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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:19 pm


reporterjmiguel Courtroom is PACKED today.

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JA is attempting to appear upset, deep breathing.
Appears fake.
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:20 pm



michaelbkiefer Could Alexander "ambulate" after the shot? Not likely. 53 seconds ago ·

michaelbkiefer Jury questions: Would there be blood on the bathroom floor? Likely.
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Post by Pianist Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:21 pm

Freckles wrote:The suit and assemble Wilmot is wearing is making me barf It looks like a mud puddle with blue water settling in it! She has no taste at all!

Freckles, I think I have been wrong about JW... I thought she was picking out Jodi's clothes. Nope now I am sure that our controlling bratty jealous Jodi is picking JW's clothes. She does not want JW to look good. No way. She has to be the woman everyone looks like. bounce
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:21 pm


michaelbkiefer How frequently have you seen .25 caliber injuries? More than 100 times. 51 seconds ago ·

reporterjmiguel The ME says Travis was still alive when his throat was cut because of blood loss, it would have required a "beating heart" 56 seconds ago

elizabetherwin Good questions from the jurors, asking why no blood in bathroom if TA shot there.
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:22 pm



reporterjmiguel Wilmont is smiling as she reproaches 44 seconds ago ·

reporterjmiguel Juan Martinez is stressing if what #JodiArias says is true and Travis was shot first could he move and run, ME says "no"
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Post by carlakay Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:23 pm

in other words had he been shot first and fell with her onto the ground he could NOT of been still trying to hurt her..so no need for the stabfest! shabooya
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Post by Bmore Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:23 pm

ooooh liked that.... the trajectory could have been changed from hitting the skull bone... so we don't know where the shot came from...
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:23 pm

This is why I am fearful. Jury questions still seem like some may think gunshot was first! Oh my freaking God---How could anyone not see the truth here!

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Post by Bmore Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:23 pm

she's crying.... i'm soooo dead
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:23 pm


elizabetherwin The state rests! 44 seconds ago

elizabetherwin Jurors asked to leave the room. #JodiArias 48 seconds ago ·

michaelbkiefer Willmott notes the amount of blood on the carpet at the door to the bedroom. Was the throat cut there?
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Post by keikikiki Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:24 pm

Mylife101 wrote:@ freckles

I agree that I don't NEED to know all the answers. JM has more than proven his case. I suppose it's just "morbid curiosity" as to the inner workings and doings of demon arias.

Agree! About the poll, I can't even pick one- 'cause every single one of your posts includes all my ???s...too many to pick just one, and I wanna know all of it! Great line Mylife: I should've just said what you just did.
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Post by Bo Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:24 pm

what are you "crying" for Jodi...according to you ...you'll be acquitted and move to Europe with your lesbian lover with baby in tow....LOL

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Post by carlakay Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Mylife101 wrote:OK...OK...OK....I am willing to conceed the gunshot came last!


Cool your theory was still awesome logic tho
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Now what? Why is jury gone? What is going on? I see counsel in chambers...again. Missed the very end of Dr. Horn re-cross, and all of the sudden no more court?

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Post by keikikiki Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:26 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
Bmore wrote:it's nice for Gma to see all this...

G'ma knew what was coming. She could have left the courtroom. I don't feel sorry for anyone except the Alexander family. The rest of these people need to see what Jodi did to this man. Time for a reality check and the focus to be back where it belongs after a protracted defense fairy tale!

Yes!
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:27 pm


BethKaras The State rests. The State called 20 witnesses in its case-in-chief in January and 9 in rebuttal in April (though... fb.me/19bfBefiJ 43 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
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elizabetherwin Prosecution and Alexander's family plus Nurmi head into chambers. 59 seconds ago

reporterjmiguel The Alexander family is being brought into chambers


michaelbkiefer Willmott asks if one could hold his head up after a cut throat? No. She is referring to the photo of Alexander on the floor. about 1 minute ago

reporterjmiguel #Arias jury is being excused

---JA is looking better now the jury is out of the room!
Amazing what a little change in "company" can do, isn't it?
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Post by tesstruhart Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:28 pm

I think JA was crying for a couple of reasons...she is beginning to see the writing on the wall....grandma is there and she is trying to appear human....atty's told her too. She has never even become emotional when she talks about the bludgeoning. The tears aren't even a waterworks, just a couple and the old CA trick of squeezing your nose with the tissue.
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Post by carlakay Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:30 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:Now what? Why is jury gone? What is going on? I see counsel in chambers...again. Missed the very end of Dr. Horn re-cross, and all of the sudden no more court?

Juan is done..I guess they are in chambers so the judge can school the defense team on how to conduct a surebuttal now?
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:31 pm

Freckles wrote:
BethKaras The State rests. The State called 20 witnesses in its case-in-chief in January and 9 in rebuttal in April (though... fb.me/19bfBefiJ 43 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
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elizabetherwin Prosecution and Alexander's family plus Nurmi head into chambers. 59 seconds ago

reporterjmiguel The Alexander family is being brought into chambers


michaelbkiefer Willmott asks if one could hold his head up after a cut throat? No. She is referring to the photo of Alexander on the floor. about 1 minute ago

reporterjmiguel #Arias jury is being excused

---JA is looking better now the jury is out of the room!



Amazing what a little change in "company" can do, isn't it?


So court is over for today?---Until next Wednesday? Well, slightly disappointed with rebuttal. Thought it would have been good to have Travis' friend who was supposed to say he never had a gun, for one thing.

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Post by justanopinion Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:31 pm

omg missed it all... are we done for the day now... or still some JA BS to wade through... my poor shovel is starting to break!! Laughing
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Post by Bmore Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:31 pm

one of the jury questions was something like is there any other circumstance that would have allowed TA to do anything after the shot? Dr. H said not have the bullet go thru his brain.... i think that's pretty to the point
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:31 pm

BOMB SCARE IN COURT:



michaelbkiefer The handler, a woman, says the bomb dog is a Czech shepherd. 39 seconds ago ·

michaelbkiefer The dog handler just said it is a bomb dog. about 1 minute ago ·

michaelbkiefer The dog and handler just left. I guess it didn't smell anything in the jury room. 2 minutes ago ·

BethKaras A police dog was just brought into court with an officer. They were escorted through the same door the jury uses.... fb.me/27cuuVtLn 2 minutes ago

elizabetherwin You can really see the stun belt through #JodiArias's shirt today. 2 minutes ago

reporterjmiguel Dog and MCSO employees have walked back out and given the "thumbs up" to the court employees.
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:34 pm

tesstruhart wrote:I think JA was crying for a couple of reasons...she is beginning to see the writing on the wall....grandma is there and she is trying to appear human....atty's told her too. She has never even become emotional when she talks about the bludgeoning. The tears aren't even a waterworks, just a couple and the old CA trick of squeezing your nose with the tissue.
Yep. ^^^^ Cool
She is done so stick a fork in her.
Grandma is there to probably get her last good-bye for her granddaughter--- someone Grandma probably cared about as she shard hr home with her. Grandma ain't no spring hen so she won't be making a lot of trips to see JA.
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Post by carlakay Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:35 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
Freckles wrote:
BethKaras The State rests. The State called 20 witnesses in its case-in-chief in January and 9 in rebuttal in April (though... fb.me/19bfBefiJ 43 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
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elizabetherwin Prosecution and Alexander's family plus Nurmi head into chambers. 59 seconds ago

reporterjmiguel The Alexander family is being brought into chambers


michaelbkiefer Willmott asks if one could hold his head up after a cut throat? No. She is referring to the photo of Alexander on the floor. about 1 minute ago

reporterjmiguel #Arias jury is being excused

---JA is looking better now the jury is out of the room!



Amazing what a little change in "company" can do, isn't it?


So court is over for today?---Until next Wednesday? Well, slightly disappointed with rebuttal. Thought it would have been good to have Travis' friend who was supposed to say he never had a gun, for one thing.

court has not been dismissed for the day YET..could very well occur after jury is left waiting n hour or so tho

I too am slightly dissapointed with rebuttal BUT IMO Juan was prob told to keep it as short and quick as possible..as for his friend..again I think the state had enough physical evidence to prove their case without having to exspose too many of Travis loved ones to the offensive and irrelevant questions of the defense.
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Post by keikikiki Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:35 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:How's Horn standing up to Wilmot. Saw Nurmi smirk. Jodi might as well have a sign around her neck saying "boo hoo, I don't have a life anymore! I'll never get married and buy new clothes and flirt with everything in pants anymore..." Cries only for herself.

I'm not even sure these irritating fake cries are even for herself...at this point I'm convinced all her actions are soley for manipulation, not even for herself. Wow my squishy heart must've really become hardened through this 'cause I don't even believe she has self-pity at these moments...all I see now (in JA) is her own amusement at thinking how she's gonna play her next hand and fool all us idiots. Maybe I'm the sick one, but I just see evil JA. I want her to be proven wrong soooo badly.
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Post by Moosiesmama Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:37 pm

Grandma just looks like a tough old bird, doesn't seem like much could phase her.

What really chaps my hide is that this last minute witness is causing the court to wait 5 days for the testimony of a man who has been sanctioned in other cases for not quite telling the truth. Nobody is that busy. Just another desparate attempt by the dteam. Makes absolutely no sense to me to add further delays for the already fatigued jury.
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:38 pm

IMO, JA is moving on to her next game.
She likes her little Einstein-ian brain and using it to outsmart, cheat, hood-wink... like writing in the magazines in code!

Dr. D said it well: JA is immature. Very.
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Post by carlakay Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:39 pm

keikikiki wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:How's Horn standing up to Wilmot. Saw Nurmi smirk. Jodi might as well have a sign around her neck saying "boo hoo, I don't have a life anymore! I'll never get married and buy new clothes and flirt with everything in pants anymore..." Cries only for herself.

I'm not even sure these irritating fake cries are even for herself...at this point I'm convinced all her actions are soley for manipulation, not even for herself. Wow my squishy heart must've really become hardened through this 'cause I don't even believe she has self-pity at these moments...all I see now (in JA) is her own amusement at thinking how she's gonna play her next hand and fool all us idiots. Maybe I'm the sick one, but I just see evil JA. I want her to be proven wrong soooo badly.


right there with ya..she was not crying today..she was acting...I too saw the sick friggin glance she made to the screen to see her handiwork once again. She aint scared..she aint worried..she is confident she pulled off another one

as for the bomb scare..anyone see pat..oops I mean Donovan in the courtroom today?
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:40 pm

Moosiesmama wrote:Grandma just looks like a tough old bird, doesn't seem like much could phase her.

What really chaps my hide is that this last minute witness is causing the court to wait 5 days for the testimony of a man who has been sanctioned in other cases for not quite telling the truth. Nobody is that busy. Just another desparate attempt by the dteam. Makes absolutely no sense to me to add further delays for the already fatigued jury.
The dteam is trying to put distance between Martinez' last witness and theirs in hopes today's testimony will be forgotten. JMO.
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:40 pm

keikikiki wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:How's Horn standing up to Wilmot. Saw Nurmi smirk. Jodi might as well have a sign around her neck saying "boo hoo, I don't have a life anymore! I'll never get married and buy new clothes and flirt with everything in pants anymore..." Cries only for herself.

I'm not even sure these irritating fake cries are even for herself...at this point I'm convinced all her actions are soley for manipulation, not even for herself. Wow my squishy heart must've really become hardened through this 'cause I don't even believe she has self-pity at these moments...all I see now (in JA) is her own amusement at thinking how she's gonna play her next hand and fool all us idiots. Maybe I'm the sick one, but I just see evil JA. I want her to be proven wrong soooo badly.

Me too, Kik. I agree with you, and I so want to see this lady get the worst of the worst.

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Post by justanopinion Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:41 pm

Willmot smiling like a cheshire cat for some reason
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Post by Bo Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:41 pm

How Many "shrinks" has the defense team tried to derive DV out of???? "3"....to the prosecution "1"....

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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:42 pm

Well, Kik, I am on too much overload from the DT, and have lots of spring cleaning and yard stuff to do. I can't stomach the 'surrebuttal' BS, so I am taking a break from the whole trial until next Friday. I ONLY want to hear Juan's closing. I'll then look for updates so that I can see the verdict.

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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:42 pm

BethKaras Attorneys are out of chambers. Samantha and Steven Alexander were back there too. The rest of the family went to... fb.me/21yzt9uy3 47 seconds ago

michaelbkiefer The attorneys have returned to the courtroom. about 1 minute ago

reporterjmiguel Alexander family has left the court chambers about 1 minute ago

elizabetherwin Everyone leaving chambers. about 1 minute ago

BethKaras The Alexanders just went into the witness room behind the courtroom. Most of them were crying, or appeared to be. #JodiArias 4 minutes ago ·

reporterjmiguel Alexander's sister just left courtroom upset, not sure why
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Post by Bmore Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:42 pm

juror 8 gone
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:43 pm

Back in court.
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Post by Bmore Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:43 pm

done till next week...
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Post by tesstruhart Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:43 pm

Juror #8 gone....don't know why
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:44 pm


BethKaras Juror #8 has been excused. The jury is now 9 men and 6 women. #JodiArias 43 seconds ago

reporterjmiguel Juror number 8 has been excused from the case..no idea why. Jury is being dismissed until next Wednesday.
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:45 pm

OMG...Another juror is gone! NOW what?! JW was smiling, so she must be pleased with that news...Wonder why. Sure wish we knew what happened.

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Post by Bo Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:45 pm

Is it "normal" to dismiss a juror (i assume alternate) and only have 3 alternates till end of trial....

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Post by tesstruhart Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:45 pm

#8 was a male that took a lot of notes according to Chris williams
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Post by tesstruhart Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 pm

There are no 'alternates' just yet. The deliberating jury will be determined by lottery at the end of trial.
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Post by Bo Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Probably a juror that submitted a Q in the basket.....unless they drew a # out of a hat in the judge chambers and that's the # drawn....

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Post by Bmore Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 pm

they start with 18 jurors then basically pull the J# from a hat to see who will go back to deliberations... None of them actually have a status right now...
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Post by carlakay Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:47 pm

it's possible juror 8 tossed their cookies...just speculating here..no tweet verification..lol
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Post by justanopinion Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:48 pm

I thought it was juror 7 the other day that JA was going after... now it is juror 8... wonder if she still has it in for J7??

lol maybe she is getting rid of the ones that are actually on her side... hopefully! I could ask questions in a way to lead to answers to prove my point.. but not show that I was for Hodi!!

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Post by Mrskinger Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Is it normal to feel really mad at another juror being let go ? This had got to stop ... I dont know this arias chick in real life but Man I can't stand her ...
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Post by Freckles Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Juror 8:
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"8.The CEO-Good looking man, mid 50's with goatee. Can see him being the jury foreman.
I called this guy "The Dad". He looks nothing like my dad, Lol, but for whatever reason... I got a fatherly feel from him "

http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthread.php?26892-Jodi-Ann-Arias-shot-and-stabbed-her-ex-boyfriend-Travis-Alexander-to-death-%28Part-II%29/page693
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Post by keikikiki Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:50 pm

Freckles wrote:
Moosiesmama wrote:Grandma just looks like a tough old bird, doesn't seem like much could phase her.

What really chaps my hide is that this last minute witness is causing the court to wait 5 days for the testimony of a man who has been sanctioned in other cases for not quite telling the truth. Nobody is that busy. Just another desparate attempt by the dteam. Makes absolutely no sense to me to add further delays for the already fatigued jury.
The dteam is trying to put distance between Martinez' last witness and theirs in hopes today's testimony will be forgotten. JMO.

Agree...just seems like they will pull every single thing OMG! Just dismissed Juror #8 as I write HOLY CRAP see??? These a-holes are going down guns blazing trying every single scummy-lower-than-scum tactic to get a mistrial or lesser charge via confusion. Juror fatigue is exactly what they're goin' for imoo...A-holes. Yeahyeahyeah, drag this mockery out long enough and you just might get every single juror dismissed- why stop at 12? C'mon dteam, this is a game to you, yes?
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! barf

Ok guys...I'm okay...just feel the need for an outlet at times. Reeeee-dunk-u-lous. See? SEE? Just when I think I've topped the limit of my rage-o-rant-o-meter, they go and jerk the chain and set me off again. Whew. Good thing I'm not as jazzed as it probably sounds like when I rant. What a bunch of jerks. AAH!

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