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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:31 am

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Big Daddy! Spindy got a message on her phone (I think) & left the court room.
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:32 am

I wonder WHO it was from? I'm sure it was one of her many friends.
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:32 am

Wonder if G hocked his earrings???
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Post by Piper Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 am

He doesn't appear to have any black eyes......hehehe

Thanks for the pic, Fysty!!
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 am

Estee wrote:Wonder if G hocked his earrings???

Didn't use the money for his mortgage! LMAO
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:33 am

I wonder if he hocked them at the same place he hocked his pride...
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:34 am

LOL Piper! Nope, No black eyes!
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:35 am

Jean Casares(sp?) talking about the unsealed evidence!!!
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:36 am

LottieM wrote:Does their new attorney seem a bit antagonistic, or is it just me?

It's not just you Lottie, they are all antagonistic! He doesn't look like KC's type...
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:42 am

another live link


http://www.wftv.com/video/22875615/index.html
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:42 am

Does anyone know anything about this "Mason" dude??? Where's he from???Has he handled any earth shattering cases???
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:44 am

Thanks Fysty! That one works much better!

Estee~He looks familiar to me.
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:48 am

I posted in another thread, a couple of news stories that give more information on the new clown.
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:50 am

Also...secret document Judge unseals...

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22876651/detail.html

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22876634/detail.html
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:54 am

Thanks Fysty....
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:54 am

Just a quick snippet....(http://www.wftv.com/news/22876305/detail.html)

“You do not come any larger than J Cheney Mason,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

Mason is one of the top defense attorney's in the country. He has tried 50 murder cases successfully and is a part of a number of anti-death penalty organizations.

“[Cheney] is a founding father of the Central Florida Criminal Defense Association,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer told WFTV. “This is a game changer.”
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:57 am

I wonder if Jose has any "off shore" bank accounts?
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:00 pm

Here is his website..

http://www.jcheneymason.com/
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:02 pm

I just noticed that Judge Strickland's headrest sometimes makes him look like he's wearing large headphones!!!
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:02 pm

How do you attend a hearing and testify to things without bringing documents to back it up? Lyon and Baez appear to be pulling info from the air above their heads.
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:03 pm

They have nothing to back up what they say, I guess we should just trust them??
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:03 pm

Damn, it sure sounds like they have gotten a lot of money. IMO, and it's only MY opinion...if they have been offered money for book deals and/or movie deals...why not have them take THAT money instead of taxpayers paying for this skanky bitch? I mean, I don't think they should be allowed to make ANY money from Caylee's death, but it just seems to me that they will in the end anyway. Whey not make them USE that money for her defense & not allow her to just sit on a bankroll and buy her twinkie's in jail? It's sort of a catch 22 but IMO, she'll make money later (when the trial is over) anyway. Why not tell Bozo to take the damn deals & use that money instead???
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:04 pm

LOL Estee! Or a hammerhead shark!

Get er done Strickland!
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:06 pm

Does Bozo look like the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz, or is it just me? roflao
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:06 pm

I hope that if this goes thru it prohibits everyone from $$ in the future!!!! Even after this case is finalized...
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:07 pm

Fysty~Yup! Laughing
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:08 pm

How much has cousin IT recieved?
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:08 pm

Relying on someones WORD? Are you kidding me? I can't believe Strickland will go for this. I hope not anyway.
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:09 pm

Who are they talking to?
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:11 pm

Not exactly sure Dis. There has been a problem hearing whoever it is, from the beginning. Hopefully there will be a transcript.
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:12 pm

I have a feeling that this new guy is going to be GOOD for this case. Judge Strickland doesn't seem to be liking his BS much.
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:13 pm

Jack is on the phone...said something about wanting KC to testify re this indigency under oath...Mason said in a few words...NO WAY
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:13 pm

Thanks Fysty! InSession is on PST so they are not even to the hearing yet. Still talking about fraud trial.
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:14 pm

Oh, do you mean JAC Estee? The agency that monitors indengency funds?
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:15 pm

Whoops...looks like Mason was thrown for a loop re getting Fl expert to set CAPS
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:15 pm

BTW...Estee...Just a few more days till I come to Florida. I am SO looking forward to meeting you in person! Haven't heard from KariBear. Please let her know I'll be there from Mar 23 to April 7th.
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Post by Dis Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:18 pm

Yeah right Bozo! Shut Up!
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:29 pm

I noticed that Spindy tried to get a glimpse of KC as she was being led from the court room. KC on the other hand, never even looked their way.
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Post by Estee Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:31 pm

I'll call Kari tonight ...I had sent her a PM, but she hasn't responded yet....
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Post by LottieM Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:34 pm

ABC put $200,000 in a trust fund for Casey!
The fired attorney gave her $70,000!
$5000 from an anonymous donor!

That's 275 thou, minus the 110 admitted paid out, where is the other 95 thou?
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Post by khintx Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:38 pm

That was the wierdest thing I have ever seen! kh
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Post by khintx Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:39 pm

And that guy Mason seemed to think he and he alone could deem Casey 'obviously indigent"- What the heck???? kh
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Post by LottieM Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:42 pm

I agree, the defense came to this hearing without paperwork to support their case? They are still hiding something! What is it?

My biggie of the day!

Did you all catch Baez saying he was 'retained' by Casey on JUNE 17th? OK, just a misspeak, OR does this explain why he was readily available at the jail when Casey got arrested? There's always been confusion over just how Casey chose Baez! What if it wasn't a misspeak and he screwed up and told the truth by accident?
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Post by khintx Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:44 pm

Great point Lottie. He was certainly squirming. The entire dufense team found the whole morning very amusing. He brought this motion and brought no paperwork??? WTF??? kh
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:49 pm

Wow, what a hearing. That was the strangest thing I have ever seen. I don't think Strickland was very amused though.
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Post by khintx Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:52 pm

According to information provided by the State in a motion to block the
judge’s Thursday release of the evidence, “the Orange County Sheriff’s
Office was contacted by an inmate in the Florida Department of
Correction, who stated that she had communications with the Defendant
while in the Orange County Jail.”According to the State’s motion,
“that inmate was interviewed on or about the 22nd day of January 2010
and relayed potentially relevant statements by the Defendant, which are
not in the nature of a confession, and gave the name of another inmate
who also had communication with the Defendant. The second inmate,
presently incarcerated in Federal Prison, was interviewed on or about
the 27th day of January 2010 and reluctantly confirmed communication
with the Defendant adding that she had received approximately fifty
written communications from the Defendant which were then in the
possession of another individual whose identity was provided to the
Orange County Sheriffs Office.”The motion goes on to reveal that
the State believes “the documents ... appear to contain relevant
statements of the Defendant,” but do not include a confession.The
State continues, “In a subsequent the interview with F.D.L.E. on
February 12 2010, the federal inmate detailed how her friendship with
the Defendant began and developed, how the documents came into
existence, were transmitted and were maintained. She stated the
friendship and all communication ended when she was transferred to
federal custody. She stated that the friendship was not at the request
of any law enforcement personnel nor was she asked to relay any
information obtained to any law enforcement personnel. She did imply
that an Orange County Corrections officer may have facilitated the
communication once the friendship had begun but indicated a desire not
to ‘get anyone in trouble.’”The State’s motion asks for an
additional delay in the release of the documents, stating that “it is
anticipated that the investigation should be completed within the next
thirty days and that any premature revelation of these matters could
compromise the integrity of the investigation case.”
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Post by khintx Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:53 pm

That inmate was interviewed on or about the 22nd day of January 2010 and
relayed potentially relevant statements by the Defendant, which are not in the
nature of a confession, and gave the name of another inmate who also had
communication with the Defendant.
3. The second inmate, presently incarcerated in Federal Prison, was interviewed
on or about the 27th day of January 2010 and reluctantly confirmed
communication with the Defendant adding that she had received approximately
fifty written communications from the Defendant which were then in the
possession of another individual whose identity was provided to the Orange
County Sheriffs Office.
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Post by LottieM Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:55 pm

I'm going to go watch the hearing again khintx, but I paid attention after Jose said he was retained on JUNE 17 and Casey went into complete eyeball shock and didn't find anything humorous after that. Lyon looked a bit distracted as well after that remark.

I'm stuck on that slippage of Baez's! Caylee supposedly died on June 16th! If she actually did get Baez involved on June 17th that's very telling! He was right there at the jail house the day she was arrested - supposedly soliciting clients. I'm really thinking karma for Caylee has made Baez screw up and say JUNE 17th! Or maybe he didn't have a choice since he was put under oath in testimony!
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Post by khintx Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:57 pm

Lottie~ So- is this the other show that's gonna drop?! kh
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Post by FystyAngel Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:01 pm

If anyone finds the complete hearing online, please post the link or embed it. Thanks in advance.
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