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Post by Freckles Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:53 pm

From NAN's link above:
GZ call to 911

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/911-call-george-zimmerman-calls-911/vCJZc6/

This is a MUST to listen to!
I will try to type some of it in case it disappears.

From the tape:
GZ: Says his gf has gone crazy.
She is outside with the police.

@ 1:15 GZ: He wants someone to know the truth. Says officers are pretty upset--- they are banging on the door and "everything." When asked by 911 if he is going to go speak with them, he tells 911 he doesn't "have anything to say."

@ 2:40 GZ: Says gf has a 9mm; says he never pulled a firearm; keeps it next to the bed; does not know where her weapon is; says his weapon is in a bag locked and then he gives a scoffing sound.

@ 2:50 GZ: Says "she's pregnant with our child" and "she told me it better to co-parent than to raise the child on her own," so he started packing his stuff to leave;

@3:00 GZ: "she just completely changed"; "at first she let me pack my stuff so we could go our own ways, when she changed she just started smashing stuff, taking stuff belonging to me and throwing it outside, throwing it out of her room, throwing it all over the house; she broke the glass table because she threw something on it I don't know if it was mine or hers or whatever it was... She got mad I guess because I told her I was willing to leave...."

@3:41 GZ: "... she thought I was going to argue with her but she is pregnant and I am not going to put her through that kind of stress. "

@4:00 GZ: States he does not know if she is still outside; he is inside. Says no, he is not willing to go out to speak with officers--- he can talk with them but he does not want to go outside as they are "going to do the same thing they did before..."

Dispatch informs GZ she is advising the officers they will need to speak with him; GZ asks her if she wants to talk with his atty; she says officers are already on scene...GZ perks up and says he will talk with "them" on the phone; dispatch calls officers on her phone.

@6: 00: GZ states no one was injured; phone call is very garbled now






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Post by ishi Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:14 pm

http://live.orlandosentinel.com/Event/George_Zimmerman_hearing

Hearing will start at 1:30 ET. HLN will show it also.
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Post by Freckles Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:30 pm

Thanks, Ishi! Going there now...

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Post by Freckles Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:37 pm

Tweet
http://live.orlandosentinel.com/Event/George_Zimmerman_hearing?Page=3


She told deputies they had been living together since August. Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce in early September, I believe
by Michelle Guido, Orlando... 12:24 PM


12:23 PM
TwitterRene Stutzman @renestutzman
#GeorgeZimmerman friend Frank Taaffe's just walked into jail c-ro. He's GZ's former neighbor.

Anyone know how long GZ has know this girlfriend?
by OH BOY 12:24 PM

She told deputies they had been living together since August. Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce in early September, I believe
by Michelle Guido, Orlando... 12:24 PM


12:30 PM
TwitterRene Stutzman @renestutzman
A big gun from state atty's handling today's #GeorgeZimmerman hearing: Chris White, head SC prosecutor.



12:40 PM
TwitterJeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel @JeffWeinerOS
State wants #GeorgeZimmerman to not have any guns, no leaving state, no passports.
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Passports, plural. Yep.

Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel @JeffWeinerOS
State requests $50 ,000 bond. Says victim didn't report to police another recent incident which involved choking.

Rene Stutzman @renestutzman
Prosecutor at #GeorgeZimmerman hearing: he tried to choke victim 1 2/2 weeks ago but she didn't report it.


George is literally sweating.


@OHBOY He had an AR-15 and a shotgun loaded and cocked..He used the shotgun to break the glass coffee table..
by robyns323 12:52 PM



I doubt it aloof...Taafee was just there to get his face on TV. Still trying to profit from the death of a teenage boy.
by Curiosity 1:00 PM


Rene Stutzman @renestutzman
#GeorgeZimmerman judge is Jessica Recksiedler. Last go-round she recused because her hub works w/ Mark NeJame, a CNN legal analyst.
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Post by Freckles Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:56 pm

I am reminded of this song....
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:56 pm

George Zimmerman freed on bail in domestic violence case

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This image provided November 19, 2013 by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office in Florida, shows George Zimmerman (AFP Photo/)

Miami (AFP) - George Zimmerman, the US man controversially acquitted of murdering black teenager Trayvon Martin, was granted bail Tuesday after being arrested for domestic violence against his girlfriend.

Judge Fred Schott of the Seminole County Court, in the southern US state of Florida, set bail at $9,000 during a hearing a day after Zimmerman was arrested on charges of pointing a gun at his girlfriend.

The judge set the next hearing for January 7 and explicitly forbade Zimmerman from having a gun or ammunition or from leaving Florida while free on bail.

He also ordered a monitoring device to ensure Zimmerman kept away from his girlfriend, and forbade him to contact her in any way, "not by person, not by phone, not by mail, not by fax, blog, tweet through Facebook, no contact at all."

The 30-year-old was arrested Monday on charges of aggravated assault with a weapon, which is a felony, and battery and criminal mischief.

"I do find probable cause for all three allegations," Judge Schott said as Zimmerman, wearing a prison uniform, listened quietly.

Read more:

http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-freed-bail-domestic-violence-case-201141691.html
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:10 pm



George Zimmerman arraignment on domestic violence (FULL) Bond

Published on Nov 19, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2K56OA2OiY
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:37 pm

George Zimmerman released from jail after hearing

Tuesday, November 19, 2013

MIKE SCHNEIDER Associated Press

VIDEO ( Zimmerman can be seen walking out of jail after the hearing)

More ...

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=9331643
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:08 pm

PERSPECTIVE

Will George Zimmerman's dueling 911 calls cancel each other out?

New charges have been filed against George Zimmerman in Florida.

Robin Abcarian
November 19, 2013, 7:07 p.m.

George Zimmerman may have been acquitted of murder after killing Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black teenager, but I predict that, like OJ Simpson, he will eventually find himself behind bars.

Why?

He is a walking time bomb. He can’t stay out of trouble. He carries a gun wherever he goes. He has trouble controlling his impulses.

And he gets angry a lot.

His acquittal in the 2012 slaying seems to have imbued him with the sense that he is immune to the sorts of consequences that befall the rest of us when we behave badly.

~Snipped~

It seems that Zimmerman has learned a few defensive tricks from his regular brushes with the law. During the murder trial, various 911 calls were used by both the defense and the prosecution, and seemed to cancel each other out.

The importance of those recordings, interpreted in ways that conflicted, was not lost on Zimmerman, who barricaded himself inside the home Monday.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, "while deputies were outside, banging on the door, trying to get him to come out," Zimmerman placed a 911 call of his own, blaming the dispute on his girlfriend, who had "for lack of a better word, gone crazy on me.’”

Dueling 911 calls.

What a creative potential defense.

Read more:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-will-george-zimmermans-dueling-911-calls-cancel-each-other-out-20131119,0,6302563.story?track=rss#axzz2lFZV0Ej8
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Post by Freckles Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:02 am

GZ pulled the "dueling" crap before.
Anyone recall the long-term gf he had before SZ?
The gf had asked for a restraining order after GZ had allegedly hit/beat her and a pregnant dog?
GZ then pulled a restraining order against her stating she had been physical to him.


His MO remains the same...
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Post by Freckles Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:37 am

George Zimmerman is served with divorce papers in jail before being released on $9,000 bail after 'pointing shotgun at his girlfriend' - as attorney reveals he is 'millions of dollars' in debt
Wednesday, Nov 20 2013

George Zimmerman has been released from jail after posting $9,000 bail - but not before his wife Shellie served him with divorce papers while he was behind bars. Zimmerman, who was arrested Monday after his girlfriend Samantha Scheibe called 911 saying that he threatened her with a double-barrel shotgun, has been dodging his estranged wife's attempts to legally notify him that she wants a divorce. wrote:
TMZ.com reports that Shellie Zimmerman has been trying to divorce George since September - but she can't because court agents have not been able to track him down and hand him the paperwork formally notifying him of the divorce. He finally got the paperwork today in the Seminole County jail. wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510154/George-Zimmerman-released-bail-state-appointed-attorneys-reveal-millions-dollars-debt.html
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Post by Nan11 Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:02 am

This is a 4 page write up detailing two equally troubled people in a relationship--now they have added a little sex to this already sordid story.  This quote is also from the same article.

While there, Mason said Scheibe’s daughter received a text message from George Zimmerman. Mason said that message was a still image from an intimate home video of Scheibe and Zimmerman.

“He’s now threatened her in writing and even sent a portion of the video to her baby girl,” Mason wrote in a text message.

But still Scheibe stayed with Zimmerman and the couple reunited.
Click Orlando (WKMG)| George Zimmerman's girlfriend speaks to Local 6
Samantha Scheibe, mother detail relationship with Zimmerman

Author: Erik Sandoval, Reporter, esandoval@wkmg.com
Published On: Nov 19 2013 10:41:43 PM EST Updated On: Nov 20 2013 08:23:06 AM EST

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ORLANDO, Fla. - George Zimmerman’s girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe, described Zimmerman as alone, depressed and fascinated by guns in the days after after his acquittal on charges in connection with the death of Trayvon Martin.

Scheibe and her mother, Hope Mason, spoke with Local 6 on and off through text messages and phone calls over the past three weeks as they talked about participating in an on camera interview about Scheibe’s relationship with Zimmerman.

{Snipped}


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmermans-girlfriend-speaks-to-local-6/-/1637132/23057000/-/toyvi7z/-/index.html
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Post by Nan11 Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:14 am

I don't know where this supposed debt is coming from.

From Zimmerman's latest application for indigent status:

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http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Affidavit_of_Indigency.pdf


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Post by Nan11 Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:20 am

Freckles wrote:GZ pulled the "dueling" crap before.
Anyone recall the long-term gf he had before SZ?
The gf had asked for a restraining order after GZ had allegedly hit/beat her and a pregnant dog?
GZ then pulled a restraining order against her stating she had been physical to him.


His MO remains the same...
You bet he pulled this all before.  Nothing new here.

But, will it stick this time?
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Post by ishi Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:03 am

Probably not, Nan. He is the teflon man.
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Post by Freckles Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:41 am

From NAN's link above:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmermans-girlfriend-speaks-to-local-6/-/1637132/23057000/-/item/1/-/4tw0dhz/-/index.html

On February 26 -- the night of the shooting -- she says Shellie and George had gotten into a heated argument. Shellie had left to spend the night elsewhere, and that’s why she wasn’t home when the shooting happened. Talk of divorce had already started, she says. wrote:
So he had a *hit -fit the night Shellie left him and decided to show her (and the world) just how important he thot he was! Talk of divorce had already started and he figured he would "woo" her back ... or at least make her too afraid to leave him.

See a pattern? When he does not get what he wants he rages... IIRC, that is the same pattern when he assaulted the undercover officer at the bar after his friend was pulled over for underage drinking.... around the time his gf had put a restraining order against him. (Can't recall which came first...)
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Post by Freckles Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:58 am

Scheibe says Zimmerman threatened to take his own life on more than one occasion, and she says the threats seem to come about when he was not one of the news headlines. wrote:
Scheibe says she and Zimmerman had spent the morning at Kel Tec, a gun manufacturer in Cocoa. On their way back to the Orlando area, Scheibe says Zimmerman accessed the home surveillance cameras at the Lake Mary home belonging to her mother using an app on his phone. She says he saw Shellie was moving her things out, but she says she also say him moving things that belonged to him. That's when they drove to the house, and the fight escalated, Scheibe said. Scheibe says she watched as Shellie hit George over the head repeatedly with her iPad. That's when she said George took the iPad away from her, broke it over his knee and threw it to the ground. Scheibe claims George did have a gun on him that day, and it wasn't in the trunk of his car. wrote:


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmermans-girlfriend-speaks-to-local-6/-/1637132/23057000/-/item/1/-/4tw0dhz/-/index.html
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Post by Freckles Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:22 am

What he said makes no sense at all.
It is totally illogical.

George is now facing felony domestic violence charges after Samantha Scheibe claimed he threatened her with a gun and forced her out of their house. wrote:
-- It is NOT "their" house. IIRC, his name is NOT on title. It is her principal residence but title may belong to her mother.

Early this month, George made it clear to Samantha he was leaving her and leaving Florida. Samantha then dropped a bombshell-- that she was 6 weeks pregnant. George now believes she was lying about it in order to keep him in her grip. wrote:
--IF GZ had made plans earlier in the month to leave Samantha, WHY was he there?

--IF this is true, why didn't GZ leave when Samantha, on the phone to 911, was heard ASKING GZ TO LEAVE?

--IF this is true, why didn't GZ come out of the home when LE arrived rather than barricading the door?

--IF this is true, why didn't GZ speak with LE when they first arrived?
Not his first go round with LE...he knows how it is done.

--IF this is true, why was GZ with a gun on these premises?

-- In the last gf/bf relationship prior to marriage to Shellie, the gf (who filed a restraining order against GZ only to have him try to game her by reciprocating) alleged GZ had beat/hit/threatened her and then had kicked her PREGNANT dog. She reported she wanted to have a baby and GZ went ballistic over the idea.

George then offered to make a child custody and support deal ... but Samantha wanted him. wrote:
-- I seriously doubt GZ was desirous of having a child. Further, he does not have a job, a place to live, is facing a bitter divorce from wife Shellie, and self reports to sposedly being several millions of dollars in debt. How would he offer to pay anything for hospital, child support, etc.?



http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/21/george-zimmerman-samantha-scheibe-threatened-pregnant-domestic-violence/

IMO, GZ and Samantha MAY have been having a discussion re her having a child. She may have said she only viewed him as sperm donor and wanted to be the only one parenting the child. She may have said she did not think he would be a good parent or she may have said she would not want her own child around him. And whether or not GZ wanted a child, it set him off; Samantha dared to find fault with him.

BTW, IF Frank Taffee really believes in GZ, why doesn't Tafffee, a single man after several failed marriages, offer up to GZ place in his own home? Yeah. That would put "innocent" and exonerated GZ back in Sanford... IMO, GZ has spent most of his adult life trying to connive and con others for his own support. Three different women he has latched on to so as to get his room, board, nookie for free...
totally irresponsible. "Boys just wanna have fun..." mentality. Highly immature. Let's see if his mama, daddy, bro or sis rescue him this time.
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Post by justanopinion Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:43 pm

Freckles wrote:What he said makes no sense at all.
It is totally illogical.


-- It is NOT "their" house. IIRC, his name is NOT on title. It is her principal residence but title may belong to her mother.


--IF GZ had made plans earlier in the month to leave Samantha, WHY was he there?

--IF this is true, why didn't GZ leave when Samantha, on the phone to 911, was heard ASKING GZ TO LEAVE?

--IF this is true, why didn't GZ come out of the home when LE arrived rather than barricading the door?

--IF this is true, why didn't GZ speak with LE when they first arrived?
Not his first go round with LE...he knows how it is done.

--IF this is true, why was GZ with a gun on these premises?

-- In the last gf/bf relationship prior to marriage to Shellie, the gf (who filed a restraining order against GZ only to have him try to game her by reciprocating) alleged GZ had beat/hit/threatened her and then had kicked her PREGNANT dog. She reported she wanted to have a baby and GZ went ballistic over the idea.


-- I seriously doubt GZ was desirous of having a child. Further, he does not have a job, a place to live, is facing a bitter divorce from wife Shellie, and self reports to sposedly being several millions of dollars in debt. How would he offer to pay anything for  hospital, child support, etc.?



http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/21/george-zimmerman-samantha-scheibe-threatened-pregnant-domestic-violence/

IMO, GZ and Samantha MAY have been having a discussion re her having a child. She may have said she only viewed him as  sperm donor and wanted to be the only one parenting the child. She may have said she did not think he would be a good parent or she may have said she would not want her own child around him. And whether or not GZ wanted a child, it set him off; Samantha dared to find fault with him.

BTW, IF Frank Taffee really believes in GZ, why doesn't Tafffee, a single man after several failed marriages, offer up to GZ place in his own home?  Yeah. That would put "innocent" and exonerated  GZ back in Sanford... IMO, GZ has spent most of his adult life trying to connive and con others for his own support. Three different women he has latched on to so as to get his room, board, nookie for free...
totally irresponsible. "Boys just wanna have fun..." mentality. Highly immature. Let's see if his mama, daddy, bro or sis rescue him this time.

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Post by Freckles Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:39 pm

A page and a half later and you say I get "right to the point" ???
Wow. I wanna attend your family reunions!

roflao roflao roflao 

Personally, I squirm because I am too verbose, IMO.
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:28 am

Shellie Zimmerman: George Behaves 'Like a Monster'

By Sheila Cosgrove Baylis

11/21/2013 at 04:45 PM EST

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Shellie Zimmerman and Katie Couric - Disney/ABC

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Shellie tells Katie Couric that George has changed drastically since she first married him in 2007.

"In the beginning, yes, and we were great friends and I thought he was a wonderful person; that's why I married him," Shellie said when asked if she and her husband were ever happy.

"I haven't seen him in a couple months, but it certainly seems like something snapped in his spirit," she says, adding that the change made him behave "like a monster."

"I certainly hope that there are no causalities. I hope that there's no violence, but he does seem like a ticking time bomb," she adds.

"I know I’m certainly afraid. I just hope that he can get maybe the help that he needs to deal with his situation and that no one else will be hurt."

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Post by Soprano1 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:09 am

(After-thought: Wow, this is long. Sorry, but I needed to get this off my chest.)
I'm not gonna lie, this most recent arrest is almost hilarious (not "haha," but kind of a "deja vu" thing that makes me shake my head). Certainly not because of the trail of abused women and dead teenagers he leaves. The reason is because, when I read what occurred before the arrest, I began to feel awful things that I hadn't experienced since my divorce 6 years ago. I was married to this. His girlfriend called the police during his rampage, explaining what he'd done and how he was threatening her...then, once he's pushed her out the door, he calls the police to say SHE broke the furniture and he is worried about her - that makes me sick. I mean, I can physically feel my blood pressure rising. My ex-husband, when I tried to begin a divorce (on grounds of infidelity and physical, emotional, financial, and mental abuse), dared call my parents and employers to "ask for help," saying he had learned that I had borderline personality disorder (whoa, REALLY?!) and severe depression, and he was just SO concerned for ME.

Then, I read the part about how when the police arrived, he had put the gun away and was sitting calmly and was fully cooperative, as though he couldn't possibly have been the one on the angry rampage. And I recalled the night my brother drove 6 1/2 hours to get to my house during one of my ex's many tantrums. When he got there, naturally, I was the only one who was so angry I was shaking. My ex-husband had achieved his mission: he had so enraged me by breaking stuff, throwing things around, shaking me, choking me, pulling my hair, pushing me into walls, kicking doors, and threatening to take the kids, that I was mad and scared and freaking out...while he just sat calmly in the living room and said, "I just cannot figure out why she's so upset. I tried to help her calm down, but I don't know what will help her. I'm so worried about her, and about how this will affect the kids."

This was the MO for every single instance that my ex-husband went on an angry rampage. Every single time, for years. It's unbelievable how much he got away with by playing this card. I even learned mid-way into our marriage that this was EXACTLY what he'd done to his first wife, and that the dozens of people who "knew" what had caused the breakdown during their marriage, were duped in the same way he was still doing. This is how he has continued to get through life, and how he continues to behave towards women he dates. He is NEVER held accountable for any of it. When I say never, I actually mean NEVER. There has never been a time he's been called on the carpet for his abuse of others. It's always (whether legally or socially) the other person's fault, and even when he is, on occasion, caught in a situation that actually implicates him as the aggressor, he has this weird way of somehow ALWAYS turning it the other direction to implicate the other person.

I cannot figure it all out, but I sure as heck know it when I see it on someone else, and GZ is IT. Just reading the reports of his explanation of the situation with Samantha - it just made my blood boil. Because I KNOW how it feels to be done that way.
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Post by angiefly2 Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:27 am

Soprano1,
I am sorry for what you have gone through. I also went through what you're describing and GZ has been making my blood boil too. I really wonder if he'll be held accountable, unlike our exes, I wonder if him being in the spotlight will put pressure on authorities to hold him accountable. I doubt it because, just like with our exes, these slimy assholes always get their way. *sigh*
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Post by Nan11 Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:09 am

This is the full interview that Shellie did with Katie Couric yesterday.



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This is an older article, and it is only alleged--but this is bone chilling.  I would not to want to walk in my home and find a bullet riddled bulls eye nailed to my wall.

NY Daily News | George Zimmerman’s wife says he left bullet-riddled bull's-eye as threat
By Bill Hutchinson / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS | Published: Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 4:35 PM, Updated: Thursday, October 31, 2013, 11:34 AM

Shellie Zimmerman, who has filed for divorce from the former neighborhood watchman acquitted in the death of Trayvon Martin, says she found the target in the study of her parents’ house in the Orlando suburb of Lake Mary after she put him out.

George Zimmerman -- Trial for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin --June 10, 2013 - Page 18 Ejx27l http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1502636.1383232091!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-zimmerman-1031.jpg

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-wife-left-bullet-riddled-bullseye-threat-article-1.1501881#ixzz2lNnQNaaU
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Post by Freckles Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:15 am

Soprano,
Well said. So many of us have been there but you have articulated it well. Celebrate the courage you had in obtaining your freedom.

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Post by Nan11 Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:17 am

O'Mara showed up on Anderson Cooper last night to explain things for Zimmerman.  Reverse, rewind, repeat.

CNN | ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Aired November 21, 2013 - 20:00 ET

COOPER: What's obviously been a difficult week for George Zimmerman, first arrested on domestic violence charges after his girlfriend called 911. He spent Monday night in jail and while sitting in a cell, he was served with divorce papers. Shellie Zimmerman gave her take. Here is what she told Katie Couric on her talk show, "Katie."

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN: I don't know who George is anymore. I would like to think I married a person who was a good person and going through the past year and a half, I don't know how that changes a person or how a person's spirit breaks, but it certainly seems like that's what happened to him. I found out that he was lying about a lot of things, and he became like a pacing lion, very unpredictable. Every single day it was like adrenaline going through my body constantly not knowing what it was going to be like from day to day.

(END VIDEO CLIP)


COOPER: Shellie Zimmerman of course stood by her husband during his murder trial. Couric asked her if she had any regrets about that. She said part of her does. She said she doesn't think George Zimmerman is racist. For the first time since Zimmerman's latest legal troubles, his former attorney is speaking out. Mark O'Mara helped get Zimmerman acquitted on murder back in July. He joins me now. Good to have you here. Obviously, you did not know George Zimmerman before Trayvon Martin was killed. She said she saw a change in him during the course of the trial. Did you see that?

MARK O'MARA, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S FORMER ATTORNEY: Well, I think she's right. I think that the George Zimmerman that existed before February 2012 was a kind and gentle person and one that she described and his friends described. When the FBI did their investigation to see if he was racist, they talked to 40 people and not one said he was or violent or dangerous or anything, but peaceful and mellow so that's who he seemed to have been before the event that happened on the 12th -- I'm sorry, February of 2012.

So, now if you look forward, to see what happened to George Zimmerman and I know every time I say that, people say well what about Trayvon Martin and we understand he passed away that night and with all respect for what he went through, we know that George Zimmerman went through a trauma, both that night, the trauma of getting beat up, which happens in all that traumatic but police officers have to shoot somebody and justified self-defense, they go through an enormous amount of counseling.

They are treated very carefully. So that wasn't done with George, rather, he was turned into one of, as was labeled, one of the most hated men in America for having to defend his life. So I'm not sure what happens to a 28-year-old and put him in hiding for 16 or 18 months, but maybe this is fallout.

COOPER: Subsequently to his acquittal, we saw him pulled over by police a number of times for speeding. There was the incident with Shellie Zimmerman and now the incident with his girlfriend. What do yaw make of the incident with his girlfriend?

O'MARA: The first time everyone jumped to conclusions who he is and what he did. I don't know the true story that night. I'm not involved in that case and will not be. I'm sure there are two sides to the story. I know already things have come out about people selling the story even before that event and trying to get a TV program with it.

So there seems to be a lot more behind the scenes, but I know the George Zimmerman that existed back before 2012 have to have been changed by what he went through and if this is some fallout and I'm not excusing any allege behavior, but if this is fallout, people say George needs to be understood better and counseled --

COOPER: Are you skeptical of someone like Shellie Zimmerman speaking out now? Obviously she's in divorce proceedings against her husband. There has to be a reason she's speaking out now. Let me just play something else that she said on Katie.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KATIE COURIC: I think when people hear of all these incidents following the trial, it does cast further doubt on his actions that night.

ZIMMERMAN: Sure.

COURIC: Do you feel that way?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes.

COURIC: Does it cast further doubt for you?

ZIMMERMAN: Further doubt, yes, absolutely.

COURIC: But yet.

ZIMMERMAN: It casts a lot of doubt like you said, because like I have said. I don't know the person that I've been married to, so of course, I'm going to have questions and doubts, but I wasn't there that night.

(END VIDEOTAPE)


COOPER: To that you say?

O'MARA: Well, quite honestly --

COOPER: Do you have any doubts?

O'MARA: I don't have any doubts about what he did that night was absolutely justified self-defense. It was never a second-degree murder.

COOPER: Are you worried about him now? You're not representing him, but are you worried about him?

O'MARA: I've come to have a friendship with him in the last year and a half. No question. He went through a traumatic event that lasted 18 months. Those people want to continue to hate George Zimmerman. We'll see what he's done since the acquittal as justification but there is no question that what happen that night in February 2012 happened because it had to happen and it was justified.

COOPER: Financially speaking, he seems to be in rough shape. According to court documents he only has $150 on hand and $2 million in debt to you.

O'MARA: Don West and I spend 3,000 hours each --

COOPER: Do you think you'll be repaid?

O'MARA: He has possibilities. I think those possibilities are shrinking with actions like this. I didn't take it on expecting to get full payment. He has an agreement he will if the money is available.

COOPER: So the legal defense fund didn't pan out.

O'MARA: It took care of a lot of expenses. It allowed him to bring on experts and survive until trial and pay off some of what was done. No, there is a lot of money due to a lot of people that put in work. Don and I are two of the people, but we know that money is never to come to us or far in the future if something good does come to George.

COOPER: Good to have you here.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1311/21/acd.01.html
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Post by Nan11 Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:38 am

It could and it will, because they will spin it until it does.

Orlando Sentinel | George Zimmerman girlfriend: I did not set him up
By Hal BoedekerStaff writer | 10:02 a.m. EST, November 20, 2013

WKMG legal analyst Luis Calderon said the pursuit of that interview could help Zimmerman's case. "The defense could make it out to be nothing more nothing less than her doing this for some financial motive or some publicity," Calderon said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-when-emails-become-news-20131120,0,2252808.post
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Post by Nan11 Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:26 pm

I scrolled back a couple of pages and I didn't see this linked, so I thought I would add it.

It is an interview that Joy Reid did with Manalo.  He is promoting his book--but if we overlook that, he offers yet another event which gives a peek into Zimmerman's mind frame.

The transcript is one I did, so I apologize for any errors it might contain.

VIDEO Part 1 | https://youtu.be/J2T6yDMQ0OE



About about .13 seconds in of Part 2:
Joy Reid:  ... And in that, one of the stories that you tell is about another interaction with a colleague of yours at UPS—between him and George Zimmerman.  Tell me a little bit about that.

Manalo:  It was about November.

Joy Reid:  This is November before the shooting.  So, November of 2011.

Manalo:  Before the shooting.  So we are looking at about three or four months before the actual shooting.  He was just—you know:  One of the biggest trucks that we have; day light; knocks on the door and says, “Driver release,” so he can just leave it at the door; and he walks back to his truck.

When he turns around, George Zimmerman is just standing there with his gun in his hand; and then just says, “Oh, I didn’t know who it was.”

But, clearly--there is a big, brown truck in front of your house, with a UPS logo on it—and you don’t know who it is.

It kind of makes you wonder what his mind was thinking at that moment.

Joy Reid:  And was that incident reported to your supervisor?

Manalo:  Yes, it was.

VIDEO Part 2 | https://youtu.be/kpCeXPE6BRw
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Post by Nan11 Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:48 am

I guess the Zimmermans and O'Mara decided to pay the security company that the Zimmermans kept busy running to the store for toilet paper and whatnot.

The Zimmermans and O'Mara had tried to wriggle out of it, saying there had been no binding contract--but it would appear that there was, indeed.

Click Orlando (WKMG) | Zimmermans, O'Mara settle lawsuit with security company
George Zimmerman's security team paid $30K in settlement, attorney says
Published On: Nov 22 2013 05:14:11 PM EST Updated On: Nov 22 2013 05:48:06 PM EST


ORLANDO, Fla. -
The Zimmermans and attorney Mark O'Mara have settled a lawsuit with the private security company that was suing for unpaid security services from the aftermath of the Trayvon Martin shooting.


Read more:  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/zimmermans-omara-settle-lawsuit-with-security-company/-/1637132/23112516/-/dwxo24/-/index.html
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Post by Nan11 Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:57 am

If you have been following this case, the following is worth a few minutes of your time to read.

Think Progress | The Curious Case Of George Zimmerman’s Public Defender
By Judd Legum on November 25, 2013 at 9:10 am

{Snipped}

Today, Dowdy is the taxpayer-financed public defender for George Zimmerman as he faces new charges for assaulting his girlfriend with a shotgun.

How did it happen that a highly-skilled veteran lawyer — deeply familiar and sympathetic to George Zimmerman — ended up being his lawyer, for free?

{Snipped}

A few weeks ago, Dowdy left his private practice to become the Chief Assistant Public Defender for Seminole County. According to Trettis, Dowdy does not normally handle individual cases because he has to manage the entire county. When Dowdy does get involved, it would typically be in very serious cases like first degree murder. But, Trettis said, Dowdy has the “discretion” to assign himself as the attorney in any case. And that is exactly what he did in the case of George Zimmerman, assigning himself as an additional lawyer.

Trettis said that, Dowdy’s prior work for Robert Zimmerman Jr. notwithstanding, he had no concerns that George Zimmerman was getting special treatment.

{Snipped}

(On Armed American Radio, Dowdy describes O’Mara as “an old friend.”)

{Snipped}

Read more:  http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11/25/2988941/curious-case-george-zimmermans-public-defender/
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Post by Freckles Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:07 pm

Nan=
The last three postings you have shared are very telling of GZ.
He is going to let loose and more are going to get seriously hurt.
He is a danger to his community and his mental illness, his desire for attention, subservience to him, complete support of him is growing in leaps and bounds.

This is serious stuff. Each time he "screws up" with LE interaction needs to be taken seriously. At this point, he thinks he is infallible.
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Post by Freckles Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:09 pm

Dowdy is the newest MOM or Baez... just a media whore.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11/25/2988941/curious-case-george-zimmermans-public-defender/
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:13 pm

bob kealing‏@bobkealing   25 Nov
Just in: Public Defender: #georgezimmerman has retained private SOFLA attorney for new criminal case.  GZ last week claimed $2.5mil in debt.

bob kealing‏@bobkealing  25 Nov
Just in: #GeorgeZimmerman files motion for return of pocket knife, iphone, blackberry, flashlight he argues are "not evidence" in new case.

bob kealing‏@bobkealing19 Nov
Application from #GeorgeZimmerman for "Criminal Indigent Status" listing assets, debt, job status.

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https://twitter.com/bobkealing
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:45 pm

George Zimmerman drops public defender, asks for return of knife & phones

Zimmerman to be represented by Jayne Weintraub, a south-Florida lawyer and legal commentator.

By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
1:54 p.m. EST, November 25, 2013


~Snipped~

Zimmerman was represented by the 18th Judicial Circuit Public Defender's Office during his first appearance on Tuesday, the day after his domestic violence arrest. He was granted $9,000 bail and bonded out that day.

However, Zimmerman has now elected to drop the Public Defender's Office and hire Jayne Weintraub, a south Florida private criminal defense attorney, to represent him, according to his former public defender, Jeff Dowdy.

Meanwhile, in a new motion, Zimmerman asks for the return of several items seized by police which he says are "not related to the [domestic violence] charges in any way and are not considered evidence" in the case.

Read more:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-new-lawyer-20131125,0,5351979.story
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Jayne C. Weintraub
Of Counsel
Miami  

Jayne C. Weintraub is Of Counsel in the Miami office of Broad and Cassel. She is a member of the Firm’s White Collar Defense and Compliance Group.

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Vinnie Politan, Jayne Weintraub and Gloria Allred.

Jayne Weintraub, Zimmerman's new defense lawyer, is a permanent fixture on HLN.
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Post by Freckles Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:50 pm

Did I say Dowdy was a media whore? I must have spoken too soon...
HLN, huh? Guess we know where their loyalties (truth in reporting) will lie.
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Post by Freckles Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:55 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:George Zimmerman drops public defender, asks for return of knife & phones

Zimmerman to be represented by Jayne Weintraub, a south-Florida lawyer and legal commentator.

By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
1:54 p.m. EST, November 25, 2013


~Snipped~

Zimmerman was represented by the 18th Judicial Circuit Public Defender's Office during his first appearance on Tuesday, the day after his domestic violence arrest. He was granted $9,000 bail and bonded out that day.

However, Zimmerman has now elected to drop the Public Defender's Office and hire Jayne Weintraub, a south Florida private criminal defense attorney, to represent him, according to his former public defender, Jeff Dowdy.

Meanwhile, in a new motion, Zimmerman asks for the return of several items seized by police which he says are "not related to the [domestic violence] charges in any way and are not considered evidence" in the case.

Read more:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-new-lawyer-20131125,0,5351979.story
I would keep that cell phone and run some forensics looking for threats...

Those items: An Apple iPhone, a Blackberry cell phone, a small hand-held flashlight and a pocket knife. The motion was filed by a colleague of Dowdy's, apparently before Zimmerman switched to the private lawyer. wrote:
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Post by Nan11 Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:48 pm

Freckles wrote:Nan=
The last three postings you have shared are very telling of GZ.
He is going to let loose and more are going to get seriously hurt.
He is a danger to his community and his mental illness, his desire for attention, subservience to him, complete support of him is growing in leaps and  bounds.

This is serious stuff. Each time he "screws up" with LE interaction needs to be taken seriously. At this point, he thinks he is infallible.
I'm to the point where I'm not questioning when, I am worrying about who.

I still shiver when I think about that bullseye target he allegedly left for Shellie to find--with 17 bullet holes in it.  If that's true, it is said that Shellie turned it over to the police--so they should have it.

But it's the 17 bullet holes that concern me--what would that be?  One bullet hole to represent each year of Trayvon Martin's seventeen years of life?  Each year erased by a bullet hole?

This editorial came out today, and I thought the author made some interesting comparisons.

USA Today | Wickham: George Zimmerman follows O.J.'s path
DeWayne Wickham, USATODAY 6 p.m. EST November 25, 2013

When I heard the news reports of George Zimmerman's most recent run-in with the law, I realized this was a movie I'd seen before — and I know just how it will end.

{Snipped}

Like Simpson, Zimmerman can't help himself when it comes to his propensity to find trouble. The demons inside of him have convinced Zimmerman he's invincible. They've made him believe he's above the law, an arrogance that one day soon will land him in jail — or worse.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/11/25/george-zimmerman-trayvon-oj-simpson-column/3692533/
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Post by Nan11 Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:00 pm

This is kind of interesting.  :)

It appears that the local attys in Orlando are not entirely pleased with Zimmerman's latest decision to hire Weintraub.

WESH | George Zimmerman hires new lawyer, public defender says
Zimmerman claims he is $2.5 million in debt
UPDATED 7:02 PM EST Nov 25, 2013


Watch video at link or view here:
 https://youtu.be/C4kfymsjdQk

{Snipped}

WESH 2 legal analyst Richard Hornsby says it appears Zimmerman has chosen Weintraub because of her high profile on cable television.

"I have a feeling George Zimmerman is approaching this as a celebrity and is looking for the person who has the same cachet he has," Hornsby said.


{Snipped}

Read more:  http://www.wesh.com/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/george-zimmerman-hires-new-lawyer-public-defender-says/-/14266478/23147024/-/mo254r/-/index.html


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Post by Nan11 Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:12 pm

If more people would only be like George, wouldn't the gun manufacturers be happy?

So he says he recorded the 'altercation' with his girlfriend on his cell phone--we might get to see that, if so. Of course, it should exonerate him, no?

Unless ...

Seriously, especially if there is pertinent video on that cell phone, they would not have to give it back until the case is settled.   Surely a motion wouldn't make that happen--even if he has the screaming Weintraub of HLN fame representing him.

CNN | Search in George Zimmerman case turns up weapons, ammunition
From John Couwels, CNN | Updated 6:42 PM EST, Mon November 25, 2013

{Snipped}

A search of the home turned up three handguns, a 12-gauge shotgun, a rifle and 106 rounds of ammunition, including two AR-15 magazines, according to a search warrant.

Three handgun holsters, a pack of gum, a religious pendant, a flashlight, a pocket knife, sanitizing wipe, a soft-sided gun case and a combination lock were also recovered during the search.

At the time of his arrest, Zimmerman had two cell phones. An affidavit, filed Monday, says he told authorities he recorded the altercation with his girlfriend on his cell phone.

{Snipped}


Read more:  http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/25/us/florida-george-zimmerman-evidence/index.html
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'SNL' takes aim at George Zimmerman, Florida

6:02 a.m. EST, November 24, 2013




Source:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-snl-takes-aim-at-george-zimmerman-20131124,0,972324.post
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Post by Nan11 Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:24 pm

If you get a minute, don't miss the video at this link.  Henry Pearson Curtis for the Orlando Sentinel gives a break down of the various weapons seized recently from Zimmerman.

I did a little transcription from the video as he describes the one Zimmerman used to threaten his girlfriend.  Priceless--truly priceless. I wonder how deep they can bury these statements if he walks into a school someday.

Below transcribed by me--with apologies for any errors.  See link for full VIDEO.

Quoted from video:

...

"The other weapon is a Kel-Tec shot gun that is notable because Mr. Zimmerman previously bought a Kel-Tec pistol, which was the one he used when he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.  This shot gun, though, is quite different from what one would think of as a shot gun in general.

Generally those semi automatic or pump shot guns carry three to five rounds of ammunition.  This one carries 13 and it is also only about—well—26 inches long and comes with a number of possible accessories like laser sights, etc.

And, ahh, it’s the, sort of a self defense weapon, where you could, ahh, clear out a bar room—if you had to."

...


Orlando Sentenial | Deputies find five guns in George Zimmerman's bag, search warrant reveals
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
11:06 a.m. EST, November 26, 2013


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Deputies got the warrant, suspecting that Zimmerman had locked away the shotgun after the confrontation but before deputies unlocked the door and pushed their way inside.

Deputies found the guns in a black soft-sided case secured with a combination lock, according to the warrant.


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Read more:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-search-warrant-20131126,0,2437266.story
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Post by Nan11 Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:33 pm

I wonder if he forgot he told them that he had 'recorded the event' on his cell phone?

And he had blocked the door causing the deputies to have to "forcefully remove the objects."  But, I guess, after they had "forcefully removed the objects" and entered the residence, he became co-operative.

Six Pages - Affidavit for Search Warrant and the Returned Search Warrant
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Search_Warrant_with_Affidavit_Returned.pdf
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Motion for Return of Property
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Motion_for_Return_of_Property.pdf
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Post by Freckles Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:08 pm

George Zimmerman: A man and his guns
By Jonathan Capehart November 26 at 4:20 pm


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/11/26/george-zimmerman-a-man-and-his-guns/

Interesting pic...
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:20 am

INVENTORY AND RECEIPT

3-  Black handgun holsters,  1-  pack of gum,  1-  religious pendant,  1-  flashlight,  1-  pocket knife,  1-  sanitizing wipe,  2-  cell phones,  2-  .223 rounds,  8-  9mm rounds,  2-  .40 caliber magazines with 8 rounds each,  2-  9mm magazines (1 with 14 round and 1 with 15 rounds),  1- Interarm .380 handgun,  1-  Taurus 9mm handgun,  1- Glock 19 handgun,  1-  KelTec 12 gauge handgun,  13-  12 gauge shotgun rounds, 1-  AR15 rifle, 1-  Soft sided gun case, 2-  AR15 magazines, 59-  AR15 rounds, 1-  combination lock
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Search_Warrant_with_Affidavit_Returned.pdf
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Post by Nan11 Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:47 am

So here he is running around with all these guns--hopefully locked in a suitcase--pretending he is homeless and without even a contact; plus lists attorney Mark O'Mara as his mailing address.


Click Orlando | George Zimmerman seeks return of pocketknife, phone
Zimmerman's public defender files motion
Published On: Nov 25 2013 02:13:32 PM EST Updated On: Nov 25 2013 02:38:55 PM EST


According to Zimmerman's intake interview sheet, obtained by Local 6 on Monday, Zimmerman said he was homeless and lists defense attorney Mark O'Mara as his mailing address. Zimmerman told jail staff he did not have an emergency contact  and said he is unemployed.

Read more:  http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-seeks-return-of-pocketknife-phone/-/1637132/23149290/-/fp6f4e/-/index.html

TMZ | Deputies Find Gun Stockpile
11/26/2013 8:10 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

George Zimmerman was well armed last week when he was arrested for domestic violence ...

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Post by Nan11 Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:55 am

Freckles wrote:George Zimmerman: A man and his guns
By Jonathan Capehart November 26 at 4:20 pm


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/11/26/george-zimmerman-a-man-and-his-guns/

Interesting pic...
That's an excellent read, Freckles.  Interesting comments, too--concerning how much ammunition would equate an arsenal.

As far as the picture goes; well, there is a word that comes to my mind when I look at it.  It is not a swear word, but it something that most people wouldn't like to be called.

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Post by justanopinion Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:10 pm

I am speechless!! gobsmacked!! and sitting here with my chin on the floor! JMO
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Post by justanopinion Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:14 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/11/26/george-zimmerman-a-man-and-his-guns/

the comment at the bottom that Shellie makes about hoping none else gets hurt…

all I can say is that if someone I knew was killed by GZ in light of recent activities.. I would be suing someone for manslaughter… there have been enough red flags now that this man is a danger to society… he needs to be off the streets… not getting knives back.. not buying more guns!! JMO





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