Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #11

Freckles wrote:Thank you, thank you, thank you, Alessandra!

Freckles wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=FNCz6qO9fOU&NR=1

Level 13:
They are schemers with focus on power; convincing liars;center of attention; manipulation begun at early age; loners who believed they were ugly; early relationships; affairs by partners leave them feeling unwanted and ugly; want to be attractive and loved;


(Diane Downs: level 13: grew up in Phoenix.)

Mylife101 wrote:freckles wrote: "I do not know anything re this expert witness Nurmi wants to add, a Wong."

I have no information about a new defense expert.

Bueller....Bueller....Anyone?

justanopinion wrote:I forgot to say that I think the whole court room should all show up with pop rocks and see how JA really reacts... lol not a good idea because it might cause a mistrial... but would be funny!!

@ Gobble12 then I guess I will have to have Garcia as my alter ego!!

Mel Un ball wrote:

Gobble12 wrote:
Hey!! Good to see so many familiar faces!!

Hello strangers!!!!

Jill-in-NV wrote:

Mel Un ball wrote:

Hello strangers!!!!

Hello all you beautiful people! I'm still trying to figure this all out!

Freckles wrote:Thanks, Shell!

MyLife: Listening to the vid.She is listed as level 13, Schemer on the vid. Start @ 7:00. Her diary writings mirror the journals of Jodi.
OOPS! LEVEL 14!!! @12:00!
My apologies. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=FNCz6qO9fOU&NR=1

Gobble12 wrote:

Mel Un ball wrote:

Hello strangers!!!!

MEL!!!! So glad to see you here!! Can't wait for Monday to get new perspectives of my boyfriend, a.k.a Juan, grilling the man hater, and new perspectives. Let's do this!!!!

Gobble12 wrote:

Jill-in-NV wrote:



Hello all you beautiful people! I'm still trying to figure this all out!

I hear ya, Jill!! We are all in this together, we can figure it out. I already love the fact that if we are "off topic" we won't have our balls cut off!!!

justanopinion wrote:I forgot to say that I think the whole court room should all show up with pop rocks and see how JA really reacts... lol not a good idea because it might cause a mistrial... but would be funny!!

@ Gobble12 then I guess I will have to have Garcia as my alter ego!!

Mellinyce wrote:

Gobble12 wrote:

I hear ya, Jill!! We are all in this together, we can figure it out. I already love the fact that if we are "off topic" we won't have our balls cut off!!!

Gobble12 wrote:

Mellinyce wrote:

WAIT!!!! Is this yet another friend from the 'other' place??!!! WOOHOO!!

Freckles wrote:Seems I have a tendency to do things back-ass-ward.
This is Science of Murder.
Very, very informative and I HIGHLY rec you take a gander at this! It helps to understand WHAT elements are needed to commit the "usual" murder.

1. Brain damage/ injury of any type to the frontal lobe; may cause BLACK OUTS or FOGS...
2. Abuse as a child;
3. Mental illness

--How the brain functions on variety of tests in language much simpler than Dr. Ducky and more accurate than myth buster Alyce.

--He explains the simplest of tests and the resulting brain activity. Frontal lobe handles impulse and control and judgement...

-- Ex: The average lie activates 14 areas of the brain whereas telling the truth activates minimal areas as there is no need to "remember the lie" or to fit it in to the circumstances...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wGQAsGOyI

Gobble12 wrote:

guiltyassin wrote:Am I in the right spot....do I know anybody here?

Hey!! Good to see so many familiar faces!!

guiltyassin wrote:@Mellinyce I sent you a friend request

guiltyassin wrote:

Gobble12 wrote:
Hey!! Good to see so many familiar faces!!

Yes!!! I finally made it over here......wish it was Monday already, can't wait to see Juan.

Mellinyce wrote:

guiltyassin wrote:@Mellinyce I sent you a friend request

on FB?

Calypso wrote:I wonder if Alyce is taking her vitamins for Monday's cross...

guiltyassin wrote:

Mellinyce wrote:

on FB?

No here on rc

Mellinyce wrote:

guiltyassin wrote:

No here on rc

Idk how to see that and accept it lol I dont know my way around this site yet lol

guiltyassin wrote:

Mellinyce wrote:

Idk how to see that and accept it lol I dont know my way around this site yet lol

At the top ther a blue buttons click on profile.....then on that page there are options click on friends and foes
there you will see my request click on the plus sign to add me

Mylife101 wrote:

Freckles wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Evil

I see her as a 12, 13, 14:

12- Kill when they are cornered.
IMO, JA was not really jealous in the normal sense. She simply wanted control over TA and felt another female in his life (Lisa, Mimi, etc.) would diminish the control she had over him;
TA cornered her several times in 2008 based upon the text messages, especially when he told her she was a sociopath and when he threatened to tell everyone what she had done... Her game was up and she knew it. For TA to have told anyone would have left her discredited in that community for the illusion she wanted everyone to believe.

13-Rage.
I do believe JA was in a terrible rage when she left Yreka. Despite the "safe guards" she had put into place to blackmail TA IF he ever told anything negative about her, it appeared he was going to tell the truth. She had to get to him ASAP. The only time she might have faltered was when she was with Darryl or Matt. Otherwise, her rage propelled her forward. It was a cold, methodical rage to get rid of the one person who could tell the truth about her. Her control of him had slipped, in her mind.

14-Schemer.
IMO, JA had schemed for many years about the "good life" she felt she was owed. She had paid the admission price with the kinky sex; she wanted the whole show now. IMO, she schemed to meet TA and become his wife whether he liked it or not. When she fell on hard times early 2008 with the repo of her car, she wanted the BMW TA owned; she hated his being so successful. She had spent so much energy and time trying to land her man and she was NOT going to accept that rejection from her life of fantasy as long as he was alive.

I would like to say I see her as 12 degrees of GUILTY of FIRST DEGREE MURDER with EXECUTION.

I think we are pretty much on the same page. I also considered 14. I rejected it because the schemer kills as a means to get what they want (money, someone else's spouse, etc). Killing Travis guaranteed that she would never get what she ultimately wanted (to be Travis's publically recognized girl).I see Jodi killing Travis as the ultimate FU. Pure retribution for "wronging her" and not giving her what she wanted. IMO, her crime seems to be a combination of 12 and 13. Control freak full of rage at losing control and not getting her way.

justanopinion wrote:

Mylife101 wrote:

Has it actually been positively established that Bobby Juarez is dead? I thought JA said he tried to kill himself? Also, that picture of JA and Bobby and Victor looks like a picture of young people in their 20's. I must have missed something here. Please enlighten me. If Vampire Bobby is indeed dead....then you probably answered that riddle correctly.

You Tube video Type Jodi Arias Bobby Jaurez Blackmail and abuse..She talks about Jodi around min 9. I guess he is living Honolulu Hawaii. Strange... A Vampire living in sunny Hawaii, LoL

I stand corrected... maybe... It could have been one of Hodi's lies... maybe she just wanted him dead because he didn't bow down...
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/426808120728669

Pianist wrote:

Mylife101 wrote:

Great point, freckles. I hadn't thought of "gain" in the sense of "preserving" her reputation so as not to ruin her chances with other upwardly mobile young men in PPL and the Mormon community.

I watched the documentaries on this scale. They were really excellent. I must agree that 14 is what I would rate JA. She has tendencies for several of the other ratings but where is her highest score? I agree with the Freckles on the personal gain and would expand somewhat. JA was really hurting. She was in psychological torment. Here was her MAN and he had just told her what he really thought of her and it was not nice. She had to stop the way she felt and he was the one hurting her (in her irrational thinking). Therefore, IMO her gain from killing him was to put an end to her own misery. She does not have the capability even today to think of anyone but herself. She does not have blunted affect; she has no affect at all. She wanted to hurt Travis as much as she thought he hurt her. I don't believe for a moment that she should be in a hospital. She is not mentally ill. She knew it was wrong or she would not have thought it through so much in detail. Today she does not care if her family hurts or Travis' family hurts. She only cares about herself.

Mellinyce wrote:

Gobble12 wrote:

WAIT!!!! Is this yet another friend from the 'other' place??!!! WOOHOO!!

HAHa! indeed darlin!

Freckles wrote:JMO
Travis had frontal stabs in the neck and the heart first; he attempted to grab the knife suffering the hand wounds; he knocked the camera from JA's hand as he attempted to stagger to the sink; he made it to the sink and began aspirating the blood into the sink; JA started stabbing Travis in the back of the head and his upper right shoulder; Travis feels an urgency to get away and starts down the hall; partway down the hall, Travis complains he can't feel his legs and he slides down the wall, leaving the blood smears there. JA accidentally kicks the camera into the hall as she races after her prey for fear he will get away; JA jumps onto the back of Travis, pulls his head back and slits Travis' throat. The last of the pics are taken showing JA pulling Travis' body back to the shower area. When she gets to the bathroom, Travis body is convulsing. JA believes he is still alive and this is when she shoots him--- he may already be in the shower or on the bathroom floor. (Due to lack of blood flow, there will be no blood splatter from the gunshot wound.)

IMO, JA shot him last because she did NOT want the risk of a gunshot sound being reported.

JA looks over the pics and decides to delete all the pics.
She does not want to be caught with the new camera or have her prints on it so she tosses that into the washer.
(IF the gun is found, it is not registered in CA. The clothing she can toss in a restaurant dumpster. The camera, newly purchased, might lead back to her so she does not take that.)

JA starts to clean up the area including herself. She placed the bloody items into the washer. Used the downstairs bath to clean up. Returns to the upper floor to make sure it looks as if she has NOT been there.
She grabs her backpack, her luggage, her purse. And she locks the door to delay discovery of Travis.

I do not think Travis knew JA was arriving.
Since JA knew the vids TA was watching on the computer yet stated TA's computer was broken, I think it was JA who watched the vids. She put the checks on the desk.
After all, IF TA was really that broke, why would he hold back depositing the checks? There was no sign of disturbance to the desk to indicate any sexual play. Of interest, the office door was locked as well; roomies stated Travis never locked his office door. IMO, JA wanted to make sure certain things were found certain ways. And, there is NO mention of JA's fingerprints on the part of the desk JA said she had been forced down upon for the sposed anal sex.

That is it!

Freckles wrote:

Mylife101 wrote: clipped--

I think we are pretty much on the same page. I also considered 14. I rejected it because the schemer kills as a means to get what they want (money, someone else's spouse, etc). Killing Travis guaranteed that she would never get what she ultimately wanted (to be Travis's publically recognized girl).I see Jodi killing Travis as the ultimate FU. Pure retribution for "wronging her" and not giving her what she wanted. IMO, her crime seems to be a combination of 12 and 13. Control freak full of rage at losing control and not getting her way.

I think so, too.
14 I considered for a reason: I am still speculating JA was misappropriating funds from TA's ATM. Perhaps, the bank statements came at the end of the month ? That would explain TA blowing up at JA end of April (she had no money and had to ask her mother for money to move); and then again, TA blew up end of May. Both times he asked her to come clean, confess or else he would destroy her by telling the Freemans and others.

I am speculating JA may have been taking money for her own daily expenses as well as using the money to "pay TA " for his BMW.

It is apparent JA did NOT want TA telling anyone in the Mormon community of what she had done. Why? She was already picking out the next person and that was Ryan.
(I find it interesting JA writes in text to TA she will no longer being attening PPL---Feb '08?- and then attends the June PPL in Salt Lake...)

Freckles wrote:JMO
Travis had frontal stabs in the neck and the heart first; he attempted to grab the knife suffering the hand wounds; he knocked the camera from JA's hand as he attempted to stagger to the sink; he made it to the sink and began aspirating the blood into the sink; JA started stabbing Travis in the back of the head and his upper right shoulder; Travis feels an urgency to get away and starts down the hall; partway down the hall, Travis complains he can't feel his legs and he slides down the wall, leaving the blood smears there. JA accidentally kicks the camera into the hall as she races after her prey for fear he will get away; JA jumps onto the back of Travis, pulls his head back and slits Travis' throat. The last of the pics are taken showing JA pulling Travis' body back to the shower area. When she gets to the bathroom, Travis body is convulsing. JA believes he is still alive and this is when she shoots him--- he may already be in the shower or on the bathroom floor. (Due to lack of blood flow, there will be no blood splatter from the gunshot wound.)

IMO, JA shot him last because she did NOT want the risk of a gunshot sound being reported.

JA looks over the pics and decides to delete all the pics.
She does not want to be caught with the new camera or have her prints on it so she tosses that into the washer.
(IF the gun is found, it is not registered in CA. The clothing she can toss in a restaurant dumpster. The camera, newly purchased, might lead back to her so she does not take that.)

JA starts to clean up the area including herself. She placed the bloody items into the washer. Used the downstairs bath to clean up. Returns to the upper floor to make sure it looks as if she has NOT been there.
She grabs her backpack, her luggage, her purse. And she locks the door to delay discovery of Travis.

I do not think Travis knew JA was arriving.
Since JA knew the vids TA was watching on the computer yet stated TA's computer was broken, I think it was JA who watched the vids. She put the checks on the desk.
After all, IF TA was really that broke, why would he hold back depositing the checks? There was no sign of disturbance to the desk to indicate any sexual play. Of interest, the office door was locked as well; roomies stated Travis never locked his office door. IMO, JA wanted to make sure certain things were found certain ways. And, there is NO mention of JA's fingerprints on the part of the desk JA said she had been forced down upon for the sposed anal sex.

That is it!

Freckles wrote:JMO
Travis had frontal stabs in the neck and the heart first; he attempted to grab the knife suffering the hand wounds; he knocked the camera from JA's hand as he attempted to stagger to the sink; he made it to the sink and began aspirating the blood into the sink; JA started stabbing Travis in the back of the head and his upper right shoulder; Travis feels an urgency to get away and starts down the hall; partway down the hall, Travis complains he can't feel his legs and he slides down the wall, leaving the blood smears there. JA accidentally kicks the camera into the hall as she races after her prey for fear he will get away; JA jumps onto the back of Travis, pulls his head back and slits Travis' throat. The last of the pics are taken showing JA pulling Travis' body back to the shower area. When she gets to the bathroom, Travis body is convulsing. JA believes he is still alive and this is when she shoots him--- he may already be in the shower or on the bathroom floor. (Due to lack of blood flow, there will be no blood splatter from the gunshot wound.)

IMO, JA shot him last because she did NOT want the risk of a gunshot sound being reported.

JA looks over the pics and decides to delete all the pics.
She does not want to be caught with the new camera or have her prints on it so she tosses that into the washer.
(IF the gun is found, it is not registered in CA. The clothing she can toss in a restaurant dumpster. The camera, newly purchased, might lead back to her so she does not take that.)

JA starts to clean up the area including herself. She placed the bloody items into the washer. Used the downstairs bath to clean up. Returns to the upper floor to make sure it looks as if she has NOT been there.
She grabs her backpack, her luggage, her purse. And she locks the door to delay discovery of Travis.

I do not think Travis knew JA was arriving.
Since JA knew the vids TA was watching on the computer yet stated TA's computer was broken, I think it was JA who watched the vids. She put the checks on the desk.
After all, IF TA was really that broke, why would he hold back depositing the checks? There was no sign of disturbance to the desk to indicate any sexual play. Of interest, the office door was locked as well; roomies stated Travis never locked his office door. IMO, JA wanted to make sure certain things were found certain ways. And, there is NO mention of JA's fingerprints on the part of the desk JA said she had been forced down upon for the sposed anal sex.

That is it!

Freckles wrote:Kiku-- haha! I changed your name.. It now means chrysanthemum... Pronounce that KEE-coy...

In the investigative vids, JA asked det Flores re the BMW and wants to know where it is since she was buying it...
Flores informs her the car is part of Travis' estate and as such can't be released at the time he was interviewing her re the murder of Travis... In April, when she burned out the motor while attempting to tow it (enabling her to go back and spend 3 more days at Travis' home before he sent her off with a flip of his finger...) the car was put into storage pending Travis asking U-Haul to pay the garage for needed repairs to the engine/trans. That is where it was when he died.

JA wanted to know re the checks--- would they be deposited? Flores indicated they would not be AT THAT TIME.

The date on the checks is what interests me.
IIRC, they are dated May 26, 2008. So. May 26 was the legal holiday for Memorial Day that year. No mail service.
IF she had taken them to the PO, they may have gone out that day but probably the next. Now allow 4 days for the mail to be sorted for carrier deliver; 1 day for actual delivery. The soonest Travis would have gotten the checks would have been May 31, 2008, a Saturday. Bank may not have been open that day... Not open on Sunday, June 1st. He could have deposited the checks on June 2 or June 3rd. However, I have to wonder IF there was an envelope in the office trash showing these checks were actually mailed? How often/what days did Travis take out his office trash? Are his fingerprints even on those checks?


May Calendar 2008:
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/monthly.html?year=2008&month=5

Junebug wrote:

Freckles wrote:Kiku-- haha! I changed your name.. It now means chrysanthemum... Pronounce that KEE-coy...

In the investigative vids, JA asked det Flores re the BMW and wants to know where it is since she was buying it...
Flores informs her the car is part of Travis' estate and as such can't be released at the time he was interviewing her re the murder of Travis... In April, when she burned out the motor while attempting to tow it (enabling her to go back and spend 3 more days at Travis' home before he sent her off with a flip of his finger...) the car was put into storage pending Travis asking U-Haul to pay the garage for needed repairs to the engine/trans. That is where it was when he died.

JA wanted to know re the checks--- would they be deposited? Flores indicated they would not be AT THAT TIME.

The date on the checks is what interests me.
IIRC, they are dated May 26, 2008. So. May 26 was the legal holiday for Memorial Day that year. No mail service.
IF she had taken them to the PO, they may have gone out that day but probably the next. Now allow 4 days for the mail to be sorted for carrier deliver; 1 day for actual delivery. The soonest Travis would have gotten the checks would have been May 31, 2008, a Saturday. Bank may not have been open that day... Not open on Sunday, June 1st. He could have deposited the checks on June 2 or June 3rd. However, I have to wonder IF there was an envelope in the office trash showing these checks were actually mailed? How often/what days did Travis take out his office trash? Are his fingerprints even on those checks?


May Calendar 2008:
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/monthly.html?year=2008&month=5

Whoa that's the date of the big argument in the texts where he calls her a psycho, the day I think she decided to murder him! Creepy, didn't know that was the date on the check.

Jill-in-NV wrote:

Mylife101 wrote:Jill-in-NV wrote: "Yes, I agree! This is what I remember also! Hopefully it won't go anywhere! Defense got their juror dumped anyway!"

Jill,
Do you know if Juror 5 is the same juror that spectators have claimed was often seen sitting outside the courthouse in an area that she could have seen reporters and possibly JM being photographed with trial watchers? If this was the same juror, then maybe the DT was looking for any reason to boot her? No matter the reason, I hope J5 conjures up enough common sense to stay away and not cause a scene next week.

No, I don't know if Juror #5 was the one that was seen outside of the courthouse. But, I did read that there was a previous issue with Jurror #5. If I remember correctly, it was something about the judge receiving a phone call saying to watch Jurror #5 because she was communicating with JA while she was on the witness stand! The caller said juror #5 was shaking her head or nodding to JA as if to help her answer questions. So, this is the 2nd thing to come up about her! Sorry, I don't remember where I read that! I'm old! LOL!

Junebug wrote:

Freckles wrote:JMO
Travis had frontal stabs in the neck and the heart first; he attempted to grab the knife suffering the hand wounds; he knocked the camera from JA's hand as he attempted to stagger to the sink; he made it to the sink and began aspirating the blood into the sink; JA started stabbing Travis in the back of the head and his upper right shoulder; Travis feels an urgency to get away and starts down the hall; partway down the hall, Travis complains he can't feel his legs and he slides down the wall, leaving the blood smears there. JA accidentally kicks the camera into the hall as she races after her prey for fear he will get away; JA jumps onto the back of Travis, pulls his head back and slits Travis' throat. The last of the pics are taken showing JA pulling Travis' body back to the shower area. When she gets to the bathroom, Travis body is convulsing. JA believes he is still alive and this is when she shoots him--- he may already be in the shower or on the bathroom floor. (Due to lack of blood flow, there will be no blood splatter from the gunshot wound.)

IMO, JA shot him last because she did NOT want the risk of a gunshot sound being reported.

JA looks over the pics and decides to delete all the pics.
She does not want to be caught with the new camera or have her prints on it so she tosses that into the washer.
(IF the gun is found, it is not registered in CA. The clothing she can toss in a restaurant dumpster. The camera, newly purchased, might lead back to her so she does not take that.)

JA starts to clean up the area including herself. She placed the bloody items into the washer. Used the downstairs bath to clean up. Returns to the upper floor to make sure it looks as if she has NOT been there.
She grabs her backpack, her luggage, her purse. And she locks the door to delay discovery of Travis.

I do not think Travis knew JA was arriving.
Since JA knew the vids TA was watching on the computer yet stated TA's computer was broken, I think it was JA who watched the vids. She put the checks on the desk.
After all, IF TA was really that broke, why would he hold back depositing the checks? There was no sign of disturbance to the desk to indicate any sexual play. Of interest, the office door was locked as well; roomies stated Travis never locked his office door. IMO, JA wanted to make sure certain things were found certain ways. And, there is NO mention of JA's fingerprints on the part of the desk JA said she had been forced down upon for the sposed anal sex.

That is it!

Hi Freckles, I hope you don't mind but I agree with this and would like to take it a bit further. I actually think that she had a backpack/tote bag something in the bathroom prior to the murder. I think she was getting ready to leave (yeah right)maybe putting on make-up, while he was showering-then starts taking pics (he may or may not have been aware of.) Inside this bag she would have had the gun, knife, duct tape, plastic garbage bags, and a change of clothing/shoes. I think this because of the blood stains in the car. I think as she cleaned and bagged things, she put a clean towel down on the closet floor to put these items on and step on to wipe off blood. The one partial shoe print leads me to the towel in the closet theory. I am thinking some of his clothing and her bag may have been on the left side sink that has no blood on it. So, she used two plastic bags, one to take with her and one to take to the washer, possibly explaining the duct tape by the washer. Then putting at least two bags (one backpack, one plastic) in the car explains the stains there. Basically, I feel she prepared as much for the aftermath as she did with the gas, dead cellphone, etc...

Gobble12 wrote:

Jill-in-NV wrote:



Hello all you beautiful people! I'm still trying to figure this all out!

I hear ya, Jill!! We are all in this together, we can figure it out. I already love the fact that if we are "off topic" we won't have our balls cut off!!!

18thcenturylady wrote:I am seriously concerned about the defense wanting to squeeze in another witness at this late date. I haven't been able to find much info on that, let alone a motion, which I am SURE is necessary.
Jodi has the 'right to a speedy trial', and a lot of other rights to as well, but what about the rights of the victim, his family, and the jurors?
Do Jodi's rights extend to having any witness the defense takes a whim to call especially at the 11th hour, and into a trial that has now gone on for 3 1/2 months?
THE DEFENSE IS NOT PRESENTING A REBUTTAL CASE AT THIS TIME, and their case-in-chief has now taken 3 times as long as the prosecution's case.
Uh, oh...Our 'expert' witnesses didn't do so well, so we'd better come up with plan B
Really?
This judge has already given TOO MUCH leeway to Jodi and her attorneys. I did not see this excessive kowtowing to the defense going on in the Casey Anthony case.
The jurors (and everyone else), has had to listen to days and days of testimony from each defense witness, and it's no ones fault but their own if the defense now feels they may have made mistakes in their choice of "experts". When does it stop?
IMO, and trying to be non-prejudicial, I have to say that I feel Ms. Arias has indeed gotten a fair trial---I would even say MORE than fair.

Another so-called 'expert' is NOT going to make any difference in this case because it's the old saying, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear", or "bricks without straw"...The facts of the case DO NOT SUPPORT THE CONCLUSIONS THESE 'EXPERTS' ARE COMING TO, AND THEY NEVER WILL, NO MATTER HOW MANY OF THEM GET UP THERE AND PUT THEIR 'SPINS' ON IT!

The evidence tells a clear and coherent story, that is irrefutable. Adding another, or another, or another will NEVER change that. The defense 'expert witnesses' are only succeeding in making themselves look incompetent, and committing professional suicide.
In the meantime, the jury hasn't heard half of what WE know to be factual in this case regarding Travis, and Travis and Jodi's relationship.
By now, they must be weary in the extreme. This has consumed their lives for months, and one has to ask, WHEN are THEIR rights and the VICTIM'S RIGHTS in this trial to be considered? When will this judge finally say "NO, Miss Arias has had ample leeway and every consideration given to her!"---(even to the petty insults directed at Travis' family members---the ribbon affair for one, and sustained by this judge!)

I think I really will lose what faith I have left in our system, if I see this defense get away with any more of their insulting shenanigans, or prolong this trial anymore.

Somehow, somewhere along the line, the focus got blurred, if not downright obfuscated---ALV said it when she referred to JODI AS THE VICTIM, AND TRAVIS AS THE PERPETRATOR!

I have had enough! Of all the number of words spoken in this trial, I would bet the vast majority have been about Jodi and her lies---to the point where the victim's good name has been totally trashed.
This trial needs to wrap up, and soon, and in future, I certainly hope that there IS a 'Travis' Law' so that maybe we don't have the travesty of the trashing of a victim in our court system ever again.