing has anything to do with her son's accident. It has to do with Jonah leaving her and being involved with another woman.

I wonder what the criteria is for a civil suit. Afterall, Max's manner of death is an accident. If she sues using wrongful death, and wins, the money she gets will only last so long. Then what? What will she do then?

Try and find another guy with a big wallet......my husband's ex has been looking for someone for years on Match.com......with no luck I might add. Guys with money want young, beautiful women, not old hags.

LOl!

Tamta wrote:DoJ Doc Reveals Cellphone Providers' Long, Long Memories


It's a window into what information would be available from any given company to law enforcement agencies looking to track suspects or confirm alibis using phone records, tracking devices, Web-browsing habits or past text messages.


http://www.technewsworld.com/story/73400.html?wlc=1346893441

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Gore....Bonnie....?

It kind of looks like AT&T might save information a long time....

Thank you Tamta!

Rebecca had an AT&T cell phone. Maybe this is one of many reasons SDSO has not returned Rebecca's phone to her family? Remember according to SDSO their detective knew from experience how long a message would be stored on a server. BUT, even with their experience they waited too long and the message was gone. I thought Sheriff Gore stated his 15 investigators were thorough? Doesn't sound thorough to me, Gore. AND...the DOJ was assisting in Rebecca's investigation. Surely the California DOJ was familiar with this technology.

Snip from above link - There are no set standards on which information gets saved or for how long, so wireless companies' policies on the matter vary widely. For instance, Verizon keeps a list of who a customer has shared text messages with for the shortest time -- one year. The period is 18 months for Sprint, five years for T-Mobile, and seven years for AT&T.

Inparadise wrote:

vegret wrote:Tamta HA! I always thought Gore's line about not being able to retrieve JS trigger call from Rebecca's phone was BS. I always thought once something was put out there in cyberspace it's always and forever there. Perhaps that's the reason her phone was never returned? And computer?

Marcia I bet if Dina was provided for the rest of her life she'd STILL dog Jonah. I don't think what she's doing has anything to do with her son's accident. It has to do with Jonah leaving her and being involved with another woman.

I wonder what the criteria is for a civil suit. Afterall, Max's manner of death is an accident. If she sues using wrongful death, and wins, the money she gets will only last so long. Then what? What will she do then?

Try and find another guy with a big wallet......my husband's ex has been looking for someone for years on Match.com......with no luck I might add. Guys with money want young, beautiful women, not old hags.

Bwaawahahaha

Lash wrote:

Tamta wrote:DoJ Doc Reveals Cellphone Providers' Long, Long Memories


It's a window into what information would be available from any given company to law enforcement agencies looking to track suspects or confirm alibis using phone records, tracking devices, Web-browsing habits or past text messages.


http://www.technewsworld.com/story/73400.html?wlc=1346893441

--------------

Gore....Bonnie....?

It kind of looks like AT&T might save information a long time....

Thank you Tamta!

Rebecca had an AT&T cell phone. Maybe this is one of many reasons SDSO has not returned Rebecca's phone to her family? Remember according to SDSO their detective knew from experience how long a message would be stored on a server. BUT, even with their experience they waited too long and the message was gone. I thought Sheriff Gore stated his 15 investigators were thorough? Doesn't sound thorough to me, Gore. AND...the DOJ was assisting in Rebecca's investigation. Surely the California DOJ was familiar with this technology.

Snip from above link - There are no set standards on which information gets saved or for how long, so wireless companies' policies on the matter vary widely. For instance, Verizon keeps a list of who a customer has shared text messages with for the shortest time -- one year. The period is 18 months for Sprint, five years for T-Mobile, and seven years for AT&T.

Yeah?

Duh.

These people are way too arrogant!

Can't wait to hear the reason why her devices have been scrubbed by the time AB gets them!

Tamta wrote:

vegret wrote:Tamta HA! I always thought Gore's line about not being able to retrieve JS trigger call from Rebecca's phone was BS. I always thought once something was put out there in cyberspace it's always and forever there. Perhaps that's the reason her phone was never returned? And computer?

Marcia I bet if Dina was provided for the rest of her life she'd STILL dog Jonah. I don't think what she's doing has anything to do with her son's accident. It has to do with Jonah leaving her and being involved with another woman.

I wonder what the criteria is for a civil suit. Afterall, Max's manner of death is an accident. If she sues using wrongful death, and wins, the money she gets will only last so long. Then what? What will she do then?

That's why Rebecca's 'team' will not be seeing her devices unless something moves in this case.

Exactly. Blatantly a cover up. It's sooooo pathetic. How long has the AG had Rebecca's file now?

Gore and company should be held for obstruction of justice!

vegret wrote:

Tamta wrote:

That's why Rebecca's 'team' will not be seeing her devices unless something moves in this case.

Exactly. Blatantly a cover up. It's sooooo pathetic. How long has the AG had Rebecca's file now?

Long enough for everyone to buy new underwear and go liquid!
Lol.

vegret wrote:

Freckles wrote:
Well, the child support payments are long over.
IF there was a home DS could live in and to be maintained while MS was a minor, that is over.

As for alimony: They were married for such a short period of time I am sure there is not much to be gained at this point. Most alimony is not forever especially when she is capable of working and the marriage was so short.

I don't think she inhabits the Coronado one anymore. The one in Paradise Valley, Arizona.......I believe she still lives there.

From http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/spreckels-mansion-owner-described-go-getter/?page=2#article

"Shacknai then married Dina Romano, a child psychologist, and had a son. The family lived in a $1.2 million mansion in Paradise Valley, a wealthy enclave between Scottsdale and Phoenix.

The union went sour, and Shacknai and Romano divorced in 2008. Dina kept the mansion, but little else is known about the separation because their divorce file is sealed."

I don't know if this is true, it also says Dina is a child psychologist which we all know is a lie. lol

Jonah and Dina were building a much more lavish home on Mummy Mountain, but Jonah moved out of the house on East Caballo Drive on Christmas Eve while Dina was out of town with Max......their divorce wasn't final until late 2010 or early 2011.

junie4justice wrote:

KZ wrote:

How much could Dina Shacknai realistically expect to make if she were to find a full time job as a clinical psychologist, using her degree?

http://psydprograms.net/salary/



Just fyi-- that is a fairly low salary for any health care professional with a doctorate. Many nursing advanced practice professionals make more than 2-3 times that much, right out of school. Frankly, I don't know how someone would pay off doctoral program loans on that salary-- but then, I'm sure Dina has no school loans for Argosy, lol! I expect Jonah easily paid for Dina's Argosy costs.

We can safely estimate that she could expect to make less than $100K/ year. Dina clearly (IMO) has not been living a $45k- $70k a year lifestyle since before she married Jonah. Particularly, if she was looking at summer homes that rent for $16k a month. (She was in medical sales before they married, according to the Boy, Interrupted article.)

Additionally, she would have to obtain her license. AZ records indicate she still has not yet achieved licensure. (Under either Shacknai or Romano.)

http://www.psychboard.az.gov/PsySearch.asp?txtSearch=S&licenseTypeId=1

She likely had a ginormous alimony settlement from Gloria Allred's advocacy, but there is certainly the possibility that she has run thru all that. And of course, as mentioned above, child support and access to homes owned by Jonah has likely ceased. I'm sure she has some nest egg put away, but I agree that she is after Jonah in a wrongful death suit. Statute of limitations is one year from date of death. I think we will see what she is planning before next summer. I definitely think she is going to attempt to extract more $$ from Jonah.

She is not about to go back to supporting herself and living a $45 to 70k/ year lifestyle now, lol, imo!

I bet she spends 70k in a couple of months as "normal" living.
Hasn't it already been 1 year since Max died?

My typo. SOL is 2 years for wrongful death in California. That will bring us to July 2013.

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/statute-limitations/california-statute-limitations.html

Of course, she could file anytime, as her supporters often mention. But with Max's death ruled an accident related to a fall (child's play gone wrong), I think it would be a much harder sell to a jury than if the death was ruled undetermined or a homicide. That's why I think it is Dina's mission to villainize Rebecca in the media as much as possible. She wants the manner of death reclassified to a homicide ruling so she can "get" Jonah financially in a civil suit, IMO. That's why the release of her paid reports blatantly naming Rebecca (very unprofessional on the part of Melinek, IMO) coincided so nicely with the roll out of her nonprofit. The memorial nonprofit based on her completely unfounded and unsupported concept that Max was unsafe in his home with Jonah and Rebecca. (While imploring the public to ignore her own history with Jonah of domestic violence.) All of that spin and misinformation campaign is building toward her civil wrongful death $uit. $$$$$, IMO.

Inparadise wrote:Jonah and Dina were building a much more lavish home on Mummy Mountain, but Jonah moved out of the house on East Caballo Drive on Christmas Eve while Dina was out of town with Max......their divorce wasn't final until late 2010 or early 2011.

Ouch.

Tamta wrote:

Inparadise wrote:Jonah and Dina were building a much more lavish home on Mummy Mountain, but Jonah moved out of the house on East Caballo Drive on Christmas Eve while Dina was out of town with Max......their divorce wasn't final until late 2010 or early 2011.

Ouch.

That was his "parting shot" to her........she wants revenge!

Inparadise wrote:

Tamta wrote:

Ouch.

That was his "parting shot" to her........she wants revenge!

Looks that way....

Wonder if he texted her on the way out the driveway telling her he just moved out!

Tamta wrote:

Inparadise wrote:

That was his "parting shot" to her........she wants revenge!

Looks that way....

Wonder if he texted her on the way out the driveway telling her he just moved out!

Or possibly a "I escaped! Left while you were gone so you couldn't throw yourself in front of my vehicle, get all black and blue, call LE, lie and say I beat the crap outta ya." text.

vegret wrote:

Tamta wrote:

Looks that way....

Wonder if he texted her on the way out the driveway telling her he just moved out!

Or possibly a "I escaped! Left while you were gone so you couldn't throw yourself in front of my vehicle, get all black and blue, call LE, lie and say I beat the crap outta ya." text.

It's clear to me that Dina blamed Recca (or some other woman) for her marraige ending.......she was behaving like a desperate woman. She refuses to look within herself, or at Jonah for why things didn't work out.......it had nothing to do with "other women".

Inparadise wrote:

vegret wrote:

Or possibly a "I escaped! Left while you were gone so you couldn't throw yourself in front of my vehicle, get all black and blue, call LE, lie and say I beat the crap outta ya." text.

It's clear to me that Dina blamed Recca (or some other woman) for her marraige ending.......she was behaving like a desperate woman. She refuses to look within herself, or at Jonah for why things didn't work out.......it had nothing to do with "other women".

I agree.

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Inparadise wrote:

vegret wrote:

Or possibly a "I escaped! Left while you were gone so you couldn't throw yourself in front of my vehicle, get all black and blue, call LE, lie and say I beat the crap outta ya." text.

It's clear to me that Dina blamed Recca (or some other woman) for her marraige ending.......she was behaving like a desperate woman. She refuses to look within herself, or at Jonah for why things didn't work out.......it had nothing to do with "other women".

Oh my gosh.

Or 'I just saved you an elbow in the chest', merry Christmas'.

It's my understanding that the telephone and text information is recoverable; but that the "voice" message isn't.

The "voice" part is what is only kept a short time and that female detective said she knew it was too late to recover the "voice" message.

She was in charge of the phones.
Gore made decision that there was a suicide based on "hearsay" of what the voice message said.
No one ever heard the voice message.
No one can prove anything was "ever said" in a voice message.

Actually, when I give it some thought, besides attempting to retain any sanity he had left...he really performed a good deed by leaving. He did Nina a favor!

Puzzler wrote:It's my understanding that the telephone and text information is recoverable; but that the "voice" message isn't.

The "voice" part is what is only kept a short time and that female detective said she knew it was too late to recover the "voice" message.

She was in charge of the phones.
Gore made decision that there was a suicide based on "hearsay" of what the voice message said.
No one ever heard the voice message.
No one can prove anything was "ever said" in a voice message.

It is probably doubtful voice data could be fully recovered but if a voicemail existed at that time, if it was listened to and from what number it came may be...???

vegret wrote:Actually, when I give it some thought, besides attempting to retain any sanity he had left...he really performed a good deed by leaving. He did Nina a favor!

You mean Dina, correct?

Oh God yes. Dina.

By default, Nina also. LOL

[quote="Puzzler"]It's my understanding that the telephone and text information is recoverable; but that the "voice" message isn't.

The "voice" part is what is only kept a short time and that female detective said she knew it was too late to recover the "voice" message.

She was in charge of the phones.
Gore made decision that there was a suicide based on "hearsay" of what the voice message said.
No one ever heard the voice message.
No one can prove anything was "ever said" in a voice mail.[quote]



http://www.cbs8.com/story/19024331/coronado

Rudoy told News 8 that the San Diego County Sheriff still has not returned some of Zahau's personal belongs to the family, like her camera, computer or cell phone. He said the Sheriff did make the cell phone available for an independent forensic inspection by an expert hired by the family. That forensic report still is not complete, Rudoy said.

Ok, Kamala Harris...

http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-05-05/news/a-lack-of-conviction/




On a mild Southern California afternoon last month, San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris stood on the steps of Los Angeles City Hall and quietly beamed while the mayor of California's largest city announced his endorsement of her candidacy for attorney general. Speaking at a lectern adorned with a blue campaign poster, Antonio Villaraigosa praised what he said were Harris' many qualifications to be the state's top law-enforcement official.

First on the list: a substantial upswing in San Francisco's felony conviction rate since she took office in 2004. "Kamala has spent her entire professional life in the trenches as a courtroom prosecutor," he said. "And she has raised conviction rates in her community to the highest in 15 years."

It was one in a string of high-profile endorsements of the Harris campaign. A week later, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced her support. Despite a storm of negative publicity over problems at the narcotics division of San Francisco's crime lab — where technician Deborah Madden has been accused of skimming cocaine samples, forcing prosecutors to drop hundreds of drug cases — polls indicate that Harris currently enjoys double-digit leads over her most competitive Democratic opponents in the June primary.

Villaraigosa's prominent mention of Harris' prosecutorial vigor was no accident. As a San Francisco politician seeking to enhance her statewide appeal, Harris has made her 71 percent success rate in obtaining felony convictions — a marked increase over the 52 percent rate that her predecessor, famously left-wing Terence Hallinan, logged during his final year in office — a key selling point.

But there's a problem with Harris' central campaign claim. Records obtained by SF Weekly reveal that the performance of prosecutors in the San Francisco District Attorney's office is less impressive than suggested by her much-trumpeted conviction statistics.

The records show that while Harris' overall conviction rate has reached new highs over the past several years, that success is based almost entirely on plea deals negotiated before defendants accused of serious crimes proceed to trial. (Such pleas form the bulk of any D.A.'s convictions.) By contrast, felony convictions for cases that actually go to trial and reach a jury verdict — a comparatively small group that nevertheless includes some of a district attorney's most violent and emotionally charged cases — have declined significantly over the past two years.

In 2009, San Francisco prosecutors won a lower percentage of their felony jury trials than their counterparts at district attorneys' offices covering the 10 largest cities in California, according to data on case outcomes compiled by officials at the San Francisco Superior Court as well as by other county courts and prosecutors. (Officials in Sacramento, the state's seventh-largest city, did not provide data.) Harris' at-trial felony conviction rate that year was 76 percent, down 12 points from the previous year.

In the first quarter of 2010, things got worse. During that time, Harris' office secured guilty verdicts in just 53 percent of its felony trials — a remarkable figure, revealing that defendants accused of serious crimes who took their case to trial had an even one-in-two shot at winning an acquittal. By contrast, the most recent recorded statewide average was 83 percent, according to statistics from the California Judicial Council.

The general decline in felony trial convictions has included more failures in murder cases specifically, according to records released by the D.A.'s office in response to a request from SF Weekly. From January 2009 through the end of last month, according to the records, Harris has obtained murder or voluntary manslaughter convictions for just 11 out of 20 homicide defendants at trial, with the rest acquitted or convicted on lesser charges.

Jim Hammer, former head of the homicide division in the San Francisco D.A.'s office and a member of the city's Police Commission, said the criminal justice system eventually starts to break down if defendants and their attorneys don't perceive tough odds before a jury, and thus have no incentive to agree to plea deals that spare time, conserve resources, and secure convictions in cases that otherwise might be hard to prove in court. In this sense, he said, trial performance is a vital measure of any D.A.'s office.

"Part of the effectiveness of a D.A. in a case is a real fear on behalf of the defense bar that the defense will lose," said Hammer, who worked under Hallinan and is rumored to be planning a run for district attorney in 2011. "If the D.A. is batting .500, it really destroys the effectiveness of the D.A., and it suggests some very deep problem in the office."

Harris declined repeated requests for an interview through her spokesman, Brian Buckelew. Asked about the recent spate of unsuccessful cases, Buckelew said the past year and a half is an insufficient amount of time to look at when asserting trends in the office's performance, and that trials represent a small slice — only 2 to 3 percent — of the thousands of felony cases handled annually. The failed trial prosecutions, he said, were "cases we believed in, and still believe in, but sometimes they don't work out the way we had hoped. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have been brought to trial in the first place."

Ok Kamala Harris....

Judge rips Harris' office for hiding problems
Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer

Published 4:00 a.m., Friday, May 21, 2010


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Judge-rips-Harris-office-for-hiding-problems-3263797.php#ixzz25pB6Cllb

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Judge-rips-Harris-office-for-hiding-problems-3263797.php