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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon May 20, 2013 6:40 pm

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Post by auman58 Mon May 20, 2013 6:54 pm

Mari 68 wrote:Jodi will thrive for years to come. Until she goes batty from the isolation - and then she'll really thrive. She will be in another place - whatever her twisted little mind conjurs up.

she's gonna thrive on her "plans"
her "appeals"
her "manipulations"
her "stories"

And weirdos from all over the country will write to her - men will propose marriage.

She will never see outside the prison. All her appeals are done without her presence in any court room.


I wonder if a Mormon clergyman will give 'er her last rites.....doubt I'll live to see it, but I'd like to see how she looks after 20 years on DR.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon May 20, 2013 7:14 pm

Character witness for Jodi Arias pulls out, citing threats and inner turmoil

By Diana Alvear and Erin McClam, NBC News

A woman who planned to testify as a character witness for Jodi Arias in a bid to spare her life decided Monday that she couldn’t go through with it, saying she had received death threats and was deeply conflicted about the case.

Lawyers for Arias, who was convicted earlier this month of the frenzied murder of an ex-lover, quickly asked for a mistrial in the sentencing phase on the grounds that a witness had been intimidated. The judge denied the request.

The potential witness, Patricia Womack, is a childhood friend of Arias who planned to testify about Arias’ abusive childhood. Besides the threats, she said that her heart went out to the family of Travis Alexander, whom Arias was convicted of killing.

“I couldn’t do it,” she told NBC News in an email. “I feel there is so much good in Jodi to be saved but then also someone’s dear life was taken.”

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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/20/18376796-character-witness-for-jodi-arias-pulls-out-citing-threats-and-inner-turmoil?lite
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Post by justanopinion Mon May 20, 2013 7:23 pm

auman58 wrote:
Mari 68 wrote:Jodi will thrive for years to come. Until she goes batty from the isolation - and then she'll really thrive. She will be in another place - whatever her twisted little mind conjurs up.

she's gonna thrive on her "plans"
her "appeals"
her "manipulations"
her "stories"

And weirdos from all over the country will write to her - men will propose marriage.

She will never see outside the prison. All her appeals are done without her presence in any court room.


I wonder if a Mormon clergyman will give 'er her last rites.....doubt I'll live to see it, but I'd like to see how she looks after 20 years on DR.


I thought (and I could be very wrong) that once she was found guilty of murder that she was removed from the Mormon community... (I am sure that there is a word for this but... I don't have the foggiest what it would be) Laughing

I don't want Jodi to go quietly into the night... I want her kicking and screaming like Travis did. I know that can't happen but in my imagination when that day comes that it is lights out for Jodi... that is what I hope Jodi will have in her mind... Travis' last moments and how she will meet her maker... if it is a vampire or some form of higher power (and by then Jodi may have found a new religion... Church of the Priestess most high comes to mind in her situation.. )
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon May 20, 2013 7:28 pm

Attorneys for Defendant ARIAS

SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA
IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF MARICOPA


THE STATE OF ARIZONA
Plaintiff,
vs.
JODI ANN ARIAS,
Defendant.

No. CR 2008-031021-001DT

MOTION FOR MISTRIAL;
SENTECING PHASE


(Hon. Sherry Stephens)

http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/Ariasmistrialmotion.pdf
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Post by Pianist Mon May 20, 2013 7:30 pm

justanopinion wrote:
auman58 wrote:

I wonder if a Mormon clergyman will give 'er her last rites.....doubt I'll live to see it, but I'd like to see how she looks after 20 years on DR.


I thought (and I could be very wrong) that once she was found guilty of murder that she was removed from the Mormon community... (I am sure that there is a word for this but... I don't have the foggiest what it would be) Laughing

I don't want Jodi to go quietly into the night... I want her kicking and screaming like Travis did. I know that can't happen but in my imagination when that day comes that it is lights out for Jodi... that is what I hope Jodi will have in her mind... Travis' last moments and how she will meet her maker... if it is a vampire or some form of higher power (and by then Jodi may have found a new religion... Church of the Priestess most high comes to mind in her situation.. )

Justanopinion, I used a well known quote to say how she should go from MY life. I agree that SHE should really suffer. I just don't want to be part of it. I hope she disappears from the limelight immediately after getting the DP. Sorry I wasn't clear.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon May 20, 2013 7:54 pm

Exclusive: Arias' childhood best friend speaks




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYvhL2A8TTo

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Post by Weeziethm Mon May 20, 2013 8:18 pm

Pianist wrote:There is only o e person responsible for this mess. It is not the judge... She has bent over backwards for the defense. She has been fair. We may lose our patience with her cautiousness but she has done her job. It is not Juan... He has spoken for the true victim and his family. He has shown not only passion but caring. On yes he tore into witnesses, but he did not stab them, shoot them, or slit their throats. He wanted facts and truth only. It is not the jury... God bless them for their patience, honor, and being able to see beyond the lies. It is not Jodi's family... They have tried to support and hang in beyond the normal. They have turned their backs on their own lives and realize they will have to live with the reputation bestowed upon them. It is not the defense team either... when a case smells like sh.. Looks like sh.. Feels like sh.. It is SH.. They have spent years shoveling the stuff and their client keeps dumping more on them.

Nope it is not any of them! It is only JODI'S doing. Her fault. Her responsibility from beginning to end. This started back in 2006 in her mind. So she has had YEARS of making this mess. I say let her look inside and live with the results of this mess until the day she dies. Let her live on death row until her appeals are done and then "Go quietly into the night"

Excellent synopsis, Pianist! Bravo. Best Posting Of The

She is like evil sticky tack; someone earlier today said gum on your shoe. Just cannot get rid of her. Not Travis, not the courts.

This is ALL her doing....and mark her words, she's lovin' it.
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Post by sassy5d Mon May 20, 2013 8:23 pm

All I can do is lmbo about all of this. She's STILL dragging this out..
So your defense stinks during the penalty phase?? Lol
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon May 20, 2013 8:57 pm

Exclusive: Jodi Arias' ex-boyfriend says what he couldn't in court

By Chris Williams
12 News
Mon May 20, 2013 3:46 PM


(VIDEO)

Darryl Brewer testified for his ex-girlfriend, Jodi Arias, early in her murder trial but his words were quickly used against the woman he once loved.

Brewer and Arias dated for several years. She broke up with the considerably older man to date Travis Alexander, whom she killed in 2008.

Read more:

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/articles/20130520jodi-arias-darryl-brewer-interview.html
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Post by glazier Mon May 20, 2013 9:07 pm

Hodi's bests shot at LWOP would be for Her MOTHER and/or Father to get up and BEG for her worthless carcass.

IMO...by now the Jury actually HATES Jodi Arias..
with a purple passion!...at least most of them anyway...
but a Mother's pathetic wailing just might reach that 1 or 2 bleeding hearts on the Jury...
maybe

The only thing I can figure is she has convinced her stupid self TO GET THE DP...and then WIN ON APPEAL.
because her Defense Team failed to provide mitigating witnesses.
It seems like an entirely ILLOGICAL strategy to me, but our legal system at times can be ENTIRELY ILLOGICAL!...
so - *shrug*

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Post by glazier Mon May 20, 2013 9:16 pm

And the beauty part of Todays fiasco was the 'Mitigation Specialist' HAS BIILLED THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR 100HOURS @ $100 PER HR!!!
FOR WHAT PRAYTELL??

'Team Hodi' is just delaying the inevitable as long as they can and maybe hope a Juror says or does something wrong...?
I'M PISSED!

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Post by Pianist Mon May 20, 2013 9:38 pm

glazier wrote:And the beauty part of Todays fiasco was the 'Mitigation Specialist' HAS BIILLED THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR 100HOURS @ $100 PER HR!!!
FOR WHAT PRAYTELL??

'Team Hodi' is just delaying the inevitable as long as they can and maybe hope a Juror says or does something wrong...?
I'M PISSED!

Glazier, my thoughts exactly about the mitigation expert. I posted earlier about it. What a waste. As for your being angry...I think that is the emotion that Jodi brings out in everyone. She brought it out even in Travis (his one e-mail). I try not to get that mad because it takes so much energy and SHE is not worth it. I am not successful every day but I sure try because I don't want her to sap my energy at all.
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Post by Ann - Tx Mon May 20, 2013 11:00 pm


Article & videos:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130520jodi-arias-ex-boyfriend-speaks.html
AZCentral - Phoenix, AZ -- Mon May 20, 2013 7:37 PM

Jodi Arias' ex-boyfriend speaks
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Post by Mari 68 Mon May 20, 2013 11:14 pm

All of it was strategy from the get!!!


Calling Patty and Darryl??? Strategy.

All of us wondering why she doesnt call her family to testify??

Because she and her attorneys know THIS jury will give her death. Period.

So they set up the drug using Patty to take the fall. They KNEW she would not withstand Juan. They could then pull this whole sham. Mistrials and withdrawals.

All strategy for either a new jury panel or for her appeals later.

The only slim chance in the future would be an appellate court commuting her sentence to life.

Russian roulette. Jodi's fav game.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon May 20, 2013 11:24 pm

WILLIAM G. MONTGOMERY
MARICOPA COUNTY ATTORNEY


Juan M. Martinez
Deputy County Attorney

IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA
IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF MARICOPA


THE STATE OF ARIZONA,
Plaintiff,
vs.
JODI ANN ARIAS,
Defendant.

OBJECTION TO MOTION FOR
MISTRIAL; SENTENCING PHASE


(Assigned to the Honorable
Sherry K. Stephens)

http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/Ariasobjection.pdf
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Post by Calypso Tue May 21, 2013 4:23 am

Donavan:

http://www.uglyjudge.com/convicted-felon-donavan-m-bering-owes-190000-00-in-restitution-is-in-court-everyday-helping-a-convicted-murderer/
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Post by sassy5d Tue May 21, 2013 6:48 am

How is this ineffective defense? Guess it is Russian roulette. They will have access to everything, including her interviews
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Post by carlakay Tue May 21, 2013 7:09 am

Ann - Tx wrote:
Article & videos:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130520jodi-arias-ex-boyfriend-speaks.html
AZCentral - Phoenix, AZ -- Mon May 20, 2013 7:37 PM

Jodi Arias' ex-boyfriend speaks

only read the article cuz too early for me to listen to an idiot speak but the article makes it sound as if DB was robbed of the chance to play hero yesterday...WTH? I thought he hadnt shown up either?
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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 7:41 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Exclusive: Jodi Arias' ex-boyfriend says what he couldn't in court

By Chris Williams
12 News
Mon May 20, 2013 3:46 PM


(VIDEO)

Darryl Brewer testified for his ex-girlfriend, Jodi Arias, early in her murder trial but his words were quickly used against the woman he once loved.

Brewer and Arias dated for several years. She broke up with the considerably older man to date Travis Alexander, whom she killed in 2008.

Read more:

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/articles/20130520jodi-arias-darryl-brewer-interview.html


Well, I watched this whole video interview of Darryl Brewer and while he seems like a "nice" man, IMO he is living in a dream world, and is NOT telling the WHOLE TRUTH. Jodi had many problems with lying, manipulating, spying and stalking BEFORE SHE EVER GOT INVOLVED WITH BREWER. I don't believe that Jodi was quite the pollyanna that Darryl says she was. By her own admission, in her past she also had issues with her temper, hitting walls, etc., and I believe that Darryl had gotten a glimpse of that as well.
IF Darryl was so interested in testifying, why did the DEFENSE decide not to call him? IMO, there are secrets there that would not stand up well under cross examination.
At best, I feel this guy is and always has looked at Jodi through rose colored glasses. Classic case of love is blind.
I also feel that Jodi was NEVER passionate about Darryl, and was basically biding her time. As Dr. D. said, she needs to be in a relationship and to be the center of attention. I think Darryl was a convenience for her.
No matter what he may say, Jodi told co workers that she was not happy in her relationship with him OVER A YEAR BEFORE SHE EVER MET TRAVIS.
Darryl also says that they had "friends" who all loved Jodi. When asked why none of them were testifying, he said the defense "had never contacted them"! Preposterous tale.

I don't think Darryl is credible and I think all of this is

BS BS BS

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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 7:47 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Exclusive: Arias' childhood best friend speaks




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYvhL2A8TTo



LOL, Oh yeah...This witness would have done a whole lot for Jodi---what a train wreck!!! We find that she sold some photos, pocketed the $$ and didn't declare it, and when questioned by Juan, pleads the 5th! ONLY AFTER that does this pea brain Patty decide to tell the world she can't possibly testify because she is " allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"getting death threats"!
MORE BS BS BS !!!!

To add insult to injury, what Kurt Nurmi did in the courtroom yesterday was to throw a temper tantrum, tit for tat hissy fit! "Wah, wah, wah, please remove me from this case yr'hon'r, and while your at it, wah, wah, Mr. Martinez is MEAN to my witnesses!"
shut up

Oh brother...Theater of the absurd to be sure...

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Post by justanopinion Tue May 21, 2013 7:48 am

Calypso wrote:Donavan:

http://www.uglyjudge.com/convicted-felon-donavan-m-bering-owes-190000-00-in-restitution-is-in-court-everyday-helping-a-convicted-murderer/


The trial watchers are very pro-active! I am wondering why DB has not said anything about death threats... since everyone else on team Arias seems to have been threatened... oh maybe because there really are no threats and DB didn't want to lie about that one thing!!
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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 7:55 am

FROM uglyjudge.com:


Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #22 - Page 6 Donova10
“Okay everyone, I just got off the phone with the Superior Court Probation Service Center 245 N Centennial Way Mesa, AZ 85201 and with Karen. Asked if probation there in AZ was the same as it was here in TX, “yes” she told me and then looked up the Court docs for Donavan M Bering DOB 10/24/1962, who is found to be a convicted felon, paying back restitution in the amount of $190.734.59 payable at $100 a month, was sitting everyday in court for the AZ vs Jodi Arias trial and that is against her probation rules. Karen said “yes it is”. Said to me Donavan is in the notes of her probation officer who knows this, and Donavan was NOT in court yesterday, as I thought due to enraging her probation officer to do that. Donavan also asked her probation officer for a “travel voucher”, and she was denied that request to travel. I have her probation officer’s name and cell phone, and I will keep her updated to the ways of which Donavan, is not keeping herself within the rules and confines of her probation. BTW…..Donvavan is now going to go before the court for the Arias trial watching in the gallery, and the phone calls to a convicted felon aka Jodi Arias to get what she wants to tweet for Jodi a convicted felon Donavan cannot be in contact with that violates her 5 yr probation.
Hope what I have done makes you all happy, it did me.”--Ugly Judge

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Post by justanopinion Tue May 21, 2013 7:58 am

carlakay wrote:
Ann - Tx wrote:
Article & videos:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130520jodi-arias-ex-boyfriend-speaks.html
AZCentral - Phoenix, AZ -- Mon May 20, 2013 7:37 PM

Jodi Arias' ex-boyfriend speaks

only read the article cuz too early for me to listen to an idiot speak but the article makes it sound as if DB was robbed of the chance to play hero yesterday...WTH? I thought he hadnt shown up either?


Poor DB, he is deluded... and can not admit to himself that he was able to be snowed; manipulated; lied to... he was close to asking Hodi to marry him!! roflao and I find it very strange that he wouldn't testify on camera but now he is all over the damn TV! Must be really tough for an old man like him to think he failed twice... so now he lies to himself!
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Post by justanopinion Tue May 21, 2013 8:00 am

glazier wrote:And the beauty part of Todays fiasco was the 'Mitigation Specialist' HAS BIILLED THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR 100HOURS @ $100 PER HR!!!
FOR WHAT PRAYTELL??

'Team Hodi' is just delaying the inevitable as long as they can and maybe hope a Juror says or does something wrong...?
I'M PISSED!


well at one point she consoled Jodi and gave her a hug... that would cost more than that for me to have to do!!
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Post by justanopinion Tue May 21, 2013 8:09 am

Pianist wrote:
justanopinion wrote:


I thought (and I could be very wrong) that once she was found guilty of murder that she was removed from the Mormon community... (I am sure that there is a word for this but... I don't have the foggiest what it would be) Laughing

I don't want Jodi to go quietly into the night... I want her kicking and screaming like Travis did. I know that can't happen but in my imagination when that day comes that it is lights out for Jodi... that is what I hope Jodi will have in her mind... Travis' last moments and how she will meet her maker... if it is a vampire or some form of higher power (and by then Jodi may have found a new religion... Church of the Priestess most high comes to mind in her situation.. )

Justanopinion, I used a well known quote to say how she should go from MY life. I agree that SHE should really suffer. I just don't want to be part of it. I hope she disappears from the limelight immediately after getting the DP. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Pianist, actually I should be the one who apologies... playing catch up leaves me with getting all the information in a short time and makes me agitated.. so when I vented using your post I should have been clearer and I apologize for that.. Yes I also want the media skank to disappear from the limelight as well. I enjoy reading your posts as you are very insightful and thought provoking.. Again I apologize as I shot first and thought later.

Side Note: It looks like Jodi is still throwing people under the bus... but I will give Nurmi credit (I have no respect for his chosen field) however, I will say that the man is doing everything by the book and then some to act in a way that leaves room for appeal. He does have skills! disgusts me... but skilled!
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Post by sassy5d Tue May 21, 2013 8:25 am

I feel I am very open minded and give credit where credit is due. IMO, DB appeared fake, scripted. Fb peeps were calling HIM a pedo. I wouldn't go that far but honestly, that was a joke to me.

Guess I should have gone to law school so I better understand things.

I'm not following how a midlife crisis.. Who had a young, good looking girl pleasing him in every way, shape and form equates to awesome. I don't know about skeletons but he was not believeable to me.

I also can't believe the penis picture was admissible when it CLEARLY was not TA.. Forget the nailbeds.. Sadly, TA sprawled out naked self was leaked online n em... The pic with the dirty hands shows a much 'smaller' member than what was leaked online.
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Post by sassy5d Tue May 21, 2013 8:27 am

I was waiting to hear how the Mormon mafia was making the threats too
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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 8:48 am

Well after catching up on the posts I've decided for our dedication that the tittay monster should give back that undeserving $100K to AZ taxpayers for us having to look at her boobs day in and out like they were on a 19 year old when clearly THEY ARE NOT!!!!
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Post by Ann - Tx Tue May 21, 2013 8:55 am


Off-Topic:

Do you believe in seeking and supporting justice for the victims of brutal, horrific crimes?

Do you think serving less than 3 years of a 20 year sentence regarding the brutal, horrific rape and murder of barely 4-year-old Emma Thompson warrants parole for Abigail Young, Emma's mother?

If not, now is your opportunity to write a letter and oppose parole for Abigail Young!
Your letter counts! Help keep Abigail Young in prison where she belongs!


Current deadline for letters opposing Abigail Young's parole:
5/30/13



Please be a voice for precious Emma Thompson and write a letter opposing parole for her mother, Abigail Young.

Serving less than 3 years of a 20 year sentence is NOT justice for Emma Thompson!


If you have limited time, your letter can be as simple as:

"I oppose parole for Abigail Young."


Letters can me mailed, e-mailed or FAX and MUST include Abigail Young's pertinent TDCJ info (hi-lited in blue):

Texas Dept. of Criminal Justice
Victim Services Division
8712 Shoal Creek Blvd., Ste. 265
Austin, TX 78757-6899


Email: victim.svc@tdcj.state.tx.us

Fax: (512) 452-0825

Reference: Young, Abigail
State ID: 08428403
TDCJ ID: 01668233
Placed on Parole Review: 4/30/13



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Emma Thompson
(This was Emma's last Easter. Taken Easter Sunday, 2009 in Brenham, TX)


Thanking you in advance for taking the time to be a voice for Emma Thompson
and oppose parole for her mother, Abigail Young!



http://www.realitychatter.com/t2705-emma-thompson-deceased-6-27-09-thread-1
RC - Emma Thompson -- Deceased 6/27/09 (Thread #1)

http://www.realitychatter.com/t4317-emma-thompson-deceased-6-27-09-thread-2#215484
RC - Emma Thompson -- Deceased 6/27/09 - (Thread #2)




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Post by Weeziethm Tue May 21, 2013 9:06 am

What are the odds that JAA says nothing today. Crickets...with all the chaos yesterday, no mitigation, and a potential for blabby mcStabby to perhaps "zip it", what does that mean for appeals.

Someone upthread said that maybe in HER pea brain that she thinks her best chance is to take DP and then go for appeals. I'm beginning to think that is exactly what the strategy is....

Good luck with that!
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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 9:18 am

In the article about DB it says something about an appeal issue when you can't put on a full mitigation phase like the Dt is saying they can't... Piece work doesn't count, it has to be a full picture and if you can't then there can be an appeal so I think that's KN's angle. I think JA will get up there just because she likes too be the center of attention but the Dt will tell her not to because it will be testimony and used against her next time around...
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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 9:37 am

Bmore wrote:Well after catching up on the posts I've decided for our dedication that the tittay monster should give back that undeserving $100K to AZ taxpayers for us having to look at her boobs day in and out like they were on a 19 year old when clearly THEY ARE NOT!!!!


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Post by carlakay Tue May 21, 2013 9:47 am

altho what Bmore posted about the tittay monster (lol) was funny the fact of the matter is this so called mitagation specialist obviously did NOTHING so wth should the taxpayers foot the bill for her? Pisses me off worse than JW and Nurm..least they have pulled out all stops to defend the undefendable IMO
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Post by Weeziethm Tue May 21, 2013 9:52 am

But just because the DT didn't want to put on a mitigation doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't...right? DB was in a hotel down the street. Poor soul ready to go. 5-6 family members ready to go, if called. Now the DT didn't want to use those folks and as JSS said, we can only speculate. lol. So they claim bias, unfair, prejudicial, boo hoo hoo....but is the legal aspect of this plan going to pass muster?

My understanding of the appeals process is that it is very very very difficult to get a conviction overturned, new trial, etc.


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Post by tesstruhart Tue May 21, 2013 10:05 am

I was wondering what the mit. specialist actually did. Was it her job to provide DT with all sorts of things past and present that would give reasons to spare the life of JA? The fact that she could come up with NOTHING other that she can color within the lines is pitiful. ( I want that job) Will the jury try to come up with one (albeit not enough) reason to find a redeeming quality? I was thinking if I were in this position (just for speculation purposes mind you) who would be there for me. My parents are long gone. I have one sister, she would be there, neices, nephew, my kids, Pastor, friends....there is a list I can count on. I know I have some redeeming qualities (non of which is staying in the lines), how sad that she has No One who will come forward. Since she is calling the shots in this circus, you would think that she would want her mother at least to come forward. It is then that she could muster some real tears and it would be all about her. I suspect she is a bit afraid that mother would either knowingly or unknowinly throw her under the bus. No friends, siblings, Pastor, nobody. that speaks volumes.
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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 10:05 am

carlakay wrote:altho what Bmore posted about the tittay monster (lol) was funny the fact of the matter is this so called mitagation specialist obviously did NOTHING so wth should the taxpayers foot the bill for her? Pisses me off worse than JW and Nurm..least they have pulled out all stops to defend the undefendable IMO


Me too Carla! Holy cow, all that woman did was sit there all day in inappropriate clothing and give JA a hug now and then!

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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 10:08 am

Weeziethm wrote:But just because the DT didn't want to put on a mitigation doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't...right? DB was in a hotel down the street. Poor soul ready to go. 5-6 family members ready to go, if called. Now the DT didn't want to use those folks and as JSS said, we can only speculate. lol. So they claim bias, unfair, prejudicial, boo hoo hoo....but is the legal aspect of this plan going to pass muster?

My understanding of the appeals process is that it is very very very difficult to get a conviction overturned, new trial, etc.

I really don't think we have to worry about an overturned conviction for Jodi. She has the right not to call for any mitigation witnesses if she so chooses. She was checked out by the shrinks and the court did all the right things. She can't call foul on any of this.

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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:12 am

from reading that DB article it made sense to me... JA's family is out of the picture, they have their reasons and aren't an option so we have to leave them out... There was no abuse and they aren't going to lie and say there was and live in the real world getting beat up about it... So with what they could get was Patti, DB and JA... That was they're 3 piece package. My understanding is by appeal rules they don't have to pick and choose their pieces because of upsets, if they can't do it all because something got out of control then it's a mistrial and that's KN's angle , all or nothing. KN seems to think several different things got to PW and that caused her to back out and one of those was JM being mean to her with the truth... Next is the death threats, if they're true then they happened after she would have testified. then came pleading the 5th which would have stopped her testimony anyway... so it seems she voided herself out... I think an appeal could would see it the same way... KN is taking a gamble because he has nothing to begin with so he has nothing to lose, he either wins JA another chance or she stays put... Given what they have to work with, I'm surprised they have anyone to speak in the mitigation phase for JA...
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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:15 am

i think it says alot that JA would much rather roll the dice on her fate then put her family on the stand and have them say she's an effing whackjob...
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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:15 am

double posted.... oops
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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:19 am

do each side get up and talk again after the Dt gets it's sh!t together?
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Post by carlakay Tue May 21, 2013 10:20 am

Bmore wrote:i think it says alot that JA would much rather roll the dice on her fate then put her family on the stand and have them say she's an effing whackjob...

and that is why I still say she is a sociopath
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Post by yellow bike Tue May 21, 2013 10:26 am

tesstruhart wrote:I was wondering what the mit. specialist actually did. Was it her job to provide DT with all sorts of things past and present that would give reasons to spare the life of JA? The fact that she could come up with NOTHING other that she can color within the lines is pitiful. ( I want that job) Will the jury try to come up with one (albeit not enough) reason to find a redeeming quality? I was thinking if I were in this position (just for speculation purposes mind you) who would be there for me. My parents are long gone. I have one sister, she would be there, neices, nephew, my kids, Pastor, friends....there is a list I can count on. I know I have some redeeming qualities (non of which is staying in the lines), how sad that she has No One who will come forward. Since she is calling the shots in this circus, you would think that she would want her mother at least to come forward. It is then that she could muster some real tears and it would be all about her. I suspect she is a bit afraid that mother would either knowingly or unknowinly throw her under the bus. No friends, siblings, Pastor, nobody. that speaks volumes.


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Post by tesstruhart Tue May 21, 2013 10:26 am

Does anyone think she will get up there and ask the jury to give her the death penalty with the idea being she is trying for reverse psychology? She really doesn't get normal thinking so I was wondering if she wants to be the contrite person who says she would prefer death than living any longer in this world.
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Post by yellow bike Tue May 21, 2013 10:27 am

Who thinks Jodi will have a headache, and be feeling unwell today?

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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:28 am

I'm a control freak when it comes to my environment... very OCD like... TP has to be over not under, shampoo on the left, extra pillow case flap folded under (the list is HUGE)... these little things drive me crazy and i will take the time and make sure the things that bother me are correct where I am. I don't go in my kids bathroom or i'll die... lol... I feel stress, uneasy and closterphobic(?)... But you know what... If i was facing her future I think I might suck it up a little and just ask my Mom to be gentle about it... Cause guess what? Dr. D already let us know you have issues and we were told how you acted and saw what you did... we are not blind...
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Post by 18thcenturylady Tue May 21, 2013 10:29 am

I do think Jodi will get up and speak today. I think that Kurt and JW did not want her to, and that is one reason for the motion asking the judge to allow them to withdraw.
I think Jodi will start speaking and ultimately it will degenerate into more blame being heaped on Travis. I think she will refer to him as 'her abuser' just as she did in the interview.
Jodi Arias is a liar to her core. I don't think she can stop herself from painting herself as the victim and even if it costs her her life I think she enjoys the satisfaction of stabbing Travis again metaphorically by trashing and re-trashing his reputation. In her twisted thinking, she sees this as she's winning a victory over mean terrible Travis who rejected her!
I think her defense team knows what is coming and are powerless to stop her.
She may have even reassured them saying she would only say certain things, but we know and THEY KNOW she is lying!

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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:30 am

JM will probably have a copy of her script and will make a note every time she goes off and will question her on it...
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Post by Bmore Tue May 21, 2013 10:31 am

I'm waiting for KN to request a mistrial on the grounds that is client is an idiot... and JSS would say you know legally I can't but personally I completely feel for you... lol
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