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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:29 pm

Is JW going to ask her ANY question outside of trying to drill her on her qualifications?

Get on the ball.

JS is again boring the jury, Judge! Sleep
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Post by Bo Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:30 pm

I'm surprised she didn't ask her "Do you have memory problems??"

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:31 pm

Bo wrote:carlakay....she(JW) reminds me of a dog trying to bite this witness...but the witness keeps pushing the shock collar button on her...LOL
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Post by justanopinion Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:32 pm

I am impressed JW is actually looking like she learned something from JM... her questions are hitting the mark...

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Post by Bo Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:35 pm

Freckles.... Very Happy

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:36 pm

End of court until 9:30 tomorrow.
JA gave several ugly eyes to the witness.
When JW returned to table, JA immediately started chit-chat and all stupid.
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Post by Bo Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:37 pm

I seen that Freckles....

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:37 pm

They are replaying!
This is a hint of what Juan is reviewing for tomorrow...
Love it!
Review of fight/flight and memory...


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Post by Mari 68 Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:37 pm

Bo wrote:I'm surprised she didn't ask her "Do you have memory problems??"


While that was funny when it happened, it just doesn't feel "right".

The defense really has no case whatsoever. They just don't. They never did.

Objections and whining is all they can do at this point.
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Post by Bo Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:38 pm

She getting the Green Eyed monster syndrome...the jury might (LOL)definitely!!! like the witness more than her...

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:39 pm

justanopinion wrote:I am impressed JW is actually looking like she learned something from JM... her questions are hitting the mark...

She is picking up on her court protocol but she will never get to be Juan.
She should focus on her case law.
JA is going down.
She should be preparing for the punishment phase, imo.
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Post by Bo Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:39 pm

agree Mari 68

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:44 pm

Disassociation is developed over time from trauma.
It is a coping mechanisms.
Rarely seen because it is severe trauma.
Dissociative amnesia develops over time.
Did not see this in JA.
This does not come and go in four hours.

Killing: Being involved in a killing could cause memory loss.JA however, did not have the pattern of what is typically seen. Overall time, a person would remember more, not recall less.
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:45 pm

I think it's funny how Dr. D keeps trying to hold in the laugh while explaining to JW for the millionth time what order the practice, masters, doctrine, etc. goes in... lol
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:47 pm

if nothing else she explained about DB's exwife, and other mimicking behavior from ex-boyfriends... Behavior that we weren't told about before.
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Post by Bo Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:49 pm

Bmore...i must have missed that about DB's ex-wife...
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....

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Post by Mari 68 Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:55 pm

Bo wrote:Bmore...i must have missed that about DB's ex-wife...
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....


I thought we DID hear something like this before.

Didn't DB say something like Jodi was always trying to fit in with others - changing her looks, behavior, etc.


something like that
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:59 pm

maybe he did, I listened to part of his testimony, he came across as a dick to me...
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:04 pm

I listened to the last 20 minutes or so on my phone. It seems to me, that this witness will give you a straight answer. JW is trying to make is seem as though she was being difficult, but she wasn't. I was really glad to hear her stop at the bachelor's though. I thought we might have gone back to her HS days. This just serves to drive home the point that this lady has a lot of education.
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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:13 pm

tesstruhart wrote:I listened to the last 20 minutes or so on my phone. It seems to me, that this witness will give you a straight answer. JW is trying to make is seem as though she was being difficult, but she wasn't. I was really glad to hear her stop at the bachelor's though. I thought we might have gone back to her HS days. This just serves to drive home the point that this lady has a lot of education.


Just curious... where/how are you listening through your phone? I always leave work before the session ends and would love to do this on the way home!

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:16 pm

Bmore wrote:if nothing else she explained about DB's exwife, and other mimicking behavior from ex-boyfriends... Behavior that we weren't told about before.
That was rather interesting, wasn't it?
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:18 pm

Bo wrote:Bmore...i must have missed that about DB's ex-wife...
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....
Witness said JA told her she tried to do her hair like DB's ex-wife.
(Or did witness read it in the journal?? )
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:07 pm

gsweater wrote:
tesstruhart wrote:I listened to the last 20 minutes or so on my phone. It seems to me, that this witness will give you a straight answer. JW is trying to make is seem as though she was being difficult, but she wasn't. I was really glad to hear her stop at the bachelor's though. I thought we might have gone back to her HS days. This just serves to drive home the point that this lady has a lot of education.


Just curious... where/how are you listening through your phone? I always leave work before the session ends and would love to do this on the way home!

I have Iphone 5. I down loaded az 3tv news and on there is a live video link that I push and voila...I have video and audio. Obviously, while driving I cannot watch the video so I just listen. Its a free app so just download it and if the trial is on, you can connect
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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:14 pm

tesstruhart wrote:
gsweater wrote:

Just curious... where/how are you listening through your phone? I always leave work before the session ends and would love to do this on the way home!

I have Iphone 5. I down loaded az 3tv news and on there is a live video link that I push and voila...I have video and audio. Obviously, while driving I cannot watch the video so I just listen. Its a free app so just download it and if the trial is on, you can connect

Thanks for the info, but BAH!!! I have Galaxy S3. If only Google didn't decide to not support Flash in Jellybean OS. I'll figure another way out I'm sure. By then, the trial will be over at the rate the rebuttal is going :P

Edit: Didn't realize you were talking of app. Appears it will work on Android! bounce

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Post by yellow bike Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:20 pm

I missed most of today. Did we ever find out what ALV had to return to court for?

I am liking this witness, she is a professional! JA must be real unhappy with her.

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Post by tesstruhart Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:27 pm

yellow bike wrote:I missed most of today. Did we ever find out what ALV had to return to court for?

I am liking this witness, she is a professional! JA must be real unhappy with her.
Not sure what it was about, but, it appears that it will be sealed until after trial is over. This witness is awesome. JW is getting swatted around like a mosquito.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:32 pm

April 16, 2013

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 1 (Rebuttal Starts)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETPGRNVyhM


Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 2



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af4izJggg2Y


Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 3



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaUBxyzt7jQ


Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8V0W8eBL4
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Post by Weeziethm Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:37 pm

Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
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Post by Mylife101 Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:47 pm

Hilarious recap of the last 2 days. roflao

“The Prosecutor” Takes Control of Runaway Train"

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/

Enjoy! Very Happy
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Post by nemo1970 Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:33 pm

Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
Found something interesting:
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/05/bordering-on-sociopathy_18.html

"...when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.”

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:34 pm

Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
Send her a PM to confirm, Weezie. IIRC, from other testimony, a person may have a mixture of other personality disorders. Not sure how that works. Maybe it is like Sociopaths and borderline personalities are in column one and historian narcissists are from column two? Or maybe they are ALL in column one! Shocked I know I heard there can be a mix, however. Anxious to hear what Just can tell us.
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:35 pm

Mylife101 wrote:Hilarious recap of the last 2 days. roflao

“The Prosecutor” Takes Control of Runaway Train"

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/

Enjoy! Very Happy
I know this has got to be good!
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:36 pm

Big welcome to Nemo!

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Post by nemo1970 Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:39 pm

Freckles wrote:Big welcome to Nemo!

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Thanks ! rocker

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Post by Mylife101 Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:51 pm

nemo1970 wrote:
Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
Found something interesting:
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/05/bordering-on-sociopathy_18.html

"...when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.”

Good information. Thanks, nemo....and WELCOME! Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #14 - Page 20 839314
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Post by Weeziethm Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:56 pm

nemo1970 wrote:
Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
Found something interesting:
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/05/bordering-on-sociopathy_18.html

"...when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.”

Thanks, Nemo, for this information. I need to review it again about 3 more times it contained so much information!
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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:09 pm

Bwahahahaha!!!! Eggtree cracks me the f**k up!

"Half of Monday was flushed down the toilet so Heavy D Nurmi could induce a wave of eyerolls around the world with his latest nonsensical mistrial motions. Sporting a nifty metallic blue shirt (that should have come with a space helmet, or at least a fish bowl over his head), the overgrown crybaby blamed all his woes on Juan “The Prosecutor” Martinez. According to the whiny space cadet, Martinez was a big meanie to Boss Hogg impersonator Richard Samuels. He also pissed and moaned (again) about Juan’s squeeing groupies outside the courthouse. Basically, every problem under the sun is barky Martinez’s fault, and the defense deserves a do-over. DENIED and DENIED said the judge four hours later. But Heavy D and Jenny squeezed another $1200 out of Arizona taxpayers in the process, so I guess it was all worth it. "

Read it all here (drain your bladder first):

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/

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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:14 pm

Sorry for multi posts, but...

"A mysterious bald spot has appeared on the crown of Jenny Wilmott’s head. Did she and her psycho My Twin doll Jodi get into a hairpulling fight over the weekend? I’m guessing it was over irreconcilable costume differences, because they don’t match today. Either that, or Jodi threw a legendary temper tantrum over losing valuable airtime to a terrorist attack yesterday."


Laughing

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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:32 pm

Bmore wrote:I think it's funny how Dr. D keeps trying to hold in the laugh while explaining to JW for the millionth time what order the practice, masters, doctrine, etc. goes in... lol
IMO, that was intentionally scripted by JW to try to confuse the jury. And IF the jury is confused, they will ask the questions to clear away any ground fog. Cool
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:34 pm

Thank you, Alessandra, for providing the evening entertainment. study
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:45 pm

Wow. Clipped-

" ....After having a sexual affair the person with borderline personality disorder may not have the same amount of guilt as someone with non-BPD. The reason is projection; oftentimes people with borderline personality disorder project their negative behaviors onto others including their partners. This means that someone with borderline personality disorder who is having a reckless sexual affair may have a tendency to build a fake affair that their spouse or loved one is having in their head. They literally make themselves believe that their partner is also cheating and that they are therefore justified in having their reckless sexual affair...."


"Also, knowing that we have the ability to interest and consume someone with our sexuality or ability to seduce them is a form of validation of our own self-worth."

" If I can distract them with my body, they’ll have proven themselves not trustworthy enough to get into my mind, but at the same time, I have someone near. I’ll have validated my own paranoia and satisfied my need to not be alone. How’s that for messed up. When I’m alone I feel empty. Sex is one of those ultimate expressions of being not alone. "

http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/07/why-are-borderlines-so-sexual.html

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