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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:04 am

Media hearing has concluded.  JSS is NOT releasing transcripts of JA's secret testiphony (intended!) until the Supreme Court either rejects taking the case or ruling on stay request.  Status hearing set for next Friday the 16th if they have not heard from SC by then.  

Not sure what happens at scheduled 10 am trial time.  Either no trial or probably Sue Doe Nimh (credit AZL), BN's go to computer guy!
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:31 am

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 32m
Stephens: "It would be inappropriate for this court to enter an order that would undermine the AZ Supreme Court's ability to decide..."


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 36m
Judge Stephens punts: "This matter is before the Supreme Court...If I release the transcript, potential damage could not be undone."


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 38m
Bodney notes #JodiArias did not want media presence to cloud her ability to answer. "She got her wish," now turn over transcript, he says.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 40m
Media attorney David Bodney now counters: "I think that issue has been decided." He notes that Supreme Court has not granted a stay.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 41m
This morning in #jodiarias hearing, Kirk Nurmi asks Judge Sherry Stephens to ignore the Court of Appeals order to release Arias transcript

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:45 am

Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom . 3m
I don't think SCOA would send it back, think it would make the call #JodiARias

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The SCOA could accept the case, it is an interesting issue, yet I think the public's right has strong precedent #JodiArias


Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom  . 30m
No set time limit for SCOA to accept/deny see AZ Rules of Civil Appellate Pro Rule 23 #JodiArias

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:03 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  1m
Pseudonym is about to take the stand. #Jodiarias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  2m
The work drive motion will be argued later. Stephens brings in the jury. how about that?


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  2m
Judge Stephens will allow Pseudonym to testify. On to the other motion to preclude work drive, which Martinez says he has not reviewed.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  3m
Martinez just said Neumeister didn't know what he was doing. #Jodiarias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  5m
Martinez says that he was led to believe that Pseudonym wouldn't testify. Now wants him precluded. Pseudonym is the tech who did actual eval


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  5m
Nurmi says testimony will show Alexander looked at porn night and day. Calls him Jekyll and Hyde. #Jodiarias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  6m
Nurmi: "The state is asking you to preclude mitigation." Refutes Martinez' statement that Travis Alexander did not view internet porn.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer .  9m
Defense filed motion this a.m. to keep Juan Martinez from talking about computer expert Bryan Neumeister's "work drives" to confuse jury.


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They are arguing now over whether the computer tech called Pseudonym can testify in #Jodiarias. Juan Martinez says no.


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Back in #JodiArias courtroom, waiting for the show to resume.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:29 pm

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Pseudonym is being called John Smith for the purpose of testimony. He calls himself a data scientist. #Jodiarias

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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:05 pm

2 things as I'm following along....

Pseudonym is testifying about a Toshiba, but didn't Travis have a Compaq Presario?

He testified he went to Mesa PD to examine the hard drive in August 2014 for 3 days....what were the dates that JA was pro se???

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:06 pm

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Smith says there is a history of visits to pornographic sites #jodiarias #3tvarias


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Smith breaks the news about the porn to the jury. #jodiarias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 6m
Smith says he has only had access to 2008 image for three days. #jodiarias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 6m
Smith says testimony today will be based on 2008 drive


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 7m
Nurmi got "Smith" to say that Mesa PD made two images of computer, one in 2008, one in 2009. Gave altered 2009 image to defense. #

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:14 pm

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Judge Stephens asks the jury to disregard the questions. Nurmi begins laying necessary foundation, starting with defining writeblocker.


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Martinez objects repeatedly when Nurmi phrases questions that refer to Mesa PD mishandling the computer. sidebar.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:24 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 1m
One of the internet browsers had porn history on it, Smith says. Objection. Martinez asks to approach. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 1m
When Nurmi asks if cleaner programs help you cover your tracks, Martinex objects. Overruled.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  . 3m
Smith says the cleaner programs have "different jobs" even if they overlap. Martinez objects repeatedly.


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Smith tells Nurmi there was a "significant amount" of cleaner programs on the Alexander computer. #JodiArias

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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:36 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 42s42 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Jury is looking all over. Some in distance, some notes, some at Mr. Smith, some Nurmi #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:36 pm

Weeziethm wrote:2 things as I'm following along....

Pseudonym is testifying about a Toshiba, but didn't Travis have a Compaq Presario?

He testified he went to Mesa PD to examine the hard drive in August 2014 for 3 days....what were the dates that JA was pro se???


Hi Weeziethem!

I don't know the answers to those question. I will try to look them up to see what I can find.

It is very nice to "see" you!
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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:39 pm

Hi AD....you too!  Happy New Year Very Happy

Thank you!  I'll keep trying to post today as much as I can!!

eta: some posters on WS are saying the hard drive may have been manufactured by Toshiba although the laptop is a Compaq??
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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:44 pm

Here is a link to a pretty good site that tracks the Arias trial tweets....

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:45 pm

@Weeziethm:

It is possible, re: the hard drive ...

Happy New Year to you also!!! Very Happy
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:49 pm

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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:00 pm

Lunch until 1:30 MT dancing
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:22 pm

Thank you, Weeziethm!
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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:39 pm

Weeziethm wrote:Lengthy article on the computer issues....highly recommended reading!  Even a layman like me could understand!

http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=1
Wow! What a find!!! The author is so informative she reminded me of Valhall. Excellent read! Thanks:newspaper: for the share.
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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:41 pm

Weeziethm wrote:Hi AD....you too!  Happy New Year Very Happy

Thank you!  I'll keep trying to post today as much as I can!!

eta:  some posters on WS are saying the hard drive may have been manufactured by Toshiba although the laptop is a Compaq??
I doubt Travis would have switched out the hard drive.... Shocked :shock:It appears to have been tampered with. Maybe, that Tony guy did it? roflao
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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:42 pm

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Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 45m 45 minutes ago

Geffner isn't coming back until Jan 20th to finish up
#jodiarias #3tvarias

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:43 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 56m
Smith says the alteration to the computer could not have been caused by virus. #JodiArias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 57m
Nurmi asks how to tell if the porn came from virus or was sought out by a user. #JodiArias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 58m
That is essentially how Mesa PD recovered the final photos of Travis Alexander though they had been deleted from camera memory.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer . 1h
Smith is explaining how when things are deleted, they linger in unallocated space that can be written over. #Jodiarias

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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:46 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2h 2 hours ago

Pseudonym is being called John Smith for the purpose of testimony. He calls himself a data scientist.
#Jodiarias
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 4h 4 hours ago

Stephens sets another hearing on the transcripts for next Friday, if there is no ruling from the Arizona Supreme Court. #JodiArias
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 4h 4 hours ago

Stephens: "It would be inappropriate for this court to enter an order that would undermine the AZ Supreme Court's ability to decide..."


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  ·  4h 4 hours ago

Bodney notes #JodiArias did not want media presence to cloud her ability to answer. "She got her wish," now turn over transcript, he says.
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  ·  4h 4 hours ago

Media attorney David Bodney now counters: "I think that issue has been decided." He notes that Supreme Court has not granted a stay.
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  ·  4h 4 hours ago

This morning in #jodiarias hearing, Kirk Nurmi asks Judge Sherry Stephens to ignore the Court of Appeals order to release Arias transcript

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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2h 2 hours ago

Smith says he has only had access to 2008 image for three days. #jodiarias
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2h 2 hours ago

Smith says testimony today will be based on 2008 drive.
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2h 2 hours ago

Nurmi got "Smith" to say that Mesa PD made two images of computer, one in 2008, one in 2009. Gave altered 2009 image to defense. #jodiarias
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2h 2 hours ago

I am following "Smith's" testimony about computers because of ongoing hearings, but just realized the jury knows nothing of it.


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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:52 pm

Freckles wrote:
Weeziethm wrote:Lengthy article on the computer issues....highly recommended reading!  Even a layman like me could understand!

http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=1
Wow! What a find!!! The author is so informative  she reminded me of Valhall. Excellent read! Thanks:newspaper:  for the share.

Valhall....YES, me too!
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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:52 pm

Weeziethm wrote:Hi AD....you too!  Happy New Year Very Happy

Thank you!  I'll keep trying to post today as much as I can!!

eta:  some posters on WS are saying the hard drive may have been manufactured by Toshiba although the laptop is a Compaq??

Michael Kiefer retweeted
Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2h 2 hours ago

Hahaha the diagram is Nurmi drawing a box and writing in it Toshiba. Juan objects #jodiarias #3tvarias

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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:58 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2h2 hours ago Phoenix, AZ

History can be wiped, temp files etc., spybot is on there, registry cleaners, pop up blockers #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2h2 hours ago

Smith says it's just files you don't need anymore. #jodiarias
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2h2 hours ago

Smith doesn't make it sound malicious but Nurmi is trying to make it sound malicious through questioning. #jodiarias
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Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2h2 hours ago

Smith tells Nurmi there was a "significant amount" of cleaner programs on the Alexander computer. #JodiArias
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2h2 hours ago

Smith said cleaner files were used on TA's comp after being collected for evidence. #jodiarias


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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:00 pm

Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 2h2 hours ago

Smith says about 288 files were modified on the June 10, 2008 image he's looking at. #jodiarias
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According to Smith... June 10 2008 - How many files modified? Answer: 288.


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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:04 pm

Weeziethm wrote:Media hearing has concluded.  JSS is NOT releasing transcripts of JA's secret testiphony (intended!) until the Supreme Court either rejects taking the case or ruling on stay request.  Status hearing set for next Friday the 16th if they have not heard from SC by then.  

Not sure what happens at scheduled 10 am trial time.  Either no trial or probably Sue Doe Nimh (credit AZL), BN's go to computer guy!
Some of that is audio only....no recording of visual.
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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:09 pm

TDoggAngels ‏@Angels_Dwell 2m2 minutes ago

@capemayniac pointed out earlier Toshiba made the hard drives for Compaq Presarios back in the day #jodiarias

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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:29 pm

@TrialDiariesJ: Motion to Dismiss will be heard at 1:30pm MST tomorrow for #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:31 pm

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer · 1m1 minute ago
AZ Supreme Court denies stay of appeals court order to release transcripts of #jodiarias testimony.

Take THAT, Nurms

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:11 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  50s   
But you have to have a likelihood of success to get a stay. If you don't get a stay, it means the court doesn't expect to rule in your favor


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  3m   
Nurmi asked Supreme Court to not allow release of transcript while it considers its final decision. The court said no. The appeal continues.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  5m  
Smith explains that some of the porn sites visited were deliberately sought out. #jodiarias

 
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Smith is suggesting multiple tabs were opened at same time #jodiarias #3tvarias


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Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10  ·  10m  
Computer expert, dry as toast, reading alacious names of porn sites in perfectly flat voice. #jodiarias


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  20m  
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:15 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer  .  4m
Some of the cleaning programs on Alexander's computer are actually malware posing as cleaners, per expert "Smith."

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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:16 pm

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 4m4 minutes ago

Some of the cleaning programs on Alexander's computer are actually malware posing as cleaners, per expert "Smith."
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Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 4m4 minutes ago

Def. expert says can't say if there is child porn-hasn't opened sites-but says there are "teen" sites on TA's computer

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live



Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 2m2 minutes ago

#jodiarias secret transcripts to be released says Az Supreme Court
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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:17 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 53s53 seconds ago
Juan is up!!!
He asks mystery man for his name....lol OMG this will be good..sidebar

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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:17 pm

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 45s45 seconds ago

Martinez' first question is to demand "Smith/Pseudonym's real name. Nurmi objects. Sidebar. Short recess.
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago

Juan had Wheaties for lunch bc he's sassy. #jodiarias
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago

Nurmi done. Juan jumps up, immediately asks witness for name. Nurmi objects. Sidebar. #jodiarias

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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:20 pm

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 3m3 minutes ago

Now there's movement. 1/16 deadline set for all briefs to AZ Supreme Court.
Cool CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 4m4 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

It is now up to Judge Stevens to officially release Arias transcript. Hoping to get it today. Stay tuned
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Post by Freckles Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:20 pm

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 55s56 seconds ago

#JodiArias still talking to Willmott. Animated conversation. She's taken her glasses off now. She looks concerned.


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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:23 pm

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  1m   
Stephens just left the courtroom. Is she going to check the law on this issue? Or is she going to the powder room?


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  3m   
Martinez' first question is to demand "Smith/Pseudonym's real name. Nurmi objects. Sidebar. Short recess.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  4m   
Sorry, meant to say Nurmi is done.


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer   ·  4m    
Martinez objects when Nurmi asks if the cleaner programs were to hide where the user had been online. Sustained. Nurmi objects.

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Post by Weeziethm Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:24 pm

ruh roh, migraine conveniently coming on>>


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial  · 1m1 minute ago  
Willmott approaches guard, #JodiArias is leaving out the side door with the guard now and all of her paperwork and folder.


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial  · 2m2 minutes ago  
#JodiArias is standing talking to Willmott and looks as if she is going to cry.


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial  · 2m2 minutes ago  
#JodiArias is upset.


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial  · 3m3 minutes ago  
#JodiArias still talking to Willmott. Animated conversation. She's taken her glasses off now. She looks concerned.


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial  · 4m4 minutes ago  
#JodiArias looks way annoyed as she speaks to Willmott.

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