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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:03 pm

Bobby Juarez in Hawaii:
There are additional Hawaiian vids by same contributor:
@ 00:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWZmckn_j24

Clarifying comments re JA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rN6c40Hsko

Gives name, Loren; speaks of her healing beliefs re JA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=0H3UJ9LjwL0&feature=endscreen

Now: This is the same person sharing her personal info.
Apparently, she was from Washington state.
She is 23 years old now compared to JA saying Bobby was 3-4 years old than JA....
I am guessing Bobby must be about 35 ?
Note the text comment re her relationship to Bobby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfRCfQg-jA





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Post by sitemama Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:06 pm

LoriKaye, I could not get your link above to work. Could you check it so we can click on it?
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Post by tesstruhart Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:19 pm

Katiecoolady, Beth Karas and Holly Hughes on radio talking JA case
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/15/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern
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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:54 pm

LoriKaye wrote:This from JA's journal was obviously written to spook someone that may be involved somehow to get this person (MM) to go along with whatever it is that she is cooking up. Or Else!!!. So My question is.. Any one here know who is in Jodi's world drives a Yellow truck ??http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjogbm

Ok. I tracked down the source for the twitter.
It is from CNN and Nancy Grace.
Interesting transcript, IMO.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1304/05/ng.01.html

"GRACE: We obtained about 600 pages of Jodi Arias`s private diaries. Frankly, I think she fabricated the diaries. It shows she lives in an alternate universe that`s created out of her own lies.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I had a dream last night that two people were charged in the case of Travis Alexander. One person was charged with murder, and one was charged with conspiracy. The one charged with murder was in custody, and the one charged with conspiracy was not yet arrested on some contingency having to do with legal matters in some jurisdiction, like FBI or something. I was riding in someone`s yellow truck when I got the call. It was raining outside. Anyway, keep praying."

IMO First, remember JA is a liar; next, JA is a liar on trial for a murder which may send her to the death chamber. And JA is an accomplished liar.She is writing in her journals in some sort of "had a dream" and wants you to believe her dream. She has her reasons for you to believe her. (See colored above.)
The yellow truck JA is referring to? BS from JA. May have gotten idea from U-Haul.
Two people: JA is trying to distance her self as the sole murderer
She says one charged with MURDER and the other with CONSPIRACY.
The one charged with murder was in custody; the one charged with conspiracy had not been apprehended. JA states SHE is riding around in this yellow truck so in her mind, she is stating she believes she will NOT be charged with murder BUT may be charged with conspiracy; JA is stating SHE is free and on a ride in this sunshine-happy truck.
Jurisdiction, like FBI: Sure. EXTRADITION is a jurisdiction issue sometimes involving federal marshals.
Raining outside: May have been raining when she wrote this; she may be using rain to identify with tears and maybe she saw people crying; it would link in her mind as it does not rain in AZ in the summer time; not sure if it rains in Yreka in the summer or the day she wrote this...


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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:02 pm

LoriKaye-
If I have not welcomed you to RC, I apologize.
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Yes, I did see the vid you posted re Bobby Juarez from Hawaii. I did not have an opinion on it at the time I first saw it. I went back and watched ALL her vids and it does appear it may be the same person.

As for friending people? lol I have been here almost a year and I don't know if I have any "friends" signed on! Had a couple at one time but they have moved on... I think! For the most part, I regard my fellow posters with respect and accept the limitations of our written sharings in the postings... IMO, we are good people each with a slightly different perspective and separate interests that make this room come alive with our endeavors. its a beautiful thin
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Post by Ann - Tx Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:17 pm


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-guest-jodi-arias-tweeting-through-friend-is-another-example-of-her-breaking-all-the-rules/
Mediaite.com

Geraldo Guest: Jodi Arias’ Tweeting Through Friend Is Another Example Of Her ‘Breaking All The Rules’

by Garrett Quinn | 6:00 pm, April 14th, 2013



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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:28 pm

Ann-
Link to the text is good and the vid player there works;
I can't get the vid player you posted to work.
FYI
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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:59 pm

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/15/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

@23:00
--Discussed the possibility of restitution from JA to pay for the costs of the funeral, travel for court, etc..
--asking everyone to please send $10 for the family for their expenses
--Hearing tomorrow @ 9:30. Dunno if it has cameras or not
--Is Alyce ruined as an expert witness? Holly Hughes: Does not think Alyce took as big a hit as Dr. Samuels (Dr. Ducky) Alyce would not admit to the obvious; when she said JA lied but that does not make her a liar... Also, the defense has FAILED to prepare their witnesses! This opens the door for the prosecution to discredit...

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Post by Mylife101 Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:56 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
Mylife101 wrote:
Hi Stina,

freckles can probably do a more thorough job; but, I might be able to get you started.

The e-mail to Lisa Andrews (TA was dating her at the time) was in Dec 2007. The e-mail was not saved and LA has NOT testified to the basic content of it, eg.. "committing a whoredom, etc" to the best of my knowledge. There is no actual document to view. I believe this and the tire slashing was ruled unproven and prejudicial.

The name calling text was the infamous 5/26/2008 text message fight that most of us assume was the catalyst for Jodi putting her murderous plan in motion. Calypso has posted the screen shots of these texts in the "Court Documents" thread under the Jodi Arias trial. It is the 6th post down. Hope this helps. Razz

edited by me in red


I can guarantee this email was saved. I read the whole thing somewhere online, but I don't remember where.

Yes, you are right. Apparently, Lisa saved a printed copy and it is in the court doc's thread Razz
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Post by Ann - Tx Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:04 pm

Freckles wrote:Ann-
Link to the text is good and the vid player there works;
I can't get the vid player you posted to work.
FYI
Freckles, do you have the latest verson of Adobe Flash player?

The video works for me. I just checked it. An advertisement comes on first and then the video. About 7 min.

I wonder if others are having problems with playing the video.

Does it play for you at the link I provided? Please scroll down. The video I posted is in the lower part of the article.
~~~~~

Oops, Freckles . . . went back and read your comment again. It works for you at the website. Cool.
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Post by Mylife101 Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:07 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
Mylife101 wrote:

You didn't miss anything. It was not introduced at trial. I just went back and checked and LA only testified that Travis became angry and threw his phone after seeing "damage" to his car. It happened in the same time frame that someone (Um, Jodi) was slashing Travis and Lisa's tires. It was ruled prejudicial and is not admissable to the best of my knowledge. I will edit my post to reflect this. Thanks Razz


Funny how the fact that T. tossed his phone in anger comes out to jury, but the REASON for T's phone throw is not allowed to come out, AND the fact that that reason is that he tossed his phone in frustration upon finding tires slashed by STALKER Jodi is hidden! (CONTEXT, ALV! CONTEXT!!!!!!)

I know. It just stinks, stinks, stinks!!! They elicited this testimony from Lisa to demonstrate TA was prone to angry outbursts knowing dang well she was not allowed to say why he threw the phone.

I hope Jodi just had a miserable weekend in jail. I remember how she seemed to "light up" when Alyce took the stand. JA thought she was saved because what jury wouldn't believe an amazing "expert" like ALV. After the smack-down from Juan and the juror questions this week, Jodi must be just devastated. She has got to know she has lost, and lost BIG!!! She has got to know her only hope now is a mistrial. As for the rest of us....I think a mistrial is the only thing we have left to fear. This jury hates Jodi....they just hate her! My opinion of course. Very Happy
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Post by auman58 Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:19 pm

The talking heads were saying earlier this eve that the DT is trying to whittle the jury down to 11 to get a mistrial. They said that the latest juror didn't want to leave but the defense wanted him gone because he had a bad cough. This explains why team Jodi scrutinizes the jury everyday.
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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:19 pm

Bobby Juarez w/ Victor, Mario, Jodi
Pic 2

http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias/photos/18635808

Now this person DOES look like the Robert Juarez who was killed in a deliberate drive-by in SoCal--- the one who was married and had two small children.
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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:21 pm

Ann-
I don't have the latest Adobe.
My computer is on its last legs so I am going light on what I do with it. Just a simple little old computer...
Embarassed
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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:22 pm

auman58 wrote:The talking heads were saying earlier this eve that the DT is trying to whittle the jury down to 11 to get a mistrial. They said that the latest juror didn't want to leave but the defense wanted him gone because he had a bad cough. This explains why team Jodi scrutinizes the jury everyday.

I am listening to that right now on Tricia's True Crime Radio.
(Just click the link and you can hear the program from earlier today.)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/15/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern
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Post by Freckles Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:31 pm

Pic 12: Jodi's friend Chatanya --- the one she wanted a three way with, BTW, I did find her listed on JA's list as a friend.

http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias/photos/18635808#{%22ImageId%22%3A19482888}
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Post by Mylife101 Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:40 pm

LoriKaye wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:


I wish we could get more info on this. He must be aware of the trial. I wonder when it was that he called Jodi's mom---Long time ago? During this trial? You would think he might want to comment, if above is true, since JA threw him under the bus and painted him in a not so flattering light, (like almost everyone else).
I would love to know what he is thinking about all this. I wonder if he was suprised. Methinks that there were a few rough patches in the Arias/Darryl Brewer relationship too, that Darryl just chose not to mention.
Wish we could find out where BJ is, and his opinion on what's going down...
Hi.. I posted way back in #10 that Bobby was alive and living in Honolulu Hawaii. Got this info You Tube... Title is Bobby Jaurez Blackmail and abuse.. His ex girlfriend on a maui wowi high rambles a bit but gives up some tea..Around min 9 She talk's about his relationship with Jodi.. enjoy this is a fun one.

I just watched it LoriKaye. Yikes! This girl is ripped...poor thing. Bobby was about 3 years older than Jodi, so he would be about 35 now. This girl says she was in a 4 year relationship with him. She looks pretty young, maybe 21 - 23 years, I'm guessing. Not that the age diff is a big deal...just couldn't help but notice. She says Bobby hates JA. This is not surprising because I think the defense team would have flown him in from anywhere if they thought he would give "favorable" testimony. IMO

And last but not least...welcome, welcome, welcome. Quite a few of us are fairly "newbies" on this board. Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #13 - Page 20 864739
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Post by Mylife101 Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:47 pm

LoriKaye wrote:
Freckles wrote:
Proxy to boot.
Paul Stern, the man who loaned her money for the fatal trip to Mesa, said JA was ALWAYS using the computer in the restaurant in her off duty hours. That is how they met. And, the day he loaned her the money, she was , again, ON THE COMPUTER.
IIRC, the restaurant was something like the Vendatta?

Didn't JA take her laptop with her when she went to Travis' on that June 2008 trip?
Wondering about that.
Also, JA, in the PD interview with Det Flores, expressed concern over items she had in storage unit; asked if Matt could come and get her cameras and things as she supposedly had been paid for the wedding pics and had not delivered them...When I first heard this, I wondered IF a search warrant had been delivered on that unit? Were the cameras recovered? Any way to determine IF she had transferred images from a camera in the unit to her lap top to Travis' camera or his computer?

I find it interesting JA now, of late, has found a cell phone which she had reported missing. And the cell phone is sposed to have more sex talk recorded between JA and TA.. I smell a rat in this.... Where has Sue Allen, sister to Sandy, gone this past week?
Ooooh I never new JA had a storage unit and wanted Matt to get her camera's and stuff. Do you know if they let him. I'm sure the answer a big NO. I'm in the camp who thinks JA and MM together killed Travis, so anything about MM is of interest. Ive got some scoop regarding Paul Stern:He said in interviews that he lives in Big sur-- Not true.. He lives in Coyote Ridge Rd Aptos Ca. Million dollar home (lives with his parents) He was busted by Monterey PD in 2011 for DUI and Possession of Cocaine. Known drug dealer in Big Sur area. I got more if you want, let me know.. Also the computer she uses at the Ventanna Inn are property of hotel they are at the bar they rent by the hour for guest to use, like video poker games at the bar in casinos. She uses them for her dirty work.. Can't be linked to her that way..Sneaky that one..

Yes, indeed, Jodi is a sneaky, sneaky little witch . That is some interesting new information you are sharing about Paul Stern. New to me at least. May I ask where you heard or read it? Drug dealers usually have a lot of cash from their activities....so, it would make sense for JA to ask him for a loan...and it would make sense that she would want to get him paid back quickly as well. Hmm...
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Post by Freckles Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:35 am

I had done a search on the name Paul Stern. Can't recall the community but it is in the vicinity of Monterrey. Most of California's beach communities are rather affluent. Stern seemed to be older than JA --- probably closer in age to Darryl? According to what I had read/heard from network sources, Stern would go to the restaurant (where JA used to work) to use the internet and grab a bite. JA would use the restaurant computer when she was off duty; that is how Stern met JA. They had a platonic friendship which would be a first for JA, IMO.
(Seems her, "Howdy! Glad to meet you!" was more than a friendly smile and a handshake IMO. Roll in the hay with JA providing the KY seems more her style.)

While I will bot speculate on Stern's source of income, the Big Sur area, close to Monterrey, was a hippie hand-out during the 1960s from what I have read. IIRC, Timothy Leary had a place there.
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Post by Freckles Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:59 am

I have to ask:
JA is BROKE in April and mama is giving her/loaning her money to make the move back to Yreka. Even her move is expensive but she added to the U-Haul rental cost when the BMW broke down and she returned to Mesa for an extra THREE days!

Her car is being repo'ed which is why she wanted Travis' BMW and lenient pay terms;
a property she and Darryl had invested in is in foreclosure;
JA said her credit cards were maxed out;
so she moves to Yreka and starts a new job end of April/first of May;
in June, JA takes days off from work despite to make a return trip to Mesa and on to Utah;
JA said it was her "vacation" time but she had barely begun employment at the restaurant;
JA is lacking funds so borrows some cash from Paul Stern (Stern said JA desperately needed to get to her bf);

JA is BROKE in June 2008 BUT has enough money by July 15th, when she is arrested, to have PAID Paul Stern BACK, bought a gun, fly into Mesa for the memorial service... rented ANOTHER car for her "get away" the day she was arrested.

Where did JA get ALL this cash?
Trips cost money!
JA lives high on the hog with her waxes, nails being done, body lotions, hair coloring, Starbucks, cameras, phone service, not including car insurance/maintenance and fuel, etc..

IMO, this is the reason: JA was misusing Travis' ATM.
And THAT is what Travis was furious over!
She had stolen him blind when she moved in April.
Maybe, that was the reason she went BACK to his home when she was moving.. hit the ATM once more! She told detective Flores she HAD his ATM pin number...and she would have needed cash for the move...

Travis could no longer be bullied by her sexually; she had moved! He had seen his bishop and confessed! He was healing from the JA experience... until he found out his bank balance. And that is what he was going to tell her parents, the Freemans, EVERYONE about. She was totally dishonest and they needed warning. JA could NOT be discredited within the LDS community; she was not done going thru the males. In particular, Ryan Burns had been vetted as a top rising star in the PPL community and she was planning on hooking up with him --- it would also help her to "keep an eye" on Travis.

Of interest was the fact she DID go to the PPL meeting on Thursday. The community was expecting her on Wed and was concerned something may have happened to HER when she did not show and they could not reach her on the phone. This is of interest because she had sent a text or talked with Travis when she moved in April and told him she would NO longer be associated with PPL-- it was not working out, she was not making any sales/quotas... So. Why go in JUNE to a PPL?

JA has told us many times: She was scouting out her next bf and it was going to be Ryan whether he liked it or not. It was NOT PPL she was interested in--- that was only an excuse to get closer to her target.

I hope the computer expert Martinez brings in TELLS us more details such as any on-line banking Travis may have done...
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Post by 18thcenturylady Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:08 am

tesstruhart wrote:At least we know HE is alive.




I do not believe that Jodi has bi-polar disorder. While it is certain that she has certain other very serious psychological disorders, I do not accept that bi-polar is one of them. My former husband suffered from severe hereditary bi-polar, before taking his own life. This was in the 90's and there was very little info out there on this disease at the time. I had never heard of it. I knew very shortly after our marriage that something was drastically wrong, but couldn't identify what it was. Much later, I heard Robin Givens in an interview, discussing her own life with a bi-polar Mike Tyson and I could identify with everything.
I can tell you that no one could live for any length of time with someone who is bi-polar and not know something was seriously wrong. The manic rages are periodic, severe, without provocation, and involve serious emotional and verbal abuse, as well as physical in many cases.
There is NO WAY Darryl Brewer would or could not have known it if Jodi was bi-polar, and he most definitely would never have allowed his son to be around her. The rages of the manic are uncontrollable, and not able to be defused, no matter how and what one may try.
My former husband was undiagnosed until after his death, and it was a psychiatrist who one time explained bi-polar to me, and all his behavior.
I think everyone, even Jodi's parents knows and knew that something was wrong with her, but I can tell you that bi-polar disease is not what it is. The condition is impossible to hide, and by now the jail, and everyone in Jodi's life would know if indeed she was bi-polar.

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Post by 18thcenturylady Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:13 am

Freckles wrote:I have to ask:
JA is BROKE in April and mama is giving her/loaning her money to make the move back to Yreka. Even her move is expensive but she added to the U-Haul rental cost when the BMW broke down and she returned to Mesa for an extra THREE days!

Her car is being repo'ed which is why she wanted Travis' BMW and lenient pay terms;
a property she and Darryl had invested in is in foreclosure;
JA said her credit cards were maxed out;
so she moves to Yreka and starts a new job end of April/first of May;
in June, JA takes days off from work despite to make a return trip to Mesa and on to Utah;
JA said it was her "vacation" time but she had barely begun employment at the restaurant;
JA is lacking funds so borrows some cash from Paul Stern (Stern said JA desperately needed to get to her bf);

JA is BROKE in June 2008 BUT has enough money by July 15th, when she is arrested, to have PAID Paul Stern BACK, bought a gun, fly into Mesa for the memorial service... rented ANOTHER car for her "get away" the day she was arrested.

Where did JA get ALL this cash?
Trips cost money!
JA lives high on the hog with her waxes, nails being done, body lotions, hair coloring, Starbucks, cameras, phone service, not including car insurance/maintenance and fuel, etc..

IMO, this is the reason: JA was misusing Travis' ATM.
And THAT is what Travis was furious over!
She had stolen him blind when she moved in April.
Maybe, that was the reason she went BACK to his home when she was moving.. hit the ATM once more! She told detective Flores she HAD his ATM pin number...and she would have needed cash for the move...

Travis could no longer be bullied by her sexually; she had moved! He had seen his bishop and confessed! He was healing from the JA experience... until he found out his bank balance. And that is what he was going to tell her parents, the Freemans, EVERYONE about. She was totally dishonest and they needed warning. JA could NOT be discredited within the LDS community; she was not done going thru the males. In particular, Ryan Burns had been vetted as a top rising star in the PPL community and she was planning on hooking up with him --- it would also help her to "keep an eye" on Travis.

Of interest was the fact she DID go to the PPL meeting on Thursday. The community was expecting her on Wed and was concerned something may have happened to HER when she did not show and they could not reach her on the phone. This is of interest because she had sent a text or talked with Travis when she moved in April and told him she would NO longer be associated with PPL-- it was not working out, she was not making any sales/quotas... So. Why go in JUNE to a PPL?

JA has told us many times: She was scouting out her next bf and it was going to be Ryan whether he liked it or not. It was NOT PPL she was interested in--- that was only an excuse to get closer to her target.

I hope the computer expert Martinez brings in TELLS us more details such as any on-line banking Travis may have done...

I think you are right Freckles. I think something like that would have been the last straw for Travis. He would indeed be justifiably angry, but mostly he would have been hurt and felt very betrayed, which is what I heard in that email of May 26. I think that it was not only possibly something to do with stealing money/sneaking into his bank acct., but also the Steve Carroll bogus letter, and a few other of her lies he probably had discovered as well. Everything was coming out at once, and he was seeing that yes, she really was a liar and a sociopath, and far from being abusive, he was disgusted, betrayed, and calling her out on her deceit.
She probably bought herself a few days by giving him some lame sob-story excuse. One she arrived at his home on June 4th, I feel sure that she used his angry email, and said something like she had to come all that way to speak to him and try to make it right; pay him back, apologize for her actions---Something like that, just to get the poor guy to let her in.
I dearly hope that this is what Juan's computer expert has in store for us! I think it's exactly what the jury would love to see.

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Just a few thought, MOO~
I think rumors are rampant in this case. First, about the supposed "3 way" Jodi wanted to have with her friend Chytanya---Not buying that at all. Jodi couldn't even stand for Travis to speak to another woman. No control in a 3 way---the guy might like the other woman better. Jodi wanted to be Mrs. Alexander, and was focused on that. No way do I believe a 3 way was EVER going to happen. IMO, this is a stupid rumor.

In looking at the photo of Jodi with Mario, Bobby, etc.---IF that is in fact Bobby Juarez, he looks nothing like that photo of actor Bobby that was found and posted here. Of course, the 'actor Bobby' could be him, but again, I would have to see more about him to be convinced.
I also saw the tape on Youtube with the girl who says she was his gf and he abused her. This tape IMO is really creepy and VERY unreliable. IF in fact she was abused, she should have gone to police. Even if she was, and even if it was by the correct Bobby, it has nothing to do with this case. The video seemed self serving and suspect to me.

I thought that the defense was done with their case. I had heard that Ms. Wong, or Wu, or whoever it is is supposed to testify today in a hearing regarding prosecutorial misconduct, and not as a part of the defense case per se. I could be wrong, but that is what I read somewhere.

I am sure Jodi did have a storage unit, and if she mentioned that to Det. Flores, you can bet your life that a search warrant was issued with lightening speed---After all for all they knew Brainiac could have stashed the gun or other incriminating evidence there. While we may not know the outcome of said search, you can be assured it was done, and Matt most certainly was NOT the one to go hopping over there to retrieve Jodi's things.

So many things are not substantiated. I for one am done now watching anymore until Juan's rebuttal case. I think that is the only thing that is going to matter now. Alyce is done for. I really do not see the defense getting a mistrial. I for one am going to focus only on the facts I know Juan will bring out in rebuttal. Hopefully that will be the nail in the coffin for Jodi and her team.

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Post by Calypso Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:15 am

Trueblue wrote:post ...from a WS post. I know that you are looking for this letter and I found it by accident, I am not very computer savvy , so I hope I have transferred this properly.

... text from the anonymous email sent to Lisa, right after the tire slashing:

"You are a shameful whore. Your Heavenly Father must be deeply ashamed of the whoredoms you've committed with that insidious man. If you let him stay in your bed one more time or even sleep under the same roof as him, you will be giving the appearance of evil. You are driving, away the Holy Ghost. and you are wasting your time. You are also compromising your salvation and breaking your baptismal covenants. Of all the commandments to break, committing acts of whoredom is one of the most displeasing in the eyes of the Lord. You cannot be ashamed enough of yourself. You are filthy, and you need to repent and become clean in the eyes of God. Think about your future husband, and how you disrespect not only yourself, but him, as well as the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Is that what you want for yourself? Your future , your salvation, and your posterity is resting on your choices and actions . You are a daughter of God, and you have been a shameful example. Be thou clean, sin no more. Heavenly Father loves you and wants you to make the right choices. I know you are strong enough to choose the right. Your Father in Heaven is pulling for you. Don't ignore the promptings you receive, because they are vital to your spiritual well-being.'


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Post by Freckles Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:34 am

18thcl said"
" Not buying that at all. Jodi couldn't even stand for Travis to speak to another woman. No control in a 3 way---the guy might like the other woman better. "
--- It was JA who suggested it, not Travis. I seriously doubt if the recent virgin would have been comfortable in a 3-way. JA even said SHE suggested it. It may have just been another way to keep him roped in and eventually blackmailed into marrying her...

-- Anyone who is being abused needs to let others know and that means law enforcement, too. Counseling is often available free through colleges...

-- You are correct! Ms. Wong IS to testify today! Thanks for jogging my brain.

--The storage unit: JA volunteered this info to Flores and asked Flores IF her good friend, Matt, could get her camera and a few other things from the unit; JA stated she wanted her mother to have the camera as it had wedding pics and pics of her sis... who was in rehab somewhere... Personally, IMO, there were things on the camera/in storage she did NOT want her mother to see so that is why Matt was sposed to drive all the way to Yreka or Redding to get into the unit... I wonder if some of her grandparent's stolen property was in there?




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Post by Freckles Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:36 am

good morning
Now everyone is awake, I am going off-duty!
Catch you on the rebound! Rolling Eyes
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Post by Calypso Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:41 am

Freckles wrote: good morning
Now everyone is awake, I am going off-duty!
Catch you on the rebound! Rolling Eyes

See how ya are??!

Excellent post by the way!!
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Freckles wrote:I have to ask:
JA is BROKE in April and mama is giving her/loaning her money to make the move back to Yreka. Even her move is expensive but she added to the U-Haul rental cost when the BMW broke down and she returned to Mesa for an extra THREE days!

Her car is being repo'ed which is why she wanted Travis' BMW and lenient pay terms;
a property she and Darryl had invested in is in foreclosure;
JA said her credit cards were maxed out;
so she moves to Yreka and starts a new job end of April/first of May;
in June, JA takes days off from work despite to make a return trip to Mesa and on to Utah;
JA said it was her "vacation" time but she had barely begun employment at the restaurant;
JA is lacking funds so borrows some cash from Paul Stern (Stern said JA desperately needed to get to her bf);

JA is BROKE in June 2008 BUT has enough money by July 15th, when she is arrested, to have PAID Paul Stern BACK, bought a gun, fly into Mesa for the memorial service... rented ANOTHER car for her "get away" the day she was arrested.

Where did JA get ALL this cash?
Trips cost money!
JA lives high on the hog with her waxes, nails being done, body lotions, hair coloring, Starbucks, cameras, phone service, not including car insurance/maintenance and fuel, etc..

IMO, this is the reason: JA was misusing Travis' ATM.
And THAT is what Travis was furious over!
She had stolen him blind when she moved in April.
Maybe, that was the reason she went BACK to his home when she was moving.. hit the ATM once more! She told detective Flores she HAD his ATM pin number...and she would have needed cash for the move...

Travis could no longer be bullied by her sexually; she had moved! He had seen his bishop and confessed! He was healing from the JA experience... until he found out his bank balance. And that is what he was going to tell her parents, the Freemans, EVERYONE about. She was totally dishonest and they needed warning. JA could NOT be discredited within the LDS community; she was not done going thru the males. In particular, Ryan Burns had been vetted as a top rising star in the PPL community and she was planning on hooking up with him --- it would also help her to "keep an eye" on Travis.

Of interest was the fact she DID go to the PPL meeting on Thursday. The community was expecting her on Wed and was concerned something may have happened to HER when she did not show and they could not reach her on the phone. This is of interest because she had sent a text or talked with Travis when she moved in April and told him she would NO longer be associated with PPL-- it was not working out, she was not making any sales/quotas... So. Why go in JUNE to a PPL?

JA has told us many times: She was scouting out her next bf and it was going to be Ryan whether he liked it or not. It was NOT PPL she was interested in--- that was only an excuse to get closer to her target.

I hope the computer expert Martinez brings in TELLS us more details such as any on-line banking Travis may have done...

Starting early!!!

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Post by 18thcenturylady Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:58 am

Freckles wrote:18thcl said"
" Not buying that at all. Jodi couldn't even stand for Travis to speak to another woman. No control in a 3 way---the guy might like the other woman better. "
--- It was JA who suggested it, not Travis. I seriously doubt if the recent virgin would have been comfortable in a 3-way. JA even said SHE suggested it. It may have just been another way to keep him roped in and eventually blackmailed into marrying her...

I never heard her say she suggested this. Until I see a transcript or something, I don't believe it. I am sure Travis would not have bought into it in any case, but I also don't think Jodi ever suggested it.

-- Anyone who is being abused needs to let others know and that means law enforcement, too. Counseling is often available free through colleges...

-- You are correct! Ms. Wong IS to testify today! Thanks for jogging my brain.

Grace Wong is not testifying for Jodi. Her testimony has nothing to do with the defense case, but was to be in a hearing today about alleged prosecutorial misconduct.

--The storage unit: JA volunteered this info to Flores and asked Flores IF her good friend, Matt, could get her camera and a few other things from the unit; JA stated she wanted her mother to have the camera as it had wedding pics and pics of her sis... who was in rehab somewhere... Personally, IMO, there were things on the camera/in storage she did NOT want her mother to see so that is why Matt was sposed to drive all the way to Yreka or Redding to get into the unit... I wonder if some of her grandparent's stolen property was in there?

Even if Matt did eventually get into her storage facility, you can be it was AFTER the cops were done going over it with a fine tooth comb. Anything of any evidentiary value would have been taken by the police.






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I tried to embed Tricia's talk radio show that aired last night here, for everyone. I hope I did it right! If not, I am so sorry~

Completely disagree w/ Holly Hughes who right off the bat is criticizing Juan's aggressive style with ALV, and saying how wrong he is, and how he is probably alienating the jury. Tricia agrees with her! I SAY HOGWASH, and it upsets me to hear that because Juan has a duty to fight for justice for Travis and his family, and it's been an up hill battle with every single lying, disrespectful defense witness who refuse to answer a question! She also said that HE hurt ALV's reputation. BS, BS, BS! THAT NASTY STUPID WOMAN DID THAT ALL BY HERSELF IMO!

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I tried to embed Tricia's talk radio show that aired last night here, for everyone. I hope I did it right! If not, I am so sorry~

Completely disagree w/ Holly Hughes who right off the bat is criticizing Juan's aggressive style with ALV, and saying how wrong he is, and how he is probably alienating the jury. Tricia agrees with her! I SAY HOGWASH, and it upsets me to hear that because Juan has a duty to fight for justice for Travis and his family, and it's been an up hill battle with every single lying, disrespectful defense witness who refuse to answer a question! She also said that HE hurt ALV's reputation. BS, BS, BS! THAT NASTY STUPID WOMAN DID THAT ALL BY HERSELF IMO!

Katiecoolady is on this broadcast, and Beth Karas, and I like hearing what they have to say.

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18thcenturylady wrote:
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I tried to embed Tricia's talk radio show that aired last night here, for everyone. I hope I did it right! If not, I am so sorry~

Completely disagree w/ Holly Hughes who right off the bat is criticizing Juan's aggressive style with ALV, and saying how wrong he is, and how he is probably alienating the jury. Tricia agrees with her! I SAY HOGWASH, and it upsets me to hear that because Juan has a duty to fight for justice for Travis and his family, and it's been an up hill battle with every single lying, disrespectful defense witness who refuse to answer a question! She also said that HE hurt ALV's reputation. BS, BS BS! THAT NASTY STUPID WOMAN DID THAT ALL BY HERSELF IMO!

Katiecoolady is on this broadcast, and Beth Karas, and I like hearing what they have to say.

Couldn't agree more, 18th! Juan is the bomb! I highly doubt that JM is alienating the jury based on the questions the jury asked. This jury is embracing JM's points and forcing the witnesses to follow through on a lot of points that JM either couldn't ask or the witness played evasive or dumb on. I truly believe this jury is lovin' Juan and are tired of putting up with time wasting DT evasive witnesses. They are probable thinking shut up or answer the dang question already!

Just thinkin'....I remember that early in this case there were some (even on this board) who thought JM was "over the top" and too aggresive. Fast forward to today....now just about everybody LOVES JUAN! Sometimes it just takes a little getting to know someone to understand and appreciate them and their individual style. I don't see why this wouldn't apply to the jury's sentiment toward JM as well. After all, they are people just like all of us...and we all know how we collectively (and individually) feel about this. Do you agree?

As a RC jury....I do believe every one of us would vote to convict today, M1. Death penalty...not sure how that vote would go? I personally would have no qualms voting for the DP for Jodi. Cases like this are what the DP exists for, IMO.

OK, got my two cents in on this fine Monday morning. Hope you all had a great weekend! Feel free to add your two cents if you agree or disagree. Razz
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Post by 18thcenturylady Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:00 am

Ok everyone, here is another juicy long piece from Chris Stark this past Saturday. She goes into the Hughes' emails and much more. It also explains WHY Sky H. was 'pissed' with Travis---(has to do with her friend who dated T. for 7 years, Deanna. REALLY puts it all in perspective, and I wish the jury had this info. I found this very interesting, and it puts the so-called "nasty" emails from the Hughes' to Travis in CONTEXT (!) (Yeah, Alyce and DT---CONTEXT!)

FROM CHRIS STARK'S TWITLONGER SITE, 4/13/13: (Her words, from her site in red)

"#JodiArias The Chris Hughes Emails / Pedophile Letters Explained:

Nurmi called Sky and told Sky that Travis was a pedophile, and that the letters were authenticated. All proven lies of Nurmi's

Nurmo tolds Sky that Travis had a sexual thing for Chris/Sky Hughes son.
The son who wears Spider Man underwear. Sky/Chris think what Nurmi did - the "big lie" as Motivation to try and get Chris/Sky to state negative things about Travis.

The emails have nothing to do with the above paragraph. The EMAILS are about Travis BFF telling Travis he has commitment issues because of his childhood abuse and that Travis did not deal with the emotional and physical abuse. Hence, Travis is a BIG FLIRT and Serial Dater.

Travis dated Deanna on and off for 7 years. NO SEX.

**In MY Words** - Travis used the BEST years of Deanna's life and left her now - too old to get married....this is WHY Sky was pissed at Travis.

Plus Travis kept seeing Deanna = giving her mixed signals in a way leading her on, in MY words, i think Deanna put up with it as desperate hope that Travis would change his mind - IMO. Travis told her to date other men. Deanna was well aware as was all of their friends that Travis was dating everything with 2 legs--imo

A LDS / Mormon female finding a mate over the age of 30 - harsh reality

Sky wanted Travis to settle down and marry.

Sky at first thought Jodi would be great to marry Travis. Travis spent Oct 2006 to Feb 2007 NOT DATING JODI. But Travis and Jodi were GROUP going on Outings, camping, traveling.

Sky was pissed Travis was repeating his pattern. Jodi made it clear she wanted to get married and was 25 yr old. Travis refused to make it official. HENCE THE FEB 2007 EMAILS

Victim Jodi also cried to Sky about lies...THAT IS WHEN--AFTER THE EMAILS - Sky said Jodi was no longer welcomed in their home. WHY - after the emails - Sky and Travis figured out Jodi was lying.

MOST IMPORTANT TO KNOW in the LDS (MORMON) culture, you are to date, to marry. While dating, the second you figure out, this is not the female/male I wanted to marry, you are to break it off.

Dating someone - example, you both are 25+, dating someone for more than 2 years and not getting married, is frowned upon. Either marry or move on.. don't waste the girls baby making years - in my opinion.

The church name and religion is called

The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints (church of jesus from the people before of)
L . D . S .

The church dislikes the nickname MORMON

just like we cant call people a homo, we have to say homosexual, we need to learn to say LDS Church or LDS and not Mormon.

While i have you here... You can attend church every Sunday and be loved and embraced while being openly gay, a dunkard, a slut, sexually active, even if you killed all the kitties, you can attend church. Just like the Catholic Church, you may not participate in Sacrament until you speak with a Priest, in the LDS Church you speak with the Bishop. Same job, same role, just 2 different names.


Everything Alyce said about the LDS Religion is false"



http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjoe52

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Mylife101 wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:
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I tried to embed Tricia's talk radio show that aired last night here, for everyone. I hope I did it right! If not, I am so sorry~

Completely disagree w/ Holly Hughes who right off the bat is criticizing Juan's aggressive style with ALV, and saying how wrong he is, and how he is probably alienating the jury. Tricia agrees with her! I SAY HOGWASH, and it upsets me to hear that because Juan has a duty to fight for justice for Travis and his family, and it's been an up hill battle with every single lying, disrespectful defense witness who refuse to answer a question! She also said that HE hurt ALV's reputation. BS, BS BS! THAT NASTY STUPID WOMAN DID THAT ALL BY HERSELF IMO!

Katiecoolady is on this broadcast, and Beth Karas, and I like hearing what they have to say.

Couldn't agree more, 18th! Juan is the bomb! I highly doubt that JM is alienating the jury based on the questions the jury asked. This jury is embracing JM's points and forcing the witnesses to follow through on a lot of points that JM either couldn't ask or the witness played evasive or dumb on. I truly believe this jury is lovin' Juan and are tired of putting up with time wasting DT evasive witnesses. They are probable thinking shut up or answer the dang question already!

Just thinkin'....I remember that early in this case there were some (even on this board) who thought JM was "over the top" and too aggresive. Fast forward to today....now just about everybody LOVES JUAN! Sometimes it just takes a little getting to know someone to understand and appreciate them and their individual style. I don't see why this wouldn't apply to the jury's sentiment toward JM as well. After all, they are people just like all of us...and we all know how we collectively (and individually) feel about this. Do you agree?

As a RC jury....I do believe every one of us would vote to convict today, M1. Death penalty...not sure how that vote would go? I personally would have no qualms voting for the DP for Jodi. Cases like this are what the DP exists for, IMO.

OK, got my two cents in on this fine Monday morning. Hope you all had a great weekend! Feel free to add your two cents if you agree or disagree. Razz

Yes, I feel that way and am glad you agree!

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Post by Mylife101 Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:18 am

18thcenturylady wrote:Ok everyone, here is another juicy long piece from Chris Stark this past Saturday. She goes into the Hughes' emails and much more. It also explains WHY Sky H. was 'pissed' with Travis---(has to do with her friend who dated T. for 7 years, Deanna. REALLY puts it all in perspective, and I wish the jury had this info. I found this very interesting, and it puts the so-called "nasty" emails from the Hughes' to Travis in CONTEXT (!) (Yeah, Alyce and DT---CONTEXT!)

FROM CHRIS STARK'S TWITLONGER SITE, 4/13/13: (Her words, from her site in red)

"#JodiArias The Chris Hughes Emails / Pedophile Letters Explained:

Nurmi called Sky and told Sky that Travis was a pedophile, and that the letters were authenticated. All proven lies of Nurmi's

Nurmo tolds Sky that Travis had a sexual thing for Chris/Sky Hughes son.
The son who wears Spider Man underwear. Sky/Chris think what Nurmi did - the "big lie" as Motivation to try and get Chris/Sky to state negative things about Travis.

The emails have nothing to do with the above paragraph. The EMAILS are about Travis BFF telling Travis he has commitment issues because of his childhood abuse and that Travis did not deal with the emotional and physical abuse. Hence, Travis is a BIG FLIRT and Serial Dater.

Travis dated Deanna on and off for 7 years. NO SEX.

**In MY Words** - Travis used the BEST years of Deanna's life and left her now - too old to get married....this is WHY Sky was pissed at Travis.

Plus Travis kept seeing Deanna = giving her mixed signals in a way leading her on, in MY words, i think Deanna put up with it as desperate hope that Travis would change his mind - IMO. Travis told her to date other men. Deanna was well aware as was all of their friends that Travis was dating everything with 2 legs--imo

A LDS / Mormon female finding a mate over the age of 30 - harsh reality

Sky wanted Travis to settle down and marry.

Sky at first thought Jodi would be great to marry Travis. Travis spent Oct 2006 to Feb 2007 NOT DATING JODI. But Travis and Jodi were GROUP going on Outings, camping, traveling.

Sky was pissed Travis was repeating his pattern. Jodi made it clear she wanted to get married and was 25 yr old. Travis refused to make it official. HENCE THE FEB 2007 EMAILS

Victim Jodi also cried to Sky about lies...THAT IS WHEN--AFTER THE EMAILS - Sky said Jodi was no longer welcomed in their home. WHY - after the emails - Sky and Travis figured out Jodi was lying.

MOST IMPORTANT TO KNOW in the LDS (MORMON) culture, you are to date, to marry. While dating, the second you figure out, this is not the female/male I wanted to marry, you are to break it off.

Dating someone - example, you both are 25+, dating someone for more than 2 years and not getting married, is frowned upon. Either marry or move on.. don't waste the girls baby making years - in my opinion.

The church name and religion is called

The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints (church of jesus from the people before of)
L . D . S .

The church dislikes the nickname MORMON

just like we cant call people a homo, we have to say homosexual, we need to learn to say LDS Church or LDS and not Mormon.

While i have you here... You can attend church every Sunday and be loved and embraced while being openly gay, a dunkard, a slut, sexually active, even if you killed all the kitties, you can attend church. Just like the Catholic Church, you may not participate in Sacrament until you speak with a Priest, in the LDS Church you speak with the Bishop. Same job, same role, just 2 different names.


Everything Alyce said about the LDS Religion is false"



http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjoe52

Great read! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Weeziethm Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:19 am

Time Out For Alyce. This 5 minute you tube video demonstrates the lengths to which Juan had to go to just to get a response to his question. She did not do either herself or JA any favors by being evasive, obstinate, and unyielding. IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asj-6JTsVes

And good morning to all you fine folks - here's hoping for the beginning of rebuttal week!
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Post by Weeziethm Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:43 am

Bringing this over from WS. Did not include link because there is no opinion or discussion involved. Good Info.

Trial schedule for this week:

4/15/2013 11:00 Trial
4/16/2013 9:30 Trial
4/17/2013 9:30 Trial
4/18/2013 9:30 Trial

4/22/2013 No trial - juror request for day off
4/23/2013 9:30 Trial
4/24/2013 9:30 Trial
4/25/2013 9:30 Trial
4/26/2013 TBC

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Post by 18thcenturylady Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:46 am

Mylife101 wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:Ok everyone, here is another juicy long piece from Chris Stark this past Saturday. She goes into the Hughes' emails and much more. It also explains WHY Sky H. was 'pissed' with Travis---(has to do with her friend who dated T. for 7 years, Deanna.) REALLY puts it all in perspective, and I wish the jury had this info. I found this very interesting, and it puts the so-called "nasty" emails from the Hughes' to Travis in CONTEXT (!) (Yeah, Alyce and DT---CONTEXT!)

FROM CHRIS STARK'S TWITLONGER SITE, 4/13/13: (Her words, from her site in red)

"#JodiArias The Chris Hughes Emails / Pedophile Letters Explained:

Nurmi called Sky and told Sky that Travis was a pedophile, and that the letters were authenticated. All proven lies of Nurmi's

Nurmo tolds Sky that Travis had a sexual thing for Chris/Sky Hughes son.
The son who wears Spider Man underwear. Sky/Chris think what Nurmi did - the "big lie" as Motivation to try and get Chris/Sky to state negative things about Travis.

The emails have nothing to do with the above paragraph. The EMAILS are about Travis BFF telling Travis he has commitment issues because of his childhood abuse and that Travis did not deal with the emotional and physical abuse. Hence, Travis is a BIG FLIRT and Serial Dater.

Travis dated Deanna on and off for 7 years. NO SEX.

**In MY Words** - Travis used the BEST years of Deanna's life and left her now - too old to get married....this is WHY Sky was pissed at Travis.

Plus Travis kept seeing Deanna = giving her mixed signals in a way leading her on, in MY words, i think Deanna put up with it as desperate hope that Travis would change his mind - IMO. Travis told her to date other men. Deanna was well aware as was all of their friends that Travis was dating everything with 2 legs--imo

A LDS / Mormon female finding a mate over the age of 30 - harsh reality

Sky wanted Travis to settle down and marry.

Sky at first thought Jodi would be great to marry Travis. Travis spent Oct 2006 to Feb 2007 NOT DATING JODI. But Travis and Jodi were GROUP going on Outings, camping, traveling.

Sky was pissed Travis was repeating his pattern. Jodi made it clear she wanted to get married and was 25 yr old. Travis refused to make it official. HENCE THE FEB 2007 EMAILS

Victim Jodi also cried to Sky about lies...THAT IS WHEN--AFTER THE EMAILS - Sky said Jodi was no longer welcomed in their home. WHY - after the emails - Sky and Travis figured out Jodi was lying.

MOST IMPORTANT TO KNOW in the LDS (MORMON) culture, you are to date, to marry. While dating, the second you figure out, this is not the female/male I wanted to marry, you are to break it off.

Dating someone - example, you both are 25+, dating someone for more than 2 years and not getting married, is frowned upon. Either marry or move on.. don't waste the girls baby making years - in my opinion.

The church name and religion is called

The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints (church of jesus from the people before of)
L . D . S .

The church dislikes the nickname MORMON

just like we cant call people a homo, we have to say homosexual, we need to learn to say LDS Church or LDS and not Mormon.

While i have you here... You can attend church every Sunday and be loved and embraced while being openly gay, a dunkard, a slut, sexually active, even if you killed all the kitties, you can attend church. Just like the Catholic Church, you may not participate in Sacrament until you speak with a Priest, in the LDS Church you speak with the Bishop. Same job, same role, just 2 different names.


Everything Alyce said about the LDS Religion is false"



http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjoe52

Great read! Thanks for sharing.

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Post by carlakay Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:47 am

18thcenturylady wrote:Just a few thought, MOO~
I think rumors are rampant in this case. First, about the supposed "3 way" Jodi wanted to have with her friend Chytanya---Not buying that at all. Jodi couldn't even stand for Travis to speak to another woman. No control in a 3 way---the guy might like the other woman better. Jodi wanted to be Mrs. Alexander, and was focused on that. No way do I believe a 3 way was EVER going to happen. IMO, this is a stupid rumor.

In looking at the photo of Jodi with Mario, Bobby, etc.---IF that is in fact Bobby Juarez, he looks nothing like that photo of actor Bobby that was found and posted here. Of course, the 'actor Bobby' could be him, but again, I would have to see more about him to be convinced.
I also saw the tape on Youtube with the girl who says she was his gf and he abused her. This tape IMO is really creepy and VERY unreliable. IF in fact she was abused, she should have gone to police. Even if she was, and even if it was by the correct Bobby, it has nothing to do with this case. The video seemed self serving and suspect to me.

I thought that the defense was done with their case. I had heard that Ms. Wong, or Wu, or whoever it is is supposed to testify today in a hearing regarding prosecutorial misconduct, and not as a part of the defense case per se. I could be wrong, but that is what I read somewhere.

I am sure Jodi did have a storage unit, and if she mentioned that to Det. Flores, you can bet your life that a search warrant was issued with lightening speed---After all for all they knew Brainiac could have stashed the gun or other incriminating evidence there. While we may not know the outcome of said search, you can be assured it was done, and Matt most certainly was NOT the one to go hopping over there to retrieve Jodi's things.

So many things are not substantiated. I for one am done now watching anymore until Juan's rebuttal case. I think that is the only thing that is going to matter now. Alyce is done for. I really do not see the defense getting a mistrial. I for one am going to focus only on the facts I know Juan will bring out in rebuttal. Hopefully that will be the nail in the coffin for Jodi and her team.

the 3 way issue was brought out in court when Jodi was on the stand...I do not recall if it was during direct or cross or what day of the trial it was but she just casually threw it in there that it was Travis idea. So I am positive that while it is most likely another lie..can't really call this one a rumour.

I didn't bother looking at the latest Bobby pic since he aint really relevent..I did watch that nutball girl's vid on youtube when it was first posted and agree with everything you said about it..

Also haven't read much bout this storage locker yet cept what has been posted on here but again have to agree with your line of thinking bout it.

Now for the massive amount of unsubstantiated info..I blame the media..they never take a second to verify anything anymore..someone says one thing and they all go to reporting it as fact.drives me nuts and it is why I quit watching the news..there just aint no such thing as real news and reporters anymore.Of course your gonna have rumours as well with all the social media sites but I dont believe much of anything til I see an official document these days..lol

Also you are right about Wong or Wu..it is my understanding she is the producer for the HLN show that JC spoke on regarding the pic of Juan wt some fan that got the defense team all in a snit.

I have absolutely no clue if the defense is done yet or not but gotta say if they are..well then that was just pathetic.
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Post by 18thcenturylady Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:52 am

carlakay wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:Just a few thought, MOO~
I think rumors are rampant in this case. First, about the supposed "3 way" Jodi wanted to have with her friend Chytanya---Not buying that at all. Jodi couldn't even stand for Travis to speak to another woman. No control in a 3 way---the guy might like the other woman better. Jodi wanted to be Mrs. Alexander, and was focused on that. No way do I believe a 3 way was EVER going to happen. IMO, this is a stupid rumor.

In looking at the photo of Jodi with Mario, Bobby, etc.---IF that is in fact Bobby Juarez, he looks nothing like that photo of actor Bobby that was found and posted here. Of course, the 'actor Bobby' could be him, but again, I would have to see more about him to be convinced.
I also saw the tape on Youtube with the girl who says she was his gf and he abused her. This tape IMO is really creepy and VERY unreliable. IF in fact she was abused, she should have gone to police. Even if she was, and even if it was by the correct Bobby, it has nothing to do with this case. The video seemed self serving and suspect to me.

I thought that the defense was done with their case. I had heard that Ms. Wong, or Wu, or whoever it is is supposed to testify today in a hearing regarding prosecutorial misconduct, and not as a part of the defense case per se. I could be wrong, but that is what I read somewhere.

I am sure Jodi did have a storage unit, and if she mentioned that to Det. Flores, you can bet your life that a search warrant was issued with lightening speed---After all for all they knew Brainiac could have stashed the gun or other incriminating evidence there. While we may not know the outcome of said search, you can be assured it was done, and Matt most certainly was NOT the one to go hopping over there to retrieve Jodi's things.

So many things are not substantiated. I for one am done now watching anymore until Juan's rebuttal case. I think that is the only thing that is going to matter now. Alyce is done for. I really do not see the defense getting a mistrial. I for one am going to focus only on the facts I know Juan will bring out in rebuttal. Hopefully that will be the nail in the coffin for Jodi and her team.

the 3 way issue was brought out in court when Jodi was on the stand...I do not recall if it was during direct or cross or what day of the trial it was but she just casually threw it in there that it was Travis idea. So I am positive that while it is most likely another lie..can't really call this one a rumour.

I didn't bother looking at the latest Bobby pic since he aint really relevent..I did watch that nutball girl's vid on youtube when it was first posted and agree with everything you said about it..

Also haven't read much bout this storage locker yet cept what has been posted on here but again have to agree with your line of thinking bout it.

Now for the massive amount of unsubstantiated info..I blame the media..they never take a second to verify anything anymore..someone says one thing and they all go to reporting it as fact.drives me nuts and it is why I quit watching the news..there just aint no such thing as real news and reporters anymore.Of course your gonna have rumours as well with all the social media sites but I dont believe much of anything til I see an official document these days..lol

Also you are right about Wong or Wu..it is my understanding she is the producer for the HLN show that JC spoke on regarding the pic of Juan wt some fan that got the defense team all in a snit.

I have absolutely no clue if the defense is done yet or not but gotta say if they are..well then that was just pathetic.

Hi Carla, thanks for clarifying the '3 way'---that Jodi mentioned it on the stand AND TRIED TO SAY IT WAS TRAVIS' IDEA. I didn't hear anything about it, so obviously missed that bit, but I KNEW NO WAY would Jodi have EVER done a 3 way and shared Travis, period. I am sure that NO MENTION WAS EVER MADE OF HAVING A 3 WAY WHEN TRAVIS WAS ALIVE, AND THIS IS JUST ONE MORE THING JODI THREW INTO THE MIX IN COURT TO MAKE TRAVIS LOOK LIKE A CREEP AND A DEVIANT!

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