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Post by 18thcenturylady Wed May 15, 2013 10:32 am

Mari 68 wrote:Holy poop 18th!! You did that yourself?


Yeah! One garden front, about 20 feet long, and each side about 15 feet long---fence 32 inches tall, and we built all our twig arbors too! Cost: 0!!!!! We also built the 65 foot long stone wall in front of our house by hand, and salvaging every granite boulder/rock---Lots of hard work, but didn't spend any money at all!
Hubby designed and built 2 wattle gates too! (Did SOME of it in 18thc. clothing!!!)
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Mari 68 wrote:Holy poop 18th!! You did that yourself?


Sure did!

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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 10:39 am

The Dt can put on a defense today and say that after the initial strike which according to them was the shot to the head that TA went into shock and therefore didn't feel the pain of the knife wounds and was probably so weak from the bloodloss that by time his throat was cut he probably didn't even know what was going on... so it wasn't cruel enough to meet the criteria to give her the DP... watch...
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 11:14 am

was reading on fb and like freckles said about the nudes from d-day... A person said they think that while he was asleep she transferred them from her data chip from an old session to his data chip to make it look like a current session therefore no actual time stamp... you can do that thru the computer...
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Post by jerseyjul1 Wed May 15, 2013 11:17 am

18thcenturylady wrote:IF Jodi takes the stand today as news outlets are saying she will, I am out of there. I cannot listen to one more word out of her mouth.
I will only listen to Dr. Horn, Juan, and the Alexander family at this point.


Even Satan himself is now scared of this psycho!
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Post by tesstruhart Wed May 15, 2013 11:26 am

If no one said a word at this part of the trial, what would common sense tell you? 29 Stab wounds which bled, so he was still alive, throat cut, he was still alive, gunshot to the head (questionable that he was alive). How is it anything but cruel? No murder is not cruel, but a sudden death with a fatal gunshot is one thing, this repeated stabbing and slicing and dicing and shooting...there is no argument. CRUEL. No discussion. the defense would be wise to let this phase go and try to plead for her life. don't try and tell the jury this is something other than extremely cruel.
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Post by Mari 68 Wed May 15, 2013 11:27 am

I wonder if Jodi is lost for good. It appears that way right now. But only God knows her heart. I know she only portrays evil and conniving to all of us. But i wonder if she will lay it all down and hit her knees some day before she dies.


Dont hate on me. I sometimes try to imagine being her mother and the sheer torment of thinking she is going to hell. Which is a forever thing.
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 11:28 am

the fact that he knew that was happening to him, he never thought the person doing it would ever do anything like that to him, he was trying to get away... he was in fear and knew with every painful stab he was never getting out of his room alive no matter what he did because she over powered him and nobody was home...
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Post by tesstruhart Wed May 15, 2013 11:29 am

Mari 68 wrote:I wonder if Jodi is lost for good. It appears that way right now. But only God knows her heart. I know she only portrays evil and conniving to all of us. But i wonder if she will lay it all down and hut her knees some day before she dies.


Dont hate on me. I sometimes try to imagine being her mother and the sheer torment of thinking she is going to hell. Which is a forever thing.
No hating Mari...I have wondered if she has to get down as far as she can go before she is able (which I'm not sure she is) to ask for forgiveness. I just think that her brain is missing a vital part that will enable that, but what do I know.
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 11:30 am

I didn't know what to think about her mom until i saw the interview tapes with Det. F. then i felt bad for her then now not really so much... and gma and the wheelchair... wow...
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Post by 18thcenturylady Wed May 15, 2013 11:35 am

tesstruhart wrote:
Mari 68 wrote:I wonder if Jodi is lost for good. It appears that way right now. But only God knows her heart. I know she only portrays evil and conniving to all of us. But i wonder if she will lay it all down and hut her knees some day before she dies.


Dont hate on me. I sometimes try to imagine being her mother and the sheer torment of thinking she is going to hell. Which is a forever thing.
No hating Mari...I have wondered if she has to get down as far as she can go before she is able (which I'm not sure she is) to ask for forgiveness. I just think that her brain is missing a vital part that will enable that, but what do I know.


You're not alone. I have wondered if she would ever get older and someday do the same, but I seriously doubt that she is or ever would be capable of it. I think there is something missing inside her and it's permanent---she is lost. That being said, the thought of her being in a hell someday forever doesn't bother me one bit...

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Post by 18thcenturylady Wed May 15, 2013 11:44 am

Bmore wrote:was reading on fb and like freckles said about the nudes from d-day... A person said they think that while he was asleep she transferred them from her data chip from an old session to his data chip to make it look like a current session therefore no actual time stamp... you can do that thru the computer...

Seriously, I think this is one of the many really silly conspiracy theories out there. There is NO reason she would have done this and it makes no sense because she deleted those and the murder photos and when she did, she never in a million years thought they were retrievable, so what would be the point?
No, the sex definitely happened that day, but I do think there is a LOT more to the story about WHY Travis let her in and trusted her again after his May 26 email.

I wish one of the Alexanders would stand up and mention that day and tell how Travis was a person who wanted to see good in everyone. I want them to say that he at one time liked Jodi and tried to help her in many ways. I am hoping they say something along the lines of their brother was kind and forgiving, and Jodi HAD to have concocted something very persuasive to Travis to get him to let her in or speak to her that day. I think they should say it was not a promise of sex---that wasn't what Travis wanted at that point. He "was hurt" worse than "anyone had ever hurt" him. They know their brother; they must know that she said something very calculated to trick Travis into thinking she wanted to come clean, make amends, be forgiven, etc. for whatever the terrible "evil" and "scam" she had done to Travis.
Then they could say how she betrayed all of his kindness and care in the most heinous way---That her premeditation was not just about the killing itself, but extended to trapping and tricking him into letting her in and talking to her that day.
I really do hope they talk about the real Travis for this jury.

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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 11:50 am

I'm a parent and I believe you'll always love your child, you'll think back on those memories of that sweet baby or toddler that you shared giggles and eskimo kisses with. you'll love that child. But when a life is taken is this way there will be a line drawn and I don't know that I would be able to cross it. The creature that did this isn't your child,it's something else and with the way its' treated you it would just as soon do it to you too... Then the stunt in that interview to grasp at her mom for support... I think I'd have to walk away. I'm torn... But her being in AZ and me and my family being in CA I think with the support I could put JA behind me for what she has done to TA's family, my family and me all those years...
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 11:58 am

funny from fb...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=554058557979022&set=o.194285473950861&type=1&theater¬if_t=like
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Post by Moosiesmama Wed May 15, 2013 12:06 pm

I hope everyone has their tray tables stowed and their seatbelts firmly tightened as I don't think this is going to be a very enjoyable day considering the testimony about to be offered by Dr Horn.
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:09 pm

I'm still waiting for my boss to ask for his travel folder... no dice yet... lol aren't you suppose to go to the airport 3 hours before your flight? lol
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Post by tesstruhart Wed May 15, 2013 12:09 pm

Moosiesmama wrote:I hope everyone has their tray tables stowed and their seatbelts firmly tightened as I don't think this is going to be a very enjoyable day considering the testimony about to be offered by Dr Horn.
I think you're right. I am flipping between OJ and when JA comes on that one. OJ is another one that deserves to be in prison.
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Post by tesstruhart Wed May 15, 2013 12:11 pm

Bmore wrote:I'm still waiting for my boss to ask for his travel folder... no dice yet... lol aren't you suppose to go to the airport 3 hours before your flight? lol
Just remind him of the sequestration problems and all the 'new' rules to get through scanners, strip searches, x-rays and complete history of your family tree.
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:13 pm

Tess i wish, he travels like 3 times a month... He'd know I was trying to get rid of him... lol
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:14 pm

i just saw one of the stab in the back pics... i thought they were clustered on the right, this pic they look like there were more in the middle, at least 3 going into his spine... there were talking about the very last hallway accidential shot, i could never figure it out and someone was explaining it so i was looking for that... still don't get it... lol
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Post by Mari 68 Wed May 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Im heading into the office now. See you all for the 10am viewing of The Jodi Arias Reality Show


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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:15 pm

Mari aren't we allowed to call in and vote? wth kind of BS show is this?
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Post by tesstruhart Wed May 15, 2013 12:16 pm

Mari 68 wrote:Im heading into the office now. See you all for the 10am viewing of The Jodi Arias Reality Show


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Post by Pianist Wed May 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Bmore wrote:I'm still waiting for my boss to ask for his travel folder... no dice yet... lol aren't you suppose to go to the airport 3 hours before your flight? lol

Nope! Not 3 hours. I thought it was whenever the assistant wants him/her out of the office. In fact I seem to remember that the office LAW was he/she is not to come into the office the day of the trip. Your boss has to learn the rules. Laughing
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:22 pm

he was out of the office yesterday playing golf so I have to cut him some slack... lol
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Post by Weeziethm Wed May 15, 2013 12:23 pm

I'm going to miss the first hour....say whaat??? Crying or Very sad

Take good notes like ya always do!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:24 pm

changed my mood back to praying from cloud 9... we need to get a guilty on this part too....
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Post by Pianist Wed May 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Bmore wrote:he was out of the office yesterday playing golf so I have to cut him some slack... lol

Don't give him an inch. Yesterday was his mental health day. Today is you mental health day. You will go crazy if you can't watch this Villan. Very Happy
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:29 pm

the reason i brought up the wounds being in the center area of the back and 3 being in the spine area is from the post Nurse Nancy left on the blog about the spinal cord damage and the paralysis... All 3 of these were on a diagonal so I guess they could have gone there... I'm really interested in the detail of Dr. H's testimony
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Hey he let's me use his ocean condo at a discount, don't sh!t where you eat... lol... i hear him in there stirring around....
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:33 pm

I don't know if the trial will come on this feed but i have a couple running... but on channel 15 Sonoran Living Live is on and this Chef I guess (no volume), it's a cooking segment looks like he's 12... why do i feel so old at 39?
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:34 pm

WHAT IN THE HELL???? They are going to make the State wish they took their deal...

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Post by carlakay Wed May 15, 2013 12:38 pm

Bmore wrote:Carla where are you? How is your fence coming? Mine is getting there and looking sexy!

I'm here finally...been another unfrigginbelievable past 22 hrs so just now getting chance to catch up..well actually I stopped here so still not caught up. My EIGHT FOOT TALL privacy fence is up and the view from my patio is FABULOUS now...loving it.
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:38 pm

he's changing his vm.... soon???? maybe???? lol
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Post by jerseyjul1 Wed May 15, 2013 12:39 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
Mari 68 wrote:Holy poop 18th!! You did that yourself?


Yeah! One garden front, about 20 feet long, and each side about 15 feet long---fence 32 inches tall, and we built all our twig arbors too! Cost: 0!!!!! We also built the 65 foot long stone wall in front of our house by hand, and salvaging every granite boulder/rock---Lots of hard work, but didn't spend any money at all!
Hubby designed and built 2 wattle gates too! (Did SOME of it in 18thc. clothing!!!)
http://anhistoricallady.blogspot.com/2012/07/wattle-fences-stepping-stones-and-blue.html

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Awesome pics!! That is a lot of work, but I love the fence you made! Beautiful!!
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:39 pm

I have fence envy... i want an 8 footer... Sad mines only 6
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Post by carlakay Wed May 15, 2013 12:41 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
Bmore wrote:Carla where are you? How is your fence coming? Mine is getting there and looking sexy!


Yeah, Carla! Show us your fence, lol!
Hubby and I cut down over 400 saplings last year, dragged bunches of 20 ft. long trees through the woods, stripped off all leaves and branches by hand and wove our own wattle fences around a couple of our gardens! (We are DIY and cheap, lol!)
Here's one photo~

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WOWZERS!!! That is totally awesome and gotta say even if I knew how to transfer pics from my new cell to my laptop here I wouldn't share cuz my fence aint looking so fab to me now...lol
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:42 pm

When mines all said and done we're going to take 2x4s and cut them up into different size frames (like pictures) and stain them with colorful outdoor wood stains and hang them with a couple small nails on the fence (won't leave marks) and you can put small pots with flowers on them to brighten up your new wall... saw it on HGTV... thought it was pretty cool since my backyard is done in bright colors.... lol
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Post by 18thcenturylady Wed May 15, 2013 12:45 pm

You guys, ch5 and wildabouttrial have no live feed at present. What are you watching? Any other links?

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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:46 pm

chan 15 has the seal...

http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/live-video
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Post by carlakay Wed May 15, 2013 12:49 pm

Bmore wrote:I have fence envy... i want an 8 footer... Sad mines only 6


Its awesome..can not even see the bad neighbors roof anymore!
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Post by 18thcenturylady Wed May 15, 2013 12:49 pm

Bmore wrote:When mines all said and done we're going to take 2x4s and cut them up into different size frames (like pictures) and stain them with colorful outdoor wood stains and hang them with a couple small nails on the fence (won't leave marks) and you can put small pots with flowers on them to brighten up your new wall... saw it on HGTV... thought it was pretty cool since my backyard is done in bright colors.... lol

LOVE watching HGTV...Sounds so adorable! I am sure it'll look great!

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Post by Bo Wed May 15, 2013 12:50 pm

I hope the jury recommends death penalty...but unfortunately it will only be Symbolic....when is the last time they've executed anyone in Arizona? 80 years ago??
She probably wants death penalty because she can have her own little cell to herself where no one can get to her...if it's life she'll have roomies who are like her...murderers...but she might like that too...hhmmm..decisions decisions LOL

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Post by 18thcenturylady Wed May 15, 2013 12:50 pm

PLEASE...I hope we don't start late today, or with a sidebar!

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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:51 pm

I like the 6 over what i had... I'll be happy with that... It's over my head and can only see the top part of their hill...
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Post by carlakay Wed May 15, 2013 12:51 pm

hope I can hold down my lunch once this starts..thinking it's gonna be bad
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Post by Freckles Wed May 15, 2013 12:52 pm

Bmore wrote:was reading on fb and like freckles said about the nudes from d-day... A person said they think that while he was asleep she transferred them from her data chip from an old session to his data chip to make it look like a current session therefore no actual time stamp... you can do that thru the computer...

The one thing I would like to have heard was the TIME STAMP for when the pictures were deleted by JA. That would have shown the time frame of when she was still in the house and would have shown Travis was dead by then so could not have reviewed the pictures with JA.

The lies just come too easily for her. Why bother with the truth when there are SO many unused lies just hanging about??? Shocked
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:53 pm

See Bo that's the great part.... it's not killing her that i want it's the process of getting there.... I want her all by herself with nothing... for years and years knowing that one day it's all going to end... but the years of being by herself, yeah that's what i'm talking about, someone like her can't deal with isolation...
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Post by Bmore Wed May 15, 2013 12:55 pm

put mustard away from lunch.... soon??? c'mon.... we have 5 minutes
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