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Gabriel Johnson -- Missing 12/26/09

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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:01 pm

Will only consider letters from people who know Miss Smith
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:01 pm

Frank McQuery addressing court
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:05 pm

Judge has reviewed the case, emails rec from all over the country however, those without a personal involvement in case, not going to consider their thoughts, opinions.
Judge cares what he has seen and heard in the court. Those who are personally involved in case.

TS is scowling nasty.

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Mr. McQeery to speak: No remorse from TS and she is not camera shy. No sorrow expressed on her part. She "set out to take this baby from his family". No future with Gabriel. Think TS should go to jail. Perhaps she will then feel the pain the father's family has felt.


Said he had heard TS state she thought God wanted TS to have this baby; (bad things) have happened when people believe God wants them to...

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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:05 pm

McQ: its been a long couple of years. We still don't know where Gabe is...we fear the worse. No remorse from TS, never been media or camera shy...no sorrow for what has occurred
She set out to take this baby from our family. We have no future with Gabe. I think she should go to jail. If she is away from her family, maybe she will feel what we feel.
Difficult for son, want it to be as difficult for TS. Terrible things using God's name, that is this case.
Gabes dad wants TS in jail...not probabtion
What was daddy name?

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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:06 pm

Pros: Showing photos that McQ and family asked to be shown
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:08 pm

Pros did not know up to last nite what to recommend...we reviewed mitigation and aggravation
Read presentence report, he has least amount of info. He rec 2 years probabtion each charge.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:09 pm

Victims in this case....Logan is only statutory vic in this case
Gabe family and friends were affected
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:12 pm

State: Wants to reserve comments to the end.
Judge: Denies. Wants the comments now.

State (Andrews): Indicating family pics
States that up to last night State did not know what they would rec to Judge. State reviewed the rec from others.

Speaks of rec for presentenceing report.

Logan is the only one listed as interested party.
State does not believe the suggestion by Logan is the one the Judge has.

Logan wanted probation and 20,000 dollars restitution to be paid to a charity for others. Logan was told it was not appropriate. He said he would send a different one. Apparently, Logan did not not. He sent the same rec to Judge.

Logan has been on probation and found it hard. Reason he wanted TS to be on probation.

Other family members want max on each count and not not to be together.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:12 pm

Confusion about emails from Logan
Family members asking for max sentence
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:13 pm

TS not so smiley today
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:14 pm

"TS talks about losing car and house, when we lost Baby Gabe"


TS shaking head, sneer on her face
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:16 pm

Pros reading family letters....
all have same theme.....TS needs to be in jail. Needs to go to prison. No remorse. Does not see herself guilty. Sees herself as a savior....etc
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:16 pm

Frank McQ wants 3.5 years and probation or parole
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:17 pm

State:
G. Aunt Kelly: attended court.
Logan wondering if every time he sees another boy if he could be his son.

Aunt: Unacceptable TS rec less than max.
Family friend: Tammi calls others names, hides behind her religion.

Another: TS still does not see her self as guilty but sees herself as "savior of women and children".

Rec: 3 1/2 yrs followed by probation.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:17 pm

Pros "TS certainly has mental health issues" that can be addressed
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:19 pm

Showing Jack Smith shaking his head
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:22 pm

Did I just hear TS and JS has started a charity "Stones of Grace"?
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:23 pm

State:
Says TS has significant mental health issues.
Not the first time TS believed she could manipulate the system for her own self. Mentions others adoptions, sperm, etc..

TS is very manipulative for her own wishes and desires.
Intelligent. Business leader. Tried to control Elisabeth Johnson. When TS found out Logan was in the picture, TS plowed on against her own lawyer and lied to her lawyer; TS did not stop when she lied to CPS about babysitting; when she watched CPS confront Elizabbeth or Logan or was told by CPS told her to BUTT out; she did n't stop when she changed Gabriel's names, took him to Santa; when Elizabeth fled to TX; when she told Logan to sign adoption papers in order to get Logan to come home.

She does not stop today. She has tried to start a charity for women/children. She doesn't stop complaining about how much money she is spending.

She does not stop when she complains of media/public
interest in finding Gabriel. She invited the public/media in and then complained. Neither Logan, Elizabeth, or PD put TS in the media. TS and her husband invited them in!

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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:24 pm

Chickenbutt wrote:Did I just hear TS and JS has started a charity "Stones of Grace"?

YES!
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:25 pm

Nacny Grace gonna offer TS a job.....per TS...geez
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:26 pm

Pros had a 7 mo old blond haired blue eyed baby......she is choking up.
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:26 pm

State:
What keeps us up at night is when a person takes a baby to keep the child from the parents;
what keeps us up is how the defendant is talking about waiting for Nancy Grace who offered a job; what keeps us up at night is looking at my little blond haired son and wonder...

Andrews is choking up.
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:27 pm

State:
2 1/2 yr sentence; mental health terms; probation; no care, custody or control over ANY children but her own; not to profit from any books, media, etc..
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:27 pm

HA....condition that she can't profit from this case
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:27 pm

CB or someone grab it, please.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:29 pm

Pros done...def up.....not showing person on camera per def request
Reverend Spears up now, no camera on him
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:29 pm

This witness is JS brother in law
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:32 pm

This is convoluted.....bibles, TS wanting to help children and mothers due to her past....separation from her children. I counseled her to be careful.
I head Teen challenge centers
I told her step back, slow down, take the proper steps
Funding is an issue
Follow your dreams, but so it properly.
Never lose site of her vision, but keep one foot on the ground.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:34 pm

TS has a big heart, caring
Not vindictive, overextends herself
Educates herself to get knowledge how to help others
TS very caring person

Repetative comments now

nhas caused her to be taken advantage of
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:35 pm

What drives her is to help people...

Done
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Def witness:
Brother-in-law to Jack Smith.
Minister for many years.
CA and Nevada.

Says TS in counseling with this man.
He tried to give advise to her, help her to make positive steps.
TS is caring for women and children.
They talked of how TS could help others.
He told her to be careful of how she did this.

He is a presbyr over 95 churches.
He told her a need for funding, donations, keeping it going. Not to look too large but keep it manageable.

He encouraged her to never lose sight of her vision.
Never lose sight of reality.
Keep one foot on the ground.

(He is going mono-tone now.)

Says TS is never vindictive.
Believes TS is a very caring person. Told her to be careful in how she cared. He thinks she can easily be taken advantage of .

Believes she has cares. She wants to help others.
Blah-blah-blah.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:37 pm

Another preacher up...Rev Pryor

Not a counselor, I am a pastor...I provide biblical counseling
TS has seen me on several occassions
She always looks out for the dowtrodden, reaches out to people others would overlook
Wants to talk about intent
Will sacrifice with great cost to herself
All I want to ask you is that you take into consideration that TS is guided by her heart and not always by her head.
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Post by tesstruhart Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:37 pm

All I could think of was I would be asleep in his church. What a monotone.
Next witness, another pastor....She is guided by her heart not always by her head. Temper judgement with mercy please.
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:37 pm

Rev Pryor (sp) Pastoral counseling at church. Biblical counseling only. Believes TS to be kind-hearted and PUTS THE DOWNTRODDEN FIRST, etc.

TS' intent is to always help others.

TS will do this at great cost to her self.
Asks the judge to consider TS is guided by her heart. Please consider justice, mercy and temperance.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:38 pm

Craig Cherry up next
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:38 pm

TS got swept away, very caring person, mother and wife
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Post by tesstruhart Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:39 pm

Mr. Cherry....cousin....known her my whole life, She is loving caring, mother,wife. Amazing woman, given her childhood, she is amazing. She is very strong. That's about it.
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:39 pm

Def witness:
Known TS her entire life.
Said TS is an amazing woman.
Has stayed very strong.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:39 pm

How many of these people are we going to have to listen to?
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm

JS atty up now...
TS has a loving heart
Clients at TS job love TS
On behalf of JS we ask for probabtion, no jail


What is this all about.....? Atty has become friends with her or what? That was odd
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Post by tesstruhart Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm

Benjamin Taylor, Jacks attorney, behalf of Jack Smith and family, I have gotten to know Tammy through this trial, I have had dinner with them. She is an excellent mom.
jack is asking for probation with no jail. Mr. smith will speak after me. Rare for you to see this type of person in your courtroom, a Christian.....(really?)
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:41 pm

Def:
On behalf of Jack and TS .
TS has a loving heart.
TS is excellent and loving mom.


On behalf of Jack and TS asking for probation without jail time.

Says unusual to see such a Christian woman. Gone on missions. Kind hearted.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:41 pm

JS up

yada, yada, yada...we met 14 yrs ago
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Post by tesstruhart Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:42 pm

Jack, met her 14 years ago with the sweetest smiles. She is quite a talker as you have seen. My business flourished because of her talking... ( I can't type the rest)
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:42 pm

Phone....dam* it...brb
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:43 pm

Def witness:
Sounds like Jack! The hubby!
Praising his wife like he did during the trial.
All about how Jack loved Tammi.
How TS became best friend with Jack's kids.
And then, became friends with Jack's grand-kids.

(He makes me barf. Blah-blah. She looks like hell.)


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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:44 pm

OK,,,got rid of the caller.....
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Post by Freckles Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:44 pm

TS wiping her eyes as if she is crying.
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Post by Chickenbutt Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:44 pm

TS sister? Is this the one who tried to kill her baby?
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Post by tesstruhart Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:45 pm

He can't imagine his and his children's life without Tammi, well, (these are my words) what about Logan being without Gabriel???????HELLO
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