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Post by justanopinion Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:55 pm

what happened we are back at the plaque ... thought they had some video did the judge dismiss again?
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:56 pm

Mylife101 wrote:Clipped:great but I really think maybe hubby should have used the other end of the baboon!!

No doubt! The other end of the baboon is quite colorful.

On a side note...hope Dr. Doofus stocked up on KY...his career is gonna need some. Very Happy
Are you suggesting the little guy just might bend him over... the desk? Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:57 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:Courtesy of 18thcenturylady and her 18thcenturygentleman!

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"The latest defense witness takes his lunch break"


AwesomeSauce!
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:01 pm

I heard someone vomited in the court room
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:03 pm

Yup, someone vomited in the court room.

Wonder if it was a family member? or a drunkard from the Yreka Mobile Homeowners Association?
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:05 pm

Okay, yeah - court is canceled for the day.


No more Ducky Dick til Monday.

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Post by justanopinion Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:05 pm

maybe someone slipped Jodi a "good" pill... crystal ball
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:06 pm

OK. Court is cancelled for today.
Someone in the gallery, Arias side, barfed.
Court stinks and was evacuated.

TRIAL TOMORROW AT 10:30AM!!!!
Apparently they just announced it!! YEA!
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:07 pm

Wait, someone is saying there will be court tomorrow?


Really with all the Fridays off and court not starting til 10:30 most days and ending at 4:30....with an hour and a half for lunch...this case is about 5 to 6 weeks in its entirety.

But it will take 3 mos before we see a verdict!
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:08 pm

Freckles are you here in So Cal?

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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:11 pm

Catching up.
Sneaky JA:
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/19/why-did-jodi-slip-folder-under-her-behind
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Post by justanopinion Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:11 pm

I thought they had announced that there was not going to be court on Thursday... now there is court on Thursday??

Colour me confused!
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:11 pm

Mari 68 wrote:Freckles are you here in So Cal?

No. Used to be. For years! lol Highland near Sterling...
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Post by Mari 68 Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:13 pm

Freckles wrote:
Mari 68 wrote:Freckles are you here in So Cal?

No. Used to be. For years! lol Highland near Sterling...


aaahhh okay Born and raised here myself. Lived at beach most of my life - but moved inland in 2011 to be closer to office and grand-daughter.

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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:17 pm

General questions re the trial and questions there:
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/20/jodi-arias-treated-ptsd-travis-alexander
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:19 pm

Excellent notes at the bottom of page:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03/20/live-blog-does-arias-fate-lie-experts-hands
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Post by hello clarice Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:23 pm

Before arias slides the binder/folder under her ass it looks as though she slips something inside first. Piece of evidence whacko doco lost? envelope (?) 'pill' was in? lovers note ? definitely something smallish and orangy/brown in colour like a manilla envelope. Shocked
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Post by Weeziethm Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:23 pm

Court tomorrow....yippee! Just reported on JVM that the jury box had over 100 questions.

Can. Not. Wait. Cool
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Post by justanopinion Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:23 pm

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03/20/jodi-arias-murder-taxpayers-trial-costs-phoenix-arizona-maricopa-county

this is mind boggling!! could run taxpayers $1 million for her defence?
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Post by hello clarice Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:26 pm

Birth control pill Laughing
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Post by justanopinion Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:26 pm

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/18/jodi-arias-travis-alexander-autopsy-results

another look at a crime scene experts theory!
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Post by THATGIRL Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:35 pm

Jodi germs swirling around..it must really stink a lot, no Windows to open, air out the place, hmmmm nope Jodi would fly out the window!!!! Back to HLN. I so wanted to hear those jury ????'s darn it Sad

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Post by justanopinion Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:36 pm

hello clarice wrote:Birth control pill Laughing


laughing so hard could hardly type... think coffee came out my nose as well!! good one!
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:16 pm

Trouble with this but am sharing:

http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/
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Post by Mylife101 Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:25 pm

Freckles wrote:
Mylife101 wrote:Clipped:great but I really think maybe hubby should have used the other end of the baboon!!

No doubt! The other end of the baboon is quite colorful.

On a side note...hope Dr. Doofus stocked up on KY...his career is gonna need some. Very Happy
Are you suggesting the little guy just might bend him over... the desk? Shocked Shocked Shocked

Crazier things have happened in this trial....so, it is a possibility
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:28 pm

David and Goliath, IMO.
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:37 pm

Dido song:
This rendition is bizarre...
she comes out of a closet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dKZQs1xekY
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:41 pm

Clancy Talbot was the tipsy lady;
the following day, she was confronted by JA in the bathroom; JA would NOT let her out!!
A friend, waiting for Clancy, entered the restroom and that is how Clancy got out.

Clancy said this is all a game of JA's in the court; and, Ja does NOT have low self esteem. This behavior she saw in the bathroom is the TYPICAL JA's response to ANY female around TA.

And TA was like her little brother. He always has been.

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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:52 pm

Clancy:
Had an event.
JA showed up--- UNINVITED.
TA was letting people stay overnight at his home.
She insisted on staying there.
He slept in his office so girls could have his bed.
JA announced in front of @ 30 people she was TA's gf--- and TA had a gf there!
TA denounced her-- told the group he had dated her a few times was all.
Told JA he would see her the next day.
She refused to leave.
On the stand, she said she spent the night on the couch: LIE. She slept under the Christmas tree!

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Post by auman58 Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:52 pm

I find it very disturbing that there are CA/JA's out there that can kill a "loved one" and then go on their merry way as if it were on their "to do" list. Where do these kids come from?
As an aside, anyone who is prone to murderous blackouts should not be allowed to walk the streets......ever again.
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Post by tesstruhart Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:02 pm

auman58 wrote:I find it very disturbing that there are CA/JA's out there that can kill a "loved one" and then go on their merry way as if it were on their "to do" list. Where do these kids come from?
As an aside, anyone who is prone to murderous blackouts should not be allowed to walk the streets......ever again.
Welcome Auman58, I certainly can't disagree with you. I think one of the jury instructions should be...if you're ok with your son dating this woman then you may consider a lesser included than murder 1, if not, its pretty clear.
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:07 pm

Female, middle row, puked in the aisle and then outside in the hall.

Apparently there are more than a hundred jury questions for the witnesses.
http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

Which JA is there?

Apparently JA invited herself on a surfing trip with two guys.

Age 13 JA was accosted with knife to her throat; Ducky said it is not important unless he was doing therapy with her; different tests to support or refute your findings; said TA tied JA up twice with the twine; JA was not uncomfortable with oral sex BUT with the timing of it;

JA handcuffed in investigation room, sits on floor, flings hair back;
commentator stated JA is VERY relaxed and at ease in this video in police custody.

http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:18 pm

http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

JA on HLN :
Behavior Bureau:

JA asked to see the crime scene photos, 77/15/2008;
pill popping-- prisoners are not allowed to keep medication on them;

What was JA's mentality?
Delusional, premeditated, pill-popping--- surprised judge is allowing it after last year's cyanide death;

Manipulation; MCMI goes directly to personality disorder and is NOT given first; designed for someone ALREADY determined to have mental problems; Ducky said he gave it first;


Reviewing Mimi's statements off tire slashing, hacking into things, crawling thru the doggy door; Doctor Drew believes she sucked TA in and used him;

Surfers:Zion and Anthony
JA invited herself on the trip w/ 3 grown men, they changed the trip and went to Mexico=== JA tagged along; JA was not afraid to get into personnel space; JA often showed interest in other men to try to make TA jealous--- but TA did not care; TA DID tell others including church counselors his behavior with her was wrong; TA wanted to be rid of JA especially as she got more bizarre as he tried to pull away; felt JA was looking at the "soul"; Anthony called Zion and said, "That could have been us on the trip to Mexico." JA was a cancer in TA's life.

Which knives from the kitchen may have bee used?


Dr. Loyld: Stab to chest went in 1 1/2 inches; survival is only seconds; vena cava is between 3/4 ribs; strong knife; sharp on one edge and blunt on another; she had all emotional to support herself; BIG knife; had he been shot in head first, lots of bleeding in lining of brain; none found...

Dr. Beasley: Believes TA was shot first then went to the chest; bullet thru face while TA is seated makes sense;

Eiglarsh: Don't have to prove the order just she killed him;



NO KNIVES ARE MISSING FROM KITCHEN.




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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:31 pm

The brother:
Carl Allen Arias
(Allen is the maiden name of the mother)

http://www.whitepages.com/name/carl-...eka-california
http://pub360.com/pub/Arias/Carlton/
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Post by Pianist Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:34 pm

Freckles wrote:Female, middle row, puked in the aisle and then outside in the hall.

Apparently there are more than a hundred jury questions for the witnesses.
http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

Which JA is there?

Apparently JA invited herself on a surfing trip with two guys.

Age 13 JA was accosted with knife to her throat; Ducky said it is not important unless he was doing therapy with her; different tests to support or refute your findings; said TA tied JA up twice with the twine; JA was not uncomfortable with oral sex BUT with the timing of it;

JA handcuffed in investigation room, sits on floor, flings hair back;
commentator stated JA is VERY relaxed and at ease in this video in police custody.

http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

I am surprised this has not happened before. How many of us have wanted to throw up during this unbelievable weeks of testimony. Of course, we would have better aim. Too bad JA was not the recipient. She deserves a little reality. Maybe Dr. S. could clean her up.
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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:40 pm

Welcome to RC, Pianist!
Laughing at your last comment!

I am out of here, folks!
We have court at 10 or 10:30 tomorrow.
Bring your Starbucks to your computer!

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Post by Freckles Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:49 pm

JA in handcuffs sitting on the floor, flipping her hair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XIwuKmsh2KE
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Post by Ms. Gibson Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:13 pm

Newbie here...sorry if I'm in the wrong thread for this, but has anyone else considered, or is their a discussion here somewhere of the possibility that Jodi had an accomplice? thanks.

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Post by Pianist Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:31 pm

Ms. Gibson wrote:Newbie here...sorry if I'm in the wrong thread for this, but has anyone else considered, or is their a discussion here somewhere of the possibility that Jodi had an accomplice? thanks.

I thought about that possibility earlier, but firstly I don't think she would trust anyone enough to include him/her. But more importantly if she did, then is that the person who was going to be the recipient of the gun and knives found in her trunk when she was arrested? This woman could easily kill again.
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Post by Ann - Tx Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:39 pm

tesstruhart wrote:I just told Chris Williams, reporter at the trial. If he chooses to follow up then I guess he will. Just an interesting occurance.

I wrote this comment this morning but did not post it. Had to leave and had this page minimized.

Hi, Tess!

I have not been able to follow the trial recently or be available to be on RC. I am way behind! lol

I briefly scrolled upward and noticed this comment by you and I don't know what this is about. However, if anyone wants to contact Juan Martinez, they can. I just called the Maricopa County Attorney's Office (MCAO) in Phoenix, AZ and inquired how one could contact Juan Martinez re the Jodi Arias trial.

For those not affiliated (involved) with the Jodi Arias trial, they can e-mail Juan Martinez at:

maricopacountyattorney.org or use the form. Here is the Link to the MCAO contact form:

http://www.maricopacountyattorney.org/contact-us.html

Phone number to Maricopa County Attorney's Office:


(602) 506-3411


The lady I spoke to said Juan Martinez reads all e-mails!
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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:56 am

Hi, Ann! Friendly shout out !
Missed you!!!

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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:06 am

Ms. Gibson wrote:Newbie here...sorry if I'm in the wrong thread for this, but has anyone else considered, or is their a discussion here somewhere of the possibility that Jodi had an accomplice? thanks.
Welcome to RC! Glad to have your comments.
We did discuss the possibility JA may have had an accomplice but it was ruled out.
There is no evidence anyone was involved in the murder other than JA.
The detectives did an excellent job securing the scene and gathering the evidence.

Why would you think their might have been an accomplice?

You realize, she has confessed to the crime of murder.
She has stated it was self defense.
IF there had been an accomplice, the self defense would have to be ruled out and it would be clear-cut murder one against her, right? Are you suggesting she might have entered the premises with another person with the intent of murdering Travis? That, again, would be first degree and premeditated murder and NO self defense would even stand up IF this was the case. Further, two against one in the man's own home?

JA was physically fit. She had training in martial arts. From the videos, we can see how agile she is. She is able to do headstands and hold her balance well. Handcuffed, her mobility is barely effected as she positions herself on the floor, bends her face to her knees and flips her hair back. This is no frail female. Even Ryan Burns commented on her well developed stomach muscles.

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Post by Freckles Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:16 am

Pianist wrote:
Ms. Gibson wrote:Newbie here...sorry if I'm in the wrong thread for this, but has anyone else considered, or is their a discussion here somewhere of the possibility that Jodi had an accomplice? thanks.

I thought about that possibility earlier, but firstly I don't think she would trust anyone enough to include him/her. But more importantly if she did, then is that the person who was going to be the recipient of the gun and knives found in her trunk when she was arrested? This woman could easily kill again.
The two knives were reported to have been found in the bottom of a box with books on top. The gun was not found in the car compartment proper; when the rental was returned, the gun was located while it was being detailed by the rental company. (The LE KNEW she had purchased a gun as the receipt was located in her grandparent's residence. ) I am sure they had already verified she had applied for a permit July 1, 2008.
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Post by Ann - Tx Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:28 am

Freckles wrote:Hi, Ann! Friendly shout out !
Missed you!!!

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Hi, Freckles!

Thanks for the roses. Things have been hectic lately. I have a lot of "catching up" to do re the JA trial.

The JA threads here are a great place to stay informed re JA. So many members have done such an awesome job re updates, discussion, etc.

For you, Freckles;

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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:22 am

Freckles wrote:Clancy:
Had an event.
JA showed up--- UNINVITED.
TA was letting people stay overnight at his home.
She insisted on staying there.
He slept in his office so girls could have his bed.
JA announced in front of @ 30 people she was TA's gf--- and TA had a gf there!
TA denounced her-- told the group he had dated her a few times was all.
Told JA he would see her the next day.
She refused to leave.
On the stand, she said she spent the night on the couch: LIE. She slept under the Christmas tree!

http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/


There is no info on the above at this link. Can anyone please give me some other info on where to find out more about this??

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Post by Calypso Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:28 am

Ann - Tx wrote:
Freckles wrote:Hi, Ann! Friendly shout out !
Missed you!!!

Jodi Arias -- Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #8 - Page 10 803492

Hi, Freckles!

Thanks for the roses. Things have been hectic lately. I have a lot of "catching up" to do re the JA trial.

The JA threads here are a great place to stay informed re JA. So many members have done such an awesome job re updates, discussion, etc.

For you, Freckles;

Jodi Arias -- Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #8 - Page 10 Animated-Beautiful-Flowers-Pictures-6

Oooooo, very pretty!
Hope all is well Ann!
I'm visiting at my sons, not being able to follow either as I'm
Not home. Hope all well on your end!
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Post by 18thcenturylady Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:44 am

Ms. Clancy Talbot said she was on the "prosecution's witness list"---What the heck happened??? WHY isn't this person still scheduled to testify?

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/20/friend-travis-alexander-clancy-talbot-prosecution-witness-list


I am deeply angry, disappointed and disturbed that evidently the prosecution is not allowed to present all the witnesses there are out there to Jodi's stalking/jealousy. The heart of this case is her OBSESSION AND JEALOUSY OVER TRAVIS. THESE ARE THE REASONS FOR THE MURDER! The jury needs to, and IMO has a right to know what Jodi is REALLY like, and WHY she did this! If Dr. Doofus can present lies portraying Jodi as something she is not, why can't the prosecution present witnesses like Ms. Clancy, and the myriad of Travis' friends who SAW Jodi's jealousy, stalking, possessiveness toward Travis, and general all round creepiness!
I am just so flattened by this trial, and our system, which while allowing excessive leeway to Jodi's defense DOES NOT ACCORD THE PROSECUTION THE SAME FAIR AND EQUITABLE CHANCE TO PRESENT THEIR EVIDENCE TO CONTRADICT SPECIFIC ERRONEOUS DEFENSE CLAIMS.

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Post by carlakay Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:49 am

18thcenturylady wrote:Courtesy of 18thcenturylady and her 18thcenturygentleman!

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"The latest defense witness takes his lunch break"



bwahahahahaha absolutely awesome...made me spew my coffee..lol'd and woke the hubby...just perfect...
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Post by carlakay Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:05 am

once again I got busy cooking dinner and altho I had my lap on the bar listening to squeak lead the baboon I wasn't aware someone barfed behind Jodi till this morn..wouldn't it of just been perfect if it had been projectile and smacked her in the back of the head tho?

I got a couple of questions about yesterday..hopefully one of you will know the answers for. OK first off who WAS the female in the black n white horizontal shirt that kept walking back and forth on Jodi's right side during testimony? While baboons testimony yesterday was repetitive and the expected borefest, this chic flitting round like that was very distracting.
Also bout the last thing I was able to catch was I believe the afternoon break before hubby arrived home and chaos ensued with pups thrilled to see him. Jurors were dismissed and all 3 attorneys were at judges table and the mic was left on..judge seemed to of been instructing Nurmi to do something? He said something about taking her back into the room with them and something about I might forget tho? I'm gonna go youtube day 34 near the end to see if I can find it..just wondering if anyone else caught that convo and what they think it was about?
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Post by carlakay Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:14 am

auman58 wrote:I find it very disturbing that there are CA/JA's out there that can kill a "loved one" and then go on their merry way as if it were on their "to do" list. Where do these kids come from?
As an aside, anyone who is prone to murderous blackouts should not be allowed to walk the streets......ever again.

Hi and welcome..It is disturbing but there are more out there than people realize. I believe "these kids" are born that way..their has been studies proving their brains are vastly different and I believe the major factor in wether or not they grow up to be sociopathic killers is how they are parented. A childs early years are extremely important..not just for them but for us all. Really wish people as a whole could wrap their minds round that.
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