Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:03 pm
Melissa Waller, online supporter of Ryan that testified this morning. From the blog, she came across as very credible and stable. She said the Dateline episode touched her due to her sister-in-law's death. She said her sister in law died suddenly after her wedding. Her brother found her, it was emotionally devastating to him. She talked to Ryan on the phone the same night (and sounded like around the same time) that Jennifer Crew said Ryan gave her a drunken confession. Melissa testified Ryan wasn't drunk or upset.
Dr. Chandler Phillips, biomedical engineering professor, Wright State University
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Another witness who testified Friday morning is Dr. Chandler Phillips. Phillips is an biomechanical engineer who has previously examined the bathroom where Sarah Widmer died and testified that there was no way Ryan Widmer could have forcibly drowned his wife within the space available.
Phillips said during the second trial that the injuries on Sarah Widmer did not match injuries that should have occurred in such a small space, like broken fingernails or injuries to her feet.
He repeated much of that testimony Friday, including the statement that "Ryan Widmer did not forcibly drown Sarah Widmer."
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:18 pm
Below is what has always stood out in my mind in this case, the natural reaction to fight for your life:
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The defense rested its case after the jury heard several hours of testimony from human factor engineer and medical doctor Dr. Chandler Phillips.
Phillips said he has studied beer kegs falling on people, frisbees hitting heads, basic accidents and injuries. He has testified in 24 cases, he said.
Phillips testified in the 2010 Widmer trial that ended with a deadlocked jury.
“Ryan Widmer did not forcibly drown Sarah Widmer,” he said. “Based on the human environment, I would have expected to see more injury on her and injury to Ryan if a struggle ensued.”
Phillips, who specializes in Human Factors Engineering, said defensive injuries should have shown on Sarah Widmer’s manicured hands, feet, knees, toes and other parts of her body, had her husband tried to drown her in the bathtub.
Using a plethora of information from the first trial and “anthropometry,” the measurements of both Sarah and Ryan Widmers’ bodies and the dimensions of the bathroom.
Phillips testified that had Widmer forced his wife’s head in the tub, there would have been injuries to her feet because they would have been jammed up against the vanity.
Had Widmer attacked her from the front and strangled her, she would have gouged his eyes, he said, and had he used a stranglehold from the rear, her French manicured nails would have gouged his forearms, he said.
No defensive wounds were found on either Widmer.
Phillips said there is a chemical reaction in humans, called “sympathetic alarm reaction,” that would have kicked in once Sarah Widmer knew she was under attack. It gives people strength beyond the norm, he said.
“It’s a fight-or-flight response,” he said. “There is massive purpose that greatly enhances muscular activity way beyond what you can normally do. The threat in this case, flight, is not an option, so fight is all that’s left.”
Widmer stood a full foot taller than his wife and weighed 50 pounds or more, but Phillips said she still would have done some damage to him during an attack.
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/widmer-jury-will-begin-deliberations-on-monday-1078743.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
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The defense rested its case after the jury heard several hours of testimony from human factor engineer and medical doctor Dr. Chandler Phillips.
Phillips said he has studied beer kegs falling on people, frisbees hitting heads, basic accidents and injuries. He has testified in 24 cases, he said.
Phillips testified in the 2010 Widmer trial that ended with a deadlocked jury.
“Ryan Widmer did not forcibly drown Sarah Widmer,” he said. “Based on the human environment, I would have expected to see more injury on her and injury to Ryan if a struggle ensued.”
Phillips, who specializes in Human Factors Engineering, said defensive injuries should have shown on Sarah Widmer’s manicured hands, feet, knees, toes and other parts of her body, had her husband tried to drown her in the bathtub.
Using a plethora of information from the first trial and “anthropometry,” the measurements of both Sarah and Ryan Widmers’ bodies and the dimensions of the bathroom.
Phillips testified that had Widmer forced his wife’s head in the tub, there would have been injuries to her feet because they would have been jammed up against the vanity.
Had Widmer attacked her from the front and strangled her, she would have gouged his eyes, he said, and had he used a stranglehold from the rear, her French manicured nails would have gouged his forearms, he said.
No defensive wounds were found on either Widmer.
Phillips said there is a chemical reaction in humans, called “sympathetic alarm reaction,” that would have kicked in once Sarah Widmer knew she was under attack. It gives people strength beyond the norm, he said.
“It’s a fight-or-flight response,” he said. “There is massive purpose that greatly enhances muscular activity way beyond what you can normally do. The threat in this case, flight, is not an option, so fight is all that’s left.”
Widmer stood a full foot taller than his wife and weighed 50 pounds or more, but Phillips said she still would have done some damage to him during an attack.
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/widmer-jury-will-begin-deliberations-on-monday-1078743.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by mel Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:14 pm
Piper, My daughter has the same thing!!!! Her back is really hurting too... It is really going around!!! I hope you feel better really soon!!!!
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Ann - Tx Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:58 pm
Piper, I am so sorry you did not get to attend the trial. I know you were really looking forward to it and I was looking forward to your report!
Please get well soon, Piper!
Please get well soon, Piper!
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Sherry Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:25 pm
Piper wrote:Here's the 911 call...
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/audio-ryan-widmers-911-call-667748.html
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