Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #22

Alessandra_Deux wrote:

18thcenturylady wrote:


Just supposing Jodi is on death row. Does the above still apply? Are we now taking our heinous murderers to the mall for new specks???
Seems to me those Goodwill bins where people can donate eyeglasses for the needy would be good enough for a convicted murderess. A pair of those should do. WHY must taxpayers pay for this field trip and eye exam? Wouldn't a prison doc be able to handle this? I haven't heard of others on death row being able to go out to an eye doctor.


Not feeling sorry for myself but this really burns my butt and this is why. the TAXPAYERS are paying for all this stuff for felons. My husband at present teaches special needs kids full time for a little over $300. a week while trying to find a better job back in his field. The damn school gives him insurance but none for me. We can't even afford heat let alone insurance for me. I desperately need new glasses, but that's not going to happen...
I don't even have a car---a young lady totaled my 13 yr. old van a few days before Christmas on the SAME day the engine went in hubby's 13 yr. old car. Insurance would of course not pay for the car, and we got a small amount for the totaled old van. All we could do was buy a tiny old used car for hubby to get to work. I live in the country with no way to get anywhere.

Hubby recently had a kidney stone and was sick to the point of ending up on an IV in the emergency room for the evening.
IF I get sick, I'm screwed. It's over. I can't go to get care. There is simply no way to pay for it. All I have is my little home and I can't risk losing the roof over my head in addition to everything else that's happened.

I don't what is the procedure for death row inmates. I will look into it.

olivier57 wrote:Hi, Can someone tell me why they didn't add that "she was a battered woman, a survivor" or that "she was madly in love" in the mitigation list ? At least, it would have been coherent with what they tried to make us believe and that she is still saying in her interview. This could have rang a bell in some jurors mind. This would have more sense to be linked to the crime.

So I can't understand. Are they stupid ? Could it be a trick to say that she didn't get appropriate counsels ?

sassy5d wrote:TA family have crappy holidays but here's my unsupportive, abusive and neglectful family, we smile for the camera, this is how my Stabby family will spend our holidays.

Oy, how did this not shout to me when I listened..

Oh, also love how the DT who wanted so badly to keep the personality disorder out of criminal cuz dem was wet behind the ears,.. Now want to shout u can't kill her, she has a mental illness.

Bmore wrote:she is.... KN said we won't hear about the murder but who JA is and what made her that way or some bs like that... a novella about Cruella

18thcenturylady wrote:WARNING, HUGE RANT~

18thcenturylady wrote:


Just supposing Jodi is on death row. Does the above still apply? Are we now taking our heinous murderers to the mall for new specks???
Seems to me those Goodwill bins where people can donate eyeglasses for the needy would be good enough for a convicted murderess. A pair of those should do. WHY must taxpayers pay for this field trip and eye exam? Wouldn't a prison doc be able to handle this? I haven't heard of others on death row being able to go out to an eye doctor.


Not feeling sorry for myself but this really burns my butt and this is why. the TAXPAYERS are paying for all this stuff for felons. My husband at present teaches special needs kids full time for a little over $300. a week while trying to find a better job back in his field. The damn school gives him insurance but none for me. We can't even afford heat let alone insurance for me. I desperately need new glasses, but that's not going to happen...
I don't even have a car---a young lady totaled my 13 yr. old van a few days before Christmas on the SAME day the engine went in hubby's 13 yr. old car. Insurance would of course not pay for the car, and we got a small amount for the totaled old van. All we could do was buy a tiny old used car for hubby to get to work. I live in the country with no way to get anywhere.

Hubby recently had a kidney stone and was sick to the point of ending up on an IV in the emergency room for the evening.
IF I get sick, I'm screwed. It's over. I can't go to get care. There is simply no way to pay for it. All I have is my little home and I can't risk losing the roof over my head in addition to everything else that's happened.



PS...

...I just have a huge problem with the perks I see given to convicted felons, and with Jodi's insulting, 'I'm so wonderful and valuable', me, me, me, 19 minute long self-aggrandizing speech!

I was the widow of a suicide with nothing when I moved alone from Illinois to New Hampshire over 15 years ago. I bought a dump of an old house and lived here alone for many years teaching myself to do all the work it needed and restore it.
I was trying to put what had happened behind me and rebuild my whole life. No one supported me. I was alone. I worked 7 days a week having a small antique business at my home and doing any other odd jobs I could.
I spent years and years rehabbing an 18thc. house in my town that nobody gave two shits for, and saving it, wanting to leave something behind that was greater than myself---Something beautiful in the world, with a story to tell.

I find Jodi's litany of her "accomplishments" and her idea that she deserves "another chance at freedom someday" to be sickening and horrifying. This woman is so worthless!

Here we have a convicted murderess who is given medical care if she is sick, and along with other prisoners, TOO many 'niceties' that they do NOT deserve, IMO, and all at the expense of taxpayers who in their own lives struggle to put food on the table and send their children to school.

I know so many of you fine peeps out there have had just as much adversity as I have and worse. You are all lovely, contributing members of society, and deserve much credit and much happiness.
I am sick of a system that allows Jodi to bask in the limelight if only for a time, by giving her national TV coverage. I am sick of a system that puts burdens on the taxpayers to give murderers like Jodi their so-called 'rights' and only serves to reinforce their sense of entitlement!

Bmore wrote:but she's not mentally ill, she's defective... think of it as she won't get sent back to the manufacturer because she's broken, she'll still be sold at the store but from the scratch and dent section... lol

renatae wrote:

Bmore wrote:she is.... KN said we won't hear about the murder but who JA is and what made her that way or some bs like that... a novella about Cruella

LOL, and didn't she? Whatsizname (I forgot who) on HLN said of 19 minutes, she spent 13 talking about herself, 1 1/2 minutes trashing Travis, and I forgot what the balance was. I heard a lot of the same stuff she said during the interview after the conviction.

carlakay wrote:

olivier57 wrote:Hi, Can someone tell me why they didn't add that "she was a battered woman, a survivor" or that "she was madly in love" in the mitigation list ? At least, it would have been coherent with what they tried to make us believe and that she is still saying in her interview. This could have rang a bell in some jurors mind. This would have more sense to be linked to the crime.

So I can't understand. Are they stupid ? Could it be a trick to say that she didn't get appropriate counsels ?

I can't answer why..doubt anyone can..I have witnessed my share of trials and this was a whole different ballgame than any other but considering the reaction everyone seem to have about the t shirt I do not believe listing battered woman woulda done her much good and I dont think being madly in love would of either.

Tho she is blaming her defense team for the majority of crap we saw spewed make no doubt SHE was in total control so I do believe it was HER way during the mitagation phase too.

Junebug wrote:18th:

I fully agree with all you said about the inmates treatment etc... But wanted to address your worries about the verdict. Along with all of you I have been thinking about his over-night. After all the dust settled two things stood out to me. The first thing was when she mentioned being in general population, and all the "wonderful" things she could do there/contrast with Travis's lack of future. The other was what I feel was a veiled threat she laid on the family; when she stated if she got life, she would go quietly and they wouldn't have to see her anymore (which to me meant if given the DP she will drag them into court over and over.) However, if she gets life, she will fight tooth and nail to get out thus dragging them to court anyway. I think the jury even though making a tough decision, will see what is the only option.

18thcenturylady wrote:

Junebug wrote:18th:

I fully agree with all you said about the inmates treatment etc... But wanted to address your worries about the verdict. Along with all of you I have been thinking about his over-night. After all the dust settled two things stood out to me. The first thing was when she mentioned being in general population, and all the "wonderful" things she could do there/contrast with Travis's lack of future. The other was what I feel was a veiled threat she laid on the family; when she stated if she got life, she would go quietly and they wouldn't have to see her anymore (which to me meant if given the DP she will drag them into court over and over.) However, if she gets life, she will fight tooth and nail to get out thus dragging them to court anyway. I think the jury even though making a tough decision, will see what is the only option.

Wonderful analysis, Junebug! Thanks! I can see it so clearly, and hope the jury does to.
I am betting we'll have a verdict this afternoon sometime...What do you think?

justanopinion wrote:

18thcenturylady wrote:WARNING, HUGE RANT~

18thcenturylady wrote:


Just supposing Jodi is on death row. Does the above still apply? Are we now taking our heinous murderers to the mall for new specks???
Seems to me those Goodwill bins where people can donate eyeglasses for the needy would be good enough for a convicted murderess. A pair of those should do. WHY must taxpayers pay for this field trip and eye exam? Wouldn't a prison doc be able to handle this? I haven't heard of others on death row being able to go out to an eye doctor.


Not feeling sorry for myself but this really burns my butt and this is why. the TAXPAYERS are paying for all this stuff for felons. My husband at present teaches special needs kids full time for a little over $300. a week while trying to find a better job back in his field. The damn school gives him insurance but none for me. We can't even afford heat let alone insurance for me. I desperately need new glasses, but that's not going to happen...
I don't even have a car---a young lady totaled my 13 yr. old van a few days before Christmas on the SAME day the engine went in hubby's 13 yr. old car. Insurance would of course not pay for the car, and we got a small amount for the totaled old van. All we could do was buy a tiny old used car for hubby to get to work. I live in the country with no way to get anywhere.

Hubby recently had a kidney stone and was sick to the point of ending up on an IV in the emergency room for the evening.
IF I get sick, I'm screwed. It's over. I can't go to get care. There is simply no way to pay for it. All I have is my little home and I can't risk losing the roof over my head in addition to everything else that's happened.



PS...

...I just have a huge problem with the perks I see given to convicted felons, and with Jodi's insulting, 'I'm so wonderful and valuable', me, me, me, 19 minute long self-aggrandizing speech!

I was the widow of a suicide with nothing when I moved alone from Illinois to New Hampshire over 15 years ago. I bought a dump of an old house and lived here alone for many years teaching myself to do all the work it needed and restore it.
I was trying to put what had happened behind me and rebuild my whole life. No one supported me. I was alone. I worked 7 days a week having a small antique business at my home and doing any other odd jobs I could.
I spent years and years rehabbing an 18thc. house in my town that nobody gave two shits for, and saving it, wanting to leave something behind that was greater than myself---Something beautiful in the world, with a story to tell.

I find Jodi's litany of her "accomplishments" and her idea that she deserves "another chance at freedom someday" to be sickening and horrifying. This woman is so worthless!

Here we have a convicted murderess who is given medical care if she is sick, and along with other prisoners, TOO many 'niceties' that they do NOT deserve, IMO, and all at the expense of taxpayers who in their own lives struggle to put food on the table and send their children to school.

I know so many of you fine peeps out there have had just as much adversity as I have and worse. You are all lovely, contributing members of society, and deserve much credit and much happiness.
I am sick of a system that allows Jodi to bask in the limelight if only for a time, by giving her national TV coverage. I am sick of a system that puts burdens on the taxpayers to give murderers like Jodi their so-called 'rights' and only serves to reinforce their sense of entitlement!

18th I can understand how you feel. It makes me sick to think that the POS will get all of the things that we struggle to get for ourselves... my last pair of glasses was 14 years ago.. just can't afford to get them. I have had to ask friends in the past to borrow money for milk for my children.. seemed like I was always robbing Peter to Pay Paul just trying to make ends meet. And then to think that someone can do what she has done gets a free ride to go get her eyes checked and glasses makes my blood boil. I really hope that once she is told what her prescription is that there is a reasonable cap on how much the state will pay... because I think I will lose my ever loving mind if I find out she gets Gucci's. Her little Diva interviews are almost more than I can stomach. I really hope that life can turn around for you 18th, decent people should not have to struggle the way you have.

Junebug wrote:I am thinking this order about the eye doctor, is just the judge not wanting any issues for appeal. Once the good sheriff has her all to himself, things will be very different for the troll under the bridge.

Bo wrote:If i was a juror...I'd pass a note saying " When you all get your Sh*t together for sure...let us know ...otherwise we'll be at the bar , poolside.....LOL

carlakay wrote:

Bmore wrote:Mari I think that's were I'm going... Andrea....

me too read up on it this weekend..lol..God I need help

18thcenturylady wrote:Uh, oh...Jury just read an instruction in court. Jodi and all attorneys present. Supposedly had to do with something Juan said about what "life in prison" meant. SEEMS like jury may be leaning toward life and not the DP...
DT arguing that what Juan said about Jodi possibly being able to get paroled if given life was improper and could be an "appeal issue"----NOT GOOD...

I think there probably will be a verdict today, but now I think they will give her life. Damn.

18thcenturylady wrote:Jury was not deliberating until now.

You know how when a judge sentences the prisoner they sometimes really let them have it and tell them what they think of them? I am really worried now, and I hope that if this jury does the dumb thing and gives her life, that this judge sentences her to LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE, AND THAT SHE TELLS JODI IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS WHAT A LYING MURDERESS SHE IS AND THAT SHE WILL SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE IN PRISON BECAUSE SHE COMMITTED A VICIOUS MURDER AND HAS NO REMORSE.

Bmore wrote:i'm not getting anything... what happened?

nemo1970 wrote:

18thcenturylady wrote:Oh gee, she can keep growing her hair long and donate it to locks of love! OY! She is unreal! Yeah, that's improving yourself you sick bitch...

I seriously doubt it - I had hair way down to my back- donated it to locks of love in 2006 - I still have long hair - but not to point I donate again- they need minimum of 18 inches- braided. and she says she donated twice since 2008.

Moosiesmama wrote:Did Juan mess up when he mentioned yesterday about what life in prison meant? . The TH's last night said that this is a big no-no. Having sick feeling right now. If they just started deliberating today, what the heck were they doing yesterday?