NEWTOWN CONN. SCHOOL SHOOTING

Lash shared:

As soon as the news of the tragedy broke last week, celebrities took to Twitter to voice their opinions and stars such as Jamie Foxx and Bruce Jenner spoke out against the violence in interviews.

Important/Relevant Gun Laws
ILLINOIS
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RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS
Permit to Purchase FOID Required*
Registration of Firearms No**
Licensing of Owners FOID Required*
Permit to Carry FOID Required*

HANDGUNS
Permit to Purchase FOID Required*
Registration of Firearms No**
Licensing of Owners FOID Required*
Permit to Carry No***

* Subject to municipal control. Handguns have been banned in some municipalities.
** Chicago requires registration of all firearms.
*** Carrying a concealed weapon is prohibited entirely. A FOID is required to transport a handgun. See "CARRYING".

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/illinois.aspx

Opinion: The Deadliest Global City | Thursday, Aug 2, 2012

Chicago likes to compare itself to other world cities, so Ward Room thought it would find out how we rank in violence.

It turns out no one can top us.

Among what are considered Alpha world cities, Chicago has the highest murder rate -- higher even than the Third World metropolises of Mexico City and Sao Paolo.

Here’s how we rank in murders per 100,000 among cities we consider our peers, based on a projected murder total of 505 for this year.

Singapore 0.4
Tokyo 0.5
Hong Kong 0.6
Berlin 1.0
Sydney 1.0
London 1.4
Toronto 1.7
Amsterdam 1.8
Paris 4.4
New York 6.0
Los Angeles 7.5
Mexico City 8.0
Moscow 9.6
Sao Paulo 15.6
Chicago 19.4

We could be doing worse: Caracas, Venezuela has a murder rate of 130 per 100,000. But its undeniable that the Windy City is under seige.

Gun lovers are gleeful about Chicago’s deadly summer. They see it as a rebuke not just to gun control, but to the policies of Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel.

But Chicago’s murder rate is not proof that gun control doesn’t work. It’s proof that, in a country with one gun per citizen, local gun laws are meaningless.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-Deadliest-Global-City-163874546.html

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Alessandra_Deux wrote:Nouel Alba Arrested By FBI: Bronx Woman Accused Of Newtown Shooting Scam, Posing As Victim's Relative (VIDEO)

12/27/12 05:48 PM ET EST

HARTFORD, Conn. — A New York City woman tried to scam donors by posing as the aunt of a child killed in the Connecticut elementary school massacre, federal authorities said Thursday.

Nouel Alba, 37, was arrested Thursday and accused of using her Facebook account, telephone calls and text messages to seek donations for what she called a "funeral fund." She told one donor that she had to enter the scene of the mass shooting in Newtown to identify her nephew, according to the criminal complaint.

Alba is charged with lying to FBI agents who were investigating charity scams related to the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, where a gunman killed 20 children and six adults on Dec. 14.

Read more:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/27/nouel-alba-arrested-bronx-woman-newtown-shooting_n_2371685.html

art tart wrote:

Lash shared:

As soon as the news of the tragedy broke last week, celebrities took to Twitter to voice their opinions and stars such as Jamie Foxx and Bruce Jenner spoke out against the violence in interviews.

I find it ironic Jamie Foxx is starring in one of the most violent movies ever produced critics have claimed in recently released,"django unchained," a Quentin Tarintino movie. The movie was postponed much to Tarintono's dismay the weekend of the Sandy murders, of course Tarintino also wrote and produced "Pulp Fiction," another violent movie based on 2 hired killers. While Sharpton and Jesse Jackson continue to rant about racism, the word NIGGE? was used in "django unchained" over 168 times in the movie.

Many in Hollywood make their millions from violence in movies and Beyonce who also took to twitter, might address some of the violent rap music glorifying guns and violence that made her husband Jay Z a millionaire.

Violence: violent movies, violent rap music glorifying guns, violent video games such as "kindgergarden killers" too play a factor in our society. There are many causes that provoke the unstable in our society, they can steal a gun, they too are criminals. As pyschologist have said, "there is no predicting who will murder, until it happens."

Obama's girls attend a private school as does Gregory's from Meet the Press, the school has 12 armed security guards and are hiring more. This of course doesn't include the secret service men that are assigned to Obama's children at all times, the 12 armed security guards protect ALL the children that attend the private school.

Julie wrote:This was so hard/sad to read. Noah was the youngest child killed. He was shot 11 times. His left hand was mangled, part of his face was gone.

Noah Pozner's Family Remembers and Mourns

http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah-pozners-family-remembers-and-mourns/?p=all

Julie wrote:I guess I'm just not as forgiving as Noah's Mom. Senselessly, cold-bloodedly, massacring 20 little children and their teachers, in a school, is just plain evil to me.

Meanwhile, I think this is a little overboard, to say the least:


Claim seeks $100 million for child survivor of Connecticut school shooting

By Mary Ellen Godin | Reuters – 12 hrs ago.

Pinsky's claim said that the state Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner had failed to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm."

Read more:
http://news.yahoo.com/claim-seeks-100-million-child-survivor-connecticut-school-003646074.html

imo, isn't the fact that your child survived enough?

I bet the parents who lost their children would be willing to pay $100 million (if that were even possible) to have their children back.

art tart wrote:

Julie wrote:I guess I'm just not as forgiving as Noah's Mom. Senselessly, cold-bloodedly, massacring 20 little children and their teachers, in a school, is just plain evil to me.

Meanwhile, I think this is a little overboard, to say the least:


Claim seeks $100 million for child survivor of Connecticut school shooting

By Mary Ellen Godin | Reuters – 12 hrs ago.

Pinsky's claim said that the state Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner had failed to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm."

Read more:
http://news.yahoo.com/claim-seeks-100-million-child-survivor-connecticut-school-003646074.html

imo, isn't the fact that your child survived enough?

I bet the parents who lost their children would be willing to pay $100 million (if that were even possible) to have their children back.

Julie- the thing is, most Civil Suits are taken on a Contingency. That means, the parent's don't pay a dime UNLESS there is a monetary award to them, then their attorney takes 30 to 40% and ALL of his expenses so the parent's really don't have anything to lose.

imo, this case is a frivolous suit. I agree 100%. How could the school have protected their child that lived any better, the Principal & Psychologist gave their lives to try to save their child. Exactly! MOST schools in America have absolutely NO PROTECTION in such a case as this and imo, are probably not going to be any safer in the foreseeable future, that, imo, is why this case is frivilous. I don't see that anything could have changed the situation at SH but a security guard with a gun to shoot Adam. Unfortunately, he would have been the first victim, probably from a distance. MANY of the parent's at SH don't want guns on the campus. I'm not crazy about that either. It would be just a matter of time before somehow something goes wrong with that plan. But on the other hand, I would want my kids schools to have counter protection. The few schools I have read about that do have armed security guards and pay off duty policeman are private schools NOT public schools and the free education this child receives. If I were that concerned for my child, I would simply homeschool the child Sadly my homeschooling abilities would only take them so far. Plus kids need that social interaction with their peers.and take responsibility for the child's safety, it is unfair to blame the entire district,Agree. but that's what parents do when they sue, they sue everyone hoping anyone will offer a settlement just to make them go away. Yep. imo.

I agree, what a slap in the face to the parent's that have buried their children, their lives forever changed, and the surviving siblings of those buried probably asking so many questions that grieving parent's can't answer. I guess if my child had survived the murderous attack, I'd still be on my knees thanking God my child survived and praying for the families that lost their children. Me too. Appalling imo.

OMG! pictures of this nutjob attorney,you said it! ambulance chasing caught in pictures. imo, he must be trying to get a class action suit ONLY IF he gets permission to sue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254564/First-lawsuit-filed-Sandy-Hook-massacre-family-traumatized-child-survivor-seeks-100-million.html

Freckles wrote:I have no opinion on the lawsuit.
First, it is a financially upper class community so the dollar amount is meaningless, IMO.
At the same time, this child, as many other children, will require indepth counseling. For years. But so will the parents. Older sibs. Grandparents, etc.

Sadly, I expect to see many of these "close" neighbors move. Try to find a new home in another location where they might find security and sanity. To stay in the community and have to daily deal with a comment dredging up this horrible day may prove too difficult for many.

I don't have the answers. I don't know if I would stay or go.
I do know every member of my family would be deep into counseling ASAP!

Freckles wrote:I don't think it was for the dollar amount.
From the very last of the article:
" He said he filed the notice in order to 'freeze' the evidence before insurance adjusters can 'shape' it.

'This way the state of Connecticut will get the notice and they will have the attorney general's office and their investigators see what happened and why the school was not protected,' he said."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254564/First-lawsuit-filed-Sandy-Hook-massacre-family-traumatized-child-survivor-seeks-100-million.html

Appears to me he is doing this to make sure the truth DOES come out. Maybe we will finally hear about the man in camo found in the woods--- the one the LE (ATF? PD?) released and provided NO info on WHY a man in camo would be lurking in the woods about a school? IF this is the reason, Good For Him! Let us get to the very core of what happened!!!

Julie wrote:Too many "theories" out there, jmo. Too many theories will fog the truth as it is eventually released.

Freckles, I don't know about the worker. But who is the guy at the 5 minute point? I heard he didn't have a fb.

art tart wrote:I read an interesting comment by a retired male teacher that had a suggestion that I thought was reasonable and easily accomplished while the arguments drag on forever about better ways to secure schools from the mentally ill, evil, or even a deranged parent.

The teacher suggested that ALL public schools in the US have steel proof doors to every classroom in which a bullet couldn't penetrate, besides the teacher being able to lock their door in a case of emergency, ALL of the classrooms could be locked from the office automatically. As Adam enterered the front of the school killing the Principal and the Psychologist, someone in the office could have hit the Security bolts automatically had ALL the classrooms had this installed.

I have worked in many schools in which "LOCKDOWN" is said over the intercom. The teacher has to run to the door and lock it, some intercoms are old and you can hardly hear the voice over the intercom, imo, this is one thing that could be done immediately to protect the children inside hopefully until LE arrives.

Freckles wrote:

art tart wrote:I read an interesting comment by a retired male teacher that had a suggestion that I thought was reasonable and easily accomplished while the arguments drag on forever about better ways to secure schools from the mentally ill, evil, or even a deranged parent.

The teacher suggested that ALL public schools in the US have steel proof doors to every classroom in which a bullet couldn't penetrate, besides the teacher being able to lock their door in a case of emergency, ALL of the classrooms could be locked from the office automatically. As Adam enterered the front of the school killing the Principal and the Psychologist, someone in the office could have hit the Security bolts automatically had ALL the classrooms had this installed.

I have worked in many schools in which "LOCKDOWN" is said over the intercom. The teacher has to run to the door and lock it, some intercoms are old and you can hardly hear the voice over the intercom, imo, this is one thing that could be done immediately to protect the children inside hopefully until LE arrives.

I like this idea! It would also work well in case of a fire.
Admittedly, there may be a person left in a hall but it is a lot better than what is currently used.

Julie wrote:Backlash prompts Newtown survivor's attorney to pull lawsuit, for now

By CNN Staff

updated 5:46 PM EST, Tue January 1, 2013

(CNN) -- Outcry over a request for permission to sue the state of Connecticut for millions of dollars in the aftermath of the Newtown shooting prompted a New Haven attorney to at least temporarily withdraw his client's petition, the attorney said Tuesday.

"I was getting hundreds of (Facebook) comments" about the potential lawsuit. "So I figured I'd take (the request) off the table for now," said Irving Pinsky, who represents the parents of a 6-year-old survivor of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook elementary school.

Read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/01/justice/connecticut-sandy-hook-lawsuit/

Lash wrote:Hypocrisy at its best -

Newspaper That Printed Gun Owner Names Hires Armed Guards

1/2/13, 6:29 PM EST

The New York newspaper that printed a map with all of the names of residents who have handgun permits has hired armed security to patrol its headquarters.

The Journal News, which covers Rockland, Westchester, and Putnam Counties in New York, faced a backlash from readers after publishing the names of residents who had handgun permits registered to their names. The newspaper created an interactive map which showed permit owners' names and addresses, which they posted on Dec. 23, 2011, as part of their coverage of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.

More @ link - http://abcnews.go.com/news/t/blogEntry?id=18114640

justanopinion wrote:

Lash wrote:Hypocrisy at its best -

Newspaper That Printed Gun Owner Names Hires Armed Guards

1/2/13, 6:29 PM EST

The New York newspaper that printed a map with all of the names of residents who have handgun permits has hired armed security to patrol its headquarters.

The Journal News, which covers Rockland, Westchester, and Putnam Counties in New York, faced a backlash from readers after publishing the names of residents who had handgun permits registered to their names. The newspaper created an interactive map which showed permit owners' names and addresses, which they posted on Dec. 23, 2011, as part of their coverage of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.

More @ link - http://abcnews.go.com/news/t/blogEntry?id=18114640

Hypocrisy maybe... but idiocy seems more likely! Yes please let everyone know there they can acquire handguns...