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Post by snowbird Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:37 am

Chickenbutt wrote:Or it's just one sick puppy who thinks it's funny.
Agree it could be, but if they can't find out who it is or why they have done this it will give his defense what they need when he goes to court.

The police when he was arrest stated that one of the reasons they believe she was dead was because she has made no communications and she was a social person. Now we have a communication on the website, therefore it gives the defense what they need.
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Post by Chickenbutt Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:48 am

I don't disagree with you Snow, its just that I doubt it is someone with ulterior motives. I think it is just someone goofing around (in his/her mind) and without even trying has given the defense something to use at trial.
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Post by Honeysage Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:58 am

http://twitter.com/#!/MikhailDaPrince

Chelsea Hoffman ‏@TheRealChelseaH
@keithlamar this id is the idiot who hoaxed Sierra's FB account that was in the news. @MikhailDaPrince

Keith LaMar ‏@keithlamar
@MikhailDaPrince What's your deal? Did you actually think that was funny? @TheRealChelseaH outed you.

interesting conversation here-this appear to be the person who hacked Sierra's account and Chelsea Hoffman will be doing a write up and the person is not happy about it

they also have this new page, other support page was shut down

https://www.facebook.com/AntolinGarciaTorres
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ETA: http://twitter.com/#!/TheRealChelseaH (Chelsea Hoffman twitter feed)
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Post by Honeysage Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:37 pm

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981418075[url][/url]
Sierra LaMar: Who Hoaxed Her Facebook?

not much more info than the twitter messages going back and forth i posted earlier, which were probably shut down but Chelsea has a screenshot in the article
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Post by Lash Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:21 pm

Honey- Thank you for posting the Twitter info. I went to Twitter and his account is basically blank now. I just viewed the screenshot Chelsea snagged. Sick! He has the nerve to say "all we did". Really? Where do these people come from...
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Post by Honeysage Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:28 pm

Lash wrote:Honey- Thank you for posting the Twitter info. I went to Twitter and his account is basically blank now. I just viewed the screenshot Chelsea snagged. Sick! He has the nerve to say "all we did". Really? Where do these people come from...

there have been so many twitter accounts open and closed...i would not doubt it's the same few people doing it, they have even verbally attacked members at Websleuths so they are reading around forums-
ssshhh...be vewwy qwiet-and they won't find us dancing
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Post by snowbird Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:55 pm

Honeysage wrote:http://twitter.com/#!/MikhailDaPrince

Chelsea Hoffman ‏@TheRealChelseaH
@keithlamar this id is the idiot who hoaxed Sierra's FB account that was in the news. @MikhailDaPrince

Keith LaMar ‏@keithlamar
@MikhailDaPrince What's your deal? Did you actually think that was funny? @TheRealChelseaH outed you.

interesting conversation here-this appear to be the person who hacked Sierra's account and Chelsea Hoffman will be doing a write up and the person is not happy about it

they also have this new page, other support page was shut down

https://www.facebook.com/AntolinGarciaTorres
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ETA: http://twitter.com/#!/TheRealChelseaH (Chelsea Hoffman twitter feed)
Who is Chelsea Hoffman and MikhailDePrice?
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Post by Honeysage Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:21 pm

snowbird wrote:
Honeysage wrote:http://twitter.com/#!/MikhailDaPrince





interesting conversation here-this appear to be the person who hacked Sierra's account and Chelsea Hoffman will be doing a write up and the person is not happy about it

they also have this new page, other support page was shut down

https://www.facebook.com/AntolinGarciaTorres
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ETA: http://twitter.com/#!/TheRealChelseaH (Chelsea Hoffman twitter feed)
Who is Chelsea Hoffman and MikhailDePrice?

Chelsea Hoffman writes for Gather.com and the other person is a made up persona twitter account that has been accused of causing some trouble with fake twitter and facebook accounts-adding unnecessary drama.
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Post by snowbird Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:01 pm

so they don't know who the person real name of who is doing post?
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Post by Honeysage Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:38 pm

snowbird wrote:so they don't know who the person real name of who is doing post?

no...not yet. they are going to have a new computer task force to help with whoever hacked into Sierra's account-but they can't really stop people from making twitter and facebook pages, real or not...but hacking into someone's acct is a crime.
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Post by Tbrownsanjo Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:48 pm

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcvWJ7RvX3TI%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player&feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cvWJ7RvX3TI&gl=US.

Great you tube video!
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Post by Honeysage Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:05 am

Tbrownsanjo wrote:http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcvWJ7RvX3TI%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player&feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cvWJ7RvX3TI&gl=US.

Great you tube video!

i couldn't get that one to open here is another link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvWJ7RvX3TI&list=UUmmGvK4aMnbrk2lk8yzrc4Q&index=1&feature=plcp
Help Us Find Sierra Lamar
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Post by Tbrownsanjo Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:09 am

On numerous occasions I and other Sierra Lamar case followers have witnessed this on twitter and fb this sick person or persons comments about what he has done to her and other disturbing comments concerning her or any part of the case including Agts actions and I could go on for days. I have been sending this stuff to law enforcement since may 23. I have been called a snitch, bitch, race trader and all sorts of things when I have come into contact with him them or whomever they are! And i dont care. I am not the only one that has been sending this stuff in so I'm pretty sure the tip line has been overwhelmed with all of us and probably was already watching!
I'm glad they have called in react because it needs to stop! They are predators and as far as I'm concerned just as bad as child predators being on the net!
Whomever they are they will continue to watch this site and any other site concerning sierra and will wreak havoc again until they are stopped! FIND SIERRA
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Post by Lash Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:38 pm

6/18/12 Hoax posts from Facebook -
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Photo credit crankycrankerson

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Post by Lash Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:59 am

Reporter talks to water search team. ETA, video also includes information on a search today of a lake which will include search dogs. I could not interpret the name of the lake.

Sierra Lamar investigators use advanced sonar technology
UPDATED 6:29 PM PDT Jun 21, 2012

Video @ Link- http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/hollister-gilroy/Sierra-Lamar-investigators-use-advanced-sonar-technology/-/5738758/15202464/-/111665l/-/index.html


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Post by snowbird Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:06 am

Tbrownsanjo wrote:On numerous occasions I and other Sierra Lamar case followers have witnessed this on twitter and fb this sick person or persons comments about what he has done to her and other disturbing comments concerning her or any part of the case including Agts actions and I could go on for days. I have been sending this stuff to law enforcement since may 23. I have been called a snitch, bitch, race trader and all sorts of things when I have come into contact with him them or whomever they are! And i dont care. I am not the only one that has been sending this stuff in so I'm pretty sure the tip line has been overwhelmed with all of us and probably was already watching!
I'm glad they have called in react because it needs to stop! They are predators and as far as I'm concerned just as bad as child predators being on the net!
Whomever they are they will continue to watch this site and any other site concerning sierra and will wreak havoc again until they are stopped! FIND SIERRA
I hope these sick people are got and changed with interfering in a criminal investigation and anything else they can pile on. Good for you in turning over this kind of BS.
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Post by Lash Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:32 am

Snowbird - Hopefully with REACT joining the investigation and the possibility of facing criminal charges this will start to detour them.

High-Tech Task Force to Investigate Sierra LaMar Facebook Posts-
http://unioncity.patch.com/articles/high-tech-task-force-to-investigate-sierra-lamar-facebook-posts

Snipped- Impersonating someone through a social media website is a misdemeanor under California penal code 528.5. General misdemeanors usually carry a punishment of no more than six months in jail or a fine of one thousand dollars, but Cardoza said he doesn’t know if the incidents would qualify as a general misdemeanor.  

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Post by kimi_SFC Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:07 pm

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#FINDSIERRA
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Post by Honeysage Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:27 pm

thank you for that Kimi...so beautiful. i just finished reading Lovely Bones and it reminded me so much of Sierra (and others), made me real sad.
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Post by kimi_SFC Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:37 pm

This was made by a Facebook friend named Tracey. She asked me to share it, and I ask y'all to do the same.
I should have mentioned her in the OP (my bad).

Lovely Bones is on my "To Read" list. I don't know if my heart can take it, though.

Sad
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Post by Freckles Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:29 am

Please copy this site for your own personal use.
I stumbled on this and did not know where to put this so putting it here.

This is how to prepare a cold case, investigate it, etc.

http://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/preparing-a-cold-case

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Post by Tbrownsanjo Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:06 am

http://www.scscourt.org/general_info/news_media/garcia-torres.shtml

Court info on Antolin Garcia Torres in depth!
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Post by Tamta Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:32 am

Tbrownsanjo wrote:http://www.scscourt.org/general_info/news_media/garcia-torres.shtml

Court info on Antolin Garcia Torres in depth!

Where is the Statement of Probable Cause?
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:09 am

Tamta wrote:
Tbrownsanjo wrote:http://www.scscourt.org/general_info/news_media/garcia-torres.shtml

Court info on Antolin Garcia Torres in depth!

Where is the Statement of Probable Cause?

STATEMENTS OF FACTS

http://www.scscourt.org/general_info/news_media/newspdfs/GT_Statement_of_Facts.pdf
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Post by Tamta Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:16 am

Alessandra_Deux wrote:
Tamta wrote:

Where is the Statement of Probable Cause?

STATEMENTS OF FACTS

http://www.scscourt.org/general_info/news_media/newspdfs/GT_Statement_of_Facts.pdf

Thanks.

That's the Statement of Facts.
It's the narrative of facts for a civil case.

This is a criminal case.
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Post by Tamta Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:19 am

Maybe they called it in and the authorization to arrest was given over the phone.

However why haven't they filed the SOPC yet?

It's been awhile.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:40 am

Tamta wrote:
Alessandra_Deux wrote:

STATEMENTS OF FACTS

http://www.scscourt.org/general_info/news_media/newspdfs/GT_Statement_of_Facts.pdf

Thanks.

That's the Statement of Facts.
It's the narrative of facts for a civil case.

This is a criminal case.

An affidavit is a written statement of facts, it is used in both, criminal and civil cases.

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Post by Tamta Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:25 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:
Tamta wrote:

Thanks.

That's the Statement of Facts.
It's the narrative of facts for a civil case.

This is a criminal case.

An affidavit is a written statement of facts, it is used in both, criminal and civil cases.


They are clearly not breaking protocol, however my main point being is that there are no public record of the facts before the court that were used to base the DA's theory of probably cause to justify Garcia's arrest.

Nothing by the state that specifies motive or opportunity-

Or even specific facts that a crime was committed.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:39 pm

Tamta wrote:
Alessandra_Deux wrote:

An affidavit is a written statement of facts, it is used in both, criminal and civil cases.


They are clearly not breaking protocol, however my main point being is that there are no public record of the facts before the court that were used to base the DA's theory of probably cause to justify Garcia's arrest.

Nothing by the state that specifies motive or opportunity-

Or even specific facts that a crime was committed.

I understand. We haven't seen any court documents other than the statements of facts and the complaint against Antolin Garcia, nothing else has been released. I guess we are going to have to wait and see what kind of evidence the prosecution is planning to use against him.
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Post by Lash Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:19 am

Marlene LaMar Offers Tips to Help in Search for Sierra From Afar
By Michelle Fitzsimmons - June 25, 2012

Snipped -

For individuals living outside of South County, Marlene has provided the below list of suggestions detailing the different ways to contribute to her daughter's recovery.

•Search local creek areas, parks and other land where you live, especially near bodies of water since Garcia-Torres is a fisherman and he may be familiar with far-away waterways.
•Increase awareness where you live by telling people you know about Sierra's case, posting her picture on your social media accounts, etc.
•Be on the lookout for her and for any evidence you think may be related to her disappearance.
•Post on your social media accounts that the search center remains open every Wednesday and Saturday. Let people know that Wednesday searches are happening mostly in the morning and aren't likely to continue the entire day, and that Saturday searches are last throughout the day.
•Purchase t-shirts, buttons and car magnets from the search center to be distributed where you live. T-shirts and magnets are being sold for $10 and buttons for a cheaper price. Funds raised from the sale of these items go toward the Sierra LaMar Fund.

More @ Link- http://losaltos.patch.com/articles/ways-to-help-search-remotely-for-sierra-lamar

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Post by Honeysage Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:37 am

http://100.42.52.148/~klaaskid/blog/?p=353
Sierra LaMar: Anatomy of a Search Day 80

These Internet hoaxes are the product of a malicious, weak mind. They bring a degree of shame on a community that has otherwise responded magnificently to the plight of a child who found comfort and delight in the very social media communities that now seem to conspire against her.

more at link
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Post by Lash Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:39 pm

Honeysage- Interesting anatomy/analogy of Day 80. It was heart wrenching. In many ways Polly and Sierra's cases mirror each other. Mark's out cry in the parking lot was so descriptive you could almost feel his pain. His words allowed me to see much more into just how cruel and mind torturing the false hope these pranks bring to the victims families. I pray for Sierra's family that these pranks will stop!

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Post by justanopinion Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:08 am

http://losaltos.patch.com/articles/divers-search-reservoirs-again-for-sierra-lamar-61506d7d

posted 2 days ago that the LE are again and continuing to search bodies of water near where items belonging to Sierra were found.

Prayers that Sierra is found soon.
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Post by nanaof4 Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:13 pm

justanopinion wrote:http://losaltos.patch.com/articles/divers-search-reservoirs-again-for-sierra-lamar-61506d7d

posted 2 days ago that the LE are again and continuing to search bodies of water near where items belonging to Sierra were found.

Prayers that Sierra is found soon.

I hope she is found soon, too. Personnally, I think her cell phone was discarded immediately, she was taken somewhere else and killed, and then her stuff was placed by the shed on the perps way back home. I am curious why LE is only searching in bodies of water. If this was a crime of opportunity, I doubt he was prepared to weigh down a body and submerge in water. I think she was dumped in a wooded area. But that is JMO.

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Post by Tamta Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:27 am

Volunteers needed Saturday in search for Sierra LaMar

Volunteers are urged to join the search for Sierra LaMar or any evidence pointing to her whereabouts Saturday.

http://www.gilroydispatch.com/articles_from_morgan_hill/volunteers-needed-saturday-in-search-for-sierra-lamar/article_d3c03160-e86f-597e-bf62-e798215ea334.html
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Post by Tamta Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:32 am

Marlene LaMar Offers Tips to Help in Search for Sierra From Afar

For individuals living outside of South County, Marlene has provided the below list of suggestions detailing the different ways to contribute to her daughter's recovery.

Search local creek areas, parks and other land where you live, especially near bodies of water since Garcia-Torres is a fisherman and he may be familiar with far-away waterways.
Increase awareness where you live by telling people you know about Sierra's case, posting her picture on your social media accounts, etc.
Be on the lookout for her and for any evidence you think may be related to her disappearance.
Post on your social media accounts that the search center remains open every Wednesday and Saturday. Let people know that Wednesday searches are happening mostly in the morning and aren't likely to continue the entire day, and that Saturday searches are last throughout the day.
Purchase t-shirts, buttons and car magnets from the search center to be distributed where you live. T-shirts and magnets are being sold for $10 and buttons for a cheaper price. Funds raised from the sale of these items go toward the Sierra LaMar Fund.


http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/ways-to-help-search-remotely-for-sierra-lamar
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Post by Tamta Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:35 am

http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/lamar-family-reacts-to-suspect-s-arrest


LaMar Family: We Need Justice


According to Smith, based off of evidence law enforcement agencies have gathered from the suspect's vehicle and the continued belief that Sierra is not a runaway candidate, investigators do not believe Sierra is alive.

The LaMar family remains hopeful that she is.

"I'm hopeful that because her body has not been found and because certain things weren't found in the vehicle," Marlene LaMar said during the press conference.

Smith said that forensic results have linked Sierra's DNA to the suspect's vehicle, a red Volkswagon police impounded in April, though she would not say what kind of DNA was found nor where it was located on the vehicle.


Am I the only person in the world who missed this article?
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Post by justanopinion Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:39 pm

Tamta wrote:http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/lamar-family-reacts-to-suspect-s-arrest


LaMar Family: We Need Justice


According to Smith, based off of evidence law enforcement agencies have gathered from the suspect's vehicle and the continued belief that Sierra is not a runaway candidate, investigators do not believe Sierra is alive.

The LaMar family remains hopeful that she is.

"I'm hopeful that because her body has not been found and because certain things weren't found in the vehicle," Marlene LaMar said during the press conference.

Smith said that forensic results have linked Sierra's DNA to the suspect's vehicle, a red Volkswagon police impounded in April, though she would not say what kind of DNA was found nor where it was located on the vehicle.


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I really don't know what to make of that article!! hMMMMM

LE what was found leads them to believe she is not alive...
Lamar family - what wasn't found makes them believe she is!!

no one saying what kind of DNA (specimen of what) or where found!
Just so many ways to speculate about what it all means... Laughing
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Post by Honeysage Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:26 pm

http://100.42.52.148/~klaaskid/blog/?p=356
Sierra LaMar: Anatomy of a Search Day 84

Why do certain volunteers return time after time? In their own words.

(article consists of various quotes from volunteers)
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Post by Honeysage Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:06 pm

http://100.42.52.148/~klaaskid/blog/?p=370
Sierra LaMar: Anatomy of a Search Day 85

Sierra’s volunteers received training on how to spot and what to do in the event that they stumbled upon a marijuana grove.
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more at link....living in Northern California i can tell you this a reality when hiking and can be very dangerous if the growers happen to be on scene-
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Post by justanopinion Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:09 am

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981450344

No searches on July 4th for Sierra.
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Post by Ann - Tx Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:35 am


http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Filmmaker-Creates-Sierra-LaMar-Documentary-161374515.html
KNTV - San Jose, CA -- 7/4/12

Filmmaker Creates Sierra LaMar Documentary
The documentary also aims to raise money for Sierra LaMar's search.


View more videos at: http://nbcbayarea.com.


Click to play
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Help Us Find Sierra LaMar Part 1


Published on Jun 20, 2012 by DJRECKID408

Click to play

Please help us by re-posting this video on facebook, twitter, email to friends and family!

Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvWJ7RvX3TI&feature=youtu.be
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Help Us Find Sierra LaMar Part 2


Published on Jul 2, 2012 by DJRECKID408

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Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3o-FkyGtn0&feature=youtu.be
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Post by Tbrownsanjo Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:34 pm

This is sad

http://www.mercurynews.com/sierra-lamar/ci_20778449/sierra-lamar-case-last-scheduled-water-search-set?refresh=no&webredirect=&stopvalue=&stopparam=
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Post by Lash Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:05 am

Car wash is raising funds for Sierra LaMar search
Saturday, July 07, 2012

MORGAN HILL, Calif. -- Volunteers who are still trying to find missing Morgan Hill teenager Sierra LaMar are having a car wash today to raise funds so they can continue searching for her.

Snipped - Volunteer Tammy Daly said the car wash is a way for young teens to get involved in the search for Sierra, as people under the age of 18 aren't allowed to participate in the searches.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=8728345
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Post by Lash Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:21 pm

Sierra LaMar: Anatomy of a Search Day 91
Posted on July 11, 2012 at 12:00 pm

Car wash baby!!! Last Saturday the Sierra Search Center better resembled the Sierra social center. We had 70 search volunteers sign up to find Sierra. They ate a good nutritious breakfast and set out in the rapidly warming day to see if they could finally crack this case. For all intents and purposes, it was shaping up as another routine day in the search for the missing teenage girl whose pretty, smiling face looks back at us from virtually every telephone pole and storefront window in Morgan Hill.

More @ Link-

http://unioncity.patch.com/blog_posts/sierra-lamar-anatomy-of-a-search-day-91
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Post by Tamta Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:34 am

Child abductions from homes 'exceptionally' rare, expert says

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-"We do see them from time to time, but they are exceptionally rare," said Bob Lowery, executive director of the Virginia-based center's missing child division.

"We have the expectation that when we are at home, we are safe," he said. "This is a different kind of predator that will engage in something that high-risk because of the motivation for what he wants to do with that child."

-Lowery said the national center finds that more assertive children get away from their abductors by kicking and screaming.



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865558906/Child-abductions-from-homes-exceptionally-rare-expert-says.html?pg=all
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Post by Tamta Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:46 am

Father Of Suspect In Sierra LaMar Case Faces Sexual Assault Charges


http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/07/11/father-of-suspect-in-sierra-lamar-case-faces-sexual-assault-charges/
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Post by Tamta Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:50 am

Torres' father held to answer for child molestation, rape


http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=8733195
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Post by Tamta Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:58 am

KlaasKids Foundation to Host Print-A-Thon Saturday

@Burnett Elementary School


-KlaasKids founder Marc Klaas said children will be fingerprinted and given a digital identification document with their photo on it, as well as a take-home DNA kit and a nine-point emergency plan for parents on what to do if their child goes missing.

-Klaas said the foundation has been hosting the print-a-thon program for 18 years, and has fingerprinted more than one million children around the country.

-The program utilizes imaging systems originally developed for federal law enforcement agencies by Sentry Technology that integrate digitized computer technology to fingerprint and photograph children quickly without ink or film.

http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/klasskids-foundation-to-host-print-a-thon-saturday
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:21 am

Father Of Suspect In Sierra LaMar Case Faces Sexual Assault Charges

July 11, 2012 8:30 PM

GILROY (KCBS) — The father of the man charged in the disappearance of Morgan Hill teen Sierra LaMar has been ordered to stand trial on multiple sexual assault charges.

An investigator with the Santa Clara County Sexual Crimes Unit told KCBS that a judge ordered 51-year-old Genaro Garcia Fernandez to stand trial on charges he molested his daughter over a nine-year period.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/07/11/father-of-suspect-in-sierra-lamar-case-faces-sexual-assault-charges/
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