Re: Dateline 7/26/10 - Discussion Thread

[Piper]

I am ready to watch Dateline.........

[Snaz]

Use this thread to discuss the Dateline show if you would like to....

[Piper]

Kaine and Desiree are talking about Kyron's birth...

[Piper]

Desiree says Terri wouldn't replace her as a mother...

[Piper]

Desiree's sister talks about Kyron's teeth falling out early, Des talking about all of their summer plans.

[Snaz]

Desiree says Terri wouldn't replace her as a mother...

She sounded a little spiteful when she said that..... God forbid Terri be like a mother to Kyron. But Terri WAS the one raising him day in and day out, regardless of what Desiree wants to NOW say....

[Piper]

Proud morning for Kyron in regards to his exhibit...school bell rang...no time, just a routine part of the day.

[Piper]

He and Terri raced to the school after realizing he wasn't on the bus. Kaine thought it had to be a mistake. The school then called Desiree and told her he was missing. Des called Terri, cussed a little bit and said what the hell is going on?

[Piper]

Something in Desiree's gut told her something wasn't feeling good...

[FystyAngel]

I have to wonder (as I just don't know the answer) but aren't there any camera's at the school? I hope they answer this question for me (or maybe one of you can). I know that our town here is only one square mile & Tasha's school not only has camera's at all of the entrances, but also you must be buzzed in.

Oh, Hi everyone! Sorry, I though I promised Snaz a rest, I had to be here for Kyron & Dateline

[Justice4all]

I have to get to bed soon. I set my DVR to record so I can watch tomorrow.

[Piper]

Kaine found out Kyron was marked absent hours before...

[Piper]

I am recording as well....Desiree said she told Terri she would be there in 4 and half hours or so...and she said Terri acted like...why?

[Piper]

Tony says he noticed Terri bristled at the idea of being questioned...

[FystyAngel]

I don't get why Terri would even question his bio mom coming right away. ???

[Piper]

Gina Zimmerman, PTO Pres, said Kyron would not have left to wander around...

[Snaz]

I have to wonder (as I just don't know the answer) but aren't there any camera's at the school? I hope they answer this question for me (or maybe one of you can). I know that our town here is only one square mile & Tasha's school not only has camera's at all of the entrances, but also you must be buzzed in.

Oh, Hi everyone! Sorry, I though I promised Snaz a rest, I had to be here for Kyron & Dateline

It's ok, Fysty... as long as you are RESTING while you watch.....

[Snaz]

I believe Terri's comment about the authorities being aggressive and trying to rattle her..... wonder why no one ever talks about that stuff?

[Piper]

The unified front....Desiree says it seemed strange for your ex's new wife to be comforting her...

[Snaz]

The unified front....Desiree says it seemed strange for your ex's new wife to be comforting her...

And caress her.... I didn't see Terri caressing her...

[Piper]

Hey Fysty! I hope you are feeling better!

No cameras at the school...

[FystyAngel]

Eight doors & no camera's. I find that odd but at least now I know.

[Piper]

In Des/Tony's house..........the boys shared bunkbeds in a bedroom. Kyron has an unmade bed, Batman...

[FystyAngel]

Anyone know WHY Kyron lived with his dad?

[Piper]

Being Des older son and Kyron, shared a room when he visited...Kyron had the lower bunk.

[Piper]

Ohhh.......Kaine wasn't faithful.....when Des was pregnant in 2002...

[Piper]

...."Des' kidneys were failing, gave Kaine temp custody of Kyron....besides the anguish Terri had caused in the past, she felt it was better for Kyron with her being sick.

[FystyAngel]

Wow, I'm glad I'm getting to watch this. I have been following the case but not as closely as I would have liked. I'm getting a lot more answers from this.

[Calypso]

I am recording as well....Desiree said she told Terri she would be there in 4 and half hours or so...and she said Terri acted like...why?

Why?

Well, since Terri was Kyron's primary caretaker all these years, and did the driving to and from, so Dez could visit with Kyron, I guess I'd ask "Why". Apparently, this gives us a little of Terri's perspective, Dez does not appear to be much of a mother, and I'll bet my 2 cents it was said sarcastically.

[Piper]

Tony and Des are convinced that Terri is responsible...

[sitemama]

We know Kyron stayed with Dez, I think they said every other week-end. He was supposed to go there Friday, June 4th. So that means he had not slept in that bed since Saturday, May 22nd. I would have been ashamed to show his room and admit I had not made his bed since the last time he was there. Is she just lazy, or lazy and stupid???? Who does laundry and doesn't put it away for 2 weeks? Why weren't his toys picked up before he left to go back home? Maybe she doesn't require him to pick up after himself. Maybe that's why he didn't want to go to his home, I'm sure his Dad made him pick up his toys.

[Piper]

Gym owner states Terri showed up and asked if Kaine was there, and Kiara. He said Terri told him if Kiara was there, she would take her...

[Calypso]

This incident occured prior the divorce papers and RO being served.

[sitemama]

Dez isn't telling the whole story. Terri showed up at the gym on Monday, before the RO was served on her. Kaine had just taken Kiara and left their house. Terri had as much right to Kiara as Kaine did.

[Calypso]

How's that saying go?

"One swears and the other one lies to it"

[LottieM]

Oh crap! I forgot to watch! But from the sound of it, seems like just another bashing of Terri good times for Dez and Kaine.

So Kaine cheated on Dez....then he cheated on Terri.....good lord, that's at least 4 women who fell for him....you'd think he was good looking or something. Ok sorry to be catty....

[FystyAngel]

The new STD State

[LottieM]

...."Des' kidneys were failing, gave Kaine temp custody of Kyron....besides the anguish Terri had caused in the past, she felt it was better for Kyron with her being sick.

I wonder if we have the whole story of Dez's kidneys....she had kidney issues (failing?) which means dialysis or a transplant...she goes to Canada for her kidney issue....she could get dialysis in the USA all day long, but not a transplant as easily as in Canada...so did she get a kidney transplant in Canada? I've researched the cost and it IS about the same as the bill she said she ran up....about $30,000.

Enter Dez's letter to Kyron....at the end she says "You saved my life a long time ago...." Did she take a kidney from baby Kyron? (It's been done before, Ladies and Gentlemen!) So....Inquiring minds want to know.

Kyron didn't go live with Kaine until he was about a year and a half old. I thought Dez went to Canada when Kyron was just a few months old and when she came back Kyron was with her and her parents. What's the true timeline on this?

Was there any discussion on Dateline about Dez's kidney situation?

[LottieM]

How's that saying go?

"One swears and the other one lies to it"

Probably not sarcasm Calypso! Probably true!

[LottieM]

We know Kyron stayed with Dez, I think they said every other week-end. He was supposed to go there Friday, June 4th. So that means he had not slept in that bed since Saturday, May 22nd. I would have been ashamed to show his room and admit I had not made his bed since the last time he was there. Is she just lazy, or lazy and stupid???? Who does laundry and doesn't put it away for 2 weeks? Why weren't his toys picked up before he left to go back home? Maybe she doesn't require him to pick up after himself. Maybe that's why he didn't want to go to his home, I'm sure his Dad made him pick up his toys.

One word....STAGED!

[Piper]

Does Dez older son live with her full time? Or does she just have visitation rights with him as well? I realize this has nothing to do with Kyron missing, I'm just curious....
His bed is the top bunk....

[Calypso]

We've researched this one before.

When you have a transplant in Canada, you have to live in close proximity to the hospital for 6 months as you have to see the Dr. two times a week and you are on medication anti-rejection meds.

Also, in Canada, the donor has to be the of age consent.

Some places in Canada state that age is 16yrs, others 17yrs, 18yrs, 19yrs. If the donor doesnt understand the possible risks involved in donating, they cannot be a donor.

[Calypso]

Does Dez older son live with her full time? Or does she just have visitation rights with him as well? I realize this has nothing to do with Kyron missing, I'm just curious....
His bed is the top bunk....

Very good question. Have no answer.

[LottieM]

He and Terri raced to the school after realizing he wasn't on the bus. Kaine thought it had to be a mistake. The school then called Desiree and told her he was missing. Des called Terri, cussed a little bit and said what the hell is going on?

I hate my own guts for missing this show!

Did Kaine say he thought it had to be a 'mistake'?

What sort of mistake is it when your kid isn't on the bus and no one knows where he is? In essence, Kaine is saying he didn't think for one second Kyron had been kidnapped? Sorry, but that would have been my very first FEAR....and my HOPE would have been he had gotten on the wrong bus or just missed it and was wandering around the school somewhere. But since they told Kaine and Terri that Kyron had been marked absent, what 'mistake' is that?...other than Kyron had been abducted, where is the mistake? Was Kaine meaning he thought it was a 'mistake' that Kyron had been marked absent?

[LottieM]

We've researched this one before.

When you have a transplant in Canada, you have to live in close proximity to the hospital for 6 months as you have to see the Dr. two times a week and you are on medication anti-rejection meds.

Also, in Canada, the donor has to be the of age consent.

Some places in Canada state that age is 16yrs, others 17yrs, 18yrs, 19yrs. If the donor doesnt understand the possible risks involved in donating, they cannot be a donor.

I've researched this too, and it's late so I can't go find it again tonight, but a parent CAN take the kidney of their own baby if they so choose....in the right places.

[LottieM]

Does Dez older son live with her full time? Or does she just have visitation rights with him as well? I realize this has nothing to do with Kyron missing, I'm just curious....
His bed is the top bunk....

Very good question. Have no answer.

Dez's older son did not live with her full time, just like Kyron didn't.

[Piper]

Lottie...your new avatar is killing me!

[Snaz]

Please continue your discussion on the regular Kyron thread.

Thanks!

http://www.realitychatter.com/kyron-horman-f70/kyron-horman-missing-6-4-10-2-t2560.htm

[LottieM]

He and Terri raced to the school after realizing he wasn't on the bus. Kaine thought it had to be a mistake. The school then called Desiree and told her he was missing. Des called Terri, cussed a little bit and said what the hell is going on?

This part bothers me....I don't know why the school would call Dez if Kaine and Terri - who were the ones expecting Kyron when he didn't show up- were standing right there. I mean, why call someone who wasn't expecting him in the first place?

I can see Kaine or Terri informing Dez...but not the school doing it.

And then Dez didn't want to discuss it with the school anyhow..she calls Terri, knowing Terri is standing right there and could have had the school phone passed to her. And she sets about berating Terri! I don't know why Dez thought it was important to announce on Dateline that she berated Terri....it's irrelevant to the case at that point...so it must have been relevant to Dez at the time and she continues to be proud of it enough to state it on Dateline.

I'm really wondering if the school called Dez just to see if she had Kyron for some reason...just to rule out that he was not with any family before they started looking for him elsewhere. The fact that Dez wants the world via Dateline to know she was irate with Terri from the start is mind boggling.

[sitemama]

Lottie, I disagree with you about the phone call from the school. If her name is on the list to contact in case of an emergency, then the school does have to call her. Even if Terri or Kaine had called, the school would still have to call her also.

But, what I don't understand is why did she call Terri back, and not Kaine?????? I'm sure she got real ugly with Terri, sounding a lot like Ronald Cummings to Misty that fateful morning in Satsuma. Explain to me why bio-parents, can get away acting like this toward the step-mom, even thought the step is the one taking care of the child 90% of the time. Is that how they get the name 'step', because everyone walks all over them?

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