Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #18

18thcenturylady wrote:Did you notice Jodi put on the sad face the minute the skull photos of Travis came out? Even hubby noticed the lightening fast change in her demeanor...I hate her.

Yeah, rewatching her testimony last night stirred up all kinds of hate in me. She's just evil.

justanopinion wrote:

Freckles wrote:
Short break while they review the jury questions.

Sounds like Juan was smoking him... did he get him to admit that he didn't know everything!!

Got him to back track and admit he knew NOTHING, IMO.
Every expert witness Gaffy dumped on Juan got him to admit he did not know what he was talking about! Really nailed it with the pics (shown only to him) of Travis' skull and of the brain. Turns out Gaffy has never done an autopsy; never attended a full autopsy; in fact, has only attended AFTER the brain had been removed... and that was ONCE.

Bmore wrote:from fb...

Denise Viola - OK - just listening to the awful sex tape on Tru-tv and a thought just came to mind....(sorry don't know if it was mentioned before). BUT this tape was supposedly tape a few weeks before he was murdered and JA claims she was trying to help TA get over his attraction to young boys and girls yet when he says she sounds like a 12 year old she totally gets into it...WTH??? If she was trying to help him wouldn't that be her clue to start talking about his "PROBLEM". I know that wasn't the real purpose of the tape but I think it would be an interesting point to bring up in trial.....what do you think?

Great point!!!

Well, Jodi?

DR is in the gallery... glad she can start to come and support

Weeziethm wrote:10 minute break. Security is there until 8 pm AZ time if they last that long. Wanting jury questions, but I think JW is going back up to re-re-cross on the re-butt-butt.

JA is going to be tired. She has been up since @ 3 AM... and has to be back in court tomorrow! Wonder if she will bring her cold sore with her? Bet she starts to let down some of that ugly pretense she has been carrying around!

Jodi lining up her widdle pencils lol

=== Wilmott is trying to mop up and sanitize Gaffy's reputation as Martinez left it in shambles!

LOL!

Jodi's face is fugly.

Her eyes are too small and one of 'em is crooked.

Her nose is all bulgeous.

And her teeth are crooked on her right side.

===Wilmot asked a question;
Martinez objected;
Judge sustained it.
Wilmot pushed on and asked, "Briefly, what happened?"

Judge ordered an approach!

...
Now we are on to another case, the Clark case, in which he was discredited.
Gaffy said he did not have enough time to present it all.
Ruling went against him.
(Hmmm. In the JA case, Gaffy had a WEEK to prepare!)

Then we have the French case.
His testimony was not allowed in entirety.
He was not allowed to testify outside his expertize.

Juan is really frustrating Wilmot by throwing out objections every time she says anything! Got a bench now!

This is funny! Juan is continuing to object and the judge is siding with him!

did you just see JW's hissy fit? wow... unprofessional

Mari 68 wrote:Jodi's face is fugly.

Her eyes are too small and one of 'em is crooked.

Her nose is all bulgeous.

And her teeth are crooked on her right side.

yep but as a blonde she was flashy... and with the boob job guessing not too many men actually looked at her face!!

Freckles wrote:===Wilmot asked a question;
Martinez objected;
Judge sustained it.
Wilmot pushed on and asked, "Briefly, what happened?"

Judge ordered an approach!

LOVED it!!!!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

she really knows how to drag this oooonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

OOOOH! Gaffy said HE did not get paid!
Well, the pay IS going to his institution!!!!

he said hopefully... as if he doesn't do well on the stand they'll stiff him on the 'donation'... lol

Freckles wrote:OOOOH! Gaffy said HE did not get paid!
Well, the pay IS going to his institution!!!!

yeah, that's like me

I own the agency, I bring in money - but I just pay myself a salary. I don't increase my paychecks when bringing in large amounts of money.


What we want to know is - how much is his annual salary?

Bmore wrote:he said hopefully... as if he doesn't do well on the stand they'll stiff him on the 'donation'... lol

Hey, where were you? napping?


been at least 30 mins since your last post!

been running errands since 330 EST, popped in for a few before my doc appt then back on.... lol

Freckles wrote:Thinking of JA and this song came to mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYsrKDSKzWg

Yes, a good old sing along song....interesting thought to apply the lyrics to someone with a death sentence. I always kind of assumed the song was about a terminal illness or maybe like a suicide goodbye.

Terry Jacks - Seasons in the Sun
Goodbye to you
my trusted friend
We've known each other since we were nine or ten
Together we've climbed hills and trees
Learned of love and A-B-C's
Skinned our hearts and skinned our knees.
Goodbye
my friend
it's hard to die
When all the birds are singing in the sky;
Now that the spring is in the air
Pretty girls are ev'rywhere
Think of me and I'll be there.
We had joy
we had fun
We had seasons in the sun;
But the hills that we climbed
Were just seasons out of time.
Goodbye
Papa
please pray for me
I was the black sheep of the family;
You tried to teach me right from wrong
Too much wine and too much song
wonder how I got along.
Goodbye
papa
it's hard to die
When all the birds are singing in the sky;
( From: http://www.elyrics.net )
Now that the spring is in the air
Little children ev'rywhere
When you'll see them
I'll be there.
We had joy
we had fun
We had seasons in the sun;
But the wine and the song
Like the seasons have all gone.{Repeat last 5 lines}
Goodbye
Michelle
my little one
You gave me love and helped me find the sun;
And ev'ry time that I was down
You would always come around
And get my feet back on the ground.
Goodbye
Michelle
it's hard to die
When all the birds are singing in the sky;
Now that the spring is in the air
With the flowers ev'rywhere;
I wish that we could both be there.
We had joy
we had fun
We had seasons in the sun;
But the stars we could reach
Were just star-fish on the beach.
Lyrics from eLyrics.net

@ Freckles....I can hear you singing along...don't think I can't.

Nirvana cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO4BF67pvsc

Bmore wrote:been running errands since 330 EST, popped in for a few before my doc appt then back on.... lol

Silly girl. I scheduled my doc appt for yesterday - my labs for this Saturday morning.

and my f/u visit for May 13th. I can't push that one out any further - so we had BETTER have this wrapped up by then! Course my appt is at 12:10pm - aren't we usually out for lunch with this case?

Dr. Jill will have to come on today... this guy is making a mess... what are we to believe? I don't think any of this has anything to do with the murder but jurors pick up on some of the oddest things so you need to cover all bases...

Has the name "Travis" even been uttered today????

it was last minute, needed a refill on my migraine meds... she gave me a daily preventative too! yay me!

Weezie yes... when JM showed Dr. G the inside of TA's skull and brain and asked if he's seen those pics before... and said what if I told you that was Mr. Alexander....

Weeziethm wrote:Has the name "Travis" even been uttered today????

Well, if you count Jodi scribbling his name over and over and over on her doodle pad with her widdle pencils, then yes.

Bmore wrote:Dr. Jill will have to come on today... this guy is making a mess... what are we to believe? I don't think any of this has anything to do with the murder but jurors pick up on some of the oddest things so you need to cover all bases...

Nooooooooo. Less is more here. Less is more.

I just think that if JM doesn't come back and clear it up the jury might think he gave in to them and they must be correct...

I say just slap up those autopsy pics and call it a day.

I'm just sick of this. This smoke and mirrors day of testimony is ridiculous. wonder what the jury questions will be.

Bmore wrote:I just think that if JM doesn't come back and clear it up the jury might think he gave in to them and they must be correct...

If you don't have the facts, just baffle them with bull sh*t..... geezie peets

Weeziethm wrote:I say just slap up those autopsy pics and call it a day.

I'm just sick of this. This smoke and mirrors day of testimony is ridiculous. wonder what the jury questions will be.

Yep! Why ask him to testify to knowledge he does NOT have!!!
Objection all over!

JA looks bored and tired. But what the heck! The three gas can wonder can knock off a few thousand miles with almost NO sleep!

Wilmot: A .25 caliber bullet going thru the right frontal lobe..."

She just put the bullet IN the brain.

If the bullet didn't break the membrane, how did it go thru the brain? Stupid!

TWEET
michaelbkiefer Geffner thinks the bullet would have to go through a section of the brain farther back to impair motor skills.


Jury questions
1. How does incarceration, etc., effect the test scores?
Scores will be elevated on the MCI but not on other tests.

2. Is it possible a person would score differently AFTER killing someone than before?
Yes. Yes on personality, too.

3. High and low scales on MMPI tests: ...

maybe she doesn't have good self image now because she's the homely ugly sister from under the stairs now...

Heard a really good explanation today about why there are so many sidebars. They have to do with something called speaking objections, where you don't want the jury to hear what is being objected to, so as not to prejudice them against their client. Makes sense, but I still think there were too many in this case. Again it goes back to the judge not keeping control of the Dteam.

if it wasn't a bear or a tiger what was it to cause the trauma? we can tell you Dr. G... look at the pics of her critter... pure trauma!!!

Bmore wrote:maybe she doesn't have good self image now because she's the homely ugly sister from under the stairs now...

She ate the wrong side of the apple... and lived to tell about it!
Over and over and over she told it... Funny how none of the stories match up!

Why is JA playing with herself?Did her boobs shift? Again?

omg he just blew it for the defense


described the brain would still bleed slightly immedietly after death unless there had been massive blood loss prior to the injury.

he just gave the bill total for his testimony.... thanks for doing the math!

Just nailed Gaffy on "his" non profit receiving payments.
70-80 hours X 250$ an hour... Money goes back to his institute.

carlakay wrote:omg he just blew it for the defense


described the brain would still bleed slightly immedietly after death unless there had been massive blood loss prior to the injury.

BINGO. HUGE.

what if someone has a make believe story in their head and they make themselves believe it's true and are consistent with the base of the story... would they score the same on the tests?

TWEET Jury questions

michaelbkiefer Can someone manipulate the specific tests? Geffner says it would take training to be able to manipulate all of them.

---He does NOT know JA, does he???


michaelbkiefer Geffner says his institute would probably bill about $13,000 for 70-80 hours of work since November, which goes to the institute, not him. 30 seconds ago

michaelbkiefer Would the bullet not drop a person immediately? Not necessarily, Geffne says. 2 minutes ago ·

michaelbkiefer The jury asked if the lack of hemorrhage could be because the gunshot took place after death. Unlikely.

He is sinking JA now. Rambling and tossing stuff out there.

Freckles wrote:He is sinking JA now. Rambling and tossing stuff out there.

...yup. And what is Juan doing....CRICKETS lol

He's just gonna let him chat away....

===Is it come for a defendant to score high on these tests?
Yes.

---Anxiety, stress, show up due to incarceration and death penalty?

---Dd you know these were JA's or were these anonymous? Knew it was JA's... did not know details of the trial. Said he was given tests "he knew nothing about..."

Whoa! He said he was told by the dteam Dr. DeMarte did NOT know who to use the test scales!!!!

WOW! Tampering with a witness by feeding him false info???

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michaelbkiefer Geffner says Arias meets the criteria for PTSD. 56 seconds ago

michaelbkiefer Does it matter that a person lied about what the trauma was? Geffner says yes in that you want to know, but it wouldn't invalidate the test. about 1 minute ago