Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #24

A Dogg ♥ ‏@AnneWyattanne7 51s51 seconds ago

Anyone remember when a sin was a sin & not a psychological disorder????

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

18th:
The Hughes DID testify during the main trial.
I put a link to the vid. There are more over there.

It was a dark period of time for the Freemans.
Same day as JA was arrested, their brother took his own life, IIRC.
Having them testify was cruel....

Trial Talk Live ‏@TrialTalkLive 48s48 seconds ago

We will be live at 2:15est to talk #JodiArias at http://TrialTalkLive.Com

I don't know what is going on today. Is Fonseca still on the stand? Does anyone know about when Juan will cross examine her?

Not sure. Currently, they are out to lunch.
I am trying to catch up on the twitters....

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Freckles wrote:Chris Hughes on stand from main trial:

Duh, Yes I remember now, but why is the DT manipulating the facts to say that Hughes were pro Jodi and thought Travis was treating her badly when that was only before they noticed Jodi was not what she portrayed and caught her in lies and odd behavior? I mean, why isn't Chris coming back for the pros. to clear up the deliberate misconceptions of the defense????

nalya ‏@highlybless3 3m3 minutes ago

It looks like this witness is going to be on the stand way into next week #jodiarias

"......On the day she was arrested a friend called to "rub" it in, but the news came an hour after his brother committed suicide and Freeman was consumed by a different tragedy.

"At that point, it really didn't matter," said Freeman.

Freeman visited Arias several times in jail, but the visits soon stopped. He just needed to move on.

"People would tell me to go see her when I was in town. I would think about it, but then never went," said Freeman.

In 2010 Freeman was told he could be called to testify for either the prosecution or the defense and not to watch news reports.

He didn't watch the news and his friends held back telling him things.

"My grandmother has watched the entire trial and hasn't told me a thing," said Freeman.

So Freeman had never heard Arias' third and final claim that she killed in self-defense. He only knew the intruder story.

Arias' attorneys called him to testify with only two choices, come on his own free will or be subpoenaed.

"I was just there to tell the truth and whoever called me would've got the same answers" said Freeman.

When Freeman took the stand he said Arias didn't look like the Jodi he knew.

"Whey started the questioning that's when I realized they were trying to paint Travis as the bad guy. Sitting on the stand, I kind of smiled because I knew that wouldn't work. He was a good guy - there wasn't anything bad in anything I ever saw," recalled Freeman.

Freeman remembers looking over to Arias wondering what was she thinking, but only got a blank stare in return.

He also recalls looking over at Prosecutor Juan Martinez chuckling with Detective Estaban Flores. He said he knew Martinez was about to make him a witness for the prosecution and he welcomed it.

"At least it crossed my mind and whether or not it crossed his I don't know. But what crossed my mind was he realized I was just telling the truth and that I wasn't for the defense and that most of what I said he could actually use," Freeman told ABC15

Arias' final story that Alexander physically, emotionally and sexually abused her was too much for Freeman.

"To me, I see someone who was a good man being dragged through the mud. We all have our weaknesses; we all have the things in our lives that we struggle with that are vices and it's not often that we have all our vices and dirty laundry dragged out for the whole world to see."

In court, Freeman told jurors Arias and Alexander fought, but nothing out of the ordinary from a typical couple.

He said Alexander wanted to move on, but Arias just kept coming around and Alexander had trouble saying "no" to her.

"When you're living a lifestyle that conflicts with your belief's to the degree with what Travis was doing, to me, that was why he said he couldn't marry her. He told me that before he said 'I love her, I care about her, but I can't marry her.'"

And as for Arias' latest claims in court, Freeman shakes his head.

"I don't believe her story. He (Travis) was murdered." ......"

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-daniel-freeman-friend-of-arias-and-alexander-speaks-out

18thcenturylady wrote:

Freckles wrote:Chris Hughes on stand from main trial:

Duh, Yes I remember now, but why is the DT manipulating the facts to say that Hughes were pro Jodi and thought Travis was treating her badly when that was only before they noticed Jodi was not what she portrayed and caught her in lies and odd behavior? I mean, why isn't Chris coming back for the pros. to clear up the deliberate misconceptions of the defense????

Dunno. Nurmi is trying the entire case all over again when this should ONLY be the mitigation portion of the sentencing.... That is it!IMO, it is coming out disjointed and jumbled. He is not doing his client a favor when he puts up the sexual stuff and leads the talk that way. Real turn off. More info than wheat a jury would want or need at this point... Nurmi will pick out portions of the main trial tapes from the records and try to get specific parts in... without Juan being able to cross. Now we have the Freemans. They had a bro who took his life the day JA was arrested. The brother had written a letter stating he was having confusing sexual thots esp about children. It is believed JA took those words/ideas and incorporated them into her accusations re Travis...

Gold report: look for his wonderful comments along right side of link.

BTW, JA was slapped by her dad because she had taken the car with out permission! That is when she left home....She claims abuse.

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 2m2 minutes ago

#JodiArias we're watching taped testimony from first trial witness Desiree Freeman friend of Travis and Jodi

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 2m2 minutes ago

Video's over. Fonseca is still on the stand and has been though the whole thing. #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago

Nurmi: Did Dan & Desiree have a window into the inside of the relationship between #JodiArias and #TravisAlexander? Fonseca: Yes #abc15
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Nicole Goodman Esq ‏@msesquirette 1m1 minute ago

#JodiArias Nurmi is trying to get all JM like. Juan is objecting to nearly every question and comment
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 2m2 minutes ago

Video over. Desiree and her brother had a window into #TravisAlexander and #JodiArias relationship. JM objecting for leading every sentence.
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TamaraTattles ‏@TamaraTattles 2m2 minutes ago

NEW POST: Jodi Arias Trial Morning Session http://tamaratattles.com/2014/11/13/jodi-arias-morning-recap-for-thursday/ … I'll update the afternoon session this evening. #JodiArias #jodiariastrial
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Pastilla LaMannequin ‏@PastillaTru 2m2 minutes ago

So are these video clips of Desiree Freeman's part of Fonseca's testimony? #JodiArias
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago

Video of Desiree Freeman from criminal trial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNcqk2ps5Y … (7:59) #JodiArias

Nancy Gill ‏@nancygill 1m1 minute ago

@Teri423 If it comes in. Much of her stalking stuff didn't come in last trial. #JodiArias
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MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago

Fonseca now explaining how #TravisAlexander T-Dog side was sexual, but with the Freeman's #JodiArias said he tried to be a good guy
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Pitchforks ‏@PitchforksPosts 1m1 minute ago

This sums up ethics of insiders in #JodiArias case "I'm not supposed to talk to the media, but..." #TravisAlexander's sister Samantha Nov 12
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Darcie Kleino ‏@mrk21000 1m1 minute ago

@TrialDiariesJ Premarital sex is against almost every religion but you'll find very few 30 year old virgins. #JodiArias #noreasontokill
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Angels Dwell ‏@Angels_Dwell 1m1 minute ago

@jengirdonmills #GOJUANGO #jodiarias
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Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 2m2 minutes ago

On tape D. Freeman tells jury TA presented himself as a virgin to his Mormon friends while having hidden relationship w/#jodiarias #3tvarias
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William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 2m2 minutes ago

Fonseca: #TravisAlexander was trying hard to be a good Mormon. #JodiArias
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 2m2 minutes ago

Witness back to “T-Dogg” associated with sexuality and “pulling for chicks” and #TravisAlexander more “good guy” #JodiArias
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Teri ‏@Teri423 2m2 minutes ago Palm Harbor, FL

Hope these young women see how she pushed herself on him. Moved to Mesa AFTER THEY BROKE UP? CRAZY STALKER LUNATIC! #jodiarias
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Madelyn ‏@Madelyn113 1m1 minute ago

Everyone knew about the relationship.That's why everyone pointed LE to #JodiArias Perhaps not the sex.
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 1m1 minute ago

Some #JodiArias jurors taking notes. Others (men) seem bored with this testimony.
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MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago

#JuanMartinez continues to object -- Judge Stephens calls attys to bench #JodiArias #TravisAlexander #abc15
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Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 2m2 minutes ago

Continuous objections by Martinez, now Judge SS is having trouble hearing Martinez. Sidebar. #JodiArias
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago

Travis was a different person when he was traveling vs. at home in his element according to expert based on what Desiree said #jodiarias
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CJ ‏@cjcj831 2m2 minutes ago

#jodiarias I can't wait for juror questions for this "doctor"
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago

T-Dog happening all over again. Pushing Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde theory base on Desiree Freeman's testimony. #JodiArias

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago

Nurmi is doing the Dr. Jekyll... Mr. Hyde/ Travis..T-Dogg comparison #jodiarias #3TVARIAS
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jay ‏@Moore82R 1m1 minute ago

Someone play this quack one of TA's motivational speaker videos and have her profile that as well. #JodiArias
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Cardar ‏@cardar2003 1m1 minute ago

Just watched Freeman video. What did Nurmnuts expect to prove with this video? Nothing bad about Travis...sheesh #JodiArias #NurmnutsStupid
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CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 1m1 minute ago Phoenix, AZ

Clinical psychologist Dr. Miccio Fonseca still on the witness stand talking about Arias' relationship with Travis Alexander.#jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago

Expert states Desiree was surprised Jodi was on trip and not Lisa #jodiarias #3TVARIAS
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 1m1 minute ago

Desiree surprised #TravisAlexander didn’t brink Lisa but brought #JodiArias instead.

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago

Fonseca says Desiree Freeman was surprised to see #JodiArias on trip & not Lisa Andrews who #TravisAlexander was dating at time. #abc15

@ 36:00
Juan is talking with Dan Freeman.
Freeman states JA was about the same ht as Travis, maybe an inch taller....

I leave you the main twitter link.
They are playing the vid of Freemans from the main trial.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R6OTb6vT04&feature=youtu.be

The Trial File ‏@TheTrialFile 2m2 minutes ago

Ex-Jodi Arias lawyer: 'Never left alone' with porn files http://azc.cc/1uqNauU

Mdee ‏@EmsterD70 7m7 minutes ago

Wilmott shows #jodiarias something on her phones screen.
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Jan Nargi ‏@jannargi 4m4 minutes ago

@EmsterD70 is that allowed?#JodiArias
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Angels Dwell ‏@Angels_Dwell 1m1 minute ago

@jannargi @EmsterD70 Twitter!!! O M G #jodiarias exposed to the world
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Aaron Murphy ‏@karmicaaron 3m3 minutes ago

Motion for discovery, related to the Compaq Presario Computer of Travis's filed today. #JodiArias

Tina 4 Justice ‏@tinalcarr69 3m3 minutes ago

@karmicaaron Motion of Discovery was filed by Juan. Wants the DT to prove their allegations. #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 32s33 seconds ago

video ends, Nurmi's back up to talk to Fonseca. #JodiArias
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 35s36 seconds ago

Video over. #Nurmi talking to witness again about Dr. Jeckyll and Mr Hyde personality. #JodiArias
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Kimberly Dennis ‏@mekimpossible 44s45 seconds ago

So having sex,Sex she testified she willingly participated in &enjoyed(with them being single adult),makes all the work evil? #JodiArias
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago

Now we're going to listen to the expert witness give us her opinion of Dan's opinion of the deceased... we've already said T-Dog. #JodiArias

My comment:
Dan Freeman NEVER told JA Travis was dead.
Freeman told JA, "Travis is gone."
JA paused and then she was so sorry to hear he was DEAD.

Would a logical person jump to the conclusion someone was dead if told that person was gone? Maybe, Freeman was telling JA Travis had gone on to Cancun, as Travis had planned to do. This would indicate JA understood Travis was dead, not just gone, and that would indicate she had knowledge Freeman had not shared...

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 5m5 minutes ago

Several jurors taking notes. About half look as if they could take a nap. #JodiArias listening to witness talk.
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Terrance M.D. Gibbs ‏@Gibbs_Terrance 6m6 minutes ago

#Nurmi can talk about her dirty panties and her deformed pussy all he wants. It will never be enough to get #JodiArias off of death row.
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6m6 minutes ago

Expert is saying Travis not wanting to show #jodiarias off hurt her self esteem #3TVARIAS
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Dedelightful ‏@Dede0808 6m6 minutes ago

@william_pitts @michaelbkiefer Nurmi should contact @David_Lohr about editing out sidebars & recesses from #JodiArias trial video
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago

A phone went off and Nurmi asked to approach. #jodiarias #3TVARIAS

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 29s30 seconds ago

Nurmi thinks it may have been a recording from someone in the gallery

Rosie G ‏@RosieGar49 2m2 minutes ago

"@jeffgoldesq: #JodiArias expert:it late in day and she's very confused by Nurmi #nursinghomecalling" r u kidding me, how old is this person


The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 1m1 minute ago

Every juror is jotting down notes. #JodiArias

Nicole Goodman Esq ‏@msesquirette 2m2 minutes ago

#JodiArias Juan Martinez has his head resting on his hand with a look like... OH COME ON GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!
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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 2m2 minutes ago

#JodiArias This email from Lisa Andrews to Travis saying she sorry about being "sexitive" experts word/ is that a word?
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago

Lisa tells Travis she felt like she was a way for him to let out his sexual energy which he has a lot of...#jodiarias #3TVARIAS
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Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago

Now Fonseca is reading an angry email from Lisa Andrews about Alex

Nicole Goodman Esq ‏@msesquirette 1m1 minute ago

#JodiArias juror in way way back ponytail made a face at Nurmi when he did the Mr. HYDE freaking name calling crap again

Pastilla LaMannequin ‏@PastillaTru 56s57 seconds ago

@JohnPaulPenney @TrialDiariesJ Lived diff states 5 mos they dated.#JodiArias moved Mesa after break-up.Left after 8.5 mos.Murder 2 mos after

Nicole Goodman Esq ‏@msesquirette 48s48 seconds ago

#JodiArias Juan looks like he's covering his mouth not to laugh outloud at this stupid line of questioning and more stupid responses


IIRC:
Lisa ne3ver had sex with Travis.
Travis had swatted her butt and she found it was not appropriate (too full of herself)
and accused him of being too sexual.... She was a teen...

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago

"I'm trying to explain, not to excuse, the relationship." Fonseca on Travis Alexander. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago

Lisa is telling Travis he was acting like she should b grateful he took off work & took her on a trip. It was noticed by others #jodiarias


My comments:
What a cruel and uncaring man he was! How could he????

Tammy Lynne ‏@tammylynne67 31s31 seconds ago Winchester, NV

@TrialDiariesJ In other words #TravisAlexander was a normal red blooded American male #jodiarias
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The 13th Juror MD ‏@The13thJurorMD 44s44 seconds ago

@WildAboutTrial I know the feeling! This part is like shoveling snow post blizzard. Slow and painstaking! #JodiArias
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Brenda ‏@BrendaLee2014 46s46 seconds ago

@TrialDiariesJ Travis was young liked women and questioned his religion, still didn't give #JodiArias the right to murder him, #murderer
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Julie Capito ‏@capitotally 1m1 minute ago

#JodiArias looks like the media hasn't been missing much in this trial. Evry1 is fallin asleep. seems 2b draggin! Nurmi, you're losing jury
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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 1m1 minute ago

Both Juan and #JodiArias almost laying on there tables at opposite ends of room. Bookends of #boredom

c ‏@justcsfine 43s44 seconds ago

it's nonsense.. if anything the judge should ask the sex expert why Defense has been entirely about sex! what's with that? #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago

Fonseca: #TravisAlexander was having sex with #JodiArias while discussing marriage with Lisa Andrews.
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Aaron Murphy ‏@karmicaaron 1m1 minute ago

@jeffgoldesq Not cheating if both other parties are aware, and consenting. #JodiArias And if he's not officially with someone.
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Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 1m1 minute ago

#JodiArias is not a saint, Nurmi. Stop acting like she is. #JusticeForTravis
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter 58s58 seconds ago

Let's not forget that #JodiArias killed Travis in self defense. *cough cough* Not jealous rage. Snapped. Couldn't take anymore. Low self est
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago

Court is in recess until 9:30am MST TOMORROW #JodiArias #3TVARIAS
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D Dogg ❤️ ‏@dlwood16 1m1 minute ago

Is court in session 2 morrow?? #JodiArias
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Angels Dwell ‏@Angels_Dwell 1m1 minute ago

@thegoldpatrol Oh we hope #jodiarias sees this *joy-joy-joy
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Jan Nargi ‏@jannargi 1m1 minute ago

@WildAboutTrial Im sorry, are Lisa Andrews and #JodiArias Dead? Are they mute? Then expert STFU and let them explain themselves!
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JennJustice ‏@Jen_4Justice 1m1 minute ago

@william_pitts @michaelbkiefer you know what really doesn't feel good ... being stabbed shot and having your neck slit... #JodiArias
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William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago

one juror question, but it wonn't be read now. #JodiArias
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 1m1 minute ago

1 juror question #JodiArias
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micki ‏@orlandomicki 2m2 minutes ago

Now it is abuse to date different people, those girls didn't have a commitment, although they all persued him , hoping ! #JodiArias
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 2m2 minutes ago

Court is over for the day! #JodiArias
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Justice4Travis ‏@Justice4TravisA 1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING Former #JodiArias lawyer Maria Schaffer denies allegations by prosecutor the she may have deleted porn... http://fb.me/6OTkQGRJO

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Traci Morrison ‏@TraciMorrison3 3m3 minutes ago

#JodiArias I've got it now-Nurmi doesn't have a plan so he's just gonna drag every bit of evidence out and repeat over and over
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Can someone explain to me why tapes from the last trial have been shown when the jury isn't supposed to know about the last trial? Isn't that opening the door?

18thcenturylady wrote:I don't know what is going on today. Is Fonseca still on the stand? Does anyone know about when Juan will cross examine her?

She is back w Nurmi on Monday.
Who knows when Juan will get her....

I expect Nurmi will decide to put JA's family on the stand since they went back to N. Ca.
N.Ca is currently under torrential rains... and may have snow soon.
That would make the roads impassable... and delay the trial!
Yet, Nurmi will insist it is vital in a DP case to hear ALL the witnesses.... and we won't hear from them until the snow thaws. Yeah... end of January like he wanted?

One Wonders wrote:Can someone explain to me why tapes from the last trial have been shown when the jury isn't supposed to know about the last trial? Isn't that opening the door?

This jury knows they are there ONLY for the sentencing, IIRC.

It was the John Goodman trial where the entire trial was redone due to jury misconduct that the judge determined they were not to know of the prior jury conviction....
The problem arose when it came to the evidence of the car as it had been disposed of AFTER the first trial and the def wanted it available for this second trial. They did use evidence from the first trial but NO mention as to its earlier use.

I may be wrong!

Oh my God, they don't even have court until Wed. this week, which was mainly a joke, then yesterday, NOW NO court on Friday! This is ridiculous!

Freckles wrote:Justice4Travis ‏@Justice4TravisA 1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING Former #JodiArias lawyer Maria Schaffer denies allegations by prosecutor the she may have deleted porn... http://fb.me/6OTkQGRJO

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

it is a shame that someone can't find a way to let Juan know that all of the mentioned sites were TROJANS

Freckles wrote:

One Wonders wrote:Can someone explain to me why tapes from the last trial have been shown when the jury isn't supposed to know about the last trial? Isn't that opening the door?

This jury knows they are there ONLY for the sentencing, IIRC.

It was the John Goodman trial where the entire trial was redone due to jury misconduct that the judge determined they were not to know of the prior jury conviction....
The problem arose when it came to the evidence of the car as it had been disposed of AFTER the first trial and the def wanted it available for this second trial. They did use evidence from the first trial but NO mention as to its earlier use.  

I may be wrong!

Oh gosh...sometimes I just need to shut up. Thank you Freckles.