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Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #27

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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:14 pm

Cookie ‏@Lrod1952 47m47 minutes ago

@groove2theblues This is the only foreplay Nurmi will have for a while.#jodiarias

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:19 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago Phoenix, AZ

SIdebar.... Juan wants to approach he says Nurmi is testifying


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi- Both Dr's that diagnosed Jodi with PTSD had over 30 years experience


Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 4m4 minutes ago

#jodiarias atty:"You didn't publish, do research, give lectures on trauma and PTSD." DeMarte"Correct."
Defense:DeMarte not qualified.


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 6m6 minutes ago

Nurmi subtly criticizing Dr. De's qualifications.


Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 8m8 minutes ago

Now Nurmi is trying to break DeMarte down. Good luck, Nurnuts


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 9m9 minutes ago

Nurmi asks if Dr. De had been licensed for "about a year..." when giving #JodiArias initial tests. "No." she sternly says. "It was a year.."
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 9m9 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi says you gave these tests when you were licensed for 9 months DeMarte- NO


BrownietheBully ‏@BrownietheBully 11m11 minutes ago

Why do Nurmi and Willnot keep trying to interpret these sophisticated psychological tests? They look like fools.


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:22 pm

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m2 minutes ago

Nurmi mocks the witness to create doubt in credibility, "So mind reading?"


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash


Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 6m6 minutes ago

Crime of passions are usually premeditated, right?

(Not w/ 3 gas cans....a gun and a knife!)
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:28 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 7m7 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi- You only know the things you want to know to support your opinions DeMarte- NO

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago

Nurmi says "You are here to answer my questions!"
Juan objects on "Harassment" and Judge overrules
#jodiarias #3tvarias
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Juan Martinez's Tie ‏@juanstie 1m1 minute ago

@TrialDiariesJ Whoa it's getting heated


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 3m3 minutes ago

"You believe it's ok to count your work as a student as EXPERIENCE?" - Nurmi. "Absolutely." - Dr. De


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m2 minutes ago

"You're not even a DOCTOR... right? Do you count your experience in High School?!" - Nurmi


Dedelightful ‏@Dede0808 3m3 minutes ago

@WildaboutTrial2 [b]#JodiArias testified she was going camping with unknown men immediately after murder No avoidance No PTSD[b]


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 3m3 minutes ago

Dr: "Absolutely not. I only count TREATMENT of patients under the supervision of a license psychologist."


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:37 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi asks why DeMarte didn't read Travis's journals DeMarte says she wasn't hired to evaluate Mr. Alexander


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi asks well if TA was abused wouldn't that be important [b]Juan objects this is not to mitigating factors [b]and we have a sidebar

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash


Laurie ‏@StormDanser 4m4 minutes ago

We might get to see Nurmi lose his shit in court today. DeMarte has his blood pressure pegged out! Someone get him a Snickers!


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m2 minutes ago

De says she was evaluating #JodiArias, not Travis Alexander.
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Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m2 minutes ago

Dr De is only a little aware of DV in TA's childhood. Nurmi says her research is incomplete since she's not totally familiar.


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

KN- are you aware TA was exposed to DV as a child DeMarte- I did read he had a difficult childhood but nothing further than that


Cheryl Landedonmoon ‏@DrCherylllP 2m2 minutes ago

@TrialDiariesJ When U have BPD it feels like no 1 ever validates UR emotions. It's an unfair situation. No one can EVER do enough


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 59s59 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi is talking up the Geff and how experienced he is


Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 2m2 minutes ago

DeMarte just corrected Nurmi about what they were talking about....child abuse not domestic violence. Nurmi's all over the place.
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:47 pm

  ‏@PitchingAFit 2m2 minutes ago

If Nurmi thinks Demarte is too inexperienced - WHY is he asking HER to review Geff? You're so backwards, Nurmi

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash


Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago

#jodiarias defense:"You are biased and testifying to something you know nothing about." DeMarte:"That's not correct."

  ‏@PitchingAFit 2m2 minutes ago

Nurmi should know if a jury LIKES the witness-he has to attack the facts, not the person. This is backfiring on him badly.


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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:48 pm

  ‏@PitchingAFit 2m2 minutes ago

Nurmi should know if a jury LIKES the witness-he has to attack the facts, not the person. This is backfiring on him badly.


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi asks if DeMarte reviewed Fonseca's notes and the relationship between TA and JA DeMarte- Yes


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:50 pm

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Brandee ‏@JustBrandee 3m3 minutes ago

@HDoggCos huge backfire to remind the jury what TA had 2 fight through 2 get where he was, just 2 B slaughtered by #jodiarias
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

KN says well people said Jodi was stalking TA said she was sneaking in house. But these people didn't know they were having sex

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

(How would having sex justify sneaking into the house?)
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:55 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 47m47 minutes ago

Nurmi asks if these are symptoms of PTSD..DeMarte says if someone is depressed it doesn't mean they have PTSD #jodiarias #3tvarias
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ESNEET⛵️ ‏@esneet4113 1m1 minute ago

@TrialDiariesJ SLAMBAM!
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:08 pm

Kathy Monkman ‏@katiecoolady 2m2 minutes ago

Why is Nurmi being allowed to testify via this witness? His job is to ask questions. Correct?

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?src=hash


Jeri Caddell ‏@jjcaddell 2m2 minutes ago

RT @WildaboutTrial2: De says although TA did contact #JodiArias sometimes, he found her overwhelming.
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HarleyComo ‏@panhead1055 2m2 minutes ago

@SKrafftFox10 #jodiarias That's because that's all they got! There are no mitagaters for JA no criminal history JA MADE UP FOR IN ONE CRIME


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi- Do you think TA loved Jodi? DeMarte- Early on yes I think he did


who what? ‏@signduptosay 3m3 minutes ago

"@TrialDiariesJ: Nurmi says actions speak louder than words #jodiarias #3tvarias" Murder speaks louder than lies and half truths!
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi- Why did he like having sex with her? DeMarte- Because he liked having sex with her and other aspects about her


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi says TA took advantage of Jodi's Borderline Personality to have sex with her DeMarte - NO


Jodi Arias Updates ‏@JodiAnnArias 12m12 minutes ago

"The facts that contridict your theory you just don't digest." - Kirk Nurmi to Demarte. #jodiarias
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Paty Nando ‏@Patynando 59s59 seconds ago

'@JodiAnnArias:"The facts that contridict ur theory u just don't digest" Kirk Nurmi to Demarte #jodiarias/ MDLR is tweting this FROM COURT!!



https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 12m12 minutes ago

Nurmi says actions speak louder than words #jodiarias

@TrialDiariesJ wtf Nurmi does he know he said that OUT LOUD


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:09 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 7m
Jury isn't taking any notes still #jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 8m
Nurmi- Do you think TA loved Jodi?
DeMarte- Early on yes I think he did #jodiarias #3tvarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 8m
DeMarte: "I think he liked other aspects of her. Sex, yes, and other aspects of her." She thinks Alexander loved #jodiarias earlier.


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 8m
Nurmi- Why did he like having sex with her?
DeMarte- Because he liked having sex with her and other aspects about her #jodiarias #3tvarias


Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10  · 8m
DeMarte: Travis Alexander liked "aspects" of #jodiarias.
Defense atty: "He used her for sex, right?"
DeMarte: "No."


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 8m  
DeMarte- TA had strong emotions in 2 different areas. He liked her company and things about her but he didn't like her intrusive behaviors


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 8m  
Nurmi: Why was he still having sex with her? DeMarte I think he enjoyed having sex with her. #jodiarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 7m  
Nurmi says actions speak louder than words #jodiarias #3tvarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 8m  
Now DeMarte says that shows Alexander's ambivalence for #jodiarias. "I think those two experiences co-existed."


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 8m
Nurmi: Alexander telling women that #jodiarias is stalking him and she wants her gone, then calls her for phone sex and invites for real sex

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:11 pm

https://twitter.coJen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

TA says he's been with flat as a board girls and he's fine with itm/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

(Guess JA did not get the office memo that day!)
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:11 pm

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 · 9m
It's sex all the time for #jodiarias defense team. Theme: Travis took advantage of her Borderline Personality Disorder for sex w/Arias.


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 · 9m
Nurmi asks if TA used #JodiArias 4 sex. He asks this a lot in a lot of different ways. De doesn't believe so. She thinks TA saw a lot in JA.

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:13 pm

Mare ‏@StareDecisis1 1m1 minute ago

@TrialDiariesJ I questions the authenticity of any emails since #jodiarias had access to his accounts.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Vickie Young ‏@TO10000DaysOL 4m4 minutes ago

Bikini shot?? LOL! And this is what the #insaneclownposse thinks is a lewd/sexual request? I'm at a loss.


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 4m4 minutes ago

Texting TA asking boob sizes & for flirty photos
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:13 pm

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 11m11 minutes ago

It's sex all the time for #jodiarias defense team. Theme: Travis took advantage of her Borderline Personality Disorder for sex w/Arias.
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LOL! Well we knew Kurt would talk about all he ever talks about!

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:18 pm

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2  · 2m
De disagrees that TA marketed himself as a virgin. Argues that he just didn't tell people he was having sex. #jodiarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 3m
Nurmi now going through Alexander correspondence with #jodiarias and others. Right now, the assertion that he was a 30-year-old virgin.


Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper  · 5m
Nurmi asking DeMarte about Travis protraying himself as virgin. Her response, "I agree with you he wasn't telling people he was having sex."


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 6m  
Nurmi- TA was portraying himself as a virgin
DeMarte- He wasn't telling people he was having sex #jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 6m  
TA says he's been with flat as a board girls and he's fine with it #jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 6m  
TA wants some bikini shots and a breast size update from some of these women in the text messages #jodiarias #3tvarias


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2  · 9m 
T DOGG had a pattern with women says Nurmi. #JodiArias

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:22 pm

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago

DeMarte claims not to know details of Alexander's sexual relations with other women or that he actually had sex with them.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi says Deanna admitted it in court DeMarte states she didn't watch the testimony


https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi says Deanna admitted it in court DeMarte states she didn't watch the testimony #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi asks DeMarte if Deanna Reid an interview talked about having sexual intercourse with TA DeMarte says she didn't read anything on that
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KINSEY SCHOFIELD ‏@kinseyschofield 6m6 minutes ago

Not as engaged as yesterday. Yesterday was a flood of interesting new material. RT @blefuscu74 @kinseyschofield jury seem bored? #jodiarias
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:24 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

DeMarte doesn't know about most of the women but some she does #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Nurmi wants to know about all these women in Travis's life and is expecting DeMarte to know all about them #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 5m5 minutes ago

DeMarte claims not to know details of Alexander's sexual relations with other women or that he actually had sex with them. #jodiarias
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:24 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 2m  
DeMarte doesn't know about most of the women but some she does #jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries
‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 2m  
Nurmi wants to know about all these women in Travis's life and is expecting DeMarte to know all about them #jodiarias #3tvarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 2m
DeMarte claims not to know details of Alexander's sexual relations with other women or that he actually had sex with them. #jodiarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 2m  
Nurmi says Deanna admitted it in court
DeMarte states she didn't watch the testimony #jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 2m  
Nurmi asks DeMarte if Deanna Reid an interview talked about having sexual intercourse with TA
DeMarte says she didn't read anything on that


Jen's Trial Diaries
‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 3m  
DeMarte doesn't remember this #jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 3m
DeMarte doesn't think TA and Chatanya had sexual relations
Nurmi says well he buried his face in between her legs and took her to nirvana

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:26 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m
Are you aware of the correspondence of JA and TA of who this Michelle was?
DeMarte- No #jodiarias #3tvarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer · 3m
DeMarte did not review full testimony of the other Alexander girlfriends who took the stand. #JodiArias

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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:28 pm

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 23s24 seconds ago

DeMarte repeats that Alexander liked the sex with #jodiarias, but not the intrusive behavior.
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

Are you aware of the correspondence of JA and TA of who this Michelle was? DeMarte- No #jodiarias #3tvarias
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Is stupid ass Nurmi trying to imply T. had a thing w/ Michelle? She had boyfriend---They both knew Travis.
Lol, according to Nurmi, T. had a fling w/ every woman he ever knew!!!

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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:30 pm

who what? ‏@signduptosay 1m1 minute ago

All DeMarte needs to say is that Travis is dead and she can't question him about his sexual history. BOOM.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash

Paty Nando ‏@Patynando 2m2 minutes ago

Is not just that MDLR is tweeting from court right now!..Is that she's tweeting from the #jodiannarias account!! #Jodiarias #AnotherLOSER :)

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

In text TA talks to Michelle about an invasion of his privacy but Nurmi says TA was having sex with JA at this time
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Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m2 minutes ago

Nurmi asks De if it's fair for TA to complain about #JodiArias invading his privacy while they're sleeping together
. Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #27 - Page 18 836886

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash



Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

We are in recess until Monday 9:30am MST
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:32 pm

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 52s  
We are in recess until Monday 9:30am MST #jodiarias #3tvarias


Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2  · 59s  
Nurmi asks De if it's fair for TA to complain about #JodiArias invading his privacy while they're sleeping together.


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 1m  
...but he didn't like her behaviors of invading his privacy, spying on him, breaking into his social media accounts and emails #jodiarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 1m 
DeMarte said he liked having sex with her...continued....#jodiarias #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ  · 1m 
In text TA talks to Michelle about an invasion of his privacy but Nurmi says TA was having sex with JA at this time #jodiarias #3tvarias


Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer  · 1m
DeMarte repeats that Alexander liked the sex with #jodiarias, but not the intrusive behavior.

https://twitter.com/hardtruth4real/lists/jodi-arias-trial-live
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:35 pm

dancing This is so torturous. I feel like I am being punished whenever Nurmi/Wilmart take to the floor. Do they feel despised at all? Will they stay as a team for other cases? God help the jurors...
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Post by Freckles Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:44 pm

Those fake letters never introduced into court....
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Post by Mylife101 Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:47 pm

I doubt that Nurmi and Willmot will ever work together again unless they absolutely have to.  IMO, they don't like each other very much at all. Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #27 - Page 18 162586
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Post by 18thcenturylady Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:37 am

Freckles wrote:Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 2m2 minutes ago

Nurmi asks De if it's fair for TA to complain about #JodiArias invading his privacy while they're sleeping together
. Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #27 - Page 18 836886

https://twitter.com/hashtag/jodiarias?f=realtime&src=hash



Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

We are in recess until Monday 9:30am MST

SERIOUSLY???!!! I read that yesterday on hardtruth while following trial and couldn't believe it, LOL!
I think Nurmi/Wilmott/Arias are very desperate. I don't know about all of you, but I didn't hear anything said by Nurmi yesterday that could discredit Dr. D. OR help their ridiculous case, did you?
What is your opinion?
It seems like the Dr. firmly stuck to her answers given when she testified w/Juan. Seems like she gave short ones, which is great, as Juan can clarify anything in re-direct.
I think def. came across as grasping at straws yesterday, and IMO, the BIGGEST mistake is that Jodi is appearing less and less remorseful than even before, and is torpedoing her own mitigation.

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Post by Weeziethm Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:39 am

The Jodi Arias Death Penalty Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective

by The 13th Juror MD

DAY 33

THE MENOCIDE OF DR. DEATH

https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/899580183420715
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Post by 18thcenturylady Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:31 pm

Weeziethm wrote:The Jodi Arias Death Penalty Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective

by The 13th Juror MD

DAY 33

THE MENOCIDE OF DR. DEATH

https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/899580183420715


So great...This is certainly what I saw yesterday. I hope this jury will be a lot smarter than the first one and return a verdict of death for Jodi. I hope that the last couple of days have made the Alexander family feel a little better...I think that Dr. D. and Juan were able to get a lot of things out there that were not allowed during the first penalty phase and if nothing else, just having the mountains of evidence come out from every former boyfriend, family members, friends of Travis' etc., that left no doubt as to just how evil Jodi Arias is must have been satisfying and comforting to all who have been following the trial. Travis could see a little of that evil near the end, as he mentioned in his final fateful email, but sadly, he couldn't imagine jealousy and hatred that was so overwhelming that his life was in danger.

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Post by Weeziethm Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:20 pm

Another summary of yesterday's court day.....

WARNING....the blog has a big ol' photo of JA trying on a flirty look for someone No  barf

http://tamaratattles.com/2015/02/05/jodi-arias-trial-thursday-2515/
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:30 pm

Day 35 of Jodi Arias trial: Defense cross-examines state's key witness

Posted: Feb 05, 2015 9:08 PM CST
Updated: Feb 05, 2015 9:50 PM CST

Posted by Phil Benson


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Kirk Nurmi cross-examines psychologist Janine DeMarte. (Source: CBS 5 News)

PHOENIX (CBS5) - Thursday was a crucial day for Jodi Arias's defense as they try to convince a jury that the convicted killer deserves a life sentence and not the death penalty for killing her former lover nearly seven years ago.  

Day 35 of the sentencing retrial of Arias got underway at 10 a.m. in Maricopa County Superior Court before Judge Sherry Stephens.

Attorney Kirk Nurmi cross-examined the state's key witness, psychologist Janine DeMarte.  

DeMarte admitted Arias suffers from a mental illness. The testimony comes just two days after the same doctor refuted claims that Arias was a victim.

"It's good for the defense because maybe they can get one person on the jury that thinks 'I don't know if I can give somebody with mental illness the death penalty.' So that puts something in the jurors minds to think about," said Jen Wood of Jen's trial diaries.

Several court watchers said the defense scored major points but it won't be known if it's enough until the sentence is handed down.

Read more:

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/28039575/day-35-of-jodi-arias-trial-defense-cross-examines-states-key-witness
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Post by justanopinion Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:50 pm

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Day 35 of Jodi Arias trial: Defense cross-examines state's key witness

Posted: Feb 05, 2015 9:08 PM CST
Updated: Feb 05, 2015 9:50 PM CST

Posted by Phil Benson


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Kirk Nurmi cross-examines psychologist Janine DeMarte. (Source: CBS 5 News)

PHOENIX (CBS5) - Thursday was a crucial day for Jodi Arias's defense as they try to convince a jury that the convicted killer deserves a life sentence and not the death penalty for killing her former lover nearly seven years ago.  

Day 35 of the sentencing retrial of Arias got underway at 10 a.m. in Maricopa County Superior Court before Judge Sherry Stephens.

Attorney Kirk Nurmi cross-examined the state's key witness, psychologist Janine DeMarte.  

DeMarte admitted Arias suffers from a mental illness. The testimony comes just two days after the same doctor refuted claims that Arias was a victim.

"It's good for the defense because maybe they can get one person on the jury that thinks 'I don't know if I can give somebody with mental illness the death penalty.' So that puts something in the jurors minds to think about," said Jen Wood of Jen's trial diaries.

Several court watchers said the defense scored major points but it won't be known if it's enough until the sentence is handed down.

Read more:

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/28039575/day-35-of-jodi-arias-trial-defense-cross-examines-states-key-witness


I find the highlighted text to be interesting in nature.. it could be argued that "Mental Illness" is a mitigating factor although the reality most certainly must be that sane people do not commit horrendous acts of brutality and murder. It would seem to me that mitigation should be if there is enough redeeming factors to spare the life of an individual … I honestly cannot say having witnessed the first trial that I can find any trait or reason that Jodi should be spared. She manipulated the courts and the media. She has shown no real remorse.. her interviews where she made very scripted remarks about her regrets were not sincere. She enjoyed every moment of her infamy and took pleasure in thinking she had "put one over" on everyone. She is even sicker than people would want to believe. She is an Amorous narcissist and that in my opinion does not redeem her. but that is only my opinion.
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Post by Weeziethm Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:20 pm

Jodi, Joran and Casey: On the Psychology of Evil

How are the Jodi Arias, Casey Anthony and Joran van der Sloot cases similar?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evil-deeds/201305/jodi-joran-and-casey-the-psychology-evil
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Post by Freckles Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:14 pm

Weez has me looking up articles... :)

 ".....The same goes for emotional clarity. If you find it difficult to be aware of, understand, and describe what you are feeling then by definition, you are going to be less accurate and reliable in estimating how you excel at this skill. This is why studies that use self-report questionnaires to assess intelligence, emotional intelligence, and in this study, emotional clarity may be problematic. Its worth asking whether what you are interested in is being measured in the way it should be measured. Would you be confident police officers can give accurate answers to a questionnaire of whether they show biases in treating all citizens equally, regardless of race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation?..."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/curious/201402/5-psychological-studies-require-second-look
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Post by CuriousPortlander Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:48 pm

Weeziethm wrote:The Jodi Arias Death Penalty Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective

by The 13th Juror MD

DAY 33

THE MENOCIDE OF DR. DEATH

https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/899580183420715

Awesome article. This guy nails it every day.

Thanks!

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Post by Freckles Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:41 pm

Dr. K. Randle:

"....

Sane people are capable of horrendous acts of evil. People with
antisocial personalities,  kill their victims and go on with their day
as though nothing ever happened. That is precisely what Jodi Arias did.
She killed Travis and then spent the next day with Ryan Burns, kindling
the flames of a budding new romance. Even her own mother wondered how
Jodi could kill Travis and simply return to business as usual.


Jodi’s barbaric actions might be “crazy” by society’s standards, but she is quite sane....."


http://kristinarandle.com/blog/the-jodi-arias-trial-jodi-insanity-and-the-death-penalty/


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Post by Freckles Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:52 pm

"....Maria Cristina Santana, JD
June 6, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Log in to Reply
A string of appellate court cases from Arizona have already held that personality disorders are not mental illness for mitigation in DP cases. Much less to avoid execution.
Jodi can try to fake a sudden bought of incompetence and psychosis but it didn’t even work for David Brian Mitchell in the Elizabeth Smart case despite singing hymns, pronouncing curses and prophesy in court....."

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/the-jodi-arias-trial-jodi-insanity-and-the-death-penalty/
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Post by Freckles Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:58 pm

From her journals: Transcribed at K. Randle

"...Moving has certainly helped me morally. I don’t know if it has him or if he’s found a replacement booty-call....."

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-journal-entries-2/


Notice how she refers to herself as a booty-call.
She does not sound sad or down or call herself an ex-...
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Post by Freckles Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:15 pm

The real relationship between Travis and Jodi:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-the-true-nature-of-the-relationship-between-jodi-and-travis/



Confessions of a Sociopath (and the use of the Mormon faith):

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201305/confessions-sociopath
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Post by FireandBlood Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:40 am

I noted this before but after reading the highlights of Nurmi's back 'n' forth blabber with the beautiful and delightful Dr. DeMarte, I really think he's intentionally screwing over his client. Hurting more than helping there, KN. I also don't agree with "mental illness" being applied as a mitigating factor for Jodi. Especially when the two that are being presented are mental illnesses in which people KNOW the difference between right and wrong, fer cryin' out loud. BPD and PTSD can also be treated, coped with and properly managed - it's much like diabetes of the mind. Now if she had schizophrenia, I'd find that to be an applicable mitigating factor since the symptoms of schizophrenia DO distort reality in very distressing ways (for them, especially) and it's a chore to encourage a schizophrenic (especially ones with paranoia) to take their medication.
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Post by 18thcenturylady Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:26 am

justanopinion wrote:
Alessandra_Deux wrote:Day 35 of Jodi Arias trial: Defense cross-examines state's key witness

Posted: Feb 05, 2015 9:08 PM CST
Updated: Feb 05, 2015 9:50 PM CST

Posted by Phil Benson


Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #27 - Page 18 28039575_BG1
Kirk Nurmi cross-examines psychologist Janine DeMarte. (Source: CBS 5 News)

PHOENIX (CBS5) - Thursday was a crucial day for Jodi Arias's defense as they try to convince a jury that the convicted killer deserves a life sentence and not the death penalty for killing her former lover nearly seven years ago.  

Day 35 of the sentencing retrial of Arias got underway at 10 a.m. in Maricopa County Superior Court before Judge Sherry Stephens.

Attorney Kirk Nurmi cross-examined the state's key witness, psychologist Janine DeMarte.  

DeMarte admitted Arias suffers from a mental illness. The testimony comes just two days after the same doctor refuted claims that Arias was a victim.

"It's good for the defense because maybe they can get one person on the jury that thinks 'I don't know if I can give somebody with mental illness the death penalty.' So that puts something in the jurors minds to think about," said Jen Wood of Jen's trial diaries.

Several court watchers said the defense scored major points but it won't be known if it's enough until the sentence is handed down.

Read more:

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/28039575/day-35-of-jodi-arias-trial-defense-cross-examines-states-key-witness


I find the highlighted text to be interesting in nature.. it could be argued that "Mental Illness" is a mitigating factor although the reality most certainly must be that sane people do not commit horrendous acts of brutality and murder. It would seem to me that mitigation should be if there is enough redeeming factors to spare the life of an individual … I honestly cannot say having witnessed the first trial that I can find any trait or reason that Jodi should be spared. She manipulated the courts and the media. She has shown no real remorse.. her interviews where she made very scripted remarks about her regrets were not sincere. She enjoyed every moment of her infamy and took pleasure in thinking she had "put one over" on everyone. She is even sicker than people would want to believe. She is an Amorous narcissist and that in my opinion does not redeem her. but that is only my opinion.


The person who wrote this initial article above is misinformed, and this is NOT "good for the defense". The only mitigating factor allowed in a DP case with regard mental illness is perhaps someone who killed on the spur of the moment for example. WHEN SOMEONE CALCULATEDLY OVER TIME PRE MEDITATES AND METICULOUSLY PLANS TO KILL SOMEONE, AND CARRIES OUT THE PLAN IN MINUTE DETAIL THE COURT CONSIDERS THE PERSON DOES NOT FIT THE LEGAL STANDARD OF "MENTAL ILLNESS". Of course everyone who kills someone is "mentally ill" in some capacity, and so the law has strict criteria as to what can be a mitigating factor with regard to mental illness.
I BELIEVE THE JURY WILL BE SO INSTRUCTED BEFORE THEY START TO DELIBERATE.

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Post by Alessandra_Deux Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:08 pm

Azcourts.gov
Arizona Judicial Branch


MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES

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Relevant Mitigation:  The U.S. Supreme Court has made plain that a sentencing jury may not be precluded from considering “any relevant, mitigating evidence.”  Buchanan v. Angelone, 522 U.S. 269, 276 (1998) (citing to Penry v. Lynaugh, Eddings v. Oklahoma, and Lockett v. Ohio).  In Tennard v. Dretke, the Court reiterated that relevance in the context of capital mitigation is a “low threshold” and that such evidence is that “‘which tends logically to prove or disprove some fact or circumstance which a fact-finder could reasonably deem to have mitigating value.’” 542 U.S. 274, 284 (2004) (quoting State v. McCoy, 372 S.E.2d 12, 45 (N.C. 1988) (dissent)).  A court should consider “whether the evidence is of such a character that it ‘might serve “as a basis for a sentence less than death.”’” Id. at 2571 (quoting Skipper v. South Carolina, 476 U.S. 1, 5 (1986)).  While not specifically defined, the Court has indicated that matters bearing on a defendant’s “character” or “record,” or concerning the “circumstances of the offense” are relevant and cannot be taken out the realm of sentencing consideration.  Lockett v. Ohio, 438 U.S. 586, 604 (1978); accord Johnson v. Texas, 509 U.S. 350, 362 (1993).  An example recently given by the Court of irrelevant evidence is the frequency with which a defendant showers in jail, while records showing his good behavior in jail would be relevant.  Tennard, 542 U.S. at 286.  The evidence need not be causally connected to the crime, itself, to be admissible.  Id. at 284-86.

But while there are “virtually no limits [] placed on the relevant mitigating evidence a capital defendant may introduce concerning his own circumstances,” Tennard, 542 U.S. at 285 (quoting Eddings. v. Oklahoma, 455 U.S. 104, 114 (1982)), this is not to say that the State cannot place parameters on the jury’s consideration of mitigation.  The Supreme Court has never held that “jury consideration of mitigating evidence must be undirected or unfocused,” Franklin v. Lynaugh, 487 U.S. 164, 181 (1988), or that the State has no role in “structuring or giving shape to the jury’s consideration of [] mitigating factors.”  487 U.S. at 179; accord Boyde v. California, 494 U.S. 370, 376 (1990) (The State may require the jury to impose death if it finds that the aggravators outweigh the mitigation).   Thus, in Boyde the Court approved a state trial court’s use of a list of factors for the jury’s consideration, including aggravating and mitigating circumstances along with a “catch-all” mitigating circumstance, and in Buchanan v. Angelone, supra, it approved the court’s decision to not enumerate mitigating factors, but rather charge the jury with imposing a sentence based upon “all the evidence.”

Instructions:  There is no federal constitutional obligation to instruct the jury on how to consider mitigating evidence in light of aggravating evidence, or whether the jury should consider particular mitigating factors.  Thus, for example, it is permissible to tell the jury to make its sentencing decision based upon “all the evidence,” without further instruction.  Buchanan, 522 U.S. at 275-77.   However, post-Ring, Arizona trial courts have uniformly provided both a weighing instruction and a list of the defense’s proposed mitigating circumstances in their jury instructions, including a “catchall” instruction allowing for the consideration any other factor that the jury deems mitigating.  See A.R.S. § 13-751(E) & (G).

In assessing a proposed instruction, the trial court should ask, “whether there is a reasonable likelihood that the jury [will] appl[y]] the [] instruction in a way that prevents the consideration of constitutionally relevant evidence.” Boyde, 494 U.S. at 380.  The court need not consider how a “single hypothetical ‘reasonable’ juror could or might [] interpret[] the instruction,” since jurors “do not sit in solitary isolation booths parsing instructions for subtle shades of meaning in the same way that lawyers might.  Differences among them in interpretation of instructions may be thrashed out in the deliberative process, with commonsense understanding of the instructions in the light of all that has taken place at the trial likely to prevail over technical hairsplitting.”  494 U.S. at 380-81.

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http://www.azcourts.gov/ccsguide/MitigatingCircumstances.aspx
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:31 pm

I have never witnessed, or followed, a trial like the Jodi Arias trial. It is totally "out of the ordinary" to say the least.

The job of the defense lawyers in a capital murder case during the sentencing trial is to convince the jury to spare the life of their client. It looks like the  law allows the defense a lot of latitude during the sentencing phase of a capital murder case when it comes to mitigating circumstances.

I particularly don't care if Jodi Arias is sentenced to life in prison, or if she gets the death penalty. She has already been found guilty of first degree murder, and it is very likely that she will spend the rest of her life in jail either way.

If this jury vote for the death penalty, it will take at least 20 years for her to be put to death, appeals can be lengthy and they can take a numbers of years.

There is also the possibility that after many years in prison and continuous appeals a sentence to death can be commuted to life imprisonment.

Who knows what is going to happen, juries can be unpredictable, this is perhaps part of the public’s fascination with the law and the judicial process.


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Post by Freckles Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:29 pm

Court filing: Feb 6

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/022015/m6685995.pdf
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Post by Freckles Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:31 pm

This is one of the BEST articles I have read.
Great presentation and summary.
Many links to the different witnesses and support vids to points being made.
Grab this and keep it at hand!


http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skhlanhttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skhlan
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Post by Alessandra_Deux Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:03 pm

Prosecution psychologist paints Arias as stalker

Michael Kiefer, The Republic | azcentral.com 2:33 p.m. MST February 6, 2015

The Jodi Arias sentencing retrial slogged slowly onward through Maricopa County Superior Court this week as prosecutor Juan Martinez put his star witness on the stand to delve into the state's theory of Arias' pathology.

Janeen DeMarte is a psychologist who charmed trial watchers during Arias' first trial with her well-spoken and assured manner. Martinez put her on the stand again Tuesday and Wednesday to refute the defense claims that Arias suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, and to discredit the defense psychologists who said that Arias suffered sexual, physical and emotional abuse at the hands of the man she killed, Travis Alexander.

Read more:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2015/02/06/prosecution-psychologist-paints-jodi-arias-stalker/22997965/
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Post by 18thcenturylady Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:51 am

Freckles wrote:This is one of the BEST articles I have read.
Great presentation and summary.
Many links to the different witnesses and support vids to points being made.
Grab this and keep it at hand!


http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skhlanhttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skhlan

When you click on this link it says the page does not exist...Can you perhaps find it again for us?
Thanks so much!

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