Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #21

freckles... that tweet ^^^^ she's catching flies as me ggma would say... lol

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VinniePolitan I don't think #JodiArias is feeling optimistic right now... pic.twitter.com/WZnfqtD7ON 7 seconds ago ·

michaelbkiefer Nurmi brings up the other side of cruelty: whether Arias would be conscious that she was inflicting pain and suffering.

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Nurmi is going to JA having an extreme violent outburst due to her mental condition... Begging, IMO.

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michaelbkiefer Nurmi: Is there proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Arias knew what she was doing? 20 seconds

michaelbkiefer Nurmi brings up prosecution expert Dr. DeMarte's testimony that Arias is borderline and that borderlines have violent outbursts.

I don't quite understand how Jodi's friends and family all look like knuckle dragging Neanderthals that shop @ thrift store dumpsters, and JA's the odd one out.

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michaelbkiefer Martinez: "He told you that the state is trying to fool you." 4 seconds

michaelbkiefer Martinez rebuttal: Nurmi is attacking him personally. Objection. "Approach."


michaelbkiefer Martinez: "He told you that the state is trying to fool you." 4 seconds ago

michaelbkiefer Martinez rebuttal: Nurmi is attacking him personally. Objection. "Approach."

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michaelbkiefer Martinez refutes Nurmi's question of whether Arias knew what was going on by detailing the cleanup she attempted at the scene.

You know, a lot of intelligent attorneys there in Arizona said its LIKELY the defense doesn't do anything in this part of the trial. They just let the State put on what they want and let the jurors decide if its cruel.

They said it doesn't help the defense to argue against it being cruel when a jury already convicted her of 1st degree.

Its almost antagonistic.


So of course Jodi is putting on a defense against it being cruel.

I'm laughing my ass off.

I was surprised to see her arguing against this. But I should not have been.

gsweater wrote:I don't quite understand how Jodi's friends and family all look like knuckle dragging Neanderthals that shop @ thrift store dumpsters, and JA's the odd one out.

Yeah. Her mother doesn't look like that, though. But yeah, the peeps from jail and their little buddies.

NONE of Jodi's friends are there for her. She didnt' have any friends.

Matt McCartney didn't show up to testify for her.

Darryl only reluctantly testified and begged to keep his face off camera.


LOL What a nightmare.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT DAMN REMOTE CONTROL WAS FOR THAT SHE GAVE TO DARRYL AND WAS LEFT IN HER CAR!!!!

Mari 68 wrote:You know, a lot of intelligent attorneys there in Arizona said its LIKELY the defense doesn't do anything in this part of the trial. They just let the State put on what they want and let the jurors decide if its cruel.

They said it doesn't help the defense to argue against it being cruel when a jury already convicted her of 1st degree.

Its almost antagonistic.


So of course Jodi is putting on a defense against it being cruel.

I'm laughing my ass off.

I was surprised to see her arguing against this. But I should not have been.

Yes, Mari,
I think the defense is coming across as antagonistic, and it just emphasizes that their client has no feeling and certainly no remorse.

What about impact statements????

Mari 68 wrote:

gsweater wrote:I don't quite understand how Jodi's friends and family all look like knuckle dragging Neanderthals that shop @ thrift store dumpsters, and JA's the odd one out.

Yeah. Her mother doesn't look like that, though. But yeah, the peeps from jail and their little buddies.

NONE of Jodi's friends are there for her. She didnt' have any friends.

Matt McCartney didn't show up to testify for her.

Darryl only reluctantly testified and begged to keep his face off camera.


LOL What a nightmare.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT DAMN REMOTE CONTROL WAS FOR THAT SHE GAVE TO DARRYL AND WAS LEFT IN HER CAR!!!!

Maybe it was used to open and close the meat curtains??

When do they transpire?

Bo wrote:What about impact statements????

That's during the penalty phase. Not there yet.

Mari 68 wrote:You know, a lot of intelligent attorneys there in Arizona said its LIKELY the defense doesn't do anything in this part of the trial. They just let the State put on what they want and let the jurors decide if its cruel.

They said it doesn't help the defense to argue against it being cruel when a jury already convicted her of 1st degree.

Its almost antagonistic.


So of course Jodi is putting on a defense against it being cruel.

I'm laughing my ass off.

I was surprised to see her arguing against this. But I should not have been.

Yes, I think that they should not have spoken like that, especially the stupid 'adrenalin demonstration' of JW. They are battling against common sense.

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BethKaras Jury retires to deliberate whether aggravator of "especially cruel" was proven or not proven.


VinniePolitan #JodiArias judge giving jury final instructions... We are in a #JodiArias #VerdictWatch pic.twitter.com/3oNs5hOr8u 28 seconds ago

michaelbkiefer Martinez is done. Stephens goes to final jury instructions on deliberating aggravating factor.

*** ALL 12 must agree!

gsweater wrote:I don't quite understand how Jodi's friends and family all look like knuckle dragging Neanderthals that shop @ thrift store dumpsters, and JA's the odd one out.

http://vimeo.com/57418480

lol

gsweater....She's the odd one out because the other ones arent carrying a gun and a knife in "their knuckle dragging hands" LOL

Bmore wrote:

gsweater wrote:I don't quite understand how Jodi's friends and family all look like knuckle dragging Neanderthals that shop @ thrift store dumpsters, and JA's the odd one out.

http://vimeo.com/57418480

lol

Totally! Only Macklemore has more class

so how long are we expecting this to take?

I had to do it... as soon as i saw that... lol poppin' tags...

Bmore wrote:so how long are we expecting this to take?

I would think 15 mn...

Agreed that fell flat. The defense really shouldn't have said one darn thing. How insulting to everyone, most of all, the Alexander's. They just made it worse and more of a "lock" for DP, imo. Loved the 2 minutes of silence. That was powerful.

Any guesses on how long? I say not very!

I tend to keep you posted with my potty adventures from helping the elderly to fights with the paper ass gasket holders but today takes the cake... I go in and you know that crack/slot in between the stall wall and door? usually about maybe a 1/2 inch... A lady had it covered with a streamer of toilet paper so nobody could see in when they walked by... What in the hell are you doing in there?

IMO, I think they will be back within the hour....
Then again, I am often wrong!

I think their big thing will be OK if we vote that yes this is cruel can we still opt out of voting for the DP if we want too? I think even tho they're supposed to be a DP qualified jury they might take issue with it...

to clarifiy not all but maybe 1 or 2 of them

This might be Jodi's ticket out.

All 12 have to agree on one thing. We don't know if they even agree on the sequence of wounds.

ONE of those jurors MUST give an at length interview when this schitt is over.

I must know!

Bmore wrote:I tend to keep you posted with my potty adventures from helping the elderly to fights with the paper ass gasket holders but today takes the cake... I go in and you know that crack/slot in between the stall wall and door? usually about maybe a 1/2 inch... A lady had it covered with a streamer of toilet paper so nobody could see in when they walked by... What in the hell are you doing in there?

That sounds like my mom. Some women are just ultra sensitive - they freak if they think you can see them.

I keep telling my mother "yes, I can see through the crack - but not really - just a quick blur - one would have to stand still and PEER in to try to make out anything. At that point you can KICK SWING THAT DOOR OPEN AND CALL THEM A PERV!"

ok I am back just in time for the waiting game I see. Thanks for all the tweets..I am a lil shocked at how quickly this all transpired today so hopefully the jury will decide just as fast.

I still know NOTHING as to what happened to my friends nephews..she did not discuss it and I did not ask..she just needed a big hug and the humorous distraction only one of my "stories" could give.

Has anyone loaded up the video of this morning's testimony yet???


I missed almost all of it. I want a job like Bmore

Freckles wrote:IMO, I think they will be back within the hour....
Then again, I am often wrong!

Were they told to take a lunch? Or what???

Yes Jury at lunch. When Nurms was arguing whether she could be expected to know whether stabbing someone would hurt...well the first I thought of was a 2 yr. old knows a needle hurts. By age 27 one would think with an Einstein brain she would know that. Actually, poor Nurms and his overworked shirt (stretched to the maximum ppi) had nothing. I think the better part of valor would have been to rest with nothing to say. They should just count on begging for her worthless life.

I read lunch break ends at 3:30 pm Arizona time.

Weeziethm wrote:I read lunch break ends at 3:30 pm Arizona time.

... and it is always followed by a side-bar...

Poem from Joy McQuiston on HLN comments:

“This trial has been all about me”, said Ms. Jodi
I am the one who has suffered from pure cruelty.
They put me in a cell; how mean could they be?
This jury even went so far to say that I am guilty.

It was Travis who was cruel; he wouldn’t marry me.
He wanted to move on; leaving me sad and lonely.
Why can’t the jury get it straight for once and for all?
It was Travis who was selfish; he had dropped the ball!

I laugh in my cell when I think of this complete ordeal.
If it wasn’t for Travis I would be happy and free, I feel.
How dare the jury try to prove that I had been cruel.
After all I am a goddess; far brighter than any jewel!"

How true...

ooops...correction.

Lunch ends at 1:30 pm Arizona time.

Sorry folks.

tesstruhart wrote:Yes Jury at lunch. When Nurms was arguing whether she could be expected to know whether stabbing someone would hurt...well the first I thought of was a 2 yr. old knows a needle hurts. By age 27 one would think with an Einstein brain she would know that. Actually, poor Nurms and his overworked shirt (stretched to the maximum ppi) had nothing. I think the better part of valor would have been to rest with nothing to say. They should just count on begging for her worthless life.

I was thinking (IF you bought JA's story ) of how Travis sposedly told JA a 5 yr old could "do it better".... take better pictures... And this is sposedly what set her off?
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable she would have us buy this swill.
Unbelievable with all the lies she has spun.
Unbelievable with 3 gas cans... and thousands of miles to go...
Unbelievable equals undeliverable. JA and dteam failed to deliver anything of substance. They only were on the defense the whole time and that was to trash Travis, blame the victim game...

ok... i'm here and ready for now... have my bowl of female butter pecan ice cream if I can keep my cat away from it... then i'll have to start working on the fence again.... c'mon get done soon...

Weeziethm wrote:ooops...correction.

Lunch ends at 1:30 pm Arizona time.

Sorry folks.

You made me jump and check time zone ! I thought they went to a banquet

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BethKaras It's still the lunch hour in Phoenix but all the jurors are in their room--probably having a working lunch. #jodiarias 40 seconds ago

Hello all!
I justed wanted to thank you all for the great insights of this trial. I work third shift and have to catch up after everything is usualy done for the day. You all keep me informed and up to date, so I am not to far behind on what is going on if I cant catch up on the u-tube vids, or the dvr.

Again, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!

oli. lol.

even if these jurors avoid TV, newspapers, direct conversations, etc... you know that they have had to have heard in passing at the grocery store, in the elevator, etc... that she had a tv interview after the verdict and was just as sh!tty as expected...

Welcome, netty!
Glad to have you posting!!

this is about accountability JVM and having the punishment fit the crime...

The jury is NOT supposed to consider the death penalty or let the thought of that enter into whether or not they decide if Travis' death was cruel or not. The judge specifically said that. I have to believe at least a few of them will not fudge on that or 'cave' on the cruelty aspect---At least I hope so. Better NOT unanimous than a slap in the face to Travis and his family of not a cruel death.
IF they can't agree, I believe another jury is brought in to deliberate the fact.

I was thinking that for someone who wanted to die, she didn't ask much her attys to help her...

Ah, yes, I understand, it hurts !!

But don't be so afraid JA, JW will tell you that's it's quick and adrenalin does some miracle

If you missed it, HLN on JA nad the media shutdown:

" ... The sheriff's office said it will abide by the judge's order.

"We will not attempt to contact Arias for purposes of media interviews until that order is lifted by the court.

Once the court lifts the order, and if inmate Arias agrees to do interviews, all interested media parties will be notified immediately by Sheriff's PIO via email. Interviews will be conducted thereafter in the order already received."...

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/05/15/jodi-arias-no-more-interviews-judge-order

18thcenturylady wrote:The jury is NOT supposed to consider the death penalty or let the thought of that enter into whether or not they decide if Travis' death was cruel or not. The judge specifically said that. I have to believe at least a few of them will not fudge on that or 'cave' on the cruelty aspect---At least I hope so. Better NOT unanimous than a slap in the face to Travis and his family of not a cruel death.
IF they can't agree, I believe another jury is brought in to deliberate the fact.

I am with ya here..hth could anyone who found her guilty not believe this young man suffered horribly in those last minutes? I think they are taking too long already

olivier57 wrote:I was thinking that for someone who wanted to die, she didn't ask much her attys to help her...

Ah, yes, I understand, it hurts !!

But don't be so afraid JA, JW will tell you that's it's quick and adrenalin does some miracle

LOL, and a little needle does'nt hurt as much as a BIC Razor scratch.