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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:34 pm

Well, just in time for me to serve dinner. see ya later folks
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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:35 pm

we all called it right......can we pick em or what. I am happy for the whole family
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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:36 pm

I agree Tess. I am so happy too!


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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:37 pm

we can pick em CB! I am so happy for that whole family for sure!
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Post by Estee Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:33 pm

Thanks for the verdict...So glad he is free to go home to his children..I know he was sweating it out, hoping for the best but expecting the worse.

Maybe we should have wanted CA to be tried in Miami...At least those folk ask questions.
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Post by back2back19 Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:40 pm

I'm glad AK was found not guilty. This case should not have been tried in the first place. Am curious what the jurors have to say. Do they think he did it but didn't think the State proved it's case or do they think heor do they think Lina died of natural causes?

I will say the two prosecutors who gave the closing for the state really turned me off.

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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:50 pm

I am hoping that tomorrow morning on IS that the jury will talk to the press. Can't wait until tomorrow!
Good for Adam. I am thrilled for him.
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:05 pm

I just saw a reporter on fox say that the jurors just walked single file past the reporters and didn't say anything. I don't blame them.

I want to see the reading of the verdict. I only saw the celebration afterwards. I'm sure IS will have that on tomorrow.
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Post by summerthyme Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:06 pm

If I bring lotz of Morning Joe (not that awful guy - but the Starbuckles beans) and blueberry muffin tops (who has time for the messy dry bottoms)...will you tell me what IS is reporting in the morning? Just the general gist...will others be here too?? Hope so....

I went to another site and left doing muffled snickers. They are verah-verah mad and ticked off about the celebration in the courtroom after most left. Was described as family theatrics. Tee-hee!
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:08 pm

Mike Brooks just tweeted that tomorrow on IS they will have a lot of great guests to break down the case. Not sure what that means, could mean Sunny and company, but I don't know. I will be interested in any case.

I am very happy for Adam tonight. I bet he hugs those kids til he is exhausted.
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:11 pm

Summer, I might have been on the same site. I agree, there were some Very upset people. However, those people thought him guilty during opening statements. They really never listened to the evidence or lack thereof. Very often in these trials, I think people are guilty, but in this one, not so much.
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:14 pm

vinnie tweeted adam on is tomorrow
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Post by summerthyme Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:22 pm

great news, Tess. Scratch the plain old muffins and I'll bring lobster rolls instead. Have to leave soon to get up to Wiscassett and be in line by 10am to get them. We're worth it!!
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Post by back2back19 Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:29 pm

What site was unhappy?

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Post by back2back19 Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:45 pm

Michelle Sigona said she spent a long time interviewing people at the courthouse today, after the verdict and one of those she spoke to was the foreman, so we should get some insight.

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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:55 pm

Home now....I can't wait for morning. I will be here! Food or no food! But food is better Very Happy
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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:56 pm

In case anyone is interested...I have been keeping Stark apprised of all the gory details of today. She had PM'd me and ask me to keep her posted while she was traveling. So she is up to speed too.... bounce
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:04 pm

Me too CBAdam Kaufman  Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2  - Page 11 652890
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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:12 pm

lol....we prob blew up her phone!
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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:16 pm

Tess I was wondering what was going on at the other site... I imagine they were ticked off. After reading there I only saw about 3 posters who didn't think AK did it. I'm going to go peek over there now.
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:17 pm

LOL she sure covered her bases. I would too. At least she knows as much as we do at this point. How long is she away for? Do you know?
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:20 pm

b2b check your pm
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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:22 pm

http://www.local10.com/news/Jury-finds-Kaufman-not-guilty-in-wife-s-death/-/1717324/14587260/-/33tg5bz/-/index.html

Video of verdict read
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:30 pm

Thank you so much angieAdam Kaufman  Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2  - Page 11 469533
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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:33 pm

Thank you for the link to watch the verdict. Made me smile.
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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:42 pm

You guys are very welcome Adam Kaufman  Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2  - Page 11 88030
I got a little teary when watching it (but don't tell anyone)
I cannot wait til tomorrow when we get to see all of the interviews of Adam and his family.
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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:49 pm

angiefly2 wrote:You guys are very welcome Adam Kaufman  Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2  - Page 11 88030
I got a little teary when watching it (but don't tell anyone)
I cannot wait til tomorrow when we get to see all of the interviews of Adam and his family.

Ya old softie!
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Post by back2back19 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:49 pm

Did that clip show how the judge reacted? What did she say? I would imagine she was quite ticked.

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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:49 pm

b2b it didn't. I would loved to have seen her face. Bet she was pissed!
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:50 pm

Didn't show the judge. You could hear her after the verdict and she sounded fine. Thanking jurors etc.
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Post by back2back19 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:52 pm

Thank you! I hope IS shows us the whole thing 'cause I would imagine her reaction would be gold. She's given so much already. She probablt flicked her hair.

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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:26 pm

Chickenbutt wrote:
angiefly2 wrote:You guys are very welcome Adam Kaufman  Murder Trial (murder of Eleonora Kaufman - 11/7/07 - Aventura, FL) #2  - Page 11 88030
I got a little teary when watching it (but don't tell anyone)
I cannot wait til tomorrow when we get to see all of the interviews of Adam and his family.

Ya old softie!

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Post by tesstruhart Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:32 pm

Well, I'm off to bed...need to be up and at em early...babysitting day tomorrow. I'll have my laptop and their TV. Takes me longer these days to get beautiful, unlike our so pretty judge. Keep hearing the song "I'm so pretty" in my head. Good night all.
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Post by summerthyme Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:35 pm

Nitey-nite Tess!
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Post by back2back19 Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:35 pm

'Night Tess!

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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:49 pm

nite Tess Sweet dreams
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Post by Weeziethm Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:05 pm

Hi everyone. Just getting back on and thanks to all for their updates and commentary.

For full disclosure, I haven't listened to more than about 80% of the testimony even though I was very interested in this trial. I only have about 6-7 trial watchings under my belt; and fully agree that everything - from first responders to the judge - were sadly lacking in professionalism, duty and responsibility. I also adhere to the mantra that it is better to set 10 guilty men free than send one innocent man to a wrong fate.

I believe the jury took its time and job seriously. And I cannot quible. However, my opinion is that by some action - or inaction - Adam may have/did contribute to the death of his wife... I cannot get past the unexplained deep neck muscle damage.

Legally I accept their verdict. Personally, I do not believe in his complete innocence.

Something happened...Lina is dead. 33 y/o healthly mother.

I don't know. I just don't know.

I thought it was just given the circumstances.

Thank you for listening.

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Post by Chickenbutt Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:12 pm

Weezie, your opinion is always welcome here no matter how diverse it is. We are all adults and can certianly accept others opinions even if we disagree with that opinion. You are safe here to speak your mind amongst us (at least me). If we all agreed, how boring would that be.
I believe that Adam was completely innocent. I worried about the "deep muscle" injuries until I heard Dr. M explain that "deep muscles" are 2 inches into your neck. He said from skin to spine is about 2 inches. That made me rest easy about the injuries. I don't think it was as "deep" as we all imagined.
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Post by summerthyme Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:26 pm

Nite-nite Weezie. The nice peeps in this group will help you balance your head and heart scale tomorrow, and calibrate it just right.
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Post by angiefly2 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:54 pm

Weezie,
I am glad you shared your opinion, I really enjoy hearing "the other side of the coin" so to speak. For me, I feel like Adam is innocent but sometimes my mind did wander and I would think maybe "this or that" happened and he did something to cause it. But then I would hear something during the trial and I would be back to Adam being innocent or at the least not guilty (which we all know doesn't always mean innocent) Truth is the whole story is never told in court for a plethora of reasons, one being, the courts aren't always allowed to allow certain evidence in, and another is that the state screwed this case from the start. So we may never know the whole truth. I can honestly say though, IMO, the jury did the right thing today and justice was served. Hope this made sense lol.
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Post by One Wonders Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:16 am

I knew I'd miss the verdict today (had my first mani and pedi ever) da-gone-it.
Just wanted to say congradulations to all who knew how this case would turn out.
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 am

angiefly2 wrote:http://www.local10.com/news/Jury-finds-Kaufman-not-guilty-in-wife-s-death/-/1717324/14587260/-/33tg5bz/-/index.html

Video of verdict read

angiefly2, I am just getting in, long day, had a a new cap put on a front tooth, it sucked! BUT! I just knew there would be a verdict by the time I could get on the computer this evening.

Although I thought a Not Guilty verdict was appropriate, you can never tell w/a Fla. jury.

I thought Adam's response was funny, he said: "There have been a lot of sidebars in this trial. Right now, I'm going to a real bar." I thought the 2 defense attorney's & Adam were going to cry, they were humbled it appeared.

This case had countless errors, imo, the State needs to take a good look at the mistakes made at the crime scene, the problems Dr. Hymi created by, imo, just being a lazy public servant,his testimony lacked any passion or real concern imo, I bet he really smarted for Adam reporting him for his bullchit excuses for the determination taking so long, if Lina's family hadn't been persistant, how many more months would it have taken? imo, Dr. Hymi needs to be reminded he works for the taxpayer's, they pay him handsomely, his arrogance imo, was embarassing.

Detective Howell, lied, but to add insult to injury, her exit from the Court Room just showed yet again, she isn't a professional, but someone that had to admit to an affair, ALL HER own doing, & the over sight of gathering evidence, too, was her fault. It's amazing to me, that at the time Lina died, Howell was a CSI Tech, how in the hell did she get promoted to Detective?

imo, the State reminding the jury, YET AGAIN, that they didn't call Detective An. because we would again hear about the salious details of the affair.

SHOUT OUT TO THE STATE: Detective An. owed the jury an EXPLANATION for the inept/shoddy job he supervised, happened AFTER the affair, this put the State's case in jeopardy. imo, the State must have thought the jury was just stupid, the half ass crime scene investigatiion was inexcusable. Surely the State understands this, well, I hope.

I don't know if Adam murdered Lina, but I am glad that a jury HELD THE STATE ACCOUNTABLE to proving their case, something they couldn't do, they couldn't even prove their alleged MOTIVE.

The State failed Lina, imo, at every single turn.







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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:41 am

Some links on the Verdict:

Executive acquitted in wife's death!
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/05/2834484/executive-acquitted-in-wifes-death.html
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After the verdict, Kaufman’s family members cried and fell into each others’ arms in relief. Adam Kaufman and his twin brother posed for a picture with the verdict form.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/05/not-guilty-verdict-for-aventura-developer-accused-in-wifes-death/
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The 12-member jury began its deliberations around 10 a.m. after hearing the prosecution's closing rebuttal argument. During that presentation by prosecutor Matt Baldwin, a dramatic scene occurred.

Baldwin was trying to lessen the importance of a key moment in the trial: the testimony of the victim's mother, Frida Aizman, on behalf of Adam Kaufman. Baldwin asserted that Aizman only supported her son-in-law so she could continue to see her grandchildren. Aizman, who was sitting in court, blurted out, "Are you accusing me of lying?"

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Jury-Deliberates-In-Aventura-Murder-Case-157238665.html

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Post by ellejay Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:06 am

--thank you all so much for the incredible "play-by-play" throughout the trial...i missed most of it "live" so did appreciate the commentary here at RC from those watching!

--not guilty.

--not shocked.
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Post by sheila-tn Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:11 am

Verdict:
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Post by back2back19 Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:06 am

According to Michelle Sigona, the jury foreman said the jury didn't just find him not guilty... they believe he is innocent. Looking forward to the IS coverage today.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:22 am

Shelia - Tn, good to see you, did you watch the trial & if so, do you have any thoughts?

b2b19, I am very curious to hear from the jury/foreman, I too am looking forward to the analysis of the case on In Session too.

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Post by back2back19 Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:04 am

IS is showing the verdict reading right now!

LMAO The prosecutors reaction was hilarious. They looked so pissed and the dude who gave the first closing was thrumming his fingers on the table.

And I don't see anything wrong with that family's reaction! The hug between the brothers was so sweet. Almost made me cry.


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