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The only person who would miss Jodi would be her mother. However, I am sure that if she gets the death penalty it would relieve her burden.She will be the one that Jodi will guilt and manipulate . When they execute Jodi she will be free.
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This next phase is where her horrendous unmentionable accusations will really bite her in her unkempt tush!
The Jurors voices were even more strong than last verdict!
They ain't buyin' what she's sellin' AND NEVER DID!
If they can show that document where Hodi basically ATTEMPTS BLACKMAIL of the Alexanders with the plea nonsense....SHE IS TOAST, imo.
Combine that with the POST Verdict interview and her continued taunting of the Family...and the Jury will believe she has NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
and ZERO remorse
I did not think I would say this...but I think they will vote for the DP.( not that she will actually get it but the 23/7 lockdown is what she deserves)
The Jurors voices were even more strong than last verdict!
They ain't buyin' what she's sellin' AND NEVER DID!
If they can show that document where Hodi basically ATTEMPTS BLACKMAIL of the Alexanders with the plea nonsense....SHE IS TOAST, imo.
Combine that with the POST Verdict interview and her continued taunting of the Family...and the Jury will believe she has NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
and ZERO remorse
I did not think I would say this...but I think they will vote for the DP.( not that she will actually get it but the 23/7 lockdown is what she deserves)
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justanopinion wrote:I am praying that Blessings are heaped upon these jurors for having the wisdom to do the right thing. The courage and strength to persevere these many months and still be able to discern the truth and let Justice reign. I am hoping and praying that tomorrow will show just how strong these 12 individuals are. Bless you jurors
Amen! They need strength and wisdom. Our Maker will instill those in each of them I am sure. JMO
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I dunno about that. IMO, her father hasn't been there because he is trying to keep the family going financially and emotionally this may be just too much for him to take. I think he really cares about his daughter. Also, her sister, Angela. IMO, Angela cares deeply for JA and this is going to leave her rattled.Sarainbc wrote:The only person who would miss Jodi would be her mother. However, I am sure that if she gets the death penalty it would relieve her burden.She will be the one that Jodi will guilt and manipulate . When they execute Jodi she will be free.
IMO, JA has earned the dp. And I hope it is administered. She does not deserve to be hob-nobbing with a bunch of other convicts. Buh-by! Donavon!
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Freckles wrote:I dunno about that. IMO, her father hasn't been there because he is trying to keep the family going financially and emotionally this may be just too much for him to take. I think he really cares about his daughter. Also, her sister, Angela. IMO, Angela cares deeply for JA and this is going to leave her rattled.Sarainbc wrote:The only person who would miss Jodi would be her mother. However, I am sure that if she gets the death penalty it would relieve her burden.She will be the one that Jodi will guilt and manipulate . When they execute Jodi she will be free.
IMO, JA has earned the dp. And I hope it is administered. She does not deserve to be hob-nobbing with a bunch of other convicts. Buh-by! Donavon!
Freckles I agree. No matter what, the love within the family is there. Jodi never appreciated them and did not care about how they would be impacted. She only thinks about herself.
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I guess that is what I am trying to say. As much as they may love her, she being Jodi, they will be the ones she manipulates and plays her games with.
I did not know that she was close to her sister. I have wondered why her father has not been there since the first few days.
It will be interesting to hear those who love Jodi speak.
I did not know that she was close to her sister. I have wondered why her father has not been there since the first few days.
It will be interesting to hear those who love Jodi speak.
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I hope she has the sense God gave a turnip, which I doubt, and she doesn't get up on the witness stand and keep up her charade about abuse and pedophilia. I know I'm dreaming and dont think that will really happen, but sometimes dreams do come true.
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carlakay wrote:Mari 68 wrote:Is anyone here gonna follow the Andrea Sneiderman trial???
Another controlling biotch I'd like to watch go down in flames.
Only her case isn't open and shut like this one. It'll be a nail biter for sure.
is that the one that conned her boss into killing her husband in front of a school?
I'm watching that one. Another sociopath imo.
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Can she continue to defame Travis now that she has been convicted and it is clear that the Jury does not believe her? That just seems wrong. It has been decided that it was murder, premeditated and cruel. So Is she allowed to rehash it again?
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Weeziethm wrote:carlakay wrote:
is that the one that conned her boss into killing her husband in front of a school?
I'm watching that one. Another sociopath imo.
Is that trial going to be live or online?
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That pesky thing called "my job" kept me away all day. Thanks for the play by play of the days events. What a glorious decision! I'll be missing tomorrow also as I have to take my clients to a Cardinal baseball game. I love my job. I'll check in tomorrow evening. Have a good evening y'all.
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Sarainbc wrote:Can she continue to defame Travis now that she has been convicted and it is clear that the Jury does not believe her? That just seems wrong. It has been decided that it was murder, premeditated and cruel. So Is she allowed to rehash it again?
I think she will try. She will infer if she isn't allowed to say it directly. She won't say anything that could hurt her appeal. I hope the family throws her under the bus about this.
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Checking in to give a happy dance
My favorite part (in replay) was the strong voices saying YES as the jury was polled. I luv luv luv this jury. They rock. They do not suffer fools gladly!
JAA - you've been proven to be not worthy of any more of our energy. Your strategy backfired big time and because of that - your hubris and evilness - the world knows the light of Travis and the darkness of you.
Well played. Now - exit stage left. Your time is UP.
My favorite part (in replay) was the strong voices saying YES as the jury was polled. I luv luv luv this jury. They rock. They do not suffer fools gladly!
JAA - you've been proven to be not worthy of any more of our energy. Your strategy backfired big time and because of that - your hubris and evilness - the world knows the light of Travis and the darkness of you.
Well played. Now - exit stage left. Your time is UP.
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When is Andea Sneiderman going to trial?
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Sarainbc wrote:When is Andea Sneiderman going to trial?
iirc, July 29
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Sarainbc wrote:The only person who would miss Jodi would be her mother. However, I am sure that if she gets the death penalty it would relieve her burden.She will be the one that Jodi will guilt and manipulate . When they execute Jodi she will be free.
Hi Ms. Sara!
I'm always at a loss when it comes to the convict's family...what effect it might have on 'em etc...especially since I've never had the honor or responsibility of being a parent, I tend to defer to the insights of those who have experience. That said, I totally see what you're saying! I always feel terrible for all the victims, including the perp's own family, and it doesn't feel right or just to judge them from my vantage point...it wasn't THEIR crime, and I don't want cause anyone further suffering. Especially at this point, where I have little to no actual information about her family other than the few moments recorded with Flores upon her arrest...or watching their faces during trial. I'm no mind reader (tho don't we all try our best at times??? )
At the same time, it seems unjust to allow what effect the dp or any sentence would have on them to be weighted as heavily as the victim's family. That could just be my own ignorance regarding the ethics of it all, but since this involves society as a whole and our legal system/rights...just makes sense in my brain, with the limitations of my own experience/knowledge (or lack thereof). Which is primarily hair and medicine (IknowIknow- what a combo).
I do not blame her parents for her actions. The only criticism I've had towards her mom is the whole involvement trying to sell forged pedo letters, which directly enables her brand of evil, slandering the victim in the worst way possible. Even that, I cannot be certain of her involvement, so I'm cautiously judgemental.
So while I think it's a good thing to consider all parties, it just seems like you are right, in that the murderer will continue to jerk around everyone and anyone she can, for as long as she can. This bioytch has turned lying/manipulation/using media into a sick sport. Where there are no opportunities, she'll wiggle around & contort whatever she can to her liking. Which is why I'd vote for dp. Not for the 'freedom' she falsely claims to prefer, but because of the more limited freedoms & punishment she'll be forced to endure while waiting for said freedom. Y'all have helped educate me as far as what her living conditions will be given the different sentencing options, and it sounds like there's a vast difference between the opportunities she'd be privy to with a life sentence and dp- even if the penalty itself is never carried out. I've always gotten stuck on the whole ethical dilemma of dp- the eye-for-an-eye thing/what about the mistakes, sending an innocent to an unjust punishment/etc...but my ojos have been opened, if only a bit. Now I wonder why the debate doesn't include more of these facts about the different conditions between life sentence & dp...maybe I've just missed it. Could be.
I think you're spot on regarding her mom- Momma A will be the one most jerked around as long as this beast can spit. And that is indeed a burden. As always, I must defer to the mommies on our panel to judge whether the reward of baby girl still breathing and able to work said witchcraft upon her is worth the price. I feel lotsa, lotsa empathy for her mom. Whatever she might have done, this is indeed her child, and only she can speak for herself as to what punishment will bring her the most agony. Tough thoughts. But imho, her baby girl has already wreaked the havoc that will burden her family the most...another deep ? for the panel: as a momma bear, is it the dp itself that would cause you the anguish? From the outside (admittedly, I've got nose-bleed seats) it seems like the most agony would be the wouldacouldashoulda where did I go wrong oh HOLY Mother of God my lil' baby actually committed these heinous acts (including the false abuse/pedo accusations for the sake of being free to hump, maybe kill again as she pleases).
You girls tell me.
I'm grateful to the mommas here on RC that have shared some insight as to what loving mommies think they might do in such a situation. Thanks ladies.
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Michael Keifer tweets about today's proceedings.
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Jodi Arias jurors move one step closer to death penalty
The Jodi Arias jury finds an aggravating factor in the killing of Travis Alexander leading the way to a possible death penalty
Chris Williams reports - Video:
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2385004358001
The Jodi Arias jury finds an aggravating factor in the killing of Travis Alexander leading the way to a possible death penalty
Chris Williams reports - Video:
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2385004358001
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Chris Williams - Tweets
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Weeziethm wrote:Checking in to give a happy dance
My favorite part (in replay) was the strong voices saying YES as the jury was polled. I luv luv luv this jury. They rock. They do not suffer fools gladly!
JAA - you've been proven to be not worthy of any more of our energy. Your strategy backfired big time and because of that - your hubris and evilness - the world knows the light of Travis and the darkness of you.
Well played. Now - exit stage left. Your time is UP.
Weezie!
You said it girl!!! I'll second that!!!
Yes! Much love to this jury! They have my gratitude and respect. My God, they've EARNED every drop of it!
Travis Victor Alexander, the Alexander family, JM, Flores, the good doctor, the great state of AZ, and the jury: I've got nuttin' but love, relief, gratitude, and respect. Much love!
p.s. my fav tribute:
--to quote the famous Gibb brothers, "you make me feel like dancin"
p.p.s. of course, as always, thoughts and prayers are with the Alexander family...one last phase
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Arizona jury finds Arias eligible for death penalty in ex-boyfriend's slaying
By Brad Poole
Wed May 15, 2013 6:55pm EDT
(Reuters) - Jodi Arias, a California woman convicted in a sensational trial of brutally murdering her ex-boyfriend, is eligible for the death penalty after an Arizona jury found on Wednesday that she had inflicted extreme cruelty on her victim.
The same jury convicted Arias last week of first-degree murder in the death of 30-year-old Travis Alexander, whose body was found slumped in the shower of his Phoenix area home five years ago. She had stabbed him 27 times, slashed his throat and shot him in the face.
The jury, which recessed for the day after rendering its verdict in the penalty phase of the trial, was due to return to court on Thursday to weigh additional evidence to decide whether to actually sentence Arias to death or to life in prison.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/15/us-usa-crime-jodiarias-idUSBRE94E13720130515
By Brad Poole
Wed May 15, 2013 6:55pm EDT
(Reuters) - Jodi Arias, a California woman convicted in a sensational trial of brutally murdering her ex-boyfriend, is eligible for the death penalty after an Arizona jury found on Wednesday that she had inflicted extreme cruelty on her victim.
The same jury convicted Arias last week of first-degree murder in the death of 30-year-old Travis Alexander, whose body was found slumped in the shower of his Phoenix area home five years ago. She had stabbed him 27 times, slashed his throat and shot him in the face.
The jury, which recessed for the day after rendering its verdict in the penalty phase of the trial, was due to return to court on Thursday to weigh additional evidence to decide whether to actually sentence Arias to death or to life in prison.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/15/us-usa-crime-jodiarias-idUSBRE94E13720130515
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Watching Dateline - Anyone notice that the shirt JA wore today when she was found guilty of aggravation was the same shirt she wore when ALV testified that TA was abusive to women? Bad luck shirt Jodi... Be sure to burn it before your automatic appeal when you get the DP. LMFAO.
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Kiekikiki, I like your comment "As long as this beast can spit' lol
I too have sympathy for Jodi's mom. While I am a mother, I cannot imagine how she must feel. I had heard Jodi's mom had something to do with some false evidence and while that is so wrong she must have been manipulated by Jodi. Either way as mother I can imagine still wanting my child to live. I am sure she believes Jodi's lies. I just think a woman as manipulative as Jodi will always have Scheme and she wil use anyone to acomplish it.
Jodi has no remorse and as long as she is alive and able she will torture the Alexander familly with her lies. That was made clear with her post verdict interview.
If she is in general population she will be manipulating and causing harm. Look how she has Donovan tweeting for her. She will have some quality of life and a vile creature like her will survive just fine in prison. I think the main reason I want hrr to get the death penalty is her very limited privleges and freedom.
I too have sympathy for Jodi's mom. While I am a mother, I cannot imagine how she must feel. I had heard Jodi's mom had something to do with some false evidence and while that is so wrong she must have been manipulated by Jodi. Either way as mother I can imagine still wanting my child to live. I am sure she believes Jodi's lies. I just think a woman as manipulative as Jodi will always have Scheme and she wil use anyone to acomplish it.
Jodi has no remorse and as long as she is alive and able she will torture the Alexander familly with her lies. That was made clear with her post verdict interview.
If she is in general population she will be manipulating and causing harm. Look how she has Donovan tweeting for her. She will have some quality of life and a vile creature like her will survive just fine in prison. I think the main reason I want hrr to get the death penalty is her very limited privleges and freedom.
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I can only speak as myself as a mother. I would do anything for any of my 8 children. I love them more than I love myself. We lost one of them to a preventive heart surgery. That is pain and you feel it forever. Then we lost her son to leukemia. Another shock to our system. The feeling of losing a child or grandchild to death continues like the waves in the ocean. Some days the waves are large and sometimes the ocean is calm. We also had a girl who at the age of 8. I found out she had been molested sexually. This was during the age that it was not discussed. I protected her and the other children and faced the situation head on. No one was going to hurt my kids and get away with it.
With that said, when any of the kids did something wrong we held them accountable. I let one sit in jail one night in order to teach a lesson. Another one I made leave the house until tough love worked and they returned a better person. There are many stories I could tell with so many kids. No point right now.
If I were Sandy I would love her to pieces, support her emotionally, BUT I would try to help her take responsibility NOW. I would support the jury's decision to her. She does not have to turn her back but needs to understand and hope Jodi can accept that kind of love. I would visit her but do nothing against the law and strive to get her physchogical support in prison before she dies. I also would be thankful that she could not influence my other children.
Just speaking from point of view. I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for not getting her help earlier.
This just one mother's opinion.
With that said, when any of the kids did something wrong we held them accountable. I let one sit in jail one night in order to teach a lesson. Another one I made leave the house until tough love worked and they returned a better person. There are many stories I could tell with so many kids. No point right now.
If I were Sandy I would love her to pieces, support her emotionally, BUT I would try to help her take responsibility NOW. I would support the jury's decision to her. She does not have to turn her back but needs to understand and hope Jodi can accept that kind of love. I would visit her but do nothing against the law and strive to get her physchogical support in prison before she dies. I also would be thankful that she could not influence my other children.
Just speaking from point of view. I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for not getting her help earlier.
This just one mother's opinion.
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This is funny!
Sounds like OJ was listening to ... JA?
(No jury will convict me...)
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/05/15/oj-simpson-testifies-new-trial-plea-deal
Sounds like OJ was listening to ... JA?
(No jury will convict me...)
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/05/15/oj-simpson-testifies-new-trial-plea-deal
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Weeziethm wrote:Sarainbc wrote:When is Andea Sneiderman going to trial?
iirc, July 29
Thanks I will be keeping an eye out for that.
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Julie Christie spoke to HLN last February re JA...
TWO WEEKS prior to his murder? Timing is so wrong... unless ...???
"...On Tuesday night, HLN’s Dr. Drew took a moment to talk to one of Alexander's friends who was with him and Arias at a dinner just two weeks before the killing. ... "
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/02/26/woman-recalls-dinner-jodi-travis-weeks-killing
TWO WEEKS prior to his murder? Timing is so wrong... unless ...???
"...On Tuesday night, HLN’s Dr. Drew took a moment to talk to one of Alexander's friends who was with him and Arias at a dinner just two weeks before the killing. ... "
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/02/26/woman-recalls-dinner-jodi-travis-weeks-killing
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Pianist wrote:I can only speak as myself as a mother. I would do anything for any of my 8 children. I love them more than I love myself. We lost one of them to a preventive heart surgery. That is pain and you feel it forever. Then we lost her son to leukemia. Another shock to our system. The feeling of losing a child or grandchild to death continues like the waves in the ocean. Some days the waves are large and sometimes the ocean is calm. We also had a girl who at the age of 8. I found out she had been molested sexually. This was during the age that it was not discussed. I protected her and the other children and faced the situation head on. No one was going to hurt my kids and get away with it.
With that said, when any of the kids did something wrong we held them accountable. I let one sit in jail one night in order to teach a lesson. Another one I made leave the house until tough love worked and they returned a better person. There are many stories I could tell with so many kids. No point right now.
If I were Sandy I would love her to pieces, support her emotionally, BUT I would try to help her take responsibility NOW. I would support the jury's decision to her. She does not have to turn her back but needs to understand and hope Jodi can accept that kind of love. I would visit her but do nothing against the law and strive to get her physchogical support in prison before she dies. I also would be thankful that she could not influence my other children.
Just speaking from point of view. I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for not getting her help earlier.
This just one mother's opinion.
I am so sorry for your losses and all that you have gone through Pianist.
And I agree that is exactly how Jodi's mom Sandy should handle the terrible situation that Jodi has put her in. She is a mother and she feels the hurt just like any other mother would.
As for getting her help, I am sure she wishes she could have done so, however, I suspect that Jodi resisted any offers or pleas to get help. she seems like she did not accept a lot of the advice from her defence team and she is very willful.
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Weeziethm wrote:Sarainbc wrote:When is Andea Sneiderman going to trial?
iirc, July 29
Weezie, you are correct.
Sarainbc, here's an article you might be interested in reading:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/judge-sets-trial-date-andrea-sneiderman/nWWmw/
WSB-TV -- Atlanta, GA 2/21/13
Judge sets trial date for Andrea Sneiderman
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Ann thank you for that article. Looks to be a very interesting case.
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Sarainbc wrote:Pianist wrote:I can only speak as myself as a mother. I would do anything for any of my 8 children. I love them more than I love myself. We lost one of them to a preventive heart surgery. That is pain and you feel it forever. Then we lost her son to leukemia. Another shock to our system. The feeling of losing a child or grandchild to death continues like the waves in the ocean. Some days the waves are large and sometimes the ocean is calm. We also had a girl who at the age of 8. I found out she had been molested sexually. This was during the age that it was not discussed. I protected her and the other children and faced the situation head on. No one was going to hurt my kids and get away with it.
With that said, when any of the kids did something wrong we held them accountable. I let one sit in jail one night in order to teach a lesson. Another one I made leave the house until tough love worked and they returned a better person. There are many stories I could tell with so many kids. No point right now.
If I were Sandy I would love her to pieces, support her emotionally, BUT I would try to help her take responsibility NOW. I would support the jury's decision to her. She does not have to turn her back but needs to understand and hope Jodi can accept that kind of love. I would visit her but do nothing against the law and strive to get her physchogical support in prison before she dies. I also would be thankful that she could not influence my other children.
Just speaking from point of view. I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for not getting her help earlier.
This just one mother's opinion.
I am so sorry for your losses and all that you have gone through Pianist.
And I agree that is exactly how Jodi's mom Sandy should handle the terrible situation that Jodi has put her in. She is a mother and she feels the hurt just like any other mother would.
As for getting her help, I am sure she wishes she could have done so, however, I suspect that Jodi resisted any offers or pleas to get help. she seems like she did not accept a lot of the advice from her defence team and she is very willful.
The help had to be given when she was young when parents can get it and not have her permission as a young adult. JMO
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Pianist wrote:I can only speak as myself as a mother. I would do anything for any of my 8 children. I love them more than I love myself. We lost one of them to a preventive heart surgery. That is pain and you feel it forever. Then we lost her son to leukemia. Another shock to our system. The feeling of losing a child or grandchild to death continues like the waves in the ocean. Some days the waves are large and sometimes the ocean is calm. We also had a girl who at the age of 8. I found out she had been molested sexually. This was during the age that it was not discussed. I protected her and the other children and faced the situation head on. No one was going to hurt my kids and get away with it.
With that said, when any of the kids did something wrong we held them accountable. I let one sit in jail one night in order to teach a lesson. Another one I made leave the house until tough love worked and they returned a better person. There are many stories I could tell with so many kids. No point right now.
If I were Sandy I would love her to pieces, support her emotionally, BUT I would try to help her take responsibility NOW. I would support the jury's decision to her. She does not have to turn her back but needs to understand and hope Jodi can accept that kind of love. I would visit her but do nothing against the law and strive to get her physchogical support in prison before she dies. I also would be thankful that she could not influence my other children.
Just speaking from point of view. I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for not getting her help earlier.
This just one mother's opinion.
AGREED! I really have to start reading to the end of a thread before I post. Loosing a child is a horrid pain that is never dulled... but some days it is calm... I am sorry for your losses. You seem to have a really good handle on your feelings and dealing with "the days". I think it is going to be very tough for Mom A as she will have the wait.. that being said I would bet a thousand dollars that the Alexander family would if they couldn't change the ultimate outcome would gladly have waited the 12 years that it will take before a dp is completed... (not sure if my intent was clear ... so if they could have 12 more years but knew in 12 years it was going to happen they would take the time.)
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Sarainbc wrote:Kiekikiki, I like your comment "As long as this beast can spit' lol
I too have sympathy for Jodi's mom. While I am a mother, I cannot imagine how she must feel. I had heard Jodi's mom had something to do with some false evidence and while that is so wrong she must have been manipulated by Jodi. Either way as mother I can imagine still wanting my child to live. I am sure she believes Jodi's lies. I just think a woman as manipulative as Jodi will always have Scheme and she wil use anyone to acomplish it.
Jodi has no remorse and as long as she is alive and able she will torture the Alexander familly with her lies. That was made clear with her post verdict interview.
If she is in general population she will be manipulating and causing harm. Look how she has Donovan tweeting for her. She will have some quality of life and a vile creature like her will survive just fine in prison. I think the main reason I want hrr to get the death penalty is her very limited privleges and freedom.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for her mother. Her mother immediately suspected JA of killing Travis. That's telling, and quite chilling. There are very, very, good reasons I'm sure that she suspected this. In part, I personally hold her partially responsible. Had she, or anyone who really claims to have cared about JA said or done anything to the proper authorities, there's a chance this trial would not have ever happened, simply because a psycopath would have been controlled.
Instead, she's taken the low road by:
1. laughing, chortling, snickering, smirking in court while seated next to the victims - even while pictures of the victim in a murdered state were being displayed
2. eating in court while showing pictures of the true victim
3. has made no statement as to why she would support someone she has described as "violent" "hostile" "abusive" and yet does 1 and 2. You want to be in a public trial, deal with the wrath should you not explain your OWN crazy behavior.
My opinion. If I happened to pass by her having a heart attack on the street - I'd keep walking. I don't have the energy to rescue evil - the more I watch this, the more I begin to understand where JA's own came from.
Edit note: I'm a parent of a 17 year old, a 4 year old, and a 2 year old - and as much as dearly love my children, I could never stand behind them in a situation like this where the evidence is SOOO overwhelming, and to be thrown under the bus by my own murdering children. Screw that. That's called the "School of Hard Knocks".
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Someone on facebook just said that alyce lavilette will be up to testify for jodi tomorrow
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Mari 68 wrote:Someone on facebook just said that alyce lavilette will be up to testify for jodi tomorrow
Yeah, that was a doc from May of 2012. Too bad. I kinda wanted to see her tank her career some more lol.
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I would laugh until I fell off my chair if AV (oops correction AL) actually showed up again!
I always think of her as Alyce Victim so got confused...
I always think of her as Alyce Victim so got confused...
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Jodi Arias Murder Trail. Aggravation Phase Starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkOgpcRZt94&feature=youtu.be
Jodi Arias Murder Trail. Aggravation Phase Done. Sentencing Phase Starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4FXHPpS2I
Jodi Arias Murder Trial Aggravation Phase Verdict Reached. Aggravation Proven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIJG36JXwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkOgpcRZt94&feature=youtu.be
Jodi Arias Murder Trail. Aggravation Phase Done. Sentencing Phase Starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4FXHPpS2I
Jodi Arias Murder Trial Aggravation Phase Verdict Reached. Aggravation Proven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIJG36JXwU
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gsweater wrote:Sarainbc wrote:Kiekikiki, I like your comment "As long as this beast can spit' lol
I too have sympathy for Jodi's mom. While I am a mother, I cannot imagine how she must feel. I had heard Jodi's mom had something to do with some false evidence and while that is so wrong she must have been manipulated by Jodi. Either way as mother I can imagine still wanting my child to live. I am sure she believes Jodi's lies. I just think a woman as manipulative as Jodi will always have Scheme and she wil use anyone to acomplish it.
Jodi has no remorse and as long as she is alive and able she will torture the Alexander familly with her lies. That was made clear with her post verdict interview.
If she is in general population she will be manipulating and causing harm. Look how she has Donovan tweeting for her. She will have some quality of life and a vile creature like her will survive just fine in prison. I think the main reason I want hrr to get the death penalty is her very limited privleges and freedom.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for her mother. Her mother immediately suspected JA of killing Travis. That's telling, and quite chilling. There are very, very, good reasons I'm sure that she suspected this. In part, I personally hold her partially responsible. Had she, or anyone who really claims to have cared about JA said or done anything to the proper authorities, there's a chance this trial would not have ever happened, simply because a psycopath would have been controlled.
Instead, she's taken the low road by:
1. laughing, chortling, snickering, smirking in court while seated next to the victims - even while pictures of the victim in a murdered state were being displayed
2. eating in court while showing pictures of the true victim
3. has made no statement as to why she would support someone she has described as "violent" "hostile" "abusive" and yet does 1 and 2. You want to be in a public trial, deal with the wrath should you not explain your OWN crazy behavior.
My opinion. If I happened to pass by her having a heart attack on the street - I'd keep walking. I don't have the energy to rescue evil - the more I watch this, the more I begin to understand where JA's own came from.
Edit note: I'm a parent of a 17 year old, a 4 year old, and a 2 year old - and as much as dearly love my children, I could never stand behind them in a situation like this where the evidence is SOOO overwhelming, and to be thrown under the bus by my own murdering children. Screw that. That's called the "School of Hard Knocks".
I think emotional support as a mother is different than supporting her actions. But a question is if that evil person who was having a heart attack were your child would you walk on by or get them help? I personally would have to get them help just because they were my child. That is not how I expect others to feel. It is me that feels that way. Once they received the help I would personally take them back to prison to pay their dues. JMO
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Mari 68 wrote:Someone on facebook just said that alyce lavilette will be up to testify for jodi tomorrow
so....no credibility defending no credibility. Good move...Not!
The issue of remorse is what I will be looking for; how and if the defense will present that. IIRC, Juan was prohibited from alluding to lack of remorse in his CIC and Aggravation phase today. Now, not so much. Funny/ironic that JAA states that she has REGRETS - not REMORSE. Her regrets are that she got caught/wasn't believed/gig is up. Remorse is non existent - just look at the post guilty verdict interview so cunningly orchestrated; planned... premeditated. All reports indicate she is still scheming; planning; laying out strategy. If you can believe HLN, she was huddled with defense attorneys after "proven" verdict, and ignored mom. that's our heroine (snark)...
Of course, it is all for naught. She is convicted of M1. She is convicted of especially cruel murder. Is she done...in our dreams, but not in a new york minute. This girl will scratch and scheme and poison everything she touch til the bitter end. Haha on her that her media options were cut off by the Judge....bet she was royally pizzed off by that!
Sorry for the random thoughts. JAA is a crazy making thing. But the jury provides a portal for redemption. And justice. Travis' family gets their turn. Their voice. The truth.
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http://www.kpho.com/story/22238826/jurors-decide-jodi-arias-is-eligible-for-death-penalty
KPHO - Phoenix, AZ 5/15/13
Jurors decide Jodi Arias is eligible for death penalty
Snipped:
On Monday, Arias was taken off suicide watch and transferred back to the all-female Estrella Jail.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Arias will remain there "on closed custody status." She is alone in a cell and is being allowed out one hour each day to access phone calls and showers.
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Jodi Arias, Life or Death? Mini-trial to determine convicted killer's fate
May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
By Crimesider Staff
CBS/AP) Now that a jury has ruled that convicted killer Jodi Arias is eligible for the death penalty, the case will move into a penalty phase -- the final portion of the trial that launched in early January.
~Snipped~
During the phase, the defense is expected to call witnesses that will likely include Arias' family in an attempt to save her life.
The defense may also spotlight Arias' lack of criminal history and alleged abuse and mental health issues as "mitigating factors" that could outweigh the aggravating factor of cruelty, Lisa Wayne, a Colorado criminal defense attorney and immediate past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
Arias will be allowed to speak to the jury, and Alexander's family could make victim impact statements, the Arizona Republic reported.
Read more:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57584738-504083/jodi-arias-life-or-death-mini-trial-to-determine-convicted-killers-fate/
May 15, 2013 8:34 PM
By Crimesider Staff
CBS/AP) Now that a jury has ruled that convicted killer Jodi Arias is eligible for the death penalty, the case will move into a penalty phase -- the final portion of the trial that launched in early January.
~Snipped~
During the phase, the defense is expected to call witnesses that will likely include Arias' family in an attempt to save her life.
The defense may also spotlight Arias' lack of criminal history and alleged abuse and mental health issues as "mitigating factors" that could outweigh the aggravating factor of cruelty, Lisa Wayne, a Colorado criminal defense attorney and immediate past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
Arias will be allowed to speak to the jury, and Alexander's family could make victim impact statements, the Arizona Republic reported.
Read more:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57584738-504083/jodi-arias-life-or-death-mini-trial-to-determine-convicted-killers-fate/
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Ah horrible day at work. Nice to come home and unwind reading all the updates.
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Alessandra_Deux wrote:Jodi Arias Murder Trail. Aggravation Phase Starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkOgpcRZt94&feature=youtu.be
Jodi Arias Murder Trail. Aggravation Phase Done. Sentencing Phase Starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4FXHPpS2I
Jodi Arias Murder Trial Aggravation Phase Verdict Reached. Aggravation Proven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIJG36JXwU
As always, I am most grateful for your bringing the youtube daily vids to RC.
Without fail, you have been most dedicated in seeing the readers have the opportunity to " allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"catch up" on the daily court activities. Thank you.
In Nurmi's statements to the court:
I am most surprised he did NOT emphasize the "victim" who was "attacked" first by Travis and only responded with fear. This is what the dteam has alleged all these months: JA was in fear for her life, Travis was making threatening statements, and Travis had initiated his own death by attacking her from the shower. Perhaps, the dteam has become aware of the stupidity of her excuse for her action? Perhaps, the dteam is fully aware of... the three hole wonder with her three gas cans ... and they decided to "change up " their argument. The problem is: Unless you have a valid reason for changing your story, you stick to it especially this late in the trial. For some reason, I do not find the dteam's heart in their final defense arguments. They did NOT defend her with a review of their prior presentations. They simply attacked the prosecutor's presentation of HIS case. This tells me, due to the actions of the attys, JA HAS had a direct influence on how the case was to be presented. This is pure risky and stupid for she lacks court presence and knowledge of the law. You don't pay the atty for his expertize and then DISREGARD said expertize you are buying! (Would I hire a mechanic to fix my car and then tell him what to fix or not fix? Would I tell a plumber the best way to lay pipe for a new bathroom sink or toilet installation? Would I tell a pilot how to fly his plane.... in the midst of a thunder storm? IF so, then why pay for the expert opinion if I intend to disregard it and INSIST it be done MY way?)
IMO, this is part of the reason the dteam has put forth a poor case.
Other factors to be considered:
Neither Wilmot or Nurmi could "think on their feet" as different material was being presented and THEY needed to angle the questions/statements toward what ACTUALLY was before the court.
Neither was solid in understanding case law for objections to be effective: While the many objections were designed to "upset" the presentations by the prosecutor (and they may have had some small impact) the objections served more to underscore the MANY sidebars, the MANY "over ruled" in favor of the state.
Court attire and attitude:
Nurmi needed to stop "lounging" in his chair as if the case/facts were boring and of no consequence; Wilmot needed to stop her pen scratchings and look attentive; JA needed to stop her "whispering for attention" to Wilmot and writing her notes, smiling little secretive smiles; JA needed to realize she murdered Travis almost FIVE years ago! JA has SEEN these pictures many times PRIOR to court. The fountain of tears just. does. not. work.
Nurmi needs to get some reasonable suits, shirts, ties. Folks, he is NOT a hippie lost in the '60s. Wilmot NEEDS to get rid of the hair mane she hides behind--- it not only is unbecoming professionally to an adult woman, it makes her look as if she is hiding something. She needs professional assistance with her dress, her color choices, suit styles, and open the dang suit to show a blouse or top or something other than a frigid woman buttoned up like some 18th century widow with her show-off of buttons!
A nice pantsuit enhancing her figure with open mid-thigh jacket would be nice...
JMO thots along the way.
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Ariel Castro plead "not guilty". For sure, a new fake story is on the tracks...
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keikikiki wrote:Stone cold demon eyes.
Adios, Ho-dog.
Good luck slippin' past God without a sit down.
Sick bioytch.
Hi Kik~
Love this post! Hope you're doin' o.k....
Good day for the Alexanders---especially after having to hear and see the terrible way Travis died all over again. I am REALLY looking forward to their impact statements.
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ladymary wrote:I believe she can still get parole, but I really doubt it. The way the jurors said yes, on both phases just tells me that they know what she did, she's lying about everything, and most importantly they will listen to his family tomorrow saying they want her to get the Death Penalty, and I believe they will see justice is doneMrskinger wrote:So is she looking at life without parole or the death penalty or could she get paroled ?
Hi Ladymary! Welcome! (I'm '18thcenturylady, and MY name is Mary!)
Alexander family CANNOT ask for the death penalty or mention it in impact statements. There are rules that govern what they can say. They will be talking about how Travis death affected them, and the loss. I HOPE they will be telling the jury what a wonderful person he was and that everything Hodi said was LIES LIES and MORE LIES...
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glazier wrote:This next phase is where her horrendous unmentionable accusations will really bite her in her unkempt tush!
The Jurors voices were even more strong than last verdict!
They ain't buyin' what she's sellin' AND NEVER DID!
If they can show that document where Hodi basically ATTEMPTS BLACKMAIL of the Alexanders with the plea nonsense....SHE IS TOAST, imo.
Combine that with the POST Verdict interview and her continued taunting of the Family...and the Jury will believe she has NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.
and ZERO remorse
I did not think I would say this...but I think they will vote for the DP.( not that she will actually get it but the 23/7 lockdown is what she deserves)
I don't know if only the defense can speak now in mitigation, or if the prosecution can also have a say to argue for the DP. Anyone know? If so, I don't know if they can bring in stuff that was deemed "too prejudicial" in the trial. Can anyone out there enlighten us?
I do know that the Alexander family can speak about Travis, but is NOT allowed to say they want the DP, or ask for it.
I too AM HOPING Juan has a chance to get up and present some of Hodi's low-down tricks the jury never heard before!
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Sarainbc wrote:Can she continue to defame Travis now that she has been convicted and it is clear that the Jury does not believe her? That just seems wrong. It has been decided that it was murder, premeditated and cruel. So Is she allowed to rehash it again?
I THINK Jodi will have one chance to speak in court in the mitigation and can probably say whatever she wants. It would not suprise me if stupid a---does just what she did in the interview and trashes Travis. I honestly do not think she will suddenly pretend to show remorse---but who knows?
One small thing---I am SICK of this b----coming into court in silk blouses, etc. SHE'S BEEN CONVICTED AND IMO SHE SHOULD HEREAFTER BE IN COURT IN JAIL STRIPES!
Jodi's sense of entitlement is only growing in part because to some extent she has been ALLOWED to act like a spoiled child and petty tyrant, and control a lot of what's gone on in court. THAT SHOULD BE OVER!
I wish we'd see her in court in her 'jail threads', and I HOPE that now the Alexanders come into court with Travis photo firmly attached and prominently displayed on their blue ribbons!
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I would not be surprised if she gets parole after 25 years. This could be a compromise for some jurors that would let her a chance to rehab.
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I will crap if AL testifies again..but I think Jodi will take the stand to attempt to manipulate the jury into giving her whatev she really wants..she kinda has to,IMO.
I have to work today as the shop will be closed Saturday due to all the guys going drag racing for the next few days. My boss is a driver..my hubby and a couple others are his crew.The entire thing is a yawn fest for me so I am totally cool being left behind..lol
I have to work today as the shop will be closed Saturday due to all the guys going drag racing for the next few days. My boss is a driver..my hubby and a couple others are his crew.The entire thing is a yawn fest for me so I am totally cool being left behind..lol
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