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Well, well, well. The press conference (that no one really cared about anyway) has been postponed (as usual) until tomorrow. Does anyone really care at this point? And will LE be doing the pressor or will we be subjected to more insight from the 'perfect family'? Geesh. kh
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Off Topic:
http://www.kcci.com/video/24572107/index.html
Woman enraged over McNuggets....
Seriously, what is wrong with people??
(Esperanza- this one's for you!!)
http://www.kcci.com/video/24572107/index.html
Woman enraged over McNuggets....
Seriously, what is wrong with people??
(Esperanza- this one's for you!!)
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I can't get down with that.........
But I totally love the flight attendant that melted down, cursed the passengers, grabbed a few beers, deployed the emergency slide, and vacated the plane! ATTABOY STEVEN!
http://www.newser.com/tag/54422/1/jetblue-flight-attendant-freaks-out.html
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But I totally love the flight attendant that melted down, cursed the passengers, grabbed a few beers, deployed the emergency slide, and vacated the plane! ATTABOY STEVEN!
http://www.newser.com/tag/54422/1/jetblue-flight-attendant-freaks-out.html
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That is pretty funny! He just had enough- I think he worked for the airline 28 years or so, correct?
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New fliers~
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Police-flier-shows-photos-of-Spicher-asks-questions-100372044.html
DeDe Spicher is added to it.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Police-flier-shows-photos-of-Spicher-asks-questions-100372044.html
DeDe Spicher is added to it.
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From the article posted in my last comment:
For instance, the sources said that while Terri told some friends that her now-estranged husband, Kaine forced her teen son, James to move out of their house, the opposite was actually true. The sources told KGW that back in March, it was Terri who sent her son to live with her parents, not Kaine. They said the decision was made, in part, so Terri's son could be closer to his father.
For instance, the sources said that while Terri told some friends that her now-estranged husband, Kaine forced her teen son, James to move out of their house, the opposite was actually true. The sources told KGW that back in March, it was Terri who sent her son to live with her parents, not Kaine. They said the decision was made, in part, so Terri's son could be closer to his father.
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Why don't any of these sources give their names?
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Concerning the doctor's appointment and the possibility of Kyron seeing him because it may be seizures as per TH's comment about it, see Slvrspnrs comment at Hinky Meter:
Kyron Horman case: ...motive
Hi, Calypso! I know, it would be nice if the names were given. I have a feeling the sources could be James grandmother and his biological father. Hinky mentions this in her post that I've linked to.
Kyron Horman case: ...motive
Hi, Calypso! I know, it would be nice if the names were given. I have a feeling the sources could be James grandmother and his biological father. Hinky mentions this in her post that I've linked to.
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So much for the model blended family...............
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Thanks for the link, Sherry. Here's the flyer:
var docstoc_docid="49808947";var docstoc_title="Police Flyer- Terri Horman & DeDe Spicher";var docstoc_urltitle="Police Flyer- Terri Horman & DeDe Spicher"; Police Flyer- Terri Horman & DeDe Spicher
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I'm anxious for the press conference today. I would like facts on:
1. Confirmation from LE on 2nd person in the truck
2. Was Dede missing 4 hours from her job June 4th
3. Did Kaine force James out or was it Terri's idea
Where is Kyron?
1. Confirmation from LE on 2nd person in the truck
2. Was Dede missing 4 hours from her job June 4th
3. Did Kaine force James out or was it Terri's idea
Where is Kyron?
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Re: The new questionnaire/witch hunt perpetuation:
Only George Anthony can recall 'definitely' details from even a month back! It's been over 2 months since Kyron disappeared!
This is really grasping at straws to believe any reports from people today about that specific day and time in June. It was, afterall, a normal day in June at the time anyone would have seen the truck/Terri/DeDe.
LE needs to shift their focus 'just in case' they're barking up the wrong tree!
I hope today's presser will tell us where the rest of the family was and give us proof of their alibis! I'd just like to be able to rule out ALL the family since they ALL seem to have issues and as much motive, if not more motive, than Terri for getting rid of Kyron. Then they need to move on to a possible stranger abduction.
Speaking of a Stranger Abduction....why haven't LE asked the general public if they saw Kryon with ANYONE at the science fair...anyone other than Terri?
Only George Anthony can recall 'definitely' details from even a month back! It's been over 2 months since Kyron disappeared!
This is really grasping at straws to believe any reports from people today about that specific day and time in June. It was, afterall, a normal day in June at the time anyone would have seen the truck/Terri/DeDe.
LE needs to shift their focus 'just in case' they're barking up the wrong tree!
I hope today's presser will tell us where the rest of the family was and give us proof of their alibis! I'd just like to be able to rule out ALL the family since they ALL seem to have issues and as much motive, if not more motive, than Terri for getting rid of Kyron. Then they need to move on to a possible stranger abduction.
Speaking of a Stranger Abduction....why haven't LE asked the general public if they saw Kryon with ANYONE at the science fair...anyone other than Terri?
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It's another 'Fill in the Blank' questionnaire. They have no facts, but they want someone to fill in the blanks so they can make what they want to be the story fit. I can drive to any school in my county and find 5 trucks like that one. So, someone would have to know that it was the truck SHE was driving when she usually doesn't drive a truck. Wouldn't people have been noticing her car since that was her normal vehicle? The truck wouldn't have stood out as being connected to her. So how did everyone just KNOW that it was her vehicle on that morning (before anyone knew he was missing)?
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I think anyone who is looking for the answers to pressing questions at the press conference is gonna be SOL. They do appear to be trying damned hard to fill in their blanks with one answer and one answer only: TERRI (occasionally interchangeable with DEDE). I doubt they have anything of substance to tell us..... they never have in the past. But I've been wrong before.
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I fear for the worse...It has just been too long without any good news...
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Has anyone found the presser on line yet? I can't remember which station was going to carry it live. Will they have a video up soon, so we can all see it?
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Site~
http://www.katu.com/news/live
KATU is going to cover it............ it is at 2:00 which I assume is west pacific time, so that would be like 4:00 central and 5:00 eastern standard time.
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http://www.katu.com/news/live
KATU is going to cover it............ it is at 2:00 which I assume is west pacific time, so that would be like 4:00 central and 5:00 eastern standard time.
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IT's ON NOW!!!! kh
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What are they saying? I can't get streaming at work.
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They said they rea distributing pics of the white truck and asking anyone who saw it at school or the stores Terri stopped at that morning to come forward. Also, if they saw anyone around, near or in the truck. They wouldn't talk about the new fliers. When asked why they didn't sent out all the pics of the truck and stuff before they said "it is now the appropriate time for that information to to out, blah, blah, blah." They assured everyone that they are top notch professional copsters who know what they are doing- blah, blah, blah.
That was pretty much it.
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That was pretty much it.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/live_video_watch_the_kyron_hor_1.html
Link for above 8/11/10 press conference
Link for above 8/11/10 press conference
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They also asked for people that parked in the school lot on June 4th to call the tip line and reveal make/model/color of their car and where they parked. Especially in one certain area, I think he said SW corner but I might be wrong. He said it's helpful to go back and visit that information.
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Thanks kh and Piper...I'm always a day late and a dollar short...Did turn on HLN and they have been talking about it off and on as usual, however I watched the above briefing that Pipester posted....Same old, same old...
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Yes, Estee- same old same old......... and still no Kyron. kh
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Things that make you go HMMMMMMMM.......
(AND WTF???!)
(AND WTF???!)
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Specifically, investigators want to know if anyone saw the white Ford F-250 pickup truck at the following locations during the following times:
â– At Skyline Elementary school on June 4th between 8:15am and 8:45am. Did you see any individuals in or around the truck?
â– At the Fred Meyer in Hillsboro on NW Imbrie Dr around 9am?
â– At the Fred Meyer in Beaverton on SW Walker Rd around 10am?
â– In the area of Germantown Rd, Old Germantown Rd, Skyline Blvd, Springville Rd and surrounding roads between 10:15am and 10:45am.
Additionally, police would like to speak with anyone that was at the school on June 4th AND parked in the south parking lot during the hours of 8:15am and 8:45am.
http://theportlander.com/2010/08/11/police-in-portland-seek-the-publics-help-in-kyron-horman-case/
â– At Skyline Elementary school on June 4th between 8:15am and 8:45am. Did you see any individuals in or around the truck?
â– At the Fred Meyer in Hillsboro on NW Imbrie Dr around 9am?
â– At the Fred Meyer in Beaverton on SW Walker Rd around 10am?
â– In the area of Germantown Rd, Old Germantown Rd, Skyline Blvd, Springville Rd and surrounding roads between 10:15am and 10:45am.
Additionally, police would like to speak with anyone that was at the school on June 4th AND parked in the south parking lot during the hours of 8:15am and 8:45am.
http://theportlander.com/2010/08/11/police-in-portland-seek-the-publics-help-in-kyron-horman-case/
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Having trouble viewing the video (my computer STINKS!). Are the police saying they suddenly believe another adult was in the car, or is that another 'source' info report. Love these so-called 'sources.'
It looks like they have nothing, so they are asking the public to suddenly create new facts for them. I am really frustrated with the officials in this town. If Kaine and Dez were any kind of parent at all, they would be screaming for the police to do their freaking jobs and stop playing "Days of Our Lives" for the press.
I never hear of any new news on this. They just seem to rehash the same thing over and over. I think Albert Einstein can explain this well:
It looks like they have nothing, so they are asking the public to suddenly create new facts for them. I am really frustrated with the officials in this town. If Kaine and Dez were any kind of parent at all, they would be screaming for the police to do their freaking jobs and stop playing "Days of Our Lives" for the press.
I never hear of any new news on this. They just seem to rehash the same thing over and over. I think Albert Einstein can explain this well:
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LE placed Kaine's truck at the school for these pictures that were displayed at the presser, same spot different camera angle:
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It seems to me, they are working on a process of elimination in regards to the school parking lot. I would think that was something that would have been done in the first few days.
One of the gentlemen this morning confirmed they could place her at one Fred Meyer. But to ask the public if they can remember a white truck in a store parking lot two months later seems like a real stretch to me.
One of the gentlemen this morning confirmed they could place her at one Fred Meyer. But to ask the public if they can remember a white truck in a store parking lot two months later seems like a real stretch to me.
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Piper wrote:It seems to me, they are working on a process of elimination in regards to the school parking lot. I would think that was something that would have been done in the first few days....
Piper...... my problem is how long they waited. PLUS: The process of elimination can easily be manipulated into the process of suggestion- especially over time! Maybe someone said "yea, I think I saw that truck at so and so a place on that day"..... but they're not sure. Then they get flier after flier after quetionaire and asked over and over again "is this the truck you saw? is this the truck you saw"... and 2-1/2 months later you might just say "yea that's it! I'm sure of it!"- when in fact you really arent any more sure than you were in the first place........ but the power of suggestion, maybe even the strong desire to help, could make what is supposed to be an objective eyewitness report utterly worthless in my opinion.
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I may be entirely off base, but if those pictures of the truck were supposed to be in the parking lots at the school, to me, it looked like they were parked in the road, not a parking lot. In the pictures of the school provided by Calypso, it did not look like there was a parking lot in front of the school, and it only looked like there was a small parking lot behind the school.
Sounds to me that LE wants the public to solve their case for them, they don't want to do anything themselves.
Sounds to me that LE wants the public to solve their case for them, they don't want to do anything themselves.
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I thought it was pics of the truck parked and taken from a lot of different angles..... oh well. kh
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I'm going to give up and go with......
Terri and DeDe were having an alternative lifestyle clandestine fling.
And DeDe has another lover who approached Terri in the parking lot on June 4 and told her to stay away from DeDe or else.
Terri told her to cram it! So the spurned lover goes in and takes Kyron, not knowing it's not her bio child, in hopes of using him as leverage to getting Terri to promise to leave DeDe alone.
Terri meets up with DeDe because she knew DeDe was just down the road working....she tell her the other woman is threatening her (but not with abducting Kyron because that wasn't said...just threatening her).
DeDe says she'll take care of it...and she goes off abruptly to do that. And that's why DeDe can't say where she really was.
Terri goes on about her daily business.
the man that someone reported having seen at the truck with terri that morning was really a Butch! THE Butch!
So where's Kyron? The Butch has him! But no one, not Terri or DeDe know or even think that's where he is.
Yeah, so that's my daily (not serious) version of this crazy mess!
Terri and DeDe were having an alternative lifestyle clandestine fling.
And DeDe has another lover who approached Terri in the parking lot on June 4 and told her to stay away from DeDe or else.
Terri told her to cram it! So the spurned lover goes in and takes Kyron, not knowing it's not her bio child, in hopes of using him as leverage to getting Terri to promise to leave DeDe alone.
Terri meets up with DeDe because she knew DeDe was just down the road working....she tell her the other woman is threatening her (but not with abducting Kyron because that wasn't said...just threatening her).
DeDe says she'll take care of it...and she goes off abruptly to do that. And that's why DeDe can't say where she really was.
Terri goes on about her daily business.
the man that someone reported having seen at the truck with terri that morning was really a Butch! THE Butch!
So where's Kyron? The Butch has him! But no one, not Terri or DeDe know or even think that's where he is.
Yeah, so that's my daily (not serious) version of this crazy mess!
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Very interesting, Lottie.
And very well could be a possibility!!
And very well could be a possibility!!
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Here's something I'd REALLY like to know!
they said on the news today that there is no cell signal at the Horman house.....now if that's true, then I'm going back to my theory that Terri would just leave her cell IN her red car for use while she was out (like I do because I have no signal at my house in rural america)..
And if that's true, then the cell pings from that morning in the Sauvie Island area from Terri's phone were from Kaine being there!
I want answers to this!
they said on the news today that there is no cell signal at the Horman house.....now if that's true, then I'm going back to my theory that Terri would just leave her cell IN her red car for use while she was out (like I do because I have no signal at my house in rural america)..
And if that's true, then the cell pings from that morning in the Sauvie Island area from Terri's phone were from Kaine being there!
I want answers to this!
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khintx wrote:I thought it was pics of the truck parked and taken from a lot of different angles..... oh well. kh
That's what they said in the presser, kh. And these were the pictures, the images, they presented. They never said the truck was actually parked there on June 4th. These were pics LE created on their own...........so I'm not sure where they are going with it.
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Why are the photo's taken right beneath Kyron's wall?
Is this to create a subliminal guilt trip?
To the person who vandalized Kyron's wall?
Why this particular location and not a parking lot for instance?
Is this to create a subliminal guilt trip?
To the person who vandalized Kyron's wall?
Why this particular location and not a parking lot for instance?
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LottieM wrote:Here's something I'd REALLY like to know!
they said on the news today that there is no cell signal at the Horman house.....now if that's true, then I'm going back to my theory that Terri would just leave her cell IN her red car for use while she was out (like I do because I have no signal at my house in rural america)..
And if that's true, then the cell pings from that morning in the Sauvie Island area from Terri's phone were from Kaine being there!
I want answers to this!
Well, here is my question. If there is no cell service, how did Terri sexting to the newest player in all of this? IIRC, at that time, she wasn't leaving her house due to all the media.
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Wonder who really had the phone. And if she had these phony phones, why use her regular one?
I know I can change phones on a whim with Verizon. Just call a number and punch in a code. I bet a computer whiz can even clone a phone. PING! PING! anyone?
I know I can change phones on a whim with Verizon. Just call a number and punch in a code. I bet a computer whiz can even clone a phone. PING! PING! anyone?
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Maat wrote:Wonder who really had the phone. And if she had these phony phones, why use her regular one?
I know I can change phones on a whim with Verizon. Just call a number and punch in a code. I bet a computer whiz can even clone a phone. PING! PING! anyone?
My confusion is that everyone refers to the phones as "disposable phones" which I would think means like a Net10 phone you can buy at any drugstore or Dollar General....... no contracts, no registration. Uses cards to replenish minutes. So I am confused why they would say "they used fake names!" when no name is required? kh
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Calypso wrote:Why are the photo's taken right beneath Kyron's wall?
Is this to create a subliminal guilt trip?
To the person who vandalized Kyron's wall?
Why this particular location and not a parking lot for instance?
My question exactly.
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Press conference flier - pictures of the truck and the Fred Meyer stores. Click on the Fred Meyer pictues and there is a caption in regards to Terri's parking spots there. I have to assume they have video of her or at least the truck at both of those stores.
http://www.mcso.us/public/newsroom/081110_PressConferenceFlier.pdf
http://www.mcso.us/public/newsroom/081110_PressConferenceFlier.pdf
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Calypso wrote:Why are the photo's taken right beneath Kyron's wall?
Is this to create a subliminal guilt trip?
To the person who vandalized Kyron's wall?
Why this particular location and not a parking lot for instance?
Well, they've never said exactly where Terri parked her truck that morning, but I find it hard to believe she'd have parked there, but maybe she did.
But wait! They are looking also for someone parked in the same parking lot at the school as Terri too...right?
Oh, whatever....these cops make no sense with all their secretive games and strange clues....like they said someone came forward about 'something' (can't remember) and they want another person to come forward about the same thing to corroborate it....that's as much as telling the person who came forward to go get someone else to say the same thing so they can get on with it.
But get on with what? If they had any evidence to back up what person number 1 came forward with, they'd not need person number 2. So they just want 2 people to say the same thing....and then what? They're going to count it as real?
I wonder if it ever dawned on them that the reason they are having so much trouble finding evidence of a crime in this case is because they are on the wrong focus?
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I just don't see the point. Eleven weeks after Kyron was reported missing, a witness is supposed to suddenly remember, "Oh, wait a minute, I did see a little boy being kidnapped and murdered on June 4."
I've always suspected law enforcement had tunnel vision concerning Terri Horman, and yesterday's so-called press conference didn't make me change my mind.
I've always suspected law enforcement had tunnel vision concerning Terri Horman, and yesterday's so-called press conference didn't make me change my mind.
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