Jodi Arias -- Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #8

Ms. Gibson wrote:Newbie here...sorry if I'm in the wrong thread for this, but has anyone else considered, or is their a discussion here somewhere of the possibility that Jodi had an accomplice? thanks.

carlakay wrote:

18thcenturylady wrote:Courtesy of 18thcenturylady and her 18thcenturygentleman!



"The latest defense witness takes his lunch break"

bwahahahahaha absolutely awesome...made me spew my coffee..lol'd and woke the hubby...just perfect...

Mylife101 wrote:JAO wrote: I don't think the Dr. likes Juan he keeps glaring at him. I have seen the look that Dr.S shoots Juan just before he hides the pages... it was defiance!

I'm sure he despises Juan! Juan has exposed his considerable incompetence and bias. He must realize that his future earnings will plummet as a result of being exposed on national television as a blubbering idiot. Oh the shame!

18thcenturylady wrote:...As for the Jodi pill popping incident...Does anyone know what the story is behind that now? Obviously she did it, but what was it? Who gave it to her? Any diciplinary action?
I did find out that even if she was given something by jail personnel/sheriff's office, she would not be allowed to keep it and have it on her person---She would have had to take it in their presence.
Looks VERY BAD for the jury to see her popping that pill, (LOL!!!)---Her attorneys are really stupid! Did they even know until they saw it later on video???

Since I haven't seen the trial in a couple days, if someone could direct me to answers for above, I would really appreciate it!

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Freckles wrote:

tesstruhart wrote:OMG , JA gonna be responsible for uptick in Psychological counseling for the masses.

Well, IMO, when the verdict comes in, JA WILL be suffering PTSD then, for sure!

Wilmott sounds like a first year law student doing practice runs in a class room!
Wow... This is bad.

carlakay wrote:Well lady I imagine the reasoning behind the fact there has been so much testimony left out from Travis' friends regarding Jodi's erratic behaviour is due to it not really being needed. This is a fairly simple case..she admitted to killing him so all they really needed to do was prove premeditation,which I feel Juan made perfectly clear with the gas can;receipts and liscence plate tinkering.Plus the fact she flat out said she chose to run into the closet because she remembered the gun rather than out the bedroom door to freedom IS a premeditated act. Forget the fog..the fact she refuses to divulge any information regarding the knife is very telling.Baboon's own testimony about PTSD does not do anything to explain how she could suddenly snap out of this fog only AFTER staging and washing a body;tampering around with a crime scene in various ways;removing evidence from that home and disposing of it "somewhere" and making a clean get away.

Freckles wrote:

carlakay wrote:hi Pianist and welcome..this is a great site..the folder sneak was played on HLN today. She slid it to where it was mostly blocked by the monitor in front of her but you could still see a small corner of it on the left side..she then apparently picked a wedgie..lol
As for the pill..you could be right..probably are but OMG it was such a blatant f u to the entire proceedings by her and whoever else was involved. I never thought I could despise a total stranger more than totmom but lil chica is on same level of scum with me now.

Welll.... look again! After she plumps it down in front of her, she apparently "picks another wedgie..." I don't think her britches are that tight and I don't think her undies are... hmm... thongs?

carlakay wrote:

18thcenturylady wrote:...As for the Jodi pill popping incident...Does anyone know what the story is behind that now? Obviously she did it, but what was it? Who gave it to her? Any diciplinary action?
I did find out that even if she was given something by jail personnel/sheriff's office, she would not be allowed to keep it and have it on her person---She would have had to take it in their presence.
Looks VERY BAD for the jury to see her popping that pill, (LOL!!!)---Her attorneys are really stupid! Did they even know until they saw it later on video???

Since I haven't seen the trial in a couple days, if someone could direct me to answers for above, I would really appreciate it!

I been searching and the info on this is nowhere to be found. We ALL know she put something in her mouth but not sure we will ever be privy to the what when how and why of it..like I said yesterday it was a huge infraction to of happened in front of the jury and CAMERAS and more than just Jodi got smacked down over it,I bet.

carlakay wrote:

auman58 wrote:I find it very disturbing that there are CA/JA's out there that can kill a "loved one" and then go on their merry way as if it were on their "to do" list. Where do these kids come from?
As an aside, anyone who is prone to murderous blackouts should not be allowed to walk the streets......ever again.

Hi and welcome..It is disturbing but there are more out there than people realize. I believe "these kids" are born that way..their has been studies proving their brains are vastly different and I believe the major factor in wether or not they grow up to be sociopathic killers is how they are parented. A childs early years are extremely important..not just for them but for us all. Really wish people as a whole could wrap their minds round that.

colsnipe wrote:

carlakay wrote:

I been searching and the info on this is nowhere to be found. We ALL know she put something in her mouth but not sure we will ever be privy to the what when how and why of it..like I said yesterday it was a huge infraction to of happened in front of the jury and CAMERAS and more than just Jodi got smacked down over it,I bet.

Try TawniDilly(sp?) on youtube.

justanopinion wrote:

carlakay wrote:

Hi and welcome..It is disturbing but there are more out there than people realize. I believe "these kids" are born that way..their has been studies proving their brains are vastly different and I believe the major factor in wether or not they grow up to be sociopathic killers is how they are parented. A childs early years are extremely important..not just for them but for us all. Really wish people as a whole could wrap their minds round that.

Welcome auman58!! @ Carla funny thing is that there are studies regarding the development of Cerebral Cortex in fetus' and how during that development trauma or maternal anxiety can affect personality or cause mental illness. The understanding of the human brain is still so in its infancy it drove me nuts as to how simplistic and erroneous Dr.S was... He would have been further ahead to show that Hodi was an undiagnosed borderline personality disordered individual who if she had received treatment prior to meeting TA this would never have occurred. However, PTSD is the diagnosis of the week.

Bmore wrote:I do find it interesting that we weren't suppose to have court today and now all of a sudden we can? Thank you poor vomiting woman...

carlakay wrote:

Bmore wrote:I do find it interesting that we weren't suppose to have court today and now all of a sudden we can? Thank you poor vomiting woman...

I wonder if the jury hasn't voiced the same complaints about all the lollygagging as we have?

18thcenturylady wrote:

carlakay wrote:Well lady I imagine the reasoning behind the fact there has been so much testimony left out from Travis' friends regarding Jodi's erratic behaviour is due to it not really being needed. This is a fairly simple case..she admitted to killing him so all they really needed to do was prove premeditation,which I feel Juan made perfectly clear with the gas can;receipts and liscence plate tinkering.Plus the fact she flat out said she chose to run into the closet because she remembered the gun rather than out the bedroom door to freedom IS a premeditated act. Forget the fog..the fact she refuses to divulge any information regarding the knife is very telling.Baboon's own testimony about PTSD does not do anything to explain how she could suddenly snap out of this fog only AFTER staging and washing a body;tampering around with a crime scene in various ways;removing evidence from that home and disposing of it "somewhere" and making a clean get away.

Jury now has at least 100 questions for this idiot. Some now saying that IF this jury really realized she's a pathological liar, they would be thinking 'enough already, we get it' and NOT have questions for this guy! They would want to get the rest of this trial done and begin deliberating!
I have to say I had thought this myself last night. I don't think it's a good sign that they have all these questions for Samuels...

I also think the jury does need to hear about specific instances of Jodi's jealousy, obsession, rage, etc.----Jury may find her guilty, but for murder one I think they want to know her mindset----And that DOES NOT MEAN THE MINDSET ACCORDING TO SAMUELS!

justanopinion wrote:Dr. S testified he had only interviewed Jodi, no family. He says he watched interviews, videos etc.. read Jodi's journal..blah blah...

Testifies that from an interview of the brother there is a knife incident at 13...

Where is the media interview with the brother??
as this is the only way Dr.S could see an interview!!

justanopinion wrote:Dr. S testified he had only interviewed Jodi, no family. He says he watched interviews, videos etc.. read Jodi's journal..blah blah...

Testifies that from an interview of the brother there is a knife incident at 13...

Where is the media interview with the brother??
as this is the only way Dr.S could see an interview!!

Bmore wrote:I hope JM on rebutt sets the story straight... I think he needed JA to ramble on to give him more to work with, he can address all her BS now... I think he needs to explain, you heard JA's testimony on her version of her relationship with TA. And bring in people in the "know" that can explain what they saw, Clauncy, Zion, Church elder, whoever else TA confided in about sex/relationship with JA (Zion said there were a few other people beside church people that did get full disclosure from TA), Dave Hall (gun), etc... I don't think they had as much sex as she says... Other than talking dirty on the sex tape about fantasies, what did TA actually admit to? They took a candle lit bubble bath together, that doesn't mean actual sex, it could of just been all work up appreciating each other's bodies... I don't think it was this hedonistic sex fest...

18thcenturylady wrote:

Freckles wrote:Clancy:
Had an event.
JA showed up--- UNINVITED.
TA was letting people stay overnight at his home.
She insisted on staying there.
He slept in his office so girls could have his bed.
JA announced in front of @ 30 people she was TA's gf--- and TA had a gf there!
TA denounced her-- told the group he had dated her a few times was all.
Told JA he would see her the next day.
She refused to leave.
On the stand, she said she spent the night on the couch: LIE. She slept under the Christmas tree!

http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

There is no info on the above at this link. Can anyone please give me some other info on where to find out more about this??

Weeziethm wrote:The Heat is JUAN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJgkugEsZWI

justanopinion wrote:Dr. S testified he had only interviewed Jodi, no family. He says he watched interviews, videos etc.. read Jodi's journal..blah blah...

Testifies that from an interview of the brother there is a knife incident at 13...

Where is the media interview with the brother??
as this is the only way Dr.S could see an interview!!

colsnipe wrote:Sorry for the out bursts...i am trying to read and post at the same time. so it sounds like i am flooding the board for all.

Freckles, carakay, 18th, all thank you. and if i left you out sorry. Brain fog!

Freckles wrote:

justanopinion wrote:Dr. S testified he had only interviewed Jodi, no family. He says he watched interviews, videos etc.. read Jodi's journal..blah blah...

Testifies that from an interview of the brother there is a knife incident at 13...

Where is the media interview with the brother??
as this is the only way Dr.S could see an interview!!

Where is the police report?
I will believe it when I see it.

Re the brother:
Is this Carl, the one Dad sposedly broke his "hand"?
Well, if the hand was broken due to physical violence in the home, DHS/CPS would have records; the school would have records. I call BS on physical violence. Now, Carl MAY have INJURED a hand screwing around and maybe even while screwing around helping Dad, ie, load a boat, run up a ladder, wrestling; more likely, he injured it falling off a bike, out of a tree, jumping on a trampoline, etc. IF it ever was injured.

Again. JA produces a LOT of lip with no solid evidence.
All the solid evidence points directly at one person: Jodi Arias
All the lip points directly to one person: Jodi Arias
All the lies point to one entity: The defense team and their "witnesses"

You add it up! Or subtract it.

Ms. Gibson wrote:Newbie here...sorry if I'm in the wrong thread for this, but has anyone else considered, or is their a discussion here somewhere of the possibility that Jodi had an accomplice? thanks.

carlakay wrote:Well lady I imagine the reasoning behind the fact there has been so much testimony left out from Travis' friends regarding Jodi's erratic behaviour is due to it not really being needed. This is a fairly simple case..she admitted to killing him so all they really needed to do was prove premeditation,which I feel Juan made perfectly clear with the gas can;receipts and liscence plate tinkering.Plus the fact she flat out said she chose to run into the closet because she remembered the gun rather than out the bedroom door to freedom IS a premeditated act. Forget the fog..the fact she refuses to divulge any information regarding the knife is very telling.Baboon's own testimony about PTSD does not do anything to explain how she could suddenly snap out of this fog only AFTER staging and washing a body;tampering around with a crime scene in various ways;removing evidence from that home and disposing of it "somewhere" and making a clean get away.

18thcenturylady wrote:Did not see anything yesterday. I heard hear about the interviews with Travis' friend Zion, and with Clancy Talbot. Saw only this clip of Clancy:

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/20/friend-travis-alexander-clancy-talbot-prosecution-witness-list

It DOES NOT talk about the party at Travis's house and Jodi sleeping under his Christmas tree. Can someone provide a video of the REST of the interview with Clancy Talbot?
Also, WHY is she not STILL on the prosecution's witness list? No Clancy for rebuttal?

Ann - Tx wrote:
For you, Freckles;

Weeziethm wrote:

Bmore wrote:I hope JM on rebutt sets the story straight... I think he needed JA to ramble on to give him more to work with, he can address all her BS now... I think he needs to explain, you heard JA's testimony on her version of her relationship with TA. And bring in people in the "know" that can explain what they saw, Clauncy, Zion, Church elder, whoever else TA confided in about sex/relationship with JA (Zion said there were a few other people beside church people that did get full disclosure from TA), Dave Hall (gun), etc... I don't think they had as much sex as she says... Other than talking dirty on the sex tape about fantasies, what did TA actually admit to? They took a candle lit bubble bath together, that doesn't mean actual sex, it could of just been all work up appreciating each other's bodies... I don't think it was this hedonistic sex fest...

Adding Skye and Chris Hughes!

Freckles wrote:

carlakay wrote:Well lady I imagine the reasoning behind the fact there has been so much testimony left out from Travis' friends regarding Jodi's erratic behaviour is due to it not really being needed. This is a fairly simple case..she admitted to killing him so all they really needed to do was prove premeditation,which I feel Juan made perfectly clear with the gas can;receipts and liscence plate tinkering.Plus the fact she flat out said she chose to run into the closet because she remembered the gun rather than out the bedroom door to freedom IS a premeditated act. Forget the fog..the fact she refuses to divulge any information regarding the knife is very telling.Baboon's own testimony about PTSD does not do anything to explain how she could suddenly snap out of this fog only AFTER staging and washing a body;tampering around with a crime scene in various ways;removing evidence from that home and disposing of it "somewhere" and making a clean get away.

Brilliant point! When given the opportunity (chance) to leave, she chose to stay and to use the gun followed by the knife. Further implicating her was taking the weapons with her; showering before leaving the property; loading her belongings into the car;
discarding of the knives, clothing, gun, floor mats; washing her hands, steering wheel (and possibly the Kool-Aid styled stains) off blood...then the many cover-up phone calls. These are marks of a RATIONAL brain attempting a cover-up. No fog in the activities. No fog when she filled the vehicle with gas, either.

Where did she get the band-aides? She steal those from the downstairs bathroom?