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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:40 pm
Justice for Sarah Widmer Facebook page
"Let us not forget Ryan's family. We must act like civil human beings, not gloat, nor behave in any way disrespectful towards the Widmer family....Justice has been served and may Sarah finally rest in peace."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Sarah-Widmer/187578814597792#!/pages/Justice-for-Sarah-Widmer/187578814597792
"Let us not forget Ryan's family. We must act like civil human beings, not gloat, nor behave in any way disrespectful towards the Widmer family....Justice has been served and may Sarah finally rest in peace."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Sarah-Widmer/187578814597792#!/pages/Justice-for-Sarah-Widmer/187578814597792
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:27 pm
http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/crime/widmer_2009/jury-finds-ryan-widmer-guilty-of-murder
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Estee Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:36 pm
OMG...I can't believe it...I have kept up with this and the one day I go out with my Dau they come back with a verdict...I didn't think it would be this soon...and all 12 said GUILTY...I am devastated....I hope mz Crews is happy and Sarah's mom too...You better bet this will be appealed and if that Hutszel person denies it I hope they go after her...
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:03 pm
I'm anxious to hear the interviews from some of the jurors, I understand several stations have interviewed some of them, but they won't be broadcast until the 11pm news. It's also my understanding Sarah's mom seemed relieved leaving the courtroom. What a nightmare for both of these families. I watched an interview from another high profile defense attorney on the local news and he said Ryan forming "relationships" with these women after the fact most likely hurt him in the eyes of the jury. He said he felt the jury felt sympathy for Jennifer Crew, and he got too cozy and friendly with the more attractive Melissa Waller. And apparently, Sarah Manherz, Ryan's supposed girlfriend he met on FreeRyanWidmer.com was in the courtroom for the first time today. She moved from New York to West Chester, OH to be with Ryan. She did leave the courthouse with Ryan's dad today.
Sarah Manherz
http://www.hamptonscene.com/webready_pink52607/ppages/ppage67.htm
Sarah Manherz
http://www.hamptonscene.com/webready_pink52607/ppages/ppage67.htm
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:08 pm
One of the news stations is reporting that juror #3 called into WLW, local radio station, he was an older gentleman. He said the 911 call, Ryan's demeanor in the courtroom & they felt Ryan was a cocky punk. They did not believe Waller or Crew...........
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:16 pm
Sounds to me, if this is true, they had their mind made up when they went into deliberations. They asked for the 911 call first. Just my opinion..........we'll hear more.
Estee, I wasn't expecting it this quick either. I think it surprised everyone!
Estee, I wasn't expecting it this quick either. I think it surprised everyone!
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:05 pm
Ryan Widmer Mugshot
"Judge I did not do this. I don't know why this has to keep going on. I love Sarah. I would never hurt her. Never," Widmer said after the judge asked if he had anything to say to the court.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Sherry Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:10 pm
I know it surprised me that the verdict came in so early. I'm just glad that it wasn't Crew's testimony that did any swaying as much as we know so far. I thought she was quite the drama queen on the stand. Enduring listening to her on the stand was akin to listening to Cindy Anthony on the stand->ack
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:12 pm
Did justice prevail?
Posted: 02/15/2011
Last Updated: 29 minutes ago
http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/crime/widmer_2009/did-justice-prevail%3F
Posted: 02/15/2011
Last Updated: 29 minutes ago
http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/crime/widmer_2009/did-justice-prevail%3F
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Ann - Tx Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:19 am
Hi, Piper!
Thank you for posting all of the pics and videos. Please keep us posted on what the locals have to say!
Sarah was a pretty young lady.
It is so odd that Ryan got "involved" with these women after the fact. It just seems odd that if he was grieving for Sarah that he would give these gals the time of day.
Piper, is Ryan's mother and father still married? Does he have a step-mother?
If I had followed this case from day one, I would know the answer to my question.
Thank you for posting all of the pics and videos. Please keep us posted on what the locals have to say!
Sarah was a pretty young lady.
It is so odd that Ryan got "involved" with these women after the fact. It just seems odd that if he was grieving for Sarah that he would give these gals the time of day.
Piper, is Ryan's mother and father still married? Does he have a step-mother?
If I had followed this case from day one, I would know the answer to my question.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Ann - Tx Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:33 am
Jurors Speak About Finding Widmer Guilty Of Murder
WLWT - Cincinnati, OH
POSTED: 10:59 pm EST February 15, 2011
UPDATED: 12:45 am EST February 16, 2011
LEBANON, Ohio -- News 5 spoke with three jurors just hours after they found Ryan Widmer guilty of killing his wife.
All of them said the testimony of the so-called mystery witness, Jennifer Crew played no role in their decision. Crew testified that Widmer called her while intoxicated and confessed to killing Sarah because she was going to leave him. Crew contacted Widmer after seeing his story air on NBC's "Dateline".
Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/r/26881191/detail.html
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Piper, there is a Video within this article if you want to post it. Then . . . I will delete this line.
WLWT - Cincinnati, OH
POSTED: 10:59 pm EST February 15, 2011
UPDATED: 12:45 am EST February 16, 2011
LEBANON, Ohio -- News 5 spoke with three jurors just hours after they found Ryan Widmer guilty of killing his wife.
All of them said the testimony of the so-called mystery witness, Jennifer Crew played no role in their decision. Crew testified that Widmer called her while intoxicated and confessed to killing Sarah because she was going to leave him. Crew contacted Widmer after seeing his story air on NBC's "Dateline".
Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/r/26881191/detail.html
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Piper, there is a Video within this article if you want to post it. Then . . . I will delete this line.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Ann - Tx Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:50 am
Ryan Widmer: Guilty again, courtroom erupts
kypost.com - Kentucky
Posted: 11:12 PM - February 15, 2011
LEBANON, Ohio - An explosion of emotion erupted in and outside the courtroom Tuesday when Ryan Widmer’s fate was determined by a jury of 12, after 12 hours of deliberation, who filed into the courtroom never looking in Ryan’s direction.
The judge read the words: “Ryan K. Widmer is guilty of murder.”
An emotional outburst rang throughout the crowded courtroom as a guilty verdict was read to Widmer, who stood sobbing, leaning over the table, head down, face in his hands, resting on the table.
Even before the verdict was read, began to cry. The jury form is handed to the bailiff. He delivered it to Judge Neal Bronson, who looked down at the piece of paper and reminded the galleries that the court would tolerate no outbursts.
Read more:
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/ryan-widmer%3A-guilty-again,-courtroom-erupts_6087631
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Several videos included!
kypost.com - Kentucky
Posted: 11:12 PM - February 15, 2011
LEBANON, Ohio - An explosion of emotion erupted in and outside the courtroom Tuesday when Ryan Widmer’s fate was determined by a jury of 12, after 12 hours of deliberation, who filed into the courtroom never looking in Ryan’s direction.
The judge read the words: “Ryan K. Widmer is guilty of murder.”
An emotional outburst rang throughout the crowded courtroom as a guilty verdict was read to Widmer, who stood sobbing, leaning over the table, head down, face in his hands, resting on the table.
Even before the verdict was read, began to cry. The jury form is handed to the bailiff. He delivered it to Judge Neal Bronson, who looked down at the piece of paper and reminded the galleries that the court would tolerate no outbursts.
Read more:
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/ryan-widmer%3A-guilty-again,-courtroom-erupts_6087631
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Several videos included!
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Ann - Tx Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:06 am
This site has a dedicated page regarding the Widmer case. Numerous articles, slide shows, videos, etc. It is excellent for someone (such as me) who has not followed the case from day one.
http://www.wcpo.com/subindex/news/crime/widmer_2009
WCPO Cincinnati, OH 2-16-11
Ryan Widmer Murder Trial
http://www.wcpo.com/subindex/news/crime/widmer_2009
WCPO Cincinnati, OH 2-16-11
Ryan Widmer Murder Trial
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:30 am
Ann - Tx wrote:Hi, Piper!
Thank you for posting all of the pics and videos. Please keep us posted on what the locals have to say!
Sarah was a pretty young lady.
It is so odd that Ryan got "involved" with these women after the fact. It just seems odd that if he was grieving for Sarah that he would give these gals the time of day.
Piper, is Ryan's mother and father still married? Does he have a step-mother?
If I had followed this case from day one, I would know the answer to my question.
Hi Ann! Thanks for all of the links. Ryan's parents are divorced, he does have a stepmother. Ryan's father did not attend the wedding. Sarah's mom, Ruth Ann, did not meet Ryan's mother until the wedding rehearsal/dinner. That is my understanding.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:34 am
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"The jurors asked not to be identified at this point. One juror told News 5, "We did not take Jennifer Crew's testimony into account. We discredited her."
Another juror echoed that statement and said, "She was discredited, although we gave her a fair shot."
The jurors said what brought them to a guilty verdict in 12 hours of deliberations was the testimony about the bathroom and the 911 call.
"The 911 call did not sit well with us," one juror said. "That played a very big part. We listened to it five or six times."
One juror said it "sounded like he was faking it."
All three jurors said they really didn't want to find Widmer guilty.
"We tried everything we could to not find him guilty," one juror said.
All three said it was a difficult, but in the end, they said they did what prosecutors told them to do. They said they used their common sense and life experiences combined with the evidence. They said they all agreed Widmer intentionally killed his wife.
The jurors said the evidence did not support the defense's theory that Sarah had a seizure or medical condition."
http://www.wlwt.com/ryan-widmer-retrial/26881191/detail.html
This reporter said on the news last night that the 3 jurors told her it was the 911 call, they thought it sounded fake, and that the bathtub was dry.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:40 am
Widmer family friend speaks after the trial
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:43 am
The WLWT site doesn't have a video embedding feature, dang them! We'll have to complain to Travis Gettys today, he's coming back on line at noon today.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:48 am
I'm sure his attorneys will appeal immediately. But in my opinion, this is the end of it. The Lt. Braley findings that weren't allowed in court and the lack of funding for more research into what happened to Sarah, I don't think that's going to make a difference on appeal, just my opinion.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:50 am
Ryan's father and stepmother after verdict
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:52 am
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:57 am
This link of Ann's has a lot of information!
http://www.wcpo.com/subindex/news/crime/widmer_2009
There has been talk of jury members emailing/talking to friends during the trial. I don't know what will come of this. I think Judge Bronson was made aware of it, but apparently he felt it wasn't a concern, if there was one to begin with.
http://www.wcpo.com/subindex/news/crime/widmer_2009
There has been talk of jury members emailing/talking to friends during the trial. I don't know what will come of this. I think Judge Bronson was made aware of it, but apparently he felt it wasn't a concern, if there was one to begin with.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Sherry Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:07 am
Piper wrote:I'm sure his attorneys will appeal immediately. But in my opinion, this is the end of it. The Lt. Braley findings that weren't allowed in court and the lack of funding for more research into what happened to Sarah, I don't think that's going to make a difference on appeal, just my opinion.
Its as if the odds were stacked against Ryan from getting a fair trial! Sure, the State has the burden of proof but should they be able to make that burden so heavy that the defendant can't lift it off of himself? I couldn't believe that the defense could not tear apart what one of Ryan's accusers, Braley, dug up against him. This was the most lop-sided trial I have ever seen or heard.
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:14 am
Sherry, I truly disagreed with Judge Bronson's ruling on Braley in this third trial. Braley sat at the prosecution table in trial 1 and 2. And he's still employed..........
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:41 am
Juror: Widmer should have testified
Updated 11:18 AM Wednesday, February 16, 2011
LEBANON — The jury in the Ryan Widmer trial based its decision to convict the Warren County man based on the dry bathroom scene found and his fateful 911 call, a juror said.
The juror, who asked not to be identified, said she also based her decision on the fact that Widmer didn’t testify. The jury was cautioned numerous times by the judge that Widmer had a Constitutional right not to testify.
It was a tough choice for the jury, according to the woman.
“It was the hardest decision any of us ever had to make...,” she said. “We tried every way to find excuses for Ryan and there was none.”
The juror said they went witness by witness, all 44 who testified, and dissected everything before they took one vote — guilty of murder.
“I couldn’t say there was any particular credible witness,” she said. “The fact that we couldn’t hear Ryan’s side of the story was bad.”
Read more:
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/juror-widmer-should-have-testified-1083032.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
Updated 11:18 AM Wednesday, February 16, 2011
LEBANON — The jury in the Ryan Widmer trial based its decision to convict the Warren County man based on the dry bathroom scene found and his fateful 911 call, a juror said.
The juror, who asked not to be identified, said she also based her decision on the fact that Widmer didn’t testify. The jury was cautioned numerous times by the judge that Widmer had a Constitutional right not to testify.
It was a tough choice for the jury, according to the woman.
“It was the hardest decision any of us ever had to make...,” she said. “We tried every way to find excuses for Ryan and there was none.”
The juror said they went witness by witness, all 44 who testified, and dissected everything before they took one vote — guilty of murder.
“I couldn’t say there was any particular credible witness,” she said. “The fact that we couldn’t hear Ryan’s side of the story was bad.”
Read more:
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/juror-widmer-should-have-testified-1083032.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Ann - Tx Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:48 am
Piper, thanks for posting all of the videos!
Is the 911 call posted on this thread?
Is the 911 call posted on this thread?
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Re: Ryan Widmer - Bathtub Murder Trial of Bride of 4 Months, Sarah Widmer
by Piper Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:56 am
Piper wrote:Here's the 911 call...
http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/crime/audio-ryan-widmers-911-call-667748.html
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