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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:53 pm

interesting... DR wanted to teach and so did LA... maybe that's why he said teaching sucked because the friend that broke his heart wanted to do it...
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Post by Pianist Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:55 pm

Today I have go in and out so I am watching and recording all of it from now through 10:00 pm. At least I will get all of it that way. I also read all of you fine people's posts. I know you are ahead but I can closely look at the things you have brought out.
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:55 pm

damn this breaking up feed...
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:55 pm

She bought Travis his computer as a Christmas gift.
She was NEVER on the computer!




elizabetherwin Reid now has Alexander's dog. 47 seconds ago ยท

elizabetherwin Reid just said "He has a dog named Napoleon." Painful slip.
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Post by renatae Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:57 pm

Argh! Are you kidding me? Recess already??? Sad
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:57 pm

hopefully it'll give them time to fix this jacked up feed...
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Post by carlakay Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:58 pm

anybody else see that evil bitch's smile at the mention of Napoleon? Made me physically ill for real
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Post by Junebug Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:59 pm

It is refreshing to hear from someone that knew Travis so long and is talking nicely about him. I love that she has his dog. I read somewhere that he willed his dog to Deanna.
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:59 pm

carlakay wrote:I think Arias looks plum ill today..anybody agree?

Migraine time??? Shocked
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:00 pm

so was JM done questioning?
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Post by justanopinion Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:00 pm

I watched for just a few minutes today... crazy life just caught up with me... seems like things are going okay... was there any big ah-ha moments... any gotcha's??
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Post by Junebug Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:00 pm

Bath Karas tweeted that jury has questions for Deanna. This afternoon is going to really good.
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:01 pm

There is now a replay:
DEANNNA REID

http://www.realitychatter.com/?pid=1


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Post by auman58 Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:01 pm

JM proved JA lied on the stand. Any or all of her testimony can be disregarded.
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:01 pm

JAO... JA lied about the gas can and gas, like we didn't already know that but the companies confirmed it... Deanna says TA was a swell guy and all that goes with it...
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Post by Mari 68 Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:04 pm

I bet the jurors are gonna ask if Travis was a virgin before meeting Jodi.


That's what I would ask
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:05 pm

my feed kept going out... didn't she say he would never actually say he was a virgin but would laugh and let people think it?
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Post by carlakay Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:07 pm

Bmore wrote:my feed kept going out... didn't she say he would never actually say he was a virgin but would laugh and let people think it?

yes that is what she stated
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:08 pm

DR:
She said while on her mission, 2000-2001, she had no phone contact with Travis. Letters were sent. Problems in relationship toward end of her mission; she was 21 he was 22; mission over in Nov 2001; he wanted to date someone else so he wrote her a letter in summer, 2001.

They broke up. When she returned, she was living in Riverside, CA as he was; they started hanging out at church; they started dating first of 2002; they were exclusive; 2004 he moved to Mesa and she moved to Phoenix with her job...
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Post by carlakay Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:09 pm

Mari 68 wrote:I bet the jurors are gonna ask if Travis was a virgin before meeting Jodi.


That's what I would ask

there is no way this girl would know that tho unless he confided in her about it and I think Juan would of brought it up if that was the case. My guess is the juror question will be..Did you and Travis have a sexual relationship?
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:09 pm

so was there ever any confirmation on his V card status for sure? I don't care either way... We know that of the main girls he dated after DR that JA was the only sexual one so we know he wasn't active...
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:09 pm



BethKaras There are questions in the jury basket for Deanna Reid. #JodiArias
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:11 pm

or the question is why would JA say in her testimony that TA wanted her to stay away from you because you're crazy / unstable?
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Post by carlakay Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:11 pm

Bmore wrote:so was there ever any confirmation on his V card status for sure? I don't care either way... We know that of the main girls he dated after DR that JA was the only sexual one so we know he wasn't active...

not that I am aware of. I really wish we would of heard from Ester,I believe the name was,IIRC she was the one Jodi claimed Travis used astro glide with..wth that is cuz I have never heard of such before this case
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Post by Mrskinger Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:11 pm

If Hodi tries to pull a 'migraine' today they need to just strap her to her chair and so she can just face it. I can't wait for this afternoon... Great job today Juan !
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Post by Freckles Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:14 pm

NOT A SINGLE PERSON... male or female... has said Travis was a person who cursed or was abusive.

IF Travis wrote those emails to JA, I have to wonder what she did to push his button?

AND because she is a hacker, I have to wonder IF she forged those emails Travis sposedly sent to her!!!
Bring back that computer guy, please!
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Post by Mari 68 Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:16 pm

This is moving along nicely.

Wonder when the Judge will render her answer as to the surrebuttal
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:17 pm

Remember LA said he didn't like the words butt, fart and crap I think... and the courtroom laughed...
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Post by renatae Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:21 pm

Bmore wrote:my feed kept going out... didn't she say he would never actually say he was a virgin but would laugh and let people think it?

Yes, that's what I thought she said.
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Post by Weeziethm Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:22 pm

Yes, I think one of the questions is "were you and travis sexually intimate".
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Post by stina Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:22 pm

Help anyone!
Why is it important JA filled gas cans in SLC? She had already done her horrible deed. Did or do they have a record or her doing this in Cali before she entered Az?

Sorry kinda lost on the point....today is a good day!
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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:23 pm

Bmore wrote:i thought it was sku# not skew#...

It is SKU, not "skew". I'm surprised the DT didn't jump all over that and spend a day trying to disqualify her over that mistake! Laughing

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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:23 pm

i thought it was classic JA to say that DR was crazy/unstable when she's the one on trial... It's never me, always someone else...
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Post by sassy5d Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:23 pm

Like the speed of things.. Was expecting more from Juan with this last witness.. For example, ?'s about JA
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:24 pm

Stina i think to show they were empty so she used them during the AZ leg of her trip to avoid detection...
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Post by sassy5d Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:25 pm

@stina, shows she refilled 3 gas cans after
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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:26 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:WTF---Why would a juror ask if a refund could have been given to her with a dummy sku? It worries me because it sounds like some (one) on the jury is looking to believe the b---.

Nah... No need to worry. Simply trying to rule out all possibilities.

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Post by justanopinion Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:29 pm

sassy5d wrote:Like the speed of things.. Was expecting more from Juan with this last witness.. For example, ?'s about JA


I would imagine that JM did not ask ??? re: JA as it would look like it was a jealousy thing... hopefully, JW will ask something that leads to a gotcha... re: JA

a question like: Since you and TA were such good friends did he confide in you about dating JA... did he confide some of the issues he was having with JA... or his suspicions of JA (although that is heresay)
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Post by gsweater Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:29 pm

auman58 wrote:Look at the arms on that girl. Wow.

I bet she gives a mean Handy... Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #16 - Page 5 88030

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Post by tesstruhart Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:29 pm

Bmore wrote:Remember LA said he didn't like the words butt, fart and crap I think... and the courtroom laughed...
Speaking of farts, I am an old one and having a brain fart....who is LA
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Post by stina Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:29 pm

Thanks all. That was what my lil mind thought but I missed a lot of the trial.

One question or observation....if JA dropped the camera in front of the shower as she lies, how did it get behind her in the hall as she was dragging poor Travis? It could not possibly have bounced all the way down the hall!
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Post by Mari 68 Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:30 pm

stina wrote:Help anyone!
Why is it important JA filled gas cans in SLC? She had already done her horrible deed. Did or do they have a record or her doing this in Cali before she entered Az?

Sorry kinda lost on the point....today is a good day!

Its important for two reasons:


One, being that it shows those gas cans are EMPTY and needing filling. Meaning she used all that gas on her trip FROM Arizona - hiding any detection of her.

Two, it shows that Jodi filled 3 five gallon cans. 15 gallons. For some dumb reason, Jodi has decided to lie about there being 3 cans. She insisted on the stand she only had two cans cuz she realized immediately after purchasing the third can she ran back into WalMart to return it.

In Jodi's f'ked up world, two gas can equals the normal behavior of all normal people. Three gas cans would equal premed.

I say two or three - it shows premed.

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Post by justanopinion Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:30 pm

sassy5d wrote:Like the speed of things.. Was expecting more from Juan with this last witness.. For example, ?'s about JA


sassy5d.... just wanted to say hello and welcome
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Post by Bmore Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:30 pm

even if there was a dummy sku return she would have had to sign the return slip and they give it on a merchandise card... I don't think our walmarts have given actual 'cash' for a non-receipt return in forever... Only get cash with a receipt, I guess they can put it back on your card if you ask but usually give me cash... after 3 non-receipt returns you're black listed for a year and can't make anymore returns unless you have a receipt...
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Post by renatae Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:31 pm

Freckles wrote:NOT A SINGLE PERSON... male or female... has said Travis was a person who cursed or was abusive.

IF Travis wrote those emails to JA, I have to wonder what she did to push his button?

AND because she is a hacker, I have to wonder IF she forged those emails Travis sposedly sent to her!!!
Bring back that computer guy, please!

Yes, yes, and yes! It really bugs me that no one knows what she said to set him off - and you know it had to be a doozy after all this. Two breakups with one girl who he later said "broke his heart" yet they never had harsh words, Jodi wrecks his car, no harsh words (but he goes into a "rage" because she dropped his camera from a height of 5 inches or so, right, Jodi) yada, yada.

Not the kind of guy to get angry, yet he (supposedly) calls her "three hole wonder" "evil" "sociopath" "the worst thing that ever happened to him." Her hubris at using these words for her defense really gripes my rear. Instead of being duly ashamed that she apparently had jerked him around enough to earn such epithets, she uses it to make him look like an abuser.
Twit.

Either way, she's the piece of work, not him.
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Post by renatae Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:33 pm

gsweater wrote:
Bmore wrote:i thought it was sku# not skew#...

It is SKU, not "skew". I'm surprised the DT didn't jump all over that and spend a day trying to disqualify her over that mistake! Laughing

Yeah, where was JW calling for a mistrial and a court martial??? Laughing
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Post by justanopinion Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:34 pm

renatae wrote:
Freckles wrote:NOT A SINGLE PERSON... male or female... has said Travis was a person who cursed or was abusive.

IF Travis wrote those emails to JA, I have to wonder what she did to push his button?

AND because she is a hacker, I have to wonder IF she forged those emails Travis sposedly sent to her!!!
Bring back that computer guy, please!

Yes, yes, and yes! It really bugs me that no one knows what she said to set him off - and you know it had to be a doozy after all this. Two breakups with one girl who he later said "broke his heart" yet they never had harsh words, Jodi wrecks his car, no harsh words (but he goes into a "rage" because she dropped his camera from a height of 5 inches or so, right, Jodi) yada, yada.

Not the kind of guy to get angry, yet he (supposedly) calls her "three hole wonder" "evil" "sociopath" "the worst thing that ever happened to him." Her hubris at using these words for her defense really gripes my rear. Instead of being duly ashamed that she apparently had jerked him around enough to earn such epithets, she uses it to make him look like an abuser.
Twit.

Either way, she's the piece of work, not him.


The obvious comment to make to this ... is that someone knew that Jodi was sexually promiscuous or why would the roommate call her a 3-hole wonder in the first place..these were all young men who shared the space and obviously some confidences were shared.. or there would have been no reason to have called her that..
moo moo moo
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Post by sassy5d Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:35 pm

@ Justin. Thanks. On my phone, can't quote ;)

I have enjoyed this forum, finally had it with fb and the constant ramblings of random regurgitation that I finally registered here today.

I just wish the gun was found. Can't say for certain she stole the gun and used it, although logic would tell you otherwise.
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Post by auman58 Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:35 pm

renatae wrote:
Yes, yes, and yes! It really bugs me that no one knows what she said to set him off - and you know it had to be a doozy after all this. Two breakups with one girl who he later said "broke his heart" yet they never had harsh words, Jodi wrecks his car, no harsh words (but he goes into a "rage" because she dropped his camera from a height of 5 inches or so, right, Jodi) yada, yada.

Not the kind of guy to get angry, yet he (supposedly) calls her "three hole wonder" "evil" "sociopath" "the worst thing that ever happened to him." Her hubris at using these words for her defense really gripes my rear. Instead of being duly ashamed that she apparently had jerked him around enough to earn such epithets, she uses it to make him look like an abuser.
Twit.

Either way, she's the piece of work, not him.

Passive aggressive.....push buttons until you get a reaction then play the victim.
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Post by tesstruhart Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:38 pm

renatae wrote:
Freckles wrote:NOT A SINGLE PERSON... male or female... has said Travis was a person who cursed or was abusive.

IF Travis wrote those emails to JA, I have to wonder what she did to push his button?

AND because she is a hacker, I have to wonder IF she forged those emails Travis sposedly sent to her!!!
Bring back that computer guy, please!

Yes, yes, and yes! It really bugs me that no one knows what she said to set him off - and you know it had to be a doozy after all this. Two breakups with one girl who he later said "broke his heart" yet they never had harsh words, Jodi wrecks his car, no harsh words (but he goes into a "rage" because she dropped his camera from a height of 5 inches or so, right, Jodi) yada, yada.

Not the kind of guy to get angry, yet he (supposedly) calls her "three hole wonder" "evil" "sociopath" "the worst thing that ever happened to him." Her hubris at using these words for her defense really gripes my rear. Instead of being duly ashamed that she apparently had jerked him around enough to earn such epithets, she uses it to make him look like an abuser.
Twit.

Either way, she's the piece of work, not him.
I agree totally. However, if you look at the names 'he called her' and the violence that allegedly occurred, and his thoughts about Deanna being 'crazy', it seems to me, that Jodi dearest is projecting. All those things were things that she did or thought. So, that makes me wonder big time if she has made up much of the emails, texts etc. Since she had the passwords it would make sense. The phone call, she was the leader and just gave him a long leash as she seduced him. He never knew he was being taped. This was a man who evidently never cursed, screamed or otherwise demonstrated any 'abusive' behavior to anyone else. That is not the MO of an abuser. You will find that people generally are walking on eggs around someone who is a true abuser because they don't want to set him off. Just a few thoughts.
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