Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #10

Calypso wrote:I think that is only part of the reason.

Didn't TA threaten to "expose" her?

What exactly was he going to expose?

Why did she steal his journals, record their sex talk?

Things that make you go HMMMMMMM.........

Freckles wrote:I shared some links on the THEORIES thread re JA.
These links will take you to informed mental health workers' blogs where the different abnormal personality traits are discussed. Easy read language! lol

Based upon what I was reading, JA probably has anti-social personality disorder (ASPD). If she had borderline personality, she would have not been capable of premeditation by its definition. With this type of disorder, ASPD, it is ALL about control AND sex is used as the medium for the ultimate control. This explains JA's use of sex-- OVA-- with the different males she slept with. It also explains why she used sex to get what she wanted (control, again, having them give in to her) and why this last encounter with Travis she had sex with him prior to murdering him. Ultimate control.

If you are like me, the abhorrence of being intimate so close to the time of the murder probably left you feeling disgusted and nauseated. It is very common in serial killers with this personality disorder to have sex (control) and then the ultimate control over life and death.

Solid, short reads.

Calypso wrote:
Hey Ann!!

David Lohr has them as well on youTube:



Cut and paste title on youTube. There should be a list of the rest of these videos to the right.

I added all 18 videos in another sub-thread:
http://www.realitychatter.com/t4279-jodi-arias-unedited-police-interrogation

LoriKaye wrote:Hi.. First time posting, just to get my feet wet i thought i would ask if anyone knows how the heck Chris @ Skye Hughes got Travis's journals, I thought JA stole them in April 2008 when she moved back to Yreka.

If all goes well with this first post I can't wait to get into all the back stories of this wackadoodle and her cast of characters.. I think I have a lot to bring to this table not just eat from it..Thanks . hope I don't get my hand slapped straight out of the gate,

Alessandra_Deux wrote:Jodi Arias prosecutor's conduct questioned

Michael Kiefer, The Arizona Republic
5:50a.m. EDT March 29, 2013

(VIDEO)

PHOENIX -- Prosecutor Juan Martinez dances on the edge of outrage in the courtroom, and his TV following loves it.

But on Thursday it came back to haunt him when defense attorneys for accused killer Jodi Arias were able to introduce a string of emails -- over his repeated objections -- showing that victim Travis Alexander's close friends had tried to warn Arias that Alexander was an abusive womanizer.

~Snipped~

Furthermore, according to the filing, the case agent, Mesa police Detective Esteban Flores, told the defense attorneys that there was nothing "out of the ordinary" among Alexander's emails; about 8,000 were turned over to the defense in June 2010, including the Hughes emails.

The 2011 filing details the email contents, including "A response from Mr. Hughes ... wherein he asserts that he believes Jodi would be his (Travis') next victim and that Jodi was just another girl that he (Travis) was playing." Alexander allegedly replied by saying "I am a bit of a sociopath."

Other emails from Sky Hughes, the filing says, say that Alexander considered Arias to be a "booty call," and said "How he, Mr. Alexander, was abusive to Jodi and ... how he was beating her emotionally in part by making out with her without giving her a commitment." And there is an email from another woman Alexander was seeing at the time "wherin she complains of Mr. Alexander's conduct making her feel used and dirty."

Read more:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/28/arias-prosecutors-conduct-questioned/2029913/

LoriKaye wrote:Hi.. First time posting, just to get my feet wet i thought i would ask if anyone knows how the heck Chris @ Skye Hughes got Travis's journals, I thought JA stole them in April 2008 when she moved back to Yreka. If all goes well with this first post I can't wait to get into all the back stories of this wackadoodle and her cast of characters.. I think I have a lot to bring to this table not just eat from it..Thanks . hope I don't get my hand slapped straight out of the gate,

Puzzler wrote:If you haven't already seen this video - it's interesting:

Finding Premeditation Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQoF-UE6I8&feature=youtu.be

LoriKaye wrote:Hi.. First time posting, just to get my feet wet i thought i would ask if anyone knows how the heck Chris @ Skye Hughes got Travis's journals, I thought JA stole them in April 2008 when she moved back to Yreka. If all goes well with this first post I can't wait to get into all the back stories of this wackadoodle and her cast of characters.. I think I have a lot to bring to this table not just eat from it..Thanks . hope I don't get my hand slapped straight out of the gate,

olivier57 wrote:

Puzzler wrote:If you haven't already seen this video - it's interesting:

Finding Premeditation Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQoF-UE6I8&feature=youtu.be

Excellent job, I recommend !

Alessandra_Deux wrote:

LoriKaye wrote:Hi.. First time posting, just to get my feet wet i thought i would ask if anyone knows how the heck Chris @ Skye Hughes got Travis's journals, I thought JA stole them in April 2008 when she moved back to Yreka. If all goes well with this first post I can't wait to get into all the back stories of this wackadoodle and her cast of characters.. I think I have a lot to bring to this table not just eat from it..Thanks . hope I don't get my hand slapped straight out of the gate,

Travis Alexander's Journals

SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
MARICOPA COUNTY

MINUTE ENTRY

Page 4:

Sky Hughes is sworn and testifies.

The Court has ordered that Sky Hughes should submit to a deposition.

At the request of Defense,

IT IS ORDERED that after Sky Hughes' deposition is completed, Sky Hughes should turn over the victim's journal(s) to Detective Flores.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/062010/m4272242.pdf

___________

Chris Hughes' wife, Sky Hughes, had Travis Alexander's journals and was ordered by the court, on a request by the defense, to turn them over to detective Flores.

I haven't seen any other court document stating that Travis' journals were in Jodi's possession.

___________

I don't know the answer as to why Sky Hughes had Travis' journals or how she got them.

The above document is the only court document (that I have seen) where Travis' journals are mentioned.

Welcome to RC!!!

18thcenturylady wrote:

Alessandra_Deux wrote:

Travis Alexander's Journals

SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
MARICOPA COUNTY

MINUTE ENTRY

Page 4:

Sky Hughes is sworn and testifies.

The Court has ordered that Sky Hughes should submit to a deposition.

At the request of Defense,

IT IS ORDERED that after Sky Hughes' deposition is completed, Sky Hughes should turn over the victim's journal(s) to Detective Flores.

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/062010/m4272242.pdf

___________

Chris Hughes' wife, Sky Hughes, had Travis Alexander's journals and was ordered by the court, on a request by the defense, to turn them over to detective Flores.

I haven't seen any other court document stating that Travis' journals were in Jodi's possession.

___________

I don't know the answer as to why Sky Hughes had Travis' journals or how she got them.

The above document is the only court document (that I have seen) where Travis' journals are mentioned.

Welcome to RC!!!

Thank you so much for this info. I wonder what is in the journals and why the prosecution has not used them at some point in this trial yet. That worries me a bit. I would think the words of the victim from his own journal would be very important. It will be interesting to hear what Juan asks Skye Hughes about in the rebuttal case. Is Chris a witness for the rebuttal as well?

Alessandra_Deux wrote:

18thcenturylady wrote:


Thank you so much for this info. I wonder what is in the journals and why the prosecution has not used them at some point in this trial yet. That worries me a bit. I would think the words of the victim from his own journal would be very important. It will be interesting to hear what Juan asks Skye Hughes about in the rebuttal case. Is Chris a witness for the rebuttal as well?

Hi 18thcenturylady,

This is a video of an evidentiary hearing where Sky Hughes testified. The hearing was outside the presence of the jury. She said that the prosecution was not going to use her, in other words, Martinez was not going to call her to testify.

Jodi Arias Trial Day 18 (Full)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p1OBwWTGaQ

I believe that Chris and Sky are on the defense's witness list, I haven't seen/read the prosecution rebuttal witness list. I don't know for certain if Martinez is going to call Chris to testify.

I found the following docket entry for this case:

3/26/2013 LOW - List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence - Party (001) 3/26/2013

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

This might be the prosecution rebuttal witness list.

Freckles wrote:Alessandra said: " I believe that Chris and Sky are on the defense's witness list, I haven't seen/read the prosecution rebuttal witness list. I don't know for certain if Martinez is going to call Chris to testify.

I found the following docket entry for this case:

3/26/2013 LOW - List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence - Party (001) 3/26/2013

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

This might be the prosecution rebuttal witness list."

Help! How you negotiate these sites is totally beyond me! I just gave it a try and it is going to be one of those days...

Would you provide a short list of the remaining potential witnesses and post the link and info to the COURT DOC thread? Thanks!

Freckles wrote:IMO, Sky would be testifying so as to clear the issues re the emails she exchanged with Travis. The reason she "scolded" him re his behavior and actions with JA.

18thcenturylady wrote:

Freckles wrote:IMO, Sky would be testifying so as to clear the issues re the emails she exchanged with Travis. The reason she "scolded" him re his behavior and actions with JA.

Yes, but I am hearing here that she (and/or Chris) told Jodi in emails that Travis WAS abusive and used women? I am finding that really hard to believe, but then that would explain why the defense wanted her as a witness, at least at one time. I am hearing that bits of these emails are coming out through Alyce L. but that Juan keeps objecting. Why in hell would Travis' friends have said such disparaging and damaging things about him?

Freckles wrote:Mari-
I don't think so about Sky Hughes.
BOTH she and her husband, Chris, had taken a liking to Travis and were "mentoring" him as an older couple might do with a younger person. He often was in their home and had weekly meals at Chris Hughes' father's home, IIRC.

First thing is understand the rules, the boundaries of a situation. Sky has explained she found JA's behavior in the presence of HER children to be objectionable as it was constantly toucch0feely with Travis. She did not want her children around this behavior as it was against the basic tenets of her religious faith. IF JA was going to be doing this in her home then JA would be unwelcome.

I am sure Sky expressed to Travis something similar re HIS permitting the behavior and perhaps encouraging it or even participating in this touching, IMO, when Sky says Travis' behavior would be so unacceptable SHE would not consider allowing him to date her own sister, she is sending him the message to clean up and fly right. Not saying he was doing anything the "outside" world would regard as shocking but just saying it was not behavior deemed appropriate by their faith.

When Sky sposedly tells JA she might end up "like" the other woman--- apparently, it became common knowledge within the social fabric of the improprieties TA had in touching a woman's butt, perhaps as he pulled her in for a kiss? Only two people were present for that-- the woman and TA. So who told? Sky was NOT there. Was JA trying to control Travis thru his friends and blabbing to them how terrible he was and they simply told JA to go away? Did she try to get him to marry her by blabbing bedroom secrets (real or imagined) and it back-fired so the scarlet woman was told SHE was not welcome for SHE was leading Travis astray?

We ask for our children to have certain morality in a world that seems very immoral. Yet when we stomp our foot and say, NO! Not in MY presence! people brand us as "intolerant" or unreasonable. Since there ARE written guidelines with the LDS church, there are specific procedures for those who violate the tenets, and others ARE called to assist the sinner in atonement, why are we so harsh when Sky is chastising her brother-in-faith and her husband's good friend?

Freckles wrote:

We ask for our children to have certain morality in a world that seems very immoral. Yet when we stomp our foot and say, NO! Not in MY presence! people brand us as "intolerant" or unreasonable. Since there ARE written guidelines with the LDS church, there are specific procedures for those who violate the tenets, and others ARE called to assist the sinner in atonement, why are we so harsh when Sky is chastising her brother-in-faith and her husband's good friend?

Alessandra_Deux wrote:There are two new docket entries:

3/31/2013 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 4/1/2013
NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL: JUROR MISCONDUCT

3/31/2013 OBJ - Objection/Opposition. - Party (001) 4/1/2013
NOTE: DEDEFENDANT’S OBJECTION TO ELICITING TESTIMONY OR MAKING ARGUMENT RELATED TO AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES FOR WHICH PROBABLE CAUSE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

Bo wrote:Juror Misconduct???

olivier57 wrote:If there is a mistrial, will the next one cost as much ?