Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #14
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Re: Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #14
Is JW going to ask her ANY question outside of trying to drill her on her qualifications?
Get on the ball.
JS is again boring the jury, Judge!
Get on the ball.
JS is again boring the jury, Judge!
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I'm surprised she didn't ask her "Do you have memory problems??"
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Bo wrote:carlakay....she(JW) reminds me of a dog trying to bite this witness...but the witness keeps pushing the shock collar button on her...LOL
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I am impressed JW is actually looking like she learned something from JM... her questions are hitting the mark...
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End of court until 9:30 tomorrow.
JA gave several ugly eyes to the witness.
When JW returned to table, JA immediately started chit-chat and all stupid.
JA gave several ugly eyes to the witness.
When JW returned to table, JA immediately started chit-chat and all stupid.
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I seen that Freckles....
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They are replaying!
This is a hint of what Juan is reviewing for tomorrow...
Love it!
Review of fight/flight and memory...
This is a hint of what Juan is reviewing for tomorrow...
Love it!
Review of fight/flight and memory...
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Bo wrote:I'm surprised she didn't ask her "Do you have memory problems??"
While that was funny when it happened, it just doesn't feel "right".
The defense really has no case whatsoever. They just don't. They never did.
Objections and whining is all they can do at this point.
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She getting the Green Eyed monster syndrome...the jury might (LOL)definitely!!! like the witness more than her...
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She is picking up on her court protocol but she will never get to be Juan.justanopinion wrote:I am impressed JW is actually looking like she learned something from JM... her questions are hitting the mark...
She should focus on her case law.
JA is going down.
She should be preparing for the punishment phase, imo.
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Disassociation is developed over time from trauma.
It is a coping mechanisms.
Rarely seen because it is severe trauma.
Dissociative amnesia develops over time.
Did not see this in JA.
This does not come and go in four hours.
Killing: Being involved in a killing could cause memory loss.JA however, did not have the pattern of what is typically seen. Overall time, a person would remember more, not recall less.
It is a coping mechanisms.
Rarely seen because it is severe trauma.
Dissociative amnesia develops over time.
Did not see this in JA.
This does not come and go in four hours.
Killing: Being involved in a killing could cause memory loss.JA however, did not have the pattern of what is typically seen. Overall time, a person would remember more, not recall less.
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I think it's funny how Dr. D keeps trying to hold in the laugh while explaining to JW for the millionth time what order the practice, masters, doctrine, etc. goes in... lol
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if nothing else she explained about DB's exwife, and other mimicking behavior from ex-boyfriends... Behavior that we weren't told about before.
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Bmore...i must have missed that about DB's ex-wife...
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....
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Bo wrote:Bmore...i must have missed that about DB's ex-wife...
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....
I thought we DID hear something like this before.
Didn't DB say something like Jodi was always trying to fit in with others - changing her looks, behavior, etc.
something like that
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maybe he did, I listened to part of his testimony, he came across as a dick to me...
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I listened to the last 20 minutes or so on my phone. It seems to me, that this witness will give you a straight answer. JW is trying to make is seem as though she was being difficult, but she wasn't. I was really glad to hear her stop at the bachelor's though. I thought we might have gone back to her HS days. This just serves to drive home the point that this lady has a lot of education.
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tesstruhart wrote:I listened to the last 20 minutes or so on my phone. It seems to me, that this witness will give you a straight answer. JW is trying to make is seem as though she was being difficult, but she wasn't. I was really glad to hear her stop at the bachelor's though. I thought we might have gone back to her HS days. This just serves to drive home the point that this lady has a lot of education.
Just curious... where/how are you listening through your phone? I always leave work before the session ends and would love to do this on the way home!
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That was rather interesting, wasn't it?Bmore wrote:if nothing else she explained about DB's exwife, and other mimicking behavior from ex-boyfriends... Behavior that we weren't told about before.
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Witness said JA told her she tried to do her hair like DB's ex-wife.Bo wrote:Bmore...i must have missed that about DB's ex-wife...
Ohhhh..nevermind...you mean she aped DB's ex-wife....JA tried to be like her...ok got it....
(Or did witness read it in the journal?? )
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gsweater wrote:tesstruhart wrote:I listened to the last 20 minutes or so on my phone. It seems to me, that this witness will give you a straight answer. JW is trying to make is seem as though she was being difficult, but she wasn't. I was really glad to hear her stop at the bachelor's though. I thought we might have gone back to her HS days. This just serves to drive home the point that this lady has a lot of education.
Just curious... where/how are you listening through your phone? I always leave work before the session ends and would love to do this on the way home!
I have Iphone 5. I down loaded az 3tv news and on there is a live video link that I push and voila...I have video and audio. Obviously, while driving I cannot watch the video so I just listen. Its a free app so just download it and if the trial is on, you can connect
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tesstruhart wrote:gsweater wrote:
Just curious... where/how are you listening through your phone? I always leave work before the session ends and would love to do this on the way home!
I have Iphone 5. I down loaded az 3tv news and on there is a live video link that I push and voila...I have video and audio. Obviously, while driving I cannot watch the video so I just listen. Its a free app so just download it and if the trial is on, you can connect
Thanks for the info, but BAH!!! I have Galaxy S3. If only Google didn't decide to not support Flash in Jellybean OS. I'll figure another way out I'm sure. By then, the trial will be over at the rate the rebuttal is going :P
Edit: Didn't realize you were talking of app. Appears it will work on Android!
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I missed most of today. Did we ever find out what ALV had to return to court for?
I am liking this witness, she is a professional! JA must be real unhappy with her.
I am liking this witness, she is a professional! JA must be real unhappy with her.
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Not sure what it was about, but, it appears that it will be sealed until after trial is over. This witness is awesome. JW is getting swatted around like a mosquito.yellow bike wrote:I missed most of today. Did we ever find out what ALV had to return to court for?
I am liking this witness, she is a professional! JA must be real unhappy with her.
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April 16, 2013
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 1 (Rebuttal Starts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETPGRNVyhM
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af4izJggg2Y
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaUBxyzt7jQ
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8V0W8eBL4
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 1 (Rebuttal Starts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETPGRNVyhM
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af4izJggg2Y
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaUBxyzt7jQ
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 48 - Part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8V0W8eBL4
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Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
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Hilarious recap of the last 2 days.
“The Prosecutor” Takes Control of Runaway Train"
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/
Enjoy!
“The Prosecutor” Takes Control of Runaway Train"
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/
Enjoy!
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Found something interesting:Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/05/bordering-on-sociopathy_18.html
"...when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.”
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Send her a PM to confirm, Weezie. IIRC, from other testimony, a person may have a mixture of other personality disorders. Not sure how that works. Maybe it is like Sociopaths and borderline personalities are in column one and historian narcissists are from column two? Or maybe they are ALL in column one! I know I heard there can be a mix, however. Anxious to hear what Just can tell us.Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
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I know this has got to be good!Mylife101 wrote:Hilarious recap of the last 2 days.
“The Prosecutor” Takes Control of Runaway Train"
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/
Enjoy!
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Big welcome to Nemo!
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Thanks !Freckles wrote:Big welcome to Nemo!
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nemo1970 wrote:Found something interesting:Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/05/bordering-on-sociopathy_18.html
"...when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.”
Good information. Thanks, nemo....and WELCOME!
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nemo1970 wrote:Found something interesting:Weeziethm wrote:Just-y or anyone....I have a question. Can someone diagnosed with BPD as Dr D has said for JA, can they also have narcissism and sociopathy "in addition" to BPD. My thought is if the answer to that is "yes", this is what JM is going to tie in and line up with Travis' 5/26 email labeling JA as such.
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/05/bordering-on-sociopathy_18.html
"...when the borderline personality’s rage or desperation is evoked, one sees (and not rarely) responses that can closely correspond to the sociopath’s calculating, destructive mentality.”
Thanks, Nemo, for this information. I need to review it again about 3 more times it contained so much information!
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Bwahahahaha!!!! Eggtree cracks me the f**k up!
"Half of Monday was flushed down the toilet so Heavy D Nurmi could induce a wave of eyerolls around the world with his latest nonsensical mistrial motions. Sporting a nifty metallic blue shirt (that should have come with a space helmet, or at least a fish bowl over his head), the overgrown crybaby blamed all his woes on Juan “The Prosecutor” Martinez. According to the whiny space cadet, Martinez was a big meanie to Boss Hogg impersonator Richard Samuels. He also pissed and moaned (again) about Juan’s squeeing groupies outside the courthouse. Basically, every problem under the sun is barky Martinez’s fault, and the defense deserves a do-over. DENIED and DENIED said the judge four hours later. But Heavy D and Jenny squeezed another $1200 out of Arizona taxpayers in the process, so I guess it was all worth it. "
Read it all here (drain your bladder first):
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/
"Half of Monday was flushed down the toilet so Heavy D Nurmi could induce a wave of eyerolls around the world with his latest nonsensical mistrial motions. Sporting a nifty metallic blue shirt (that should have come with a space helmet, or at least a fish bowl over his head), the overgrown crybaby blamed all his woes on Juan “The Prosecutor” Martinez. According to the whiny space cadet, Martinez was a big meanie to Boss Hogg impersonator Richard Samuels. He also pissed and moaned (again) about Juan’s squeeing groupies outside the courthouse. Basically, every problem under the sun is barky Martinez’s fault, and the defense deserves a do-over. DENIED and DENIED said the judge four hours later. But Heavy D and Jenny squeezed another $1200 out of Arizona taxpayers in the process, so I guess it was all worth it. "
Read it all here (drain your bladder first):
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-prosecutor-takes-control-of-runaway-train/
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Sorry for multi posts, but...
"A mysterious bald spot has appeared on the crown of Jenny Wilmott’s head. Did she and her psycho My Twin doll Jodi get into a hairpulling fight over the weekend? I’m guessing it was over irreconcilable costume differences, because they don’t match today. Either that, or Jodi threw a legendary temper tantrum over losing valuable airtime to a terrorist attack yesterday."
"A mysterious bald spot has appeared on the crown of Jenny Wilmott’s head. Did she and her psycho My Twin doll Jodi get into a hairpulling fight over the weekend? I’m guessing it was over irreconcilable costume differences, because they don’t match today. Either that, or Jodi threw a legendary temper tantrum over losing valuable airtime to a terrorist attack yesterday."
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IMO, that was intentionally scripted by JW to try to confuse the jury. And IF the jury is confused, they will ask the questions to clear away any ground fog.Bmore wrote:I think it's funny how Dr. D keeps trying to hold in the laugh while explaining to JW for the millionth time what order the practice, masters, doctrine, etc. goes in... lol
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Thank you, Alessandra, for providing the evening entertainment.
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Wow. Clipped-
" ....After having a sexual affair the person with borderline personality disorder may not have the same amount of guilt as someone with non-BPD. The reason is projection; oftentimes people with borderline personality disorder project their negative behaviors onto others including their partners. This means that someone with borderline personality disorder who is having a reckless sexual affair may have a tendency to build a fake affair that their spouse or loved one is having in their head. They literally make themselves believe that their partner is also cheating and that they are therefore justified in having their reckless sexual affair...."
"Also, knowing that we have the ability to interest and consume someone with our sexuality or ability to seduce them is a form of validation of our own self-worth."
" If I can distract them with my body, they’ll have proven themselves not trustworthy enough to get into my mind, but at the same time, I have someone near. I’ll have validated my own paranoia and satisfied my need to not be alone. How’s that for messed up. When I’m alone I feel empty. Sex is one of those ultimate expressions of being not alone. "
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/07/why-are-borderlines-so-sexual.html
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http://www.realitychatter.com/viewtopic.forum?t=4298
" ....After having a sexual affair the person with borderline personality disorder may not have the same amount of guilt as someone with non-BPD. The reason is projection; oftentimes people with borderline personality disorder project their negative behaviors onto others including their partners. This means that someone with borderline personality disorder who is having a reckless sexual affair may have a tendency to build a fake affair that their spouse or loved one is having in their head. They literally make themselves believe that their partner is also cheating and that they are therefore justified in having their reckless sexual affair...."
"Also, knowing that we have the ability to interest and consume someone with our sexuality or ability to seduce them is a form of validation of our own self-worth."
" If I can distract them with my body, they’ll have proven themselves not trustworthy enough to get into my mind, but at the same time, I have someone near. I’ll have validated my own paranoia and satisfied my need to not be alone. How’s that for messed up. When I’m alone I feel empty. Sex is one of those ultimate expressions of being not alone. "
http://www.downwardspiralintothevortex.com/2011/07/why-are-borderlines-so-sexual.html
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http://www.realitychatter.com/viewtopic.forum?t=4298
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